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"Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"


  

          

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I can verify.
Oct 17th 2012
1
Yup, getting the same deal
Oct 17th 2012
2
The snippets were kinda deceiving
Oct 17th 2012
3
how so?
Oct 17th 2012
4
      I think it's inherent in snippets
Oct 17th 2012
7
           I NEVER check for snippets, especially in Rap. With R&B, I feel like
Oct 17th 2012
24
                This was the first time in forever i listened to snippets
Oct 17th 2012
53
the full deluxe gouprip out now
Oct 17th 2012
5
People concerned about the Drake verse... don't be.
Oct 17th 2012
6
"m.A.A.d city" is fucking BANANAS
Oct 17th 2012
8
Yeap, a great homage to the west coast
Oct 18th 2012
84
he delivered. this shit is dope.
Oct 17th 2012
9
He definitely did.
Oct 17th 2012
10
one full listen and this is banging
Oct 17th 2012
11
Black Boy Fly... wow.
Oct 17th 2012
12
Jayceon
Oct 17th 2012
43
      Ah ha.
Oct 18th 2012
97
Now or Never is dope but...
Oct 17th 2012
13
I think I should clarify. That was a passive dope.
Oct 19th 2012
198
i fucks with it. mc eiht my nigga! hardest song on there
Oct 17th 2012
14
Yup, that's the standout for me as well
Oct 17th 2012
15
Yeah when that beat changes... SHIT
Oct 17th 2012
22
M.A.A.D City is definitely my favorite joint on it
Oct 25th 2012
496
This production is amazing...why can't others "rappers" do this
Oct 17th 2012
16
so can somebody split that 12 minute song
Oct 17th 2012
17
Yes. You.
Oct 17th 2012
18
Jay Rock killed his verse....
Oct 17th 2012
19
you guys are listening to the version with all 17 songs?
Oct 17th 2012
20
I'm missing the last 2 tracks too.
Oct 17th 2012
32
ok, yeah, i don't think those two have leaked yet
Oct 17th 2012
33
Target Exclusives...
Oct 17th 2012
36
Dude has always struck me as a one-man Outkast
Oct 17th 2012
21
I thought the same thing too
Oct 18th 2012
92
Sherane reminds me of A Day in the Life of Andre...
Oct 18th 2012
106
no doubt.
Oct 22nd 2012
330
      i think the nas comparisons are about the type of songs
Oct 23rd 2012
418
all new rappers need to listen to this and look themselves in the mirror...
Oct 17th 2012
23
future of hip-hop is shinin'
Oct 18th 2012
153
Share the goods...Please.....
Oct 17th 2012
25
pop pop n/m
Oct 17th 2012
29
RE: pop pop n/m
Oct 17th 2012
30
Me too.
Oct 17th 2012
69
Please pass the full version on (nbx), I can't find it....! nm
Oct 22nd 2012
360
Is there a collection of the non-album tracks in the last year or so?
Oct 17th 2012
26
1 listen in...
Oct 17th 2012
27
I think he solved
Oct 17th 2012
28
Nothing on here touches the awfulnesss
Oct 17th 2012
31
No Make up is one of his best you're wildin'
Oct 17th 2012
35
      You wylin son
Oct 17th 2012
37
           I've never been a "ok i skip this track no matter what"
Oct 17th 2012
45
           RE: You wylin son
Oct 17th 2012
48
i dont think you understand that song
Oct 17th 2012
46
      I've listen to section.80
Oct 17th 2012
47
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 17th 2012
34
I hella feel like this is a throwback to 90s albums...
Oct 17th 2012
38
some of the songs here are just mindblowing
Oct 17th 2012
39
Let down better than Sect. 80 though
Oct 17th 2012
40
How the Lesson judges albums amazes me...
Oct 17th 2012
41
I am not the lesson
Oct 17th 2012
44
      ooooooooo.k.
Oct 17th 2012
49
      yea this is how i basically rate albums
Oct 17th 2012
50
      what the what?
Oct 17th 2012
57
      oh the alternative is better?
Oct 17th 2012
63
           Haha You are literally the dumbest dude on here
Oct 17th 2012
67
                oh cool a both of irrelevant insults and this.......
Oct 18th 2012
101
      cosign this is how I rate albums too.
Oct 20th 2012
288
      RE: I am not the lesson
Oct 17th 2012
52
           Nah yo
Oct 17th 2012
60
                RE: Nah yo
Oct 17th 2012
74
                There's not a dud on any of those LP's
Oct 18th 2012
79
                RE: Nah yo
Oct 18th 2012
81
                You don't like Rocky?
Oct 18th 2012
96
                     RE: You don't like Rocky?
Oct 18th 2012
126
                LOOOOOL. Take Care is dude's WORST project.
Oct 18th 2012
88
                     Lol what?
Oct 18th 2012
94
                     i'm willing to bet all the money in my bank account that you're in...
Oct 18th 2012
102
                          I completely disagree with everything else dude is saying
Oct 18th 2012
104
                          I'm not a chick
Oct 18th 2012
123
                          Take Care is unquestionably Drakes best effort
Oct 19th 2012
209
                     RE: LOOOOOL. Take Care is dude's WORST project.
Oct 19th 2012
180
If anything hurts the album it's Backseat Freestyle.
Oct 18th 2012
90
I like when Kendrick's all aggressive
Oct 18th 2012
95
      RE: I like when Kendrick's all aggressive
Oct 18th 2012
98
           yeah Kendrick's songs being substantive means nothing to me
Oct 18th 2012
100
                YOU THOUGHT P.E. WAS A WEST COAST GROUP!!!
Oct 18th 2012
137
                What does that have to do with
Oct 19th 2012
158
                     Is that true though?
Oct 19th 2012
211
                     Yeah
Oct 19th 2012
215
                          lol, yeah if you never heard Public Enemy #1, Rebel Without A Pause,
Oct 19th 2012
236
                          Cube's album came three years after PE/Bomb Squad kicked off
Oct 19th 2012
237
                          SMH
Oct 19th 2012
244
                               I have and love PE's first 3 albums
Oct 20th 2012
267
                                    fourth is the start of the slide but still worth having
Oct 20th 2012
271
                                         Alright I'll check it out.
Oct 20th 2012
273
                     because you don't know shit about west coast rap?
Oct 19th 2012
241
                RE: yeah Kendrick's songs being substantive means nothing to me
Oct 18th 2012
147
Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst and then Real
Oct 30th 2012
595
and Cartoons and Cereal is too good not to be added as a bonus
Oct 17th 2012
42
they couldnt clear the cartoon samples
Oct 18th 2012
82
I give this album 5 chitlins hot sauced
Oct 17th 2012
51
Every song is great, but it feels like there's more skits than songs.
Oct 17th 2012
54
I like the skits
Oct 17th 2012
55
      Yeah, but like somebody else said.
Oct 17th 2012
59
Can't think of a rap debut in the last couple of years this ill
Oct 17th 2012
56
This isn't his debut?
Oct 25th 2012
491
cot damn this album is vicious
Oct 17th 2012
58
I can't fuckin wait to get home!
Oct 17th 2012
61
well, it comes out on Monday...
Oct 17th 2012
64
Excuse my ignorance but
Oct 17th 2012
65
      Silversun Pickups
Oct 17th 2012
66
4 songs in and 2 songs are already "meh"
Oct 17th 2012
62
2012 death certificate
Oct 17th 2012
68
UGH. I think I'm gonna wait...
Oct 17th 2012
70
changed my mind this shit sounds like a classic to me
Oct 17th 2012
71
lol
Oct 18th 2012
87
HAHAHAHAHA
Oct 18th 2012
118
      1st full listen. why are you mad tho?
Oct 18th 2012
119
           i aint mad I guess
Oct 18th 2012
135
                iono how well you listen to music.
Oct 19th 2012
202
                     In Rainbows was pretty good to me right away, it's all those
Oct 19th 2012
234
I wish Black Boy Fly had Ab-Soul on it.
Oct 17th 2012
72
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 17th 2012
73
dope.
Oct 18th 2012
75
yeah, this good.
Oct 18th 2012
76
what you say about dominoes!?!
Oct 18th 2012
77
That skit was hilarious
Oct 18th 2012
85
This hasn't even been out for 24 hours yet. Chill.
Oct 18th 2012
78
I'm in india - somebody help me out with an inbox
Oct 18th 2012
80
inbox
Oct 18th 2012
86
good but,
Oct 18th 2012
83
RE: good but,
Oct 18th 2012
89
I really liked after first listen
Oct 18th 2012
91
I wasn't a fan, but now I am
Oct 18th 2012
93
this is sick
Oct 18th 2012
99
      Yeah, not sure why people are complaining about the skits
Oct 18th 2012
103
Question about the storyline
Oct 18th 2012
105
RE: Question about the storyline
Oct 18th 2012
107
This sounds right, I thought of this as a possibility as well
Oct 18th 2012
108
after just 1 listen, here's what I heard
Oct 18th 2012
112
      yea cause later on she say she move the appoiment and
Oct 18th 2012
114
      RE: yea cause later on she say she move the appoiment and
Oct 18th 2012
116
           Any chance one of the dudes is Sherane's brother?
Oct 18th 2012
120
                I didnt' think of that you might be right
Oct 18th 2012
124
      I'm pretty positive "Sherane" comes right after "I'm Dying of Thirst"
Oct 18th 2012
133
           I saw this like a voiceover, or whatever it's called...
Oct 20th 2012
286
so what does M.A.A.D. stand for anyway?
Oct 18th 2012
109
Me an Angel on Angel Dust
Oct 18th 2012
110
corny
Oct 18th 2012
111
And it ties to the narrative as well
Oct 18th 2012
132
Minority Alliance of Anti-Discrimination.
Oct 18th 2012
140
I thought it was just a reference to maad circle too
Oct 23rd 2012
394
i thought the AA was capital for alcoholics anonymous...
Oct 18th 2012
149
Oct 19th 2012
196
WHATS THE SAMPLE ON PEER PRESSURE YALL?
Oct 18th 2012
113
Listen to the whole album in the car and it Passed
Oct 18th 2012
115
incredible.
Oct 18th 2012
117
Perfect up to sing for me just great after that.
Oct 18th 2012
121
classic
Oct 18th 2012
122
it's DOPE...and that's a lot for me cuz Section 80 was *ZZZ* to me.
Oct 18th 2012
125
A full focused effort by Kendrick. Very pleased
Oct 18th 2012
127
I'm stuck on "Real"
Oct 18th 2012
128
what the fuck is the sample for good kid????
Oct 18th 2012
129
Pharrell sang based off Roy Ayers "We Live In Brooklyn"
Oct 18th 2012
141
So here's where I'm at with the narrative (Interlude summaries included)
Oct 18th 2012
130
swiped from another board.
Oct 18th 2012
131
wow that makes sense
Oct 18th 2012
134
cool story, bro.
Oct 18th 2012
139
so now that we know the narrative structure of the album
Oct 18th 2012
145
I like that placement. Might have to throw it there on my playlist
Oct 18th 2012
152
good read
Oct 19th 2012
161
that is fucking awesome
Oct 22nd 2012
326
That was dope...
Oct 22nd 2012
327
the fading as something slowly killing her; drugs, AIDS, she says...
Oct 23rd 2012
421
Speechless......
Oct 18th 2012
136
This shit is Death Certificate meets Undun
Oct 18th 2012
138
Sing About Me sounds like Pussy and Patron to me
Oct 18th 2012
144
Maybe the weirdest major label rap album in some time
Oct 18th 2012
142
Right?! I said that up above.
Oct 18th 2012
143
it's a TDE album with Interscope distribution
Oct 18th 2012
146
      RE: it's a TDE album with Interscope distribution
Oct 18th 2012
148
shit, now that it took this long (& passed the show at Nokia last night)
Oct 18th 2012
150
he's the Nasir Jones of THIS generation
Oct 18th 2012
151
wow...
Oct 18th 2012
154
Now that you've heard it... who is buying it??
Oct 19th 2012
155
def going to target to buy it
Oct 19th 2012
159
Buying.
Oct 23rd 2012
429
Good Kid Maad City : Disposable Arts
Oct 19th 2012
156
ore like Long Hot Summer or Prince Among Thieves
Oct 19th 2012
182
A Piece of Strange
Oct 22nd 2012
341
Dude brought the West back y'all better believe that
Oct 19th 2012
157
Let's pretend Odd Future, Tyga, and Lil B havn't held it down. Ok.
Oct 19th 2012
162
      To me Kendrick sounds authentic west coast yet new age
Oct 19th 2012
163
      get real, all of those guys blow.
Oct 19th 2012
168
      Earl's Benjamin Button Ass Has No Chance Of Seeing Kendrick
Oct 19th 2012
171
      Lol that's subjective. Regardless of how you feel about the artists
Oct 19th 2012
191
      RE: Let's pretend Odd Future, Tyga, and Lil B havn't held it down. Ok.
Oct 19th 2012
169
      lmao I'm saying, though. n/m
Oct 19th 2012
210
      You're not from the west coast are you???
Oct 19th 2012
172
      I'm from Cali, and recently moved to Tennessee.
Oct 19th 2012
189
      all the people you named
Oct 21st 2012
309
           Dom Kennedy, Skeme, Problem yada yada. Either way Cali > You
Oct 22nd 2012
328
           i assume people who say tyga makes bullshit party music
Nov 24th 2012
693
A+ I slept so hard on this cat I just heard sec 80 yesterday
Oct 19th 2012
160
do yourself a favor & peep Overly Dedicated as well
Oct 19th 2012
167
      Done
Oct 19th 2012
174
Thoughts 2-3 listens in...
Oct 19th 2012
164
I understand completely.....
Oct 19th 2012
192
I always say I'm gonna wait
Oct 19th 2012
165
Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst=13th Floor/Growing Old
Oct 19th 2012
166
I'm late to the party, can someone help me out?
Oct 19th 2012
170
I'm gonna school y'all and how to not be a hater:
Oct 19th 2012
173
Your trolling is outta ideas like the third act of a Nolan movie
Oct 19th 2012
177
Bwahaah you still mad from that macklemore post?
Oct 19th 2012
184
      ^^^Post equivalent of Marion Cotillard's death face
Oct 19th 2012
185
           ^Heaven you need a hug
Oct 19th 2012
194
                ^^^The sound of the Batmobile running out of gas
Oct 19th 2012
201
                     ^Posting through a Bane mask
Oct 19th 2012
203
You're actually right about Kendrick's hype.
Oct 19th 2012
193
Yeah, sounds like he worked hard.
Oct 19th 2012
195
      I knew little about him, I avoid hype, and I'm thoroughly impressed
Oct 20th 2012
259
RE: I'm gonna school y'all and how to not be a hater:
Oct 19th 2012
197
3000 and Dr.Dre in studio w/Kendrick Lamar listening to album
Oct 19th 2012
175
Dope
Oct 19th 2012
179
I disagree....
Oct 19th 2012
200
3 Stacks is in a studio?!?
Oct 19th 2012
243
m.A.Ad. city is RAW .. Mc Eight..!!!
Oct 19th 2012
176
cmd+f "anticon"; "subtle" - 0 results
Oct 19th 2012
178
an erroneous comparison
Oct 19th 2012
205
care to elaborate?
Oct 19th 2012
206
      wow, I guarantee you Kendrick never heard Anticon
Oct 19th 2012
214
      you can't really guarantee anything in 2012 with rappers but
Oct 19th 2012
217
      That alien voice is more Andre 3k/Devin
Oct 20th 2012
251
           Exactly.
Oct 22nd 2012
372
I've always thought this.
Oct 20th 2012
249
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 19th 2012
181
Is Kendrick Lamar's 'Good Kid, M.A.A.d City' The Most Important Debut Si...
Oct 19th 2012
183
Nope
Oct 19th 2012
186
RE: Nope
Oct 19th 2012
187
      I don't diagree that this could be a HUGE
Oct 20th 2012
254
           RE: I don't diagree that this could be a HUGE
Oct 22nd 2012
350
Don't even do that man
Oct 19th 2012
212
yea, actually being of this generation, it's a number of Ye albums
Oct 19th 2012
213
Yep, if anyone's a "Nas" of this generation
Oct 19th 2012
218
RE: Yep, if anyone's a "Nas" of this generation
Oct 20th 2012
255
RE: yea, actually being of this generation, it's a number of Ye albums
Oct 19th 2012
220
      I did, you stopped me before my slight rebuttal to that
Oct 19th 2012
238
           RE: I did, you stopped me before my slight rebuttal to that
Oct 19th 2012
240
RE: Don't even do that man
Oct 19th 2012
216
lol @ I don't take music seriously
Oct 19th 2012
219
RE: lol @ I don't take music seriously
Oct 19th 2012
221
      Oh cute
Oct 19th 2012
224
           RE: Oh cute
Oct 19th 2012
226
stop trashing Take Care
Oct 19th 2012
222
RE: stop trashing Take Care
Oct 19th 2012
223
      fair.
Oct 19th 2012
227
      RE: fair.
Oct 19th 2012
230
      RE: stop trashing Take Care
Oct 19th 2012
229
#TYBG
Oct 19th 2012
225
      RE: #TYBG
Oct 19th 2012
228
let us...
Oct 19th 2012
231
RE: let us...
Oct 19th 2012
233
Say word nm
Oct 19th 2012
235
i love your posts man, especially this one.
Oct 19th 2012
239
Respect Fam
Oct 23rd 2012
400
great post.
Oct 27th 2012
555
Nah
Oct 19th 2012
246
      trying to school murph on what exactly?
Oct 20th 2012
250
           talking about Illmatic and ATLiens
Oct 20th 2012
257
                GOTCHA!
Oct 20th 2012
260
                     "fool"? Not me, YOU THOUGHT PE WAS A WEST COAST GROUP!
Oct 20th 2012
263
                          Oh the irony
Oct 20th 2012
268
Good read, fam.
Oct 19th 2012
248
RE: Good read, fam.
Oct 20th 2012
262
didn't we say this when goblin/the cool came out?
Oct 23rd 2012
420
When Doggystyle came out, that shit was ridiculous
Oct 24th 2012
478
I hear definite influences of others, but Im not mad
Oct 19th 2012
188
he clearly is inspired by Andre 3000 a this could have been a
Oct 19th 2012
190
yea this is 2012 outkast..the hooks, voice effects, the skits
Oct 19th 2012
204
IMO he's been W.E.I.R.D. for a minute
Oct 19th 2012
207
      well big boi is Weird 2 but Andre was so weird too it made him
Oct 20th 2012
253
           ^^^^
Oct 20th 2012
269
           RE: well big boi is Weird 2 but Andre was so weird too it made him
Oct 24th 2012
483
yes
Oct 22nd 2012
324
I wonder what happened to The Heart pt. 3
Oct 19th 2012
199
Possibly coming soon?
Oct 20th 2012
265
yup
Oct 20th 2012
275
      thank ya'll
Oct 20th 2012
282
HE JUST DROPPED IT
Oct 20th 2012
276
it took 3 listens
Oct 19th 2012
208
All I gotta say is ...
Oct 19th 2012
232
This didn't need a deluxe edition
Oct 19th 2012
242
black boy fly is the best song though.
Oct 19th 2012
245
this album is already better than mbtdf imo
Oct 23rd 2012
455
Well I think it's pretty substantial
Oct 19th 2012
247
      Didn't realize it's a double disc
Oct 20th 2012
252
i did some splitting
Oct 20th 2012
256
still haven't listened waiting til Tuesday
Oct 20th 2012
258
i think i've played maad city about 50 times since thursday
Oct 20th 2012
261
this shit is jammin' like a mufucka!
Oct 20th 2012
264
backseat freestyle isn't my favorite beat
Oct 20th 2012
274
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 20th 2012
266
just listened to it for the first time...i'm kinda confused...and that's...
Oct 20th 2012
270
The samples, if anyone's interested:
Oct 20th 2012
272
cool but what sample or who is singing at the end of Sing about me?
Oct 21st 2012
297
      RE: cool but what sample or who is singing at the end of Sing about me?
Oct 22nd 2012
340
           yeah I was trying to figure that out too.
Oct 22nd 2012
364
           its the dude JMSN singing
Oct 23rd 2012
387
                sounds like a 90s r&b song
Oct 23rd 2012
407
SO WHERE YALL PUTTING Cartoon & Cereal
Oct 20th 2012
277
on a made up EP with the bonus tracks + the Jeezy track
Oct 20th 2012
287
its on the unreleased vol. 1 bootleg
Oct 20th 2012
290
I put mine at the beginning
Oct 21st 2012
296
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 20th 2012
278
you really get hard dick telling us you like Chief Keef dont you
Oct 20th 2012
279
RE: you really get hard dick telling us you like Chief Keef dont you
Oct 20th 2012
284
You know damn well this isn't for *your* demographic, buddy.
Oct 20th 2012
280
RE: You know damn well this isn't for *your* demographic, buddy.
Oct 20th 2012
283
That goooooooooooooood hate!
Oct 20th 2012
281
      RE: That goooooooooooooood hate!
Oct 20th 2012
285
           You and Romney....
Oct 20th 2012
291
my weedman just came in on "bitch don't kill my vibe"
Oct 20th 2012
289
RE: my weedman just came in on "bitch don't kill my vibe"
Oct 20th 2012
292
Best rap album of 2012, and it ain't even close
Oct 21st 2012
293
RE: Best rap album of 2012, and it ain't even close
Oct 21st 2012
295
Its an album with such grand ambition, that it achieves it is incredible
Oct 21st 2012
299
killer mike R.A.P. Music is shittin on this
Oct 21st 2012
303
RE: killer mike R.A.P. Music is shittin on this
Oct 21st 2012
306
Why do you think this is so funny Murph
Oct 24th 2012
464
      he's being pretentious falling into the same 'hiphop savior'
Oct 25th 2012
505
      RE: Why do you think this is so funny Murph
Oct 26th 2012
545
lawl
Oct 21st 2012
310
YEA Rap music is def seeing this
Oct 21st 2012
311
I really like the Killer Mike album a lot, but again, it ain't even clos...
Oct 22nd 2012
342
      this shit kinda boring
Oct 22nd 2012
354
aight this is about 5 much.
Oct 21st 2012
305
i still prefer Ka - Grief Pedigree, but this IS good.
Oct 22nd 2012
352
RE: Best rap album of 2012, and it ain't even close
Oct 25th 2012
531
Buying 2 copies
Oct 21st 2012
294
okay now that i've listened to it more than once i can say this is a
Oct 21st 2012
298
Wiz is still looked at as #1 to the youngins...
Oct 21st 2012
300
We'll see what their first week #s look like
Oct 21st 2012
301
youngin as in like 11-14?
Oct 21st 2012
302
youngins like junior high to a couple years out of highschool...
Oct 21st 2012
313
      wow. wiz is aight but naw.
Oct 21st 2012
317
Among extremely casual top 40 fans maybe
Oct 21st 2012
304
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Oct 21st 2012
308
Like I said: MOST of Kend Lam's buzz is from older music heads/nerds
Oct 21st 2012
314
      RE: Like I said: MOST of Kend Lam's buzz is from older music heads/nerds
Oct 21st 2012
315
      You're confusing Joey Badass with Kendrick Lamar
Oct 21st 2012
316
      RE: You're confusing Joey Badass with Kendrick Lamar
Oct 23rd 2012
409
      ^^^too old to attend concerts.
Oct 22nd 2012
332
           My wife got us tickets for the show in Charlotte...
Oct 22nd 2012
363
                yeah, crowd was young at the LA show last week as well
Oct 22nd 2012
367
                     Irony. A bunch of oldies keep talking about how young the crowds are.
Oct 22nd 2012
379
                          RE: Irony. A bunch of oldies keep talking about how young the crowds are...
Oct 22nd 2012
381
                          Umm this discussion has nothing to do with the album
Oct 22nd 2012
382
                               RE: Umm this discussion has nothing to do with the album
Oct 23rd 2012
383
                               Seriously...read how sensitive you are this. This is funny.
Oct 23rd 2012
391
                               So went to a board where the average age is at least 25...
Oct 23rd 2012
385
                                    Look how sensitive y'all are. This is adorable.
Oct 23rd 2012
390
                                         This can't be the best you can do
Oct 23rd 2012
408
                                              Y'all getting mad at a point that has nothing to do with music
Oct 23rd 2012
427
                                                   ^^^^Old Hipster
Oct 23rd 2012
446
                          RE: Irony. A bunch of oldies keep talking about how young the crowds are...
Oct 23rd 2012
384
                          Nah, but all hip-hop shows skew young.
Oct 23rd 2012
392
                               RE: Nah, but all hip-hop shows skew young.
Oct 23rd 2012
399
                               RE: Nah, but all hip-hop shows skew young.
Oct 23rd 2012
404
                          OE is the bitch blowing the vibe...
Oct 24th 2012
479
I really hope a Black Hippy album actually happens...
Oct 21st 2012
307
So is that Lady Ga Gah on Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe??
Oct 21st 2012
312
popmatters sneak preview
Oct 21st 2012
318
halfway through this is crazy
Oct 21st 2012
319
one of my favorite albums of the year,
Oct 21st 2012
320
Drake actually sounds influenced by Little Brother on here
Oct 21st 2012
321
RE: Drake actually sounds influenced by Little Brother on here
Oct 21st 2012
322
Don't do drugs...
Oct 22nd 2012
323
Gimme all ya money ya bish, ya bish
Oct 22nd 2012
325
lol
Oct 22nd 2012
338
Target didn't even have it on shelves
Oct 22nd 2012
329
Target didn't even have it on shelves<--that's because it comes out 2mrw...
Oct 22nd 2012
333
Today's the 22nd, they've been saying 22 for a while now
Oct 22nd 2012
334
So you went this morning...
Oct 22nd 2012
336
      Naw no cash for it till next week... College life
Oct 22nd 2012
344
           I feel ya homie.
Oct 22nd 2012
346
SMH
Oct 22nd 2012
335
You aite nigga?
Oct 22nd 2012
337
They clearly didn't send out a memo
Oct 22nd 2012
369
They told me they didn't have it...
Oct 22nd 2012
348
RE: Target didn't even have it on shelves
Oct 22nd 2012
356
I'M ON BOARD.
Oct 22nd 2012
331
lol, he ain't thinking about this little nigga.
Oct 22nd 2012
353
      RE: lol, he ain't thinking about this little nigga.
Oct 22nd 2012
355
      except for the fact that he specifically came to the studio
Oct 22nd 2012
368
           I know right he won't even appear in videos he on songs with
Oct 23rd 2012
405
           sstfd
Oct 28th 2012
569
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 22nd 2012
339
He set it off in front of staples center lasnight for free after the lak...
Oct 22nd 2012
343
RE: He set it off in front of staples center lasnight for free after the...
Oct 22nd 2012
366
      peeps was lined up at compton best buy..
Oct 22nd 2012
376
Think About Me/Dying of Thirst stays on repeat
Oct 22nd 2012
345
that boom clap bachelors song and sing about me on repeat
Oct 22nd 2012
347
Target Special Ed. has Black Hippy Swimming Pools remix
Oct 22nd 2012
349
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 22nd 2012
351
Saw online that Target had it in stock ....
Oct 22nd 2012
357
The first you hear those gunshots cut the first verse of Sing Abt Me
Oct 22nd 2012
358
yea that part got me too
Oct 22nd 2012
359
Agreed n/m
Oct 22nd 2012
365
absolutely. messed me up on first listen.
Oct 22nd 2012
377
^^^^^
Oct 24th 2012
459
Free Kendrick performance + meet&greet @ Rasputin Berkeley Weds
Oct 22nd 2012
361
If your willing to get me one too ...
Oct 22nd 2012
370
They changed the policy up. Now it's 1 wristband per person...
Oct 22nd 2012
374
      thx than fam !!!
Oct 22nd 2012
375
That place is gonna be crazy...
Oct 22nd 2012
371
      Wristbands for the event already sold out @ 2 Rasputin locations.
Oct 22nd 2012
373
I need a full version of the Art of Peer Pressure Intro cut!
Oct 22nd 2012
362
RE: I need a full version of the Art of Peer Pressure Intro cut!
Oct 23rd 2012
423
I just realized this dude basically made Drake's 2nd album.
Oct 22nd 2012
378
RE: I just realized this dude basically made Drake's 2nd album.
Oct 23rd 2012
386
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 22nd 2012
380
have we talk about how he blacked out on Heart 3
Oct 23rd 2012
388
I look forward to the "replay value"/"does it still hold up" posts...
Oct 23rd 2012
389
Love it so far. Glad I copped instead of DL'ing. Only thing I don't like
Oct 23rd 2012
393
^^^^^^
Oct 23rd 2012
448
Sing About Me just hit me like a ton of bricks
Oct 23rd 2012
395
does the CD come with the lyrics?
Oct 23rd 2012
396
nah :-( its a pic of his daddy holding a double barrel tho
Oct 23rd 2012
397
      yo his face on that is funny as hell
Oct 23rd 2012
401
           funny as fuck actually ...
Oct 23rd 2012
422
the making of w/the album producers (link)
Oct 23rd 2012
398
I'm surprised at Pharrell on Good Kid. That beat is completely
Oct 23rd 2012
402
      Pharrell did his thing on it.
Oct 23rd 2012
403
      The beat for Good Kid was a leftover from the N*E*R*D album Nothing.
Oct 23rd 2012
436
           are you fucking kiding me?
Oct 23rd 2012
456
                Not 100% confirmed, but I trust The Neptunes stans.
Oct 24th 2012
467
Might get me fired
Oct 23rd 2012
406
AOTR - this shit is serious!
Oct 23rd 2012
410
a live album of this would be crazy
Oct 23rd 2012
411
Nah, Kendrick doing this whole LP backed by The Roots tho??!
Oct 23rd 2012
412
      Roots Picnic 2013?
Oct 23rd 2012
414
sales projections over 200k
Oct 23rd 2012
413
that's good and it should sustain with word of mouth and
Oct 23rd 2012
416
Exactly...
Oct 23rd 2012
417
job well done
Oct 23rd 2012
419
fuck thawt....
Oct 23rd 2012
445
XXL
Oct 23rd 2012
415
pitchfork gives it a 9.5
Oct 23rd 2012
424
RE: pitchfork gives it a 9.5
Oct 23rd 2012
430
inbox?
Oct 23rd 2012
425
RE: inbox?
Oct 23rd 2012
428
      Seriously...I copped and wasn't even a fan
Oct 23rd 2012
441
           fine, I'll wait until payday next week.
Oct 23rd 2012
443
Amazing.
Oct 23rd 2012
426
RE: Amazing.
Oct 23rd 2012
431
      Y'all was sweating, worried to click my reply LOL
Oct 23rd 2012
432
           Couldn't figure out an angle so you waived the white flag
Oct 23rd 2012
433
           ^ Good kid and m.a.a.D poster
Oct 23rd 2012
435
                Because your trolling used to be incredibly entertaining
Oct 23rd 2012
438
                You post like you ride a bike with no seat.
Oct 23rd 2012
439
                     Nope. Try harder
Oct 23rd 2012
442
                          you corny. Maybe dude for once just has nothin to say and digs it
Oct 23rd 2012
447
                               Yeah, he been stalking me for a week now, its flattering
Oct 23rd 2012
450
                               If the troll can't handle getting trolled, he shouldn't troll
Oct 24th 2012
475
                                    Nah, you tried stalking and got ethered. Shame on you
Oct 24th 2012
480
                Good kid and m.a.a.D poster <--- fuck lol i wanna steal this
Oct 23rd 2012
449
                     Be my guest, big homie
Oct 23rd 2012
451
           i believe that you do
Oct 23rd 2012
437
                Nah, I just bring erudite insight to the 85%
Oct 23rd 2012
440
I believe he can rap over any kinda beat..
Oct 23rd 2012
434
GAWDAM this is good. it made me go to the lesson.
Oct 23rd 2012
444
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 23rd 2012
452
Now or Never isn't even apart of the album, imo
Oct 23rd 2012
454
I love it violently
Oct 23rd 2012
453
People are paying top-dollar for sold out tickets to Kendrick's
Oct 23rd 2012
457
I got ASAP tickets...
Oct 24th 2012
458
      People are trading ASAP tix for Kendrick meet&greet tix
Oct 24th 2012
460
           WoW....
Oct 24th 2012
461
                Yep, people making deals on craigslsit and on Facebook
Oct 24th 2012
468
                E-40, Too Short and Kendrick all came out....
Oct 25th 2012
501
                I had a couple free tickets to the show in Pomona last week and was told...
Oct 24th 2012
469
Excellent (c) 3 Stacks
Oct 24th 2012
462
brilliant.
Oct 24th 2012
463
gotdamn Kendrick EAT'n.
Oct 24th 2012
465
this album is the shit
Oct 24th 2012
466
no talk about "collect calls" ?
Oct 24th 2012
470
County Building Blues and the Black Hippy remixes for Swimming Pools and...
Oct 24th 2012
471
      I didn't really care for the Black Hippy remixes...
Oct 24th 2012
472
      I wouldn't say they're better than the originals either
Oct 24th 2012
473
      RE: County Building Blues and the Black Hippy remixes for Swimming Pools...
Oct 24th 2012
474
      Never heard the Recipe remix
Oct 24th 2012
476
Damn, I'm kinda... underwhelmed by the album.
Oct 24th 2012
477
Honestly: this sound is a bit too busy, don't see it aging too well.
Oct 24th 2012
481
yeah...no clue what you mean....its conceptual....but the songs are
Oct 24th 2012
482
Some of the songs and hooks are definitely overdone.
Oct 24th 2012
487
      *scratches head*...This is a better album than Life is Good, to me
Oct 24th 2012
489
           Understated is underrated
Oct 25th 2012
494
There's a few skippers but personally I see it aging better
Oct 24th 2012
484
      Some of the beats and hooks are overdone imo
Oct 24th 2012
488
Kendrick's fav albums
Oct 24th 2012
485
I don't get it...
Oct 24th 2012
486
Other people feel it and you don't. Nothing else to discuss
Oct 25th 2012
492
      He has a right to discuss how he feels just like everyone else
Oct 25th 2012
493
           Truth
Oct 25th 2012
497
           hahaahahhahahaha
Oct 25th 2012
520
           You post like you ride a bike with no seat.
Oct 25th 2012
506
                Interesting. You just bit my reply, just like Kendrick bit Outkast.
Oct 25th 2012
512
Official fan of this album.
Oct 24th 2012
490
LOL brah, that's exactly how I felt about Section 80
Oct 25th 2012
495
yeah i thought section 80 was cool but this kills it
Oct 25th 2012
500
perfect summation, and yeah...
Oct 25th 2012
503
Kendrick kicked the door wide open with this shit.
Oct 25th 2012
498
it's been a really fantastic year for rap & this week has been the best
Oct 25th 2012
508
agreed.
Oct 25th 2012
517
this shit is dope
Oct 25th 2012
499
RE: this shit is dope
Oct 25th 2012
502
      some heads agreed.
Oct 25th 2012
515
Section.80>GKMC
Oct 25th 2012
504
i wish he had something like "michael jordan"
Oct 25th 2012
507
I love ADHD but Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe, Maad City & Money Trees
Oct 25th 2012
509
agreed
Oct 25th 2012
511
Felt that initially
Oct 25th 2012
514
After a week though?
Oct 25th 2012
518
      I def see where you're coming from
Oct 25th 2012
522
that's how i felt at first as i was listening
Oct 25th 2012
516
i've never got the obsession w/ adhd. its just a decent track to me.
Oct 25th 2012
524
      Dude.....
Oct 25th 2012
526
           i got the message. i just didnt think the song itself was all that inter...
Oct 25th 2012
532
                Fair enough......
Oct 26th 2012
543
Album of the year for sure. One of them instant classics
Oct 25th 2012
510
If nothing else, this album destroyed Orbit Established
Oct 25th 2012
513
best album of the year so far imo
Oct 25th 2012
519
fuckin 'Maad City'.
Oct 25th 2012
521
It's GOOD, really GOOD, but...
Oct 25th 2012
523
Get ready to be banned from the 'Lesson' for that opinion
Oct 25th 2012
525
RE: Get ready to be banned from the 'Lesson' for that opinion
Oct 25th 2012
529
      Nah, I'm right about that. Problem is that y'all are sensitive.
Oct 26th 2012
534
           Says the sensitive Lupe fan. I'll wait for the obnoxious retort below
Oct 26th 2012
536
           "Lupe is wack b/c he doesn't really skateboard" (c) The Lesson
Oct 26th 2012
541
           RE: Nah, I'm right about that. Problem is that y'all are sensitive.
Oct 26th 2012
538
                ^This is my point. Y'all are VERY sensitive about your little Kendrick.
Oct 26th 2012
540
                     RE: ^This is my point. Y'all are VERY sensitive about your little Kendri...
Oct 26th 2012
542
RE: It's GOOD, really GOOD, but...
Oct 25th 2012
530
      not to be misunderstood, i love the album and the hype is well deserved
Oct 26th 2012
535
I wish MC Eiht rapped on the first half of M.A.A.D City
Oct 25th 2012
527
I really don't understand the hype to this album...
Oct 25th 2012
528
Where would Cartoon's & Cereal be in the story line?
Oct 25th 2012
533
this is s good album, people
Oct 26th 2012
537
Instant Classic. Can we get a 1 to 5 star poll here in the Lesson?
Oct 26th 2012
539
RE: no such thing as an Instant Classic.
Oct 27th 2012
566
Its already the most overrated album of the last 5 years.
Oct 29th 2012
577
anyone know what song the screw'd up lyrics in the first verse...
Oct 26th 2012
544
Question:
Oct 26th 2012
546
krit wuz here, returnof4eva, 4evanaday
Oct 26th 2012
547
Good one
Oct 26th 2012
549
      many would disagree with you, including me
Oct 26th 2012
550
KRIT, Kanye, Curren$y, Killer Mike
Oct 27th 2012
567
hell no. this nigga JUST got a seat at the table.
Oct 28th 2012
570
LMAO. Only in the Lesson.
Oct 28th 2012
571
its too early, but after the hype/dust settles, i wonder what
Oct 26th 2012
548
You're askin these mfkrs a hard question......
Oct 26th 2012
551
      On the real...
Oct 27th 2012
552
           c'mon son...you did that
Oct 27th 2012
553
                RE: c'mon son...you did that
Oct 27th 2012
554
                GREAT post.
Oct 27th 2012
556
                     RE: GREAT post.
Oct 27th 2012
558
                     Just to clear this up.
Oct 27th 2012
559
                          RE: Just to clear this up.
Oct 27th 2012
560
                     i'm not letting you slide with this fam
Oct 27th 2012
561
                     Maybe to you......
Oct 27th 2012
562
                     looking at your list kind of emphasizes Illmatic's impact
Oct 27th 2012
565
                          Hmmm...
Nov 02nd 2012
665
                               Good shit. I like this post
Nov 02nd 2012
666
ALBUM OF THE YEAR?
Oct 27th 2012
557
Better then I thought it would be.
Oct 27th 2012
563
Compton is a letdown production wise.....
Oct 27th 2012
564
Edited album order
Oct 28th 2012
568
LMAO on this hate right here
Oct 29th 2012
572
RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)
Oct 29th 2012
573
No Offense.....
Oct 29th 2012
575
I'm assuming you like every new album by every artist.
Oct 29th 2012
576
I stopped reading....
Oct 29th 2012
578
He isn't any less open-minded than y'all are.
Oct 29th 2012
583
      RE: He isn't any less open-minded than y'all are.
Oct 29th 2012
588
I felt that way about his voice at first too...
Oct 29th 2012
580
Nah, sounds like you're copping pleas, honestly
Oct 29th 2012
582
      What's your angle here??
Oct 29th 2012
586
           LMAO! Classic Lessonhead response
Oct 29th 2012
587
           how many projects must you release??
Oct 29th 2012
591
           You're writing in caps
Oct 29th 2012
593
           RE: LMAO! Classic Lessonhead response
Oct 30th 2012
620
           He's been trying multiple angles for two weeks
Oct 29th 2012
590
OK, went back and re-listened (in full), and...
Oct 30th 2012
607
One week in: this is already annoying. I'm just about done with it.
Oct 29th 2012
574
Loss Established
Oct 29th 2012
579
o u still mad Macklemore selling with no promotion and buzz?
Oct 29th 2012
581
      Please, Im a WAY bigger Macklemore fan than your old hipster ass
Oct 29th 2012
589
Let's play what if....
Oct 29th 2012
584
      What if you weren't mad?
Oct 29th 2012
585
I like this a lot but don't love it
Oct 29th 2012
592
^This is honestly how I feel. Great review and perspective.
Oct 29th 2012
594
GKMC 1st Week Sales: 219,624
Oct 30th 2012
596
damn @ the dropoff
Oct 30th 2012
597
How on Earth is Adele still in the top 10?
Oct 30th 2012
599
Those aren't the final numbers for either record.
Oct 30th 2012
610
Drake did 450,000 in his debut.
Oct 30th 2012
612
      RE: Drake did 450,000 in his debut.
Oct 31st 2012
634
Aight after a couple of weeks i only listen to 6 songs consistently........
Oct 30th 2012
598
The fact that you still listen to that many songs consistently
Oct 30th 2012
601
atribecalledx.com- Album Review/Screw Album Remix
Oct 30th 2012
600
Finally stopped playing this at least once per day
Oct 30th 2012
602
I'll just give my two cents:
Oct 30th 2012
603
What 20 hip hop albums do you have ahead of this in 2012?
Oct 30th 2012
604
I actually got a list on my home computer.
Oct 30th 2012
605
      To each his own I guess.
Oct 30th 2012
606
      I'm pretty much with you
Oct 30th 2012
619
      I think you decided to name every hip hop record you've heard this year
Oct 30th 2012
611
           Saying its top 3 is more absurd than saying its top 20.
Oct 30th 2012
614
           k
Oct 30th 2012
616
           Agreed. It's 1 and that's it.
Nov 19th 2012
691
           Honestly, that's probably not even a third of the hip-hop albums...
Oct 30th 2012
615
                Respect
Oct 30th 2012
617
                     **daps**
Oct 30th 2012
618
alot of ppl have been complaining about the voice effect stuff
Oct 30th 2012
608
      RE: alot of ppl have been complaining about the voice effect stuff
Oct 30th 2012
609
      It lends to the album aging very poorly. Its too gimmicky.
Oct 30th 2012
613
"good kid, m.A.A.d city" To Debut At #2 With 240,000 Sold
Oct 30th 2012
621
RE: "good kid, m.A.A.d city" To Debut At #2 With 240,000 Sold
Oct 30th 2012
622
Drake did 450,000 in his debut.
Oct 30th 2012
623
lmaooooooooooo
Oct 30th 2012
624
Bwahahah ^LAAAAME excuse #1. Keep them coming
Oct 31st 2012
626
      lol, unbelievable n/m
Oct 31st 2012
628
      Chill with the blatant trolling, dog...U better than that...
Oct 31st 2012
629
           lol man, you know what time it is.
Oct 31st 2012
631
lol at competing with drake (he'll never get anywhere close in sales #s)
Oct 31st 2012
633
Yeah, I figured the Drake point would get y'all mad.
Oct 31st 2012
644
You sound mad
Oct 31st 2012
652
He also outsold J Cole...
Oct 30th 2012
625
I had literally never heard of J.Cole when his album dropped.
Oct 31st 2012
627
      Man stop you never heard of cole when the album drop
Oct 31st 2012
630
      well, now you're just lying...
Oct 31st 2012
636
           I think he did better than J. Cole for several reasons.
Oct 31st 2012
638
           ^Copping pleas for the fact that Drake sold more.
Oct 31st 2012
643
                ^Copping please that Lupe sold less. n/m
Oct 31st 2012
647
                ^^ Deliberately ignores everything that draws questions to his point
Oct 31st 2012
648
                No one cares that Drake sold more...
Oct 31st 2012
649
                You got the Romney flop down man...you even know where
Nov 02nd 2012
669
                     He stopped responding to these posts...
Nov 04th 2012
677
                     Lulz. You miss the boat every time.
Nov 05th 2012
682
                          lol, all right homie n/m
Nov 05th 2012
683
great numbers for kendrick
Nov 05th 2012
680
Only thing I don't like...Why's his voice cracking thru-out album?
Oct 31st 2012
632
pretty sure that's on purpose
Oct 31st 2012
637
Why the hell are people trippin on his voice?
Oct 31st 2012
635
He got that &quot;Eminem flow&quot;
Oct 31st 2012
639
Not everything needs to sound super polished....
Oct 31st 2012
640
      Oh and he sounds like...Frank Ocean to me, honestly
Oct 31st 2012
653
He has a terrible rapping voice
Oct 31st 2012
641
^Lock and archive after this truth. Good lord.
Oct 31st 2012
645
*Throws up hands*
Oct 31st 2012
646
Oh no doubt he can rap
Oct 31st 2012
650
This is just a lie.
Nov 05th 2012
681
      lol it's a matter of opinion - YOU say it isn't a problem
Nov 06th 2012
685
Nah, he's trying too hard. He need to just spit and do him.
Oct 31st 2012
642
I'm not surprised by the voice criticism....
Oct 31st 2012
651
Sing About Me would be one of the greatest songs EVAH
Oct 31st 2012
654
That's what made the album work for me....
Nov 01st 2012
657
      show me where I said it wasn't good
Nov 01st 2012
658
      ^Why Kendrick Lamar has the worst fan base in music
Nov 01st 2012
660
      I like his annoying voice.
Nov 01st 2012
662
      I totally agree with this...
Nov 01st 2012
663
I won't front, I hated his voice at first, too.
Oct 31st 2012
655
RE: Why the hell are people trippin on his voice?
Oct 31st 2012
656
Because as a rapper, your voice is an integral part of your art,
Nov 01st 2012
661
Because it matters
Nov 01st 2012
659
Poetic Justice is the Mamacita of this album
Nov 01st 2012
664
Funny that it's a LOT of people's favorite song. So NOTHING near
Nov 06th 2012
684
I agree with Tuesday Orbit
Nov 02nd 2012
667
I personally can't stop listening
Nov 02nd 2012
668
Excellent album, Compton is a weak closer though
Nov 02nd 2012
670
DOES ANYONE KNOW WERE CARTOONS AND CEREAL GOES!!
Nov 03rd 2012
671
as was said above
Nov 03rd 2012
672
lol @ ANYONE that has the gumption to pretend this shit aint dope
Nov 03rd 2012
673
<3
Nov 03rd 2012
674
RE: lol @ ANYONE that has the gumption to pretend this shit aint dope
Nov 03rd 2012
675
yes.
Nov 03rd 2012
676
the more I listen, the more I can't stop listening
Nov 04th 2012
678
I gotta disagree... The shows he was doing after OD came out...
Nov 04th 2012
679
his live show is actually good, the youtube camera phone recordings
Nov 26th 2012
722
is nobody else feeling County Building Blues like I am?
Nov 06th 2012
686
i LOVE it like most of the other bonus tracks...he should've saved
Nov 11th 2012
689
THANK YOU WHOEVER DECIDED TO REMOVE GAGA!
Nov 08th 2012
687
Yooooo Maad City goes so fucking hard in the party!
Nov 11th 2012
688
YO! Best Buy is gonna have the album for $5.99...
Nov 19th 2012
690
The collection of angry stans and trolls is staggering
Nov 24th 2012
692
RE: The collection of angry stans and trolls is staggering
Nov 24th 2012
694
LMAO...you posting a month later. Who the fuck mad now? Bwwhaaha
Nov 24th 2012
695
      You were less mad when you were posting about Macklemore
Nov 24th 2012
698
      damn homie you STILL upset at Macklemore?
Nov 24th 2012
699
           That reply...
Nov 24th 2012
700
                Ummm YOU brought Macklemore up in a KL thread
Nov 24th 2012
704
                     ^^Caught in the Range Rover with Ma$e
Nov 25th 2012
712
      RE: LMAO...you posting a month later. Who the fuck mad now? Bwwhaaha
Nov 24th 2012
701
      dude
Nov 24th 2012
702
      RE: LMAO...you posting a month later. Who the fuck mad now? Bwwhaaha
Nov 25th 2012
714
Orbit Established is why The Lesson sucks
Nov 24th 2012
696
How's the new Mike G mixtape?
Nov 24th 2012
697
Yeah, he pretty much tried his hardest
Nov 24th 2012
703
      Nah, that I'm striking so many nerves shows I'm on to something
Nov 24th 2012
706
           Yes O_E you are the only person who speaks his mind
Nov 24th 2012
707
           I got people bringing up Macklemore, doggie.
Nov 24th 2012
708
           Homie, it's just
Nov 24th 2012
711
                ^^^^^
Nov 26th 2012
721
           big KL fan? nooooope!
Nov 24th 2012
709
           wow
Nov 25th 2012
715
           Ugh. I bought the album, unlike y'all downloading non-fans
Nov 25th 2012
718
                I don't doubt that
Nov 25th 2012
720
           Time to start a new alias
Nov 25th 2012
713
Well, this is still my hip hop AOTR
Nov 24th 2012
705
It is. Only track from the proper album and bonus disc I don't like
Nov 24th 2012
710
reply 426 is why he's an awful person
Nov 25th 2012
716
Yeah, album didn't age well. Robotic voices grew thin.
Nov 25th 2012
717
Last week was the first time it really clicked with me
Nov 25th 2012
719
DOPE Motion Graphic Animation For "Swimming Pools (Drank)"
Nov 26th 2012
723
Gold in 5 weeks!
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I think the fact that he has a lot of qualities that old heads
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^^^ It's OFFICIAL in my book = CLASSIC
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1. "I can verify."
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Tracks aren't tagged. Well, not in the zip, they tag themselves in itunes.
It's m4a.
Sound quality sounds... off. Maybe it's just like this, seems like this might be a LQ rip. Maybe not.

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2. "Yup, getting the same deal"
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Track 01
Track 02
Track 03
etc

But they seem to tag themselves when in the media player

  

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3. "The snippets were kinda deceiving"
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I'm only 5 tracks in though.
Digging it pretty tough so far though.

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4. "how so?"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.â€

  

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7. "I think it's inherent in snippets"
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but there were several songs that the snippets had me very iffy about. "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe," for example, was chief amongst but I actually like the song.

Maybe it's just being dropped in the middle of the song without the proper build up and context, but the snippets had me kinda worried. I kept reminding myself, they're JUST snippets. I was worried for nothing. This shit is flames.

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24. "I NEVER check for snippets, especially in Rap. With R&B, I feel like"
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I can at least see where the song is headed...or head a few chords n say "ok, that's probably dope"...but with Rap, the quality of the audio is too important, and then the subject/story/lyrics are just teased on the snippet. I rarely hear them and get hype

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53. "This was the first time in forever i listened to snippets"
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I was that hyped for this album.
Probably won't be doing it again.

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5. "the full deluxe gouprip out now"
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the only song not out yet is collect calls I guess that will be the itunes or target bonus.

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6. "People concerned about the Drake verse... don't be."
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8. ""m.A.A.d city" is fucking BANANAS"
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EDIT: THE BEAT SWITCH!!!!

  

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84. "Yeap, a great homage to the west coast"
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9. "he delivered. this shit is dope. "
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gonna be fun letting it sink in.

  

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10. "He definitely did."
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The shit is definitely weird. But it's so ill.

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11. "one full listen and this is banging"
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I can't wait to really sit and catch everything he is saying..but his fans should not be dissapointed he didn't sell out he did him and made some dope shit.

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12. "Black Boy Fly... wow."
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Maybe it doesn't fit the narrative, but this belongs on the album.

Who's Jason Young though?

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43. "Jayceon "
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Wed Oct-17-12 07:33 PM by atruhead

  

          

https://twitter.com/thegame

  

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97. "Ah ha."
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Thanks.

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13. "Now or Never is dope but..."
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it definitely didn't fit on the album.

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198. "I think I should clarify. That was a passive dope."
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Ie it's cool. It's dope for what it is. I'm glad it wasn't included on the actual album, as it was originally listed on the track listing. But for songs of it's type, it's dope.

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14. "i fucks with it. mc eiht my nigga! hardest song on there"
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life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  

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15. "Yup, that's the standout for me as well"
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22. "Yeah when that beat changes... SHIT"
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Almost broke my neck.

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496. "M.A.A.D City is definitely my favorite joint on it"
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that REAL Los Angeles shit is on that record. Even in the first half, you hear a bit of that ol' Eazy-E in the beat

  

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16. "This production is amazing...why can't others "rappers" do this "
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why cause you love rapping you want to rap over wack shit lol.

this is really the closest thing to 2012 outkast..hooks, beats, not afraid to go out there, rapping and pop sensibility while not being soft.

this nigga delivered.

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17. "so can somebody split that 12 minute song"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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18. "Yes. You."
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http://mp3cut.net/

  

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19. "Jay Rock killed his verse...."
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Just getting to Sing About Me...


This is a really solid album so far...



Damn... I hope he does numbers...

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20. "you guys are listening to the version with all 17 songs?"
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i'm missing the last two songs. (collect calls and swimming pools)

  

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32. "I'm missing the last 2 tracks too."
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33. "ok, yeah, i don't think those two have leaked yet"
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36. "Target Exclusives..."
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And really, it's just one exclusive...

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21. "Dude has always struck me as a one-man Outkast"
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his cadence reminds me of the best of Big Boi, but his wordplay and content remind me of ATLiens era 3000.

kid is nice. if this album ends up as good as Section 80, he ain't going nowhere for a while.

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92. "I thought the same thing too"
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106. "Sherane reminds me of A Day in the Life of Andre..."
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beat and delivery.

  

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330. "no doubt."
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which makes the comparisons to Nas so perplexing.

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418. "i think the nas comparisons are about the type of songs"
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observing the danger and the poverty in the environment he grew up in, altho he puts himself into the song much more than nas who seems more like a bystander/reporter. their rapping styles are nothing alike though...the outkast comparison is definitely apt

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but keep doin your thang

  

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23. "all new rappers need to listen to this and look themselves in the mirror..."
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no excuses.

*looks at Cole, KRIT, Yelawolf and bunch of other rappers*

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153. "future of hip-hop is shinin'"
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25. "Share the goods...Please....."
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Can someone send me a link to this joint...The version I have is all tagged up and low....Thanks!

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29. "pop pop n/m "
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30. "RE: pop pop n/m "
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Thanks!!!!

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69. "Me too."
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360. "Please pass the full version on (nbx), I can't find it....! nm"
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26. "Is there a collection of the non-album tracks in the last year or so?"
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It feels like I've heard a lot of songs that aren't on here.

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27. "1 listen in..."
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It's quite good but it's going to take a few listens to really sink in. It's a very DENSE album (possibly to its detriment) but I need some more time with it. It seems like more of a "headphones" album than Section 80. My only real complaint so far is too many skits (for lack of a better word) tacked on the songs.

  

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28. "I think he solved"
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The one issue I had with Section 80 that I think wasn't necessarily an issue after many many listens. Well besides not having a hopelessly terrible track as No Make Up, and that hook. But this album is HELLA accessible. Everyone can just jump in and vibe the fuck out from the get go. Maybe cause I've been on Kendrick now thats its easier to get my ears tuned immediately, but I think this is the kind of record we've been waiting for. The one that grabs everybody it touches and takes them for a ride, the way our favorites did with their albums; Outkast, Tribe, Tupac, Biggie. Kanye. We're in Kendrick's world in this one, its a deeply personal album that has all the flavor and modernity to make this feel like a generational album for everyone. The themes and sounds that hes combining here with the story and concept of his Compton upbringing just feels so lush in this album. Its an album for everyone, but most importantly, its for Kendrick himself, and that's why he fucking won here.

Favorites: Backseat Freestyle, Poetic Justice, m.A.A.d city, Real, Compton

Honestly, after more listens I think I will have a personal connection with each and every song. This thing is the most versatile to come out in a while from a rapper, and I think that's where Kendrick shines, he can do anything.

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31. "Nothing on here touches the awfulnesss"
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of No Make Up. I think Section 80 was a more focused work but this one is going to require a dickload of listens before I fully form an opinion.

  

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35. "No Make up is one of his best you're wildin'"
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I use that song to put people on to Kendrick to much success.

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37. "You wylin son"
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That song is ass.

  

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45. "I've never been a "ok i skip this track no matter what""
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but honestly who hears "I LIKE THE WAY YOU...." and doens't fucking hit NEXXTTTTT

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48. "RE: You wylin son"
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Between the theme/lyrics and how it ties into "Keisha's Song" this song is FAR from ass. I get it you don't like the poppy hook which doesn't exactly fit with a Kendrick album at all, but cmon, overall the song is not ass.

  

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46. "i dont think you understand that song"
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47. "I've listen to section.80"
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more times through than any other album from last year. I do understand the meaning of the song. I think lyrically Kendrick is on point. But the combination of beat hook, and kind of a lackluster flow from KL is what turns me off to it and makes me want to go straight to the next one.

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34. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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Better than the copy I had while I was working on this Kendrick joint...

This is a special, important album....It's not about 12 songs banging...It's not about being perfect....

It's about having STRONG concepts, skill, songwriting, and self awareness...Someone said it right...He's taking you into his world like some of the best MC's/groups of all time have done....

It's the best album from the new generation of MC's (Drake, J. Cole, ASAP, Big Sean and the joints from his Black Hippy crew...)...

The '80s babies has their first NEXT SHIT album that the masses and underground can FINALLY agree on.....



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38. "I hella feel like this is a throwback to 90s albums..."
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Minimal features and the fact that there aren't a ton of "radio friendly" tracks on here... Swimming Pools is the most commercial sounding song on here... Besides that and Poetic Justice, the radio is gonna have to play the songs cuz they're good...

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39. "some of the songs here are just mindblowing"
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money trees and bitch don't kill my vibe....i don't even know what to say

  

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40. "Let down better than Sect. 80 though"
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Dre really surprised me on Compton lol because I didn't wanna insta skip upon hearing his voice.

Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst
and then Real

really hurts the LP for me.

M.A.A.D. City was the highlight for me.

I liked the skits at the end a lot, really made this first listen captivating, but after 3-4 spins it's probably gonna get grating.

Section 80 was 3/5 to me this is an upgrade to 4/5.

I don't think it'll knock P.O.S. out of rotation, or this Freeway Mixtape which is FLAMES!

Oh GOD PLUS THE GUCCI MIXTAPE TONIGHT?????

HIP-HOP's really had a great year

New A$AP a week from now?

OH yeah.

  

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41. "How the Lesson judges albums amazes me..."
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>Section 80 was 3/5 to me this is an upgrade to 4/5.

4/5 is a let down?? 5/5 is classic, right??


It really seems more often than not, shit in the Lesson is either labeled "CLASSIC" or "shit"... I know you didn't call the album shit, but I'm confused at an album you would rate 4/5 is somehow a letdown...

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44. "I am not the lesson"
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Wed Oct-17-12 07:39 PM by cjr2221

  

          

5/5 is instant classic, (LiveLoveA$AP, Take Care, Cosmogramma, Thug Motivation)
I hear it, say GOTDAMN THAT WAS INCREDIBLE
It changes my listening habits, gives me multiple cases of goosebumps
I know for a fact that 5+ years from now I will play it and enjoy it just as much as the first time I played it

But yeah with all this hype and the songs that did leak, Swimming Pools, Compton, Backseat Freestyle, Cartoons and cereal

I was expecting an instant classic from him, which I didn't get. It has its flaws, for a 5/5 the album has to be immaculate. So yeah when you're expecting a 5/5 a 4/5 is definitely a letdown for me.

4/5 is where damn near everything I hear falls

it's rare that I download an album/mixtape and don't enjoy it, this Trinidad james mixtape

I just downloaded is amazing I love it, but I know for a fact that 6+ months from now I'll probably forget it exists and if I listen to it years from now I won't enjoy it as much as I do now in this moment.

  

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49. "ooooooooo.k."
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>5/5 is instant classic, (LiveLoveA$AP, Take Care, Cosmogramma, Thug Motivation)

to each his own, i suppose.

  

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50. "yea this is how i basically rate albums"
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it's either amazing and blows my socks off first listen
or it's aight with the potential to become GOOD (or it's wack)
a lot of times i think ppl in here basically train themselves to like an album by repeatedly listening to it so that it "grows" on them
sometimes that happens organically
but when u have to listen to an album 5 times the night it came out so that you can convince yourself you like it......
gotta take ur opinion with a grain of salt

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57. "what the what? "
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is that really how you think it should work?

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63. "oh the alternative is better?"
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keep listening to some shit until you like it
isn't that how payola works?

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67. "Haha You are literally the dumbest dude on here"
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I mean, I wonder how you function.

I miss when you were hiding out in case bron bron lost.

Yes, the alternate is much better.

But you are a meek mill groupie for Christ sake.




Can I talk you into going into hiding until the season is over again?

Good luck casting that vote for Herman Cain in November too.

Yeah you are wrong a lot. And loud as fuck about it too. So you come off ignorant as shit. Stick to riding another mans jock in okaysports man

  

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101. "oh cool a both of irrelevant insults and this......."
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>Yes, the alternate is much better.

retardation

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288. "cosign this is how I rate albums too."
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It's very rare that after four or five listens an album grows into classic status. It would end up being hit or miss with some great highs on it. Y'alls way of rating seems forced.

  

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52. "RE: I am not the lesson"
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>5/5 is instant classic, (LiveLoveA$AP, Take Care,
>Cosmogramma, Thug Motivation)

I'm not one to start shit...lol...

But this good kid album is better than any of those joints you named (maybe) outside of Thug Motivation...

Hell, Take Care ain't even Drake's "classic" album....His breakout mixtape was better....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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60. "Nah yo"
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Wed Oct-17-12 09:23 PM by cjr2221

  

          

I think Take Care took everything good about So Far Gone and fleshed it all out into a nice long, cohesive, throw/wrap to put on on those cold Winter/Fall nights when you're feeling lonely.

LiveLoveA$AP is just pure dopeness, that came out around this time last year?

And still get's heavy rotation, that album will come to define my freshman year. What that tape brought with the production, and the southern influence, incredible.

And no MAAD City is not even close to being as good as Cosmogramma.


But whatever it's all opinion
Kendrick made a damn good album
Let's appreciate

  

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74. "RE: Nah yo"
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All that you said?


Nah...U need some new ears...lol

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79. "There's not a dud on any of those LP's"
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every song is strong, all of them are extremely cohesive with great sequencing LiveLoveA$AP is probably the weakest as far as being a nice cohesive body is concerned, but the pure dopeness of those beats w/Rocky's varied + interesting flows puts it over the edge.


At the moment, remember I've only span MAAD City 6 times.

Is waaaay to long. The thing that kills the potential for like 90% of really good Hip-Hop albums being great is usually length.

If the fat was trimmed from this, this could have easily been a 5/5 for me. If this had been 10 tracks.

If tracks 1-9 had all been left alone, cut out Sing about me, Real, keep compton, add Cartoons and Cereal, and cut the recipe. Then this album would have beeeeeeen waaaaaaaaay better and Waaaay more fun to listen to.

It's just too long

Like if I see a Hip-Hop album
and see a bunch of 4 minute plus songs
a creeping sense of dread enters my mind

Check the avy, that album is long as hell, but it's amazing*
*just realized Good Kid MAAD City's longer than SAW


I'm not the type of person who's rearranges an artists work, I don't cut or add or drag and drop tracks. I just play the album. When there's duds on an LP it really hurts it for me.

Take Care was long, but it all flowed together extremely well Take Care could just be one long track and I'd listen to it beginning to end.

Cosmogramma was probably the best album I listed above imo. It's short, amazing, can be played over and over and over and over and over and over again, beautiful album.


  

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81. "RE: Nah yo"
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>that album will come to define
>my freshman year.
>


^^^^^
explains the myriad questions I had about your music tastes.



Nevermind. I withdraw my argument.

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96. "You don't like Rocky?"
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126. "RE: You don't like Rocky?"
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I really like that album. I was just pointing out that some people are in a different demographic than I am age wise and we aren't going to see eye to eye when It comes to some comparisons, and that's OK.

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88. "LOOOOOL. Take Care is dude's WORST project."
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That's why your opinion is worthless in this case. Calling that a 5/5 is a joke.

I mean, let's throw up a poll and see who still listens to it even once a month.

Are they any lasting songs from that album? Maybe Crew Love but that's about it.

  

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94. "Lol what?"
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Take Care is his best imo.

There's not a single bad moment on that entire album aside from having to hear Nicki Minaj's voice.

Like name a single weak track on there... there are none lol.

So Far Gone is great but, Best I Ever Had is a dud to me it gets skipped everytime. Take Care's just better to me *shrugs*.

There is no Underground Kings on So Far Gone, or a HYFR. Marvin's room shits over Bria's interlude and the other R&B tracks on So Far Gone.

Dude CAMERA!!@?!? The Good One's Go

Lord KNOWS!?!?

Nah Take Care's on a whole other level. So Far Gone's not fucking with Take Care.

  

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102. "i'm willing to bet all the money in my bank account that you're in..."
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the LARGE minority in that opinion.

the only people i know who thing Take Care is even a GOOD (vs. average) album are chicks...unless you ARE a chick then it would make sense.

  

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104. "I completely disagree with everything else dude is saying"
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But I can definitely agree with Take Care being his strongest project. I can see why people wouldn't like it or place SFG or even TML ahead of it, but Take Care is my favorite for sure.

And for the record I'm not a chick.

  

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123. "I'm not a chick"
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Take Care has some of Drake's best songs imo.

He took what made So Far Gone great, built on it, and perfected it.

Take Care is like So Far Gone's first evolution upon reaching Lv. 32.

I'm just curious what to you is weak about Take Care or what makes So Far Gone better?

I'm doing the math and like I can't think of any aspect where So Far Gone is better than Take Care lol.


Hopefully he'll hit Lv 60 soon and reach his final form.

  

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209. "Take Care is unquestionably Drakes best effort"
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180. "RE: LOOOOOL. Take Care is dude's WORST project."
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>
>I mean, let's throw up a poll and see who still listens to it
>even once a month.

pretty poor metric in music saturated 2012. Let's take a poll of who's still listening to R.A.P. Music in four months or MBDTF right now. Let's take a poll of who thought MBDTF was amazing who's still listening to it right today. I'd wager very few people.

who cares if someone is still listening to something? It's more important, to me, what you liked about something WHEN you listened to it. I'm not about to play Ocarina of Time anytime soon; doesn't mean it no longer means what it meant to me. I'm not about to listen to 36 Chambers any time soon (by choice anyway), doesn't mean I don't think it's the best hip-hop album I've ever heard. It's just...there's more out there. Gotta move on sometime.


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90. "If anything hurts the album it's Backseat Freestyle."
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LOL @ cutting Sing About Me and Real.

You typed that shit with conviction, too.

  

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95. "I like when Kendrick's all aggressive"
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and is trying to spit with conviction. Backseat Freestyle slaps.

the slower more (I hate to say this "conscious") songs don't do anything for me. If I was 13 again and still going through my backpacking "conscious/political" hip-hop phase again


I'd love some of these songs, I don't really care about the message anymore I just want a nice beat and some venomous lyrics.

  

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98. "RE: I like when Kendrick's all aggressive"
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This post explains a lot...

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100. "yeah Kendrick's songs being substantive means nothing to me"
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137. "YOU THOUGHT P.E. WAS A WEST COAST GROUP!!!"
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Sit down!

  

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158. "What does that have to do with "
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me formulating an opinion on Kendrick Lamar's album?

  

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211. "Is that true though?"
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If so, how??

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215. "Yeah"
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I think it was a combination of

The Bombsquad production/PE being of the same ilk as a lot of Ice Cubes

and their producing a lot of Amerikkkahs Most Wanted
didn't they do the entire thing?

Plus you gotta admit, if you weren't around when PE was doing their thing and all you had to go on was the way their music sounds you'd probably assume they were a west coast act.

Like there's nothing about them that's indicative of them being from the East Coast at all;

"the city" was never a subject of Chuck D's rhymes like it is for 90% of all the other MC's from New York.

know what I mean?

  

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236. "lol, yeah if you never heard Public Enemy #1, Rebel Without A Pause,"
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seen the Fight The Power video, watched Do The Right Thing, The Night Of The Living Baseheads Video, heard Letter To The New York Post, checked the Self-Destruction video, or realized that Def Jam Records didn't have a West-Coast act until about 93 or so........then yes you would have no indication that Public Enemy was from the East-Coast at all.

>
>Plus you gotta admit, if you weren't around when PE was doing
>their thing and all you had to go on was the way their music
>sounds you'd probably assume they were a west coast act.
>
>Like there's nothing about them that's indicative of them
>being from the East Coast at all;
>
>"the city" was never a subject of Chuck D's rhymes like it is
>for 90% of all the other MC's from New York.
>
>know what I mean?
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237. "Cube's album came three years after PE/Bomb Squad kicked off"
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AmeriKKKa's Most Wanted was a direct reaction to N.W.A.'s west coast sound and Public Enemy's nihilistic sound bombing

It was very specifically east coast in sound although Bomb Squad incorporated a lot of west coast funk into the music to make it feel right for Cube

There's a reason the EP, Death Certificate and everything after feels very different than Cube's solo debut. He went back to the L.A. well after he'd made his point.


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244. "SMH"
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cats just really need to listen to more music before speaking on it, IMO.

I mean, you name checked PE as one of the few "west coast" acts you liked, when you obviously heard little of their music.

I mean.....c'mon.

  

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267. "I have and love PE's first 3 albums"
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How many LP's they got like 12?

Most of em are garbage more than likely.

I have everything they have that's worth having.

I've heard everything they've made that's worth hearing.

  

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271. "fourth is the start of the slide but still worth having"
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Can't Truss It, By The Time I Get To Arizona, Shut Em Down are all classic (as of course is the Pete Rock Shut Em Down remix or the live BBC version on Greatest Misses) & there's a few other solid-to-strong cuts.

The map didn't really get lost until after Apocalypse.

  

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273. "Alright I'll check it out."
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241. "because you don't know shit about west coast rap?"
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147. "RE: yeah Kendrick's songs being substantive means nothing to me"
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Again...that's very clear....lol

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595. "Sing About Me, I'm Dying of Thirst and then Real "
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"really hurts the LP for me."

I was here

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42. "and Cartoons and Cereal is too good not to be added as a bonus"
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i'll just put it at the end with the other bonus cuts.

  

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82. "they couldnt clear the cartoon samples"
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and kendrick didnt want to cut them.
or so i heard.

damn shame, one of the illest tracks of 2012 to me

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51. "I give this album 5 chitlins hot sauced"
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Passed the car test of course, think "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe" just became my new anthem.

PEACE LOVE and MONEY

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54. "Every song is great, but it feels like there's more skits than songs."
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If somebody edited out the skits the length would be halved.

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55. "I like the skits"
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they're funny and they connect the songs, get the vibe like the whole album is a day in the life type of thing.

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59. "Yeah, but like somebody else said."
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After you've heard them 3 or 4 times, you don't really need to hear them again (at least that's the case for me). It's not a huge issue as I can just skip them, except in the cases where there's a skit in the middle of a song.

On a more positive note. M.A.A.D. City is the song of the year.

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56. "Can't think of a rap debut in the last couple of years this ill"
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I'm floored.

Incredible debut. This plus Frank Ocean - black music is winning. So is LA.

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491. "This isn't his debut?"
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Section.80 wasn't a mixtape.

  

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58. "cot damn this album is vicious"
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but keep doin your thang

  

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61. "I can't fuckin wait to get home!"
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Y'all been fuckin with me all day with this shit! I'm tryin to wait till Tuesday too. This is the only album I've been this excited for in a while. Really since Speakerboxxx/Love Below,Food and Liquor, and Swoon.

  

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64. "well, it comes out on Monday..."
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Thats only a 5 days...

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65. "Excuse my ignorance but"
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who put out Swoon?

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66. "Silversun Pickups"
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Dope ass band.

  

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62. "4 songs in and 2 songs are already "meh""
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backstreet freestyle and art of peer pressure getting me kinda worried
bitch don't kill my vibe is crazy tho

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68. "2012 death certificate"
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greatest skits since 36 chambers

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70. "UGH. I think I'm gonna wait..."
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at least for the moment

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71. "changed my mind this shit sounds like a classic to me"
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especially in 2012
when i heard backstreet freestyle with those drums and "my dick get big as the eiffel tower" type lyrics i figured he was channeling kanye (in a bad way)
but this is real G.O.O.D music
and i don't hear outcast in this...i hear nate dogg
this shit is distinctly west coast to me
the TDE clique and earl sweatshirt might finally bring the west coast back

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87. "lol"
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118. "HAHAHAHAHA"
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are you fucking serious
Was that on the 1st half of the 1st listen, or the 2nd half of the 1st listen that you went from meh, to ok.


hahahaahahahaha fuck, your funny dude.

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119. "1st full listen. why are you mad tho?"
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let me know
just be glad i didn't have to listen to it 15 times to begin to like it

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135. "i aint mad I guess"
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was just funny that you were at first negative, and trying to quanlify the shit as if you werent convinced because after just 1 listen in you think you can figure out an honest opinion on it.

How long have you been listening to music with this opinion? For me, this is the exact problem with the music listening public. Its not the mainstream taste, or the lack of appreciation for instrumentation or anything like that. It's that people think that music should have this instant gratification, like there isn't something to be gained with repeated listenings. Good music isn't disposable, and stands up and gets BETTER with familiarity. It's not that we are tricking ourselves to get used to it, and make ourselves like it, at least I'm not.

Dude the whole term "CLASSIC" is based on the idea that it will stand up in listening years from now. And you want to call the shit after 1 listen (hell you were already riding the meh train after track 4, and you saw how that worked out for you).

Free Your Mind, and Your Ass Will Follow My friend

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202. "iono how well you listen to music. "
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but i can def tell how *good* an album is on FIRST listen
all this stuff about familiarity and holding up over time is what happens ORGANICALLY with.........GOOD albums
and you can normally tell on first listen if an album has the potential for that or not (which is what i said..go reread if you must)
so you basically wasted 2 paragraphs babbling against a straw man argument
i admit the classic ranking was in the moment hyperbole, cause there are like 4-5 songs on it that i don't like so iono if it stills qualifies as classic
but i added the caveat of "in 2012" anyway. even with the songs i don't like this is a "classic" album in this current rap climate imo

my beef is with ppl who admittedly don't like an album initially but have so much invested in the artist they repeatedly listen in order to convince themselves the album is good
if you're a diehard fan of any artist with an extensive catalog chances are you've done this at least once in your life
not sure how anyone could even deny it
i'm a huge radiohead fan and i tried to *convince* myself In Rainbows and The Eraser were good albums
basically by engulfing myself in those albums
if those albums were made by joe blow i would have never gave em a second spin
shit wouldn't have had the chance to "grow on me"




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234. "In Rainbows was pretty good to me right away, it's all those"
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other experimental blippy-n-shitty mid-2000s Radiohead albums like Hail To The Thief that I tried to 'grow' into before eventually giving up.

  

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72. "I wish Black Boy Fly had Ab-Soul on it."
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phemom's the name, all-star writer/
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73. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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Anyone have MP3 or 4's of "Collect Calls" and "Black Boy Fly"? My shit is tagged up....

I need those joints....If ya got 'em please send them my way....Thanks...

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75. "dope."
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Section.80 was one of my favorite albums last year, but some of the hooks and vocals were cringeworthy on a few songs.

I'm not really bothered by the "skits" at the moment since they seem to be pretty short and give some actually context and link the songs (e.g., m.A.A.d city to Swimming Pools), and they aren't very distracting. We'll see if I still feel that way after repeated listens.

  

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76. "yeah, this good. "
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77. "what you say about dominoes!?!"
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love the skits

the tracks are all hitting better on the second listen through. I know Kendrick is mellow, but the album is much more mellow front-to-back than I had expected...though that makes Compton hit pretty hard at the end.

good kid is the standout for me so far. That third verse as the beat crescendos is so so good.

My big complaint about section.80 was that some of the songs just seemed to get lost and it bogged down the flow of the album. That and Kendrick has a tendency to lock on to a phrase and repeat ad nauseum through a track, sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Both of those problems still exist on good kid, but much less so. The flow of the new one is great and that helps alleviate some of those quirks.

  

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85. "That skit was hilarious"
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Thank god every rapper stopped doing skits on their albums b/c very few are actually great at it. This is one of the times it worked well and flowed with the album.

  

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78. "This hasn't even been out for 24 hours yet. Chill."
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This sounds great, but keep your hyperboles to yourself until you actually grasp the music and let it soak in. This isn't like Schoolboy Q where you can just say "Welp, the flow, hook, and beat is great. BANGER"


An hour isn't enough to digest something that took a year to make. Just chill.

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80. "I'm in india - somebody help me out with an inbox "
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the internet po-lice is shutting ish down .. need to hear how the BCB sample came out (bitch don't .. - and the rest) - thanks in advance

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86. "inbox"
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83. "good but,"
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not great.

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89. "RE: good but,"
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this album is Great you guys got some unreal expectations swear to God

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91. "I really liked after first listen"
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Need a few more spins to grasp it all

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93. "I wasn't a fan, but now I am"
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99. "this is sick"
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HEY YO SPOILER! peep the sequencing and theme of the album from beginning to end skits included...the story is ill. dude is a genius

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103. "Yeah, not sure why people are complaining about the skits"
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Really helps the narrative and sets the mood.

  

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105. "Question about the storyline"
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At the end of the first song, when he arrives at Sherane's place, he is run up on my two dudes. At first you would think they are potential enemies, but the skit at the end of the next song suggests they are his friends who are picking him up to roll around the city. They also talk later about how they need to drop him off at his mom's caravan so he can see his Sherane.

Am I correct or am I mixing up the narrative a bit?

  

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107. "RE: Question about the storyline"
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he runs into a situation over at Sharane's one of the many perils of living in LA mAAd city...the first song is actually the last song...his parents keep calling him he never got to see Sharane he was set up by her, in fact he went out bullshitted with his friends after telling his mom that he'd be back in 15 minutes with the car...i am assuming that he didn't ever make it back home..i could be completely wrong though

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108. "This sounds right, I thought of this as a possibility as well"
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>he runs into a situation over at Sharane's one of the many
>perils of living in LA mAAd city...the first song is actually
>the last song...his parents keep calling him he never got to
>see Sharane he was set up by her, in fact he went out
>bullshitted with his friends after telling his mom that he'd
>be back in 15 minutes with the car...i am assuming that he
>didn't ever make it back home..i could be completely wrong
>though

So basically the album starts of with "Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe" which ends with his friends picking him up with a pack of blacks and a CD of beats, Kendrick freestyles (Backseat Freestyle), they smoke out, run up on some dudes in a rival gang and nearly get arrested (The Art of Peer Pressure) they plan their night out (wait til the sun goes down, drop Kendrick off at his mom's caravan so he can go meet up with Sherane and meet up after later in the night), and after he gets to Sherane's he's confronted by two dudes in black hoodies (possibly a response to K and his friends running up on those gang members earlier) and something bad happens?

  

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112. "after just 1 listen, here's what I heard"
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his mom asking about the van, song 1 might be the middle of the story

one of his boys got killed being approached on someone else's turf

the end is her telling him to hit the studio and change the world

  

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114. "yea cause later on she say she move the appoiment and"
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don't even care about the van she just want to get out the house away from his father singing.

I think he browwed the van (the end of compton) he goes to fuck with that girl gets set up (the 1st song)....his guys pick him up they shoot the shit, go find the dudes who set em up have a shoot out one of them gets killed then he gets saved and goes into the studio to do something great.

I need to listen to the skits all at once maybe lol.

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116. "RE: yea cause later on she say she move the appoiment and"
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>don't even care about the van she just want to get out the
>house away from his father singing.
>
>I think he browwed the van (the end of compton) he goes to
>fuck with that girl gets set up (the 1st song)....his guys
>pick him up they shoot the shit, go find the dudes who set em
>up have a shoot out one of them gets killed then he gets saved
>and goes into the studio to do something great.
>
>I need to listen to the skits all at once maybe lol.


HIT THE NAIL ONE THE HEAD

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120. "Any chance one of the dudes is Sherane's brother?"
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since a) KL mentions her brother is a gang banger and b) they confront KL right outside of her place?

  

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124. "I didnt' think of that you might be right "
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http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


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133. "I'm pretty positive "Sherane" comes right after "I'm Dying of Thirst""
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Because the opening of Sherane is the boys saying the same prayer they say at the end of Dying of Thirst. It's the same scene.

So After Sherane he gets jumped by those dudes. And after "I'm real" his mother sounds as if she thinks he's run away or something.
"If I don't hear from you by tomorrow, I hope you come back... and learn from your mistakes."

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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286. "I saw this like a voiceover, or whatever it's called..."
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If it was a film, I would see the audio of that prayer being played during the beginning credits, or being played before the film actually starts.

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109. "so what does M.A.A.D. stand for anyway?"
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110. "Me an Angel on Angel Dust"
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"Compton, U.S.A. made Me an Angel on Angel Dust, what" -last line of m.A.A.d city

  

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111. "corny"
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132. "And it ties to the narrative as well"
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In "The Art of Peer Pressure" they talk about him smoking the blunt that had the shenanigans in it. Shenanigans=sherm=angel dust. It contributes to the craziness that happens in the rest of the day.

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140. "Minority Alliance of Anti-Discrimination. "
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WC_and_the_Maad_Circle

  

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394. "I thought it was just a reference to maad circle too"
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149. "i thought the AA was capital for alcoholics anonymous..."
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since Swimming Pools is the single

Bandcamp/IG/FB/Twitter: @hecticzeniths

  

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196. ""
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Fri Oct-19-12 04:30 PM by agentB

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlFL32aeW28

  

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113. "WHATS THE SAMPLE ON PEER PRESSURE YALL?"
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115. "Listen to the whole album in the car and it Passed"
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with flying colors...great fucken album.

Meek has been been on notice.

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117. "incredible."
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knew he'd deliver.

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Leather In The Summer.
Silk In The Winter.


Twice upon a time,
there was a boy who died...
And lived happily ever after...

But that's another chapter...

  

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121. "Perfect up to sing for me just great after that."
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I didn't enjoy 'real' and 'dying of thirst' as much as the rest but this joint has made me very happy. Looking forward to copping.

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122. "classic"
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Dahi got the best joint on there. yep.


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125. "it's DOPE...and that's a lot for me cuz Section 80 was *ZZZ* to me."
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gonna get A LOT of play.

  

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127. "A full focused effort by Kendrick. Very pleased "
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128. "I'm stuck on "Real""
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This nigga rhyming over Future Soul tracks is the business!

When I can get to the rest of the album I'll review lol.

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129. "what the fuck is the sample for good kid????"
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I'm sitting here pissed i can't remember it

  

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141. "Pharrell sang based off Roy Ayers "We Live In Brooklyn""
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i dont know about any sample though

  

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130. "So here's where I'm at with the narrative (Interlude summaries included)"
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So here's how I think the story goes.


Kendrick's friends pick him up early in the day. They drive around the city, Kendrick freestyles for them over the CD of beats they got, they smoke, run up on some rival gangmembers and nearly get caught by the police. They plan out the rest of the evening. The plan is to drop Kendrick off at his house so he can grab his mom's van and head over to Sherane's.

Kendrick grabs his mom's keys and goes over to Sherane's who has set him up. He is confronted by two guys in black hoodies. He's interrogated by them, asking where he lives, where his family lives, etc. They tell him to get out of the van. (What else happens here though? Did I miss something?)

Later in the evening he meets back up with his friends, as planned earlier, and they plot their revenge on the two dudes who confronted Kendrick. They also think about getting Sherlane back for setting him up. They have a shootout with one the two guys and one of Kendrick's friends is shot and killed (Kendrick's two friends are brothers as the other friend claims they shot his brother).

The aftermath of the shootout is them meeting up with another friend who wants to get revenge again, but Kendrick's friend, and brother of the one who was killed, breaks down and just wants to leave this lifestyle completely. They are visited by an older female figure (who is this?) who claims they need God in their life. She leads them in a prayer to repent for their sins. Kendrick is saved and this marks the beginning of his new life.

Kendrick's mom leaves her final voicemail hoping that Kendrick leaves this lifestyle and returns home. She wants him to make it and become a role model and voice for the kids in Compton by telling his story as an example of being able to rise above the violence and be a positive person.



-------INTERLUDES IN WHAT I THINK IS CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER---------


Interlude #2 (end of “Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibeâ€)
Kendrick’s friends pick him up and tell him to get in their car and ride around with them for the night. They got a beat CD and demand a freestyle from Kendrick who is now sitting in the backseat of the car.

Interlude #3 (end of “The Art of Peer Pressureâ€)
After just escaping a cop car, Kendrick and his buddies, high off weed, discuss their next move. One friend wants to head back to the city while the other, the apparent leader of the group, suggests they wait til nighttime, roll out, drop of Kendrick at his mom's van so he can get in with Sherane, and meet up later that night at 10:30pm. All while lying to their parents about where they are and what they are doing.

Interlude #11 (end of “Comptonâ€)
Kendrick grabs the keys to his mom’s van and says he’ll be back in 15 minutes.

At the end of “Sherane†Kendrick is confronted by two dudes in black hoodies.

Interlude #1 (end of “Sheraneâ€)
Kendrick's mom leaves a voicemail asking where the hell he is with her car. She hopes he's not messing around with his hoodrat friends or hanging out with that girl Sherane. His dad wants to know where his "motherfucking Dominos" is at.

Interlude #5 (end of “Poetic Justiceâ€)
Kendrick is being interrogated by the two men in black hoodies who tell him to get out of his van.

Interlude #6 (end of “m.A.A.d cityâ€)
Kendrick and his friends are chilling. Passing around a bottle of liquor. One of his friends tells him “don’t trip†and to hit the bottle.

Interlude #7 (end of “Swimming Poolsâ€)
Kendrick and his friends discuss their revenge on the two men who confronted Kendrick earlier. One of his friends hopes to kill Sherlane (“that bitch who set him upâ€) as well. His friend shoots at the two men who ran up on Kendrick earlier, but they fire back and kill the friend’s brother.

Interlude #8 (between “Sing About Me†and “Dying of Thirstâ€)
The aftermath of the shootout. Kendrick and his friend meet up with someone else who wants to go back and get revenge. Kendrick’s friend (and the brother of the friend who died) cracks and claims he’s tired of this lifestyle.

Interlude #9 (end of “Dying of Thirstâ€)
An older female figure (not sure who?) is questioning their recent choices. She says he needs God in their lives and leads them in a prayer to repent for their sins. Kendrick is essentially saved, and this day begins to start of his new life.

Interlude #10 (end of “Realâ€)
The last of the voicemails from Kendrick’s mom. She says she hopes he turns his life around and makes something of himself.



Also, somewhere is another voicemail from his mom:

Interlude #4 (end of “Money Treesâ€)
Kendrick’s mom leaves him a voicemail letting him now she’s cancelled her appointment assuming he wouldn’t be home in time to give her back her car. She pleads for him to come home as she just wants to get out of the house since his dad is driving her crazy.

  

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131. "swiped from another board. "
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Good Kid, M.A.A.D City: A Short Film by Kendrick Lamar

Setting: Compton

Characters:

Kendrick Lamar (present Kendrick)
K.Dot (young Kendrick)
Sherane
Kendrick's Mother
Kendrick's Father
Dave
Dave's brother
Keisha's sister
Demetrius (Sherane's favourite cousin)
The Two Brothers (Sherane's younger brothers)
Granny (Sherane's Granny who she lives with)
Sherane's Mother (a crack addict)
Uncle Tony (Kendrick's Uncle who was killed)
Joey (either childhood friend of Kendrick or cousin)
L, Boog, Yaya, Lucky (friends/family members of Kendrick when he was 9)

The Story:

Sherane aka Master Splinter's Daughter

The story opens as a flash-forward. K.Dot has known Sherane for a number of months by this point. He met her at a party where they flirted and exchanged numbers. They kept in contact with each other over the summer and got to know each other pretty well, he talks about her family's history of gang-banging that made him wary but didn't stop him from hooking up with her.

At the end of this song K.Dot is driving to Sherane's house in his Mother's van, he has sex on the brain. But when he turns up Sherane is outside waiting with two dudes in black hoodies (possibly her two younger brothers, or her cousins, one of which could be Demetrius).

Skit #1 - as K.Dot pulls up at Sherane's house his Mother tries to call him but instead gets his voice-mail. We learn from his Mother that K.Dot said he was borrowing her van for just 15 minutes. She warns him not to mess with “them hoodrats” especially “Sherane”.

****, Don't Kill My Vibe

The content of this song doesn't actually follow the Sherane narrative. It is a song told from the perspective of Kendrick Lamar the rapper and how as he gradually gets more recognition as an artist he sees people around him changing, "I can feel the new people around me just want to be famous." He also talks about trying to maintain his credibility while becoming a more mainstream artist, "I'm trying to keep it alive and not compromise the feeling we love/You trying to keep it deprived and only co-sign what radio does."

Skit #2 – The narrative begins. K.Dot's homies pick him up in their white Toyota with a pack of blacks and a beat CD.

Backseat Freestyle

The most self-explantory song on the album. Young K.Dot cruising around town with his homies, getting high and dropping freestyles in the backseat. This is a life is good moment, living free, no troubles. The calm before the storm.

The Art of Peer Pressure

The narrative begins to build. The pressures of hanging with the homies becomes more than simply having a laugh and freestyling. The usually drug free and sober K.Dot is brought in to a world of drinking, smoking, and violence when with “the homies”. Cruising around in a white Toyota, hitting up girls, jumping dudes wearing rival colours, and bragging about what they just did.

The stakes are upped when K.Dot and his homies rob a house that they had been stalking for two months. Cops pursue them but lose them.

Skit #3 - The homies talk about dropping K.Dot off back at home, so he can take his Mother's van and go hit up Sherane – and then they can all meet back up later on the block.

Money Trees

K.Dot recaps the story so far.

He talks about robbing the house, "Home invasion was persuasive/From 9 to 5 I know its vacant."

He mentions ****ing Sherane and bragging about it to his homies, "I ****ed Sherane then went to tell my bros."

He references Backseat Freestyle when he talks about rhyming to beats, "Parked the car and then we started rhyming, ya bish/The only thing we had to free our mind."

And he talks about jumping dudes who looked like they had more money than them, "Then freeze that verse when we see dollar signs/You looking like an easy come up ya bish/A silver spoon I know you come from ya bish."

The line in the chorus "Everybody gon' respect the shooter/But the one in front of the gun lives forever." is deeply important, not just as a life motto, but in regards to the events that later take place in this story regarding Dave and his brother. It's also a reference to Kendrick's Uncle Tony, who was shot and killed at Louie's Burgers; this event is a snap back to reality from the "dreams of living life like rappers do."

Skit #4– K.Dot's Mother leaves another voice-mail. She wants her car back.

Poetic Justice

K.Dot has been dropped off back at home by his homies and is about to go see Sherane. He's probably driving on the way there in his Mother's van. He talks about her and their relationship so far - it appears they may have had some arguments, he talks about her meeting up with her girlfriends to curse him, and going out partying rather than talking with him.

Skit #5 – this is when we catch up with Sherane aka Master Splinter's Daughter. It starts where Sherane ended, and you can tell because that haunting female vocal (used in the beat to Sherane) comes back in this skit. The two dudes with Sherane approach K.Dot and ask him where he and his family are from (trying to work out what gang he is affiliated with). They force K.Dot out of the van and jump him.

Good Kid

This really sets off the theme of the second half of the album and it is all to do with - realisation.

K.Dot talks about getting jumped, "For the record I recognize that I'm easy prey/I got ate alive yesterday."

He discusses the negative effects of gang-culture, and being unable to escape the pressure of people wanting to know what gang he represents, "But what am I supposed to do/When the topic is red or blue/And you understand that I ain't/But know I'm accustomed to." Red or Blue obviously refers to the LA gangs of Bloods and Crips.

The red and the blue in the second verse become police sirens. K.Dot talks about getting no sympathy from the cops because they stereotype him as a gang-banger, making him lift up his shirt in order to look for a gang affiliated tattoo, "I heard them chatter: "He's probably young but I know that he's down"/Step on his neck as hard as your bullet proof vest."

K.Dot is trapped in a violent culture and can't get a reprieve from the gangs or the police.

M.A.A.D City

More self-awareness and realisation of the corrupt city that K.Dot lives in.

K.Dot's recent beat-down brings back early memories of similar situations, witnessing someone with their brains blown out at a burger stand back when he was 9 (I'm not sure if he is talking about his Uncle Tony again, or someone else), he thinks he knows the person who did it but he censors his name. He also talks about how his cousin was killed back in 94.

He talks about his Father telling him to get a job but he got fired after his friends pressured him in to staging a robbery. He gives his reason for why he doesn't smoke when he tells a story of smoking marijuana laced with cocaine and "foaming at the mouth."

In the final verse he tries to let the good shine through and offer respite for the youth and how they don't have to succumb to the temptations and pressures of the street. He hopes that his experience and intelligence can do good for the youth living in similar situations. "Compton, USA Made me an Angel on Angel Dust."

Skit #6 – K.Dot's homies meet back up with him later as planned. They try to boost him back up after his beat-down, and they offer him alcohol to take his mind off it.

Swimming Pools

An anti-alcohol song, that again plays in to the second half of the album's realisation about the vices previously holding Kendrick back. Kedrick talks about growing up around alcohol both within his family and group of friends.

Skit #7 – this is the big impact moment of the narrative. The plan is to take revenge on the dudes that jumped K.Dot. One of K.Dot's homies (possibly Dave) talks about maybe dropping K.Dot back off at home, but this idea is turned down, and K.Dot stays. The homies see the dudes that jumped K.Dot and a shoot-out begins. During the battle K.Dot's friend Dave gets shot. The dudes that shot Dave drive off and K.Dot is left holding Dave as he dies in his arms.

Sing About Me

Verse 1 – from the perspective of Dave's brother. He says the blood is on Kendrick's hands because the whole situation happened out of revenge for something that happened to Kendrick. But he says he appreciates that Kendrick was there for his brother and held him while he was dying. Dave's brother wonders if he will ever discover a passion like Kendrick to get him out of the hood – he says he hopes Kendrick will remember him and sing about him when he makes it big, and if he dies before the album drops...pop, pop, pop – he gets killed.

Verse 2 – from the perspective of Keisha's sister. She is mad at Kendrick for putting her sister on blast (on Section 80) without even knowing her properly. She talks about how she is living the same life as her sister, as a prostitute, and is proud of her living and what she does. She claims not to be just another woman lost in the system. She says her sister died in vein. Unlike Dave's brother she doesn't want to be sang about on the album. She feels great and says she'll never fade away....but then she does, her vocals slowly fade out in to obscurity...perhaps she died or just became another nameless "hoodrat".

Verse 3 – from Kendrick's perspective. Looking in the mirror. His fear of death. He speaks to Dave's brother, agreeing that Dave was like a brother to him. He speaks to Keisha's sister saying that Keisha's story was the one that drove him to write something that powerful and real – he didn't mean to offend. He talks of how music saved him and pulled him away from the drugs, money and guns.

Skit #8 – K.Dot's homies talking after Dave has been killed. Some of them want to go back and get revenge. K.Dot finally snaps and says he is tired of this ****.

I'm Dying of Thirst

Kendrick talks about been tired of running and gunning people down. It's just a circle of death. The perpetual struggle.

Skit #9 – K.Dot returns home, still angry and upset over Dave's death. Him or one of his homies have a gun with them that his Mother sees “That better not be what I think it is.” she says. She tells them that they are dying of thirst and that they need to take a new path and let Jesus in to their lives. She makes them prayer. From here on K.Dot begins to live a new life as Kendrick Lamar.

Real

This is Kendrick disregarding the street life and turning his back on gang-banging, drugs, alcohol, violence etc. The different meanings of being “real”. Are you real because you represent your hood and shoot people? Are you real because you try to escape that life and make something of yourself?

Verse 1 – about certain girls (but could be Sherane). She loves handbags, French Tip, bank slips. But what love got to do with it when you don't love yourself?

Verse 2 – about certain homies (but could be Dave's brother). He loves fast cars, fast women, beef, streets, ducking police, hood-life. But what love got to do with it when you don't love yourself?

Verse 3 – about Kendrick. He explains the previous two verses - “I love first verse cos your the girl I attract.” and “I love second verse cos your the homie that packed burner.” “I love what the both of you have to offer.”

He wonders if he should hate her for what happened or should he hate his homies for convincing him to seek revenge. Or should he hate the fact that none of that **** makes him real.

Skit #10 – voice-mail from his Father. He tells Kendrick not to make the same mistakes he did, and that none of this stuff makes him real and that he should get out and make something of himself. His Mother tells him that Top Dawg called and wants him in the studio – she tells him to take his music career seriously – that it is his chance to get out and tell his story to the kids of Compton so that they have hope. This is technically the end of the story in a narrative sense - the tape is ejected and then rewound.

Compton

The narrative is over. This song is after Kendrick has made it and is now giving back just like his Mother told him too. It's a positive outlook of a city that is often full of darkness and violence.

Skit #11 - the narrative starts over again when K.Dot borrows his Mother's van.

  

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134. "wow that makes sense "
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139. "cool story, bro."
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145. "so now that we know the narrative structure of the album"
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cartoons and cereal was probably meant to function as a flashback.... could have been put anywhere. maybe right before good kid?

  

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152. "I like that placement. Might have to throw it there on my playlist"
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161. "good read"
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life always offers you a 2nd chance...it's called tomorrow. use it wisely

  

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326. "that is fucking awesome"
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327. "That was dope..."
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_____________________________________________________________
Everyone here hates pop music, but loves Michael Jackson... Okay Player...

  

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421. "the fading as something slowly killing her; drugs, AIDS, she says..."
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Tue Oct-23-12 02:12 PM by FortifiedLive

  

          

she doesn't need to see a doctor because she feels healthy.

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136. "Speechless......"
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This album is incredible. This is what Lupe did with the Cool a few years ago but it's even taken to another level here. The narrative is pretty seamless and the vibe takes appropriate changes and on top of that these songs stand on their own, but this is best experienced as an album. I'll definately be buyin this on vinyl.

  

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138. "This shit is Death Certificate meets Undun"
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based on the narrative summary that I read below

Sonically, it's quite dope

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144. "Sing About Me sounds like Pussy and Patron to me"
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but not in a bad way like he was trying to remake it or bite the style of that beat.

PEACE LOVE and MONEY

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142. "Maybe the weirdest major label rap album in some time"
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I don't think you can honestly say Kendrick has compromised his sound with this one.

  

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143. "Right?! I said that up above."
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It is a weird album, sonically. Not in a bad way at all, though.

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146. "it's a TDE album with Interscope distribution"
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murph71
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148. "RE: it's a TDE album with Interscope distribution"
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It's still major label....They putting money behind the promotion and distribution of it...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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150. "shit, now that it took this long (& passed the show at Nokia last night)"
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might as well wait until Tuesday and unrap that packaging like a Christmas present while taking a very circuitous route home from work.

Show was incredible last night (I went to the late show since I showed up late expecting a rap start-time to be the usual but I guess they just decided to sell out Club Nokia twice in one night then stagger two shows).

Stalley opened up & sucked, what does this dude have besides that beard?

Jay Rock was better but he's the least charismatic TDE Fam for a reason.

Ab-Soul was strong, brought energy to the place & seemed to be the only other dude folks really knew relatively well.

But folks were clearly there to see Kendrick, whose stage backdrop was a replica of the front stoop of his parents house & he entered by hopping out the front door. At points he was even sitting on the stoop spitting.

Set list was mostly Section 80 (ADHD, Rigamortis, Hol Up, Spiteful Chant, HiiPower, Tammy's Song) and Overly Dedicated (P&P with Ab coming back out, Michael Jordan, H.O.C., Cut You Off) for the bulk of the show then finished off with features/songs-off-the-new-one.

First he brought Game out to do 'The City', I'm not the biggest Game fan but he was a welcome surprise at that point in & they murked that last a capella Kendrick verse together spitting face-to-face & Game capably finishing off Kendrick's bars in perfect time.

Game peaces out & Kendrick goes into 'Swimming Pools', with that beat sounding melodic as hell in a live format (and due to killing time downstairs at the Lucky Strike bar waiting out the first show crowd, I was diving in it a bit myself by the time that song came on at close to 2). I read Big Sean was onstage assisting on it but to be honest I forget to notice Big Sean on songs he actually does rap on anyway.

For the encore/close portiom brought out Dr Dre for Compton & then The Recipe. Crowd was nuts throughout but this was a fitting crescendo, Dre's appreciation of Kendrick's talent felt very genuine & apparent while looking up close from the front of the balcony overlooking the stage, that was my first time seeing Dre on a stage since I was 12/13 at the Spectrum in '89 with NWA.

Ironically enough that was probably the first show I attended with a metal detector and last night up to Nokia it felt like I was checking into an airport terminal coming in.

The more things change, the more things stay the same.

I still love this rap shit no matter how old I get it seems, I've seen damn near ever MC idol I ever had (most of em more than once) but last night gave me that special feeling again because I wasn't there to hear old hits by dudes I'd been listening to for twenty years.

I was there to see one of the few kids who can still give me the feeling those old legends did with what he's doing right now in this moment, feels cool to still get to see the ascension, be in the midst of something 'relevant' but also built to stand the test of time/fashionability.

Dude puts such care into everything that you know even if this album somehow bricked next week he's gonna be around for twenty years anyway.

  

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151. "he's the Nasir Jones of THIS generation"
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EXCELLENT album! He'll get my hard earned coin on tuesday

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154. "wow..."
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155. "Now that you've heard it... who is buying it??"
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I'm hitting Target bright and early Monday morning...

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159. "def going to target to buy it"
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http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

  

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429. "Buying."
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156. "Good Kid Maad City : Disposable Arts"
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†††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††††
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182. "ore like Long Hot Summer or Prince Among Thieves"
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based on the title and storyline outlines I've breezed over in this thread

which I'm really thankful for by the way, I probably wouldn't have been able to spend enough time with the album to piece all that together before deadline. Can't wait to pour over them.

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"I don't read pages of rap lyrics, I listen to rap music." © Bombastic
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341. "A Piece of Strange "
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http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


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157. "Dude brought the West back y'all better believe that"
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162. "Let's pretend Odd Future, Tyga, and Lil B havn't held it down. Ok."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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163. "To me Kendrick sounds authentic west coast yet new age"
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He's my draft pick. Right now he's carrying the torch. I mean dude brought out Eiht and paid homage to a classic Cube track. That shit had me cheesin hard as fuck.

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168. "get real, all of those guys blow."
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only one out there with any potential to do anything close to this good is Earl.

  

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171. "Earl's Benjamin Button Ass Has No Chance Of Seeing Kendrick"
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>only one out there with any potential to do anything close to
>this good is Earl.

  

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191. "Lol that's subjective. Regardless of how you feel about the artists"
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When it comes to new artists, the west coast has been dropping the most quality and hyped music in the past 2 years.

Of course, most of these west coast artists arn't as "lyrical miracle spirtual" as kendrick so the lesson will shit on this statement.


*shrugs*

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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169. "RE: Let's pretend Odd Future, Tyga, and Lil B havn't held it down. Ok."
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Lil B???? Tyga????

Man...lol

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210. "lmao I'm saying, though. n/m"
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172. "You're not from the west coast are you???"
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*clicks profile*

Tennessee... hmm...


You are right, artists have been holding it down for the west... Just none of the artists you named...

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189. "I'm from Cali, and recently moved to Tennessee. "
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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309. "all the people you named"
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make music for white kids.

tyga, bullshit party music

OF, bullshit shock music

Lil B? this nigga made a song about eating ass. . . come on now.

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328. "Dom Kennedy, Skeme, Problem yada yada. Either way Cali > You"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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693. "i assume people who say tyga makes bullshit party music"
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only heard rack city.
it's ok i was in that boat too until i gave his album a listen on a whim.
dude is pretty good and isn't a 'bullshit party' rapper at all.

THAT'S ENOUGH

  

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160. "A+ I slept so hard on this cat I just heard sec 80 yesterday "
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And listened to GKMC this am
Shit is incredible

I lost it on Maad City soon as Eiht came on

  

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167. "do yourself a favor & peep Overly Dedicated as well"
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it's right on par with Section 80 or maybe a small enough notch below it that you'll still thoroughly enjoy it.

  

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174. "Done "
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164. "Thoughts 2-3 listens in..."
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I'm sure this will have some hyperbole, but these are my thoughts as of now.

I love this is like an evolution of Section.80. Such a personal aura, and the narrative doesn't outweigh the actual songs. These are incredible songs individually, and it's an incredible project as a whole.

This album really just makes me feel grateful that I'm an active listener when it comes out. I often get jealous of people who were into rap during the golden era, because I wasn't into it at that time yet. GKMC really just makes me excited that someone this age is making music at a time I can understand and appreciate it. Probably sounds corny, but, yeah.

Love how he messes with different song structures throughout the album, too. And that he can show the downfalls of the hood without talking above them; he's certainly not the first to do it, but there aren't many that do it on that level anymore.

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192. "I understand completely....."
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People like Kendrick keep me excited about CURRENT music. I listen to a ton of older stuff jsut cause I like to catch certain vibes that are hard to catch now.....and I've always been hearing guys from a perspective that were in front on me and the last few years it started to hit center and now it's in a sweet spot. I'm going to enjoy the ride.

  

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165. "I always say I'm gonna wait"
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I'm glad I didn't and I'm gonna support but...

maaannnn!! This album bangs in the ride but i had to pull the denon 2000s out when i got home.

4.5/5 stars easy

"Unequal economics can easily make you some enemies" Cee-Lo

  

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166. "Sing About Me/I'm Dying of Thirst=13th Floor/Growing Old"
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The blueprint for this album had to be Atliens or Aquemini. And the nigga paid homage with that 12min opus. That complete thing is mind-blowing!

That and the song sequence and skit game reminds you of everything you loved about albums like The Chronic, 36 Chambers and Aquemini. This is a throwback to that '93-'98 era of classics.

"Unequal economics can easily make you some enemies" Cee-Lo

  

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170. "I'm late to the party, can someone help me out?"
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Inbox?

  

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173. "I'm gonna school y'all and how to not be a hater: "
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1) I actually don't like this nigga. I've thought
his music until now has been "Meh." Seems to me
like he's overhyped ala Jay Electronika and
that he's just old/bitter hip hop heads' answer
to Drake and Lupe (like I said, he's old people's
"why can't you kids be like __?").


2) That said, too many people are saying good things
for this kid to not get my money. I'M NOT EVEN DOWNLOADING.
I'm BUYING this when it drops just because I'm open-minded
and not a hater. I really want this shit to be good so
that we can all be on the same page about a talented
artist. And I WANT my money to be worth it, so I'm definitely
TRYING to like it.


^^See how easy that was?

No intellectual insecurity.

No being mad.

Putting my MONEY up to prove it.






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177. "Your trolling is outta ideas like the third act of a Nolan movie"
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You're just throwing shit at the wall now hoping something will stick. You know a "Macklemore is better" argument won't fly so you have to stall. You were all set to take the King Troll crown from Maxx but that's finished now. You let me down, dude. You let the whole Lesson down.

  

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184. "Bwahaah you still mad from that macklemore post?"
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How I get you mad in a post about being open-minded
and not being a hater?

bwahhaha

My specific point is how I'm not hating, but being
open minded and supportive

Unlike you in here foaming at the mouf

: - (

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185. "^^^Post equivalent of Marion Cotillard's death face"
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You better pray Tyler unexpectedly drops something next week cuz whatever Kendrick riff you're formulating ain't gonna work.

  

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194. "^Heaven you need a hug"
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>You better pray Tyler unexpectedly drops something next week
>cuz whatever Kendrick riff you're formulating ain't gonna
>work.

uhhh i'm talking about SUPPORTING KENDRICK and
WANTING to like him

Unlike y'all I'm BUYING the album and not robbing
him by downloading

Honest assessment:
You need a nap and a warm blanket

Reeelaaxx brother


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201. "^^^The sound of the Batmobile running out of gas"
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Im guessing you're going to go the "Lasers is better and you hipsters are such hipsters that you can't see it" route.

  

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203. "^Posting through a Bane mask"
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Dunno what happened to you

Prolly had a bad week

I dunno

Gimme a hug, doggie

I'll be your protector, no Macklemore

  

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193. "You're actually right about Kendrick's hype."
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I never was a fan, but I watched him make moves since 2010 so his hype is well earned.

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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195. "Yeah, sounds like he worked hard. "
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I definitely haven't liked most of the stuff
I've heard so far

But I'm thinking this album will be different,
because even cats in my situation say its good

I look forward to it dropping

I'll cop day 1


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259. "I knew little about him, I avoid hype, and I'm thoroughly impressed"
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Got a feeling you will be too man

  

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197. "RE: I'm gonna school y'all and how to not be a hater: "
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This was basically my approach to F&L2.

Enough heads said it was lyrically dope, and I went against my haterish instincts, and bought it at Target last week. It has not left the Alpine face-off since.

  

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175. "3000 and Dr.Dre in studio w/Kendrick Lamar listening to album"
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http://www.rollingstone.com/music/videos/kendrick-lamar-vibes-out-in-the-studio-with-dr-dre-andre-3000-20121019

  

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179. "Dope"
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He should've gotten Andre instead of Drake on Poetic Justice.

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200. "I disagree...."
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As much as it pains me to say this.....and as much as I can;t stand Drake.....he really fit this song well. It was all up in his wheelhouse. 3000 would have taken me outta this song a lil bit.

  

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243. "3 Stacks is in a studio?!?"
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Thank you BASEDKENDRICK!

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176. "m.A.Ad. city is RAW .. Mc Eight..!!!"
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https://twitter.com/onnextlevel

  

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178. "cmd+f "anticon"; "subtle" - 0 results"
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hmmmm.



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205. "an erroneous comparison"
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206. "care to elaborate?"
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because I'm not saying this is a Doseone album or anything, but that alien compression he puts on his voice for inner monologues (particularly on the first track) along with the overarching story motif that carries over from one album to the next in both direct and abstract ways is straight out of the White Meat -> For Hero: For Fool handbook. It's a way more accessible approach to it thanks to Kendrick's verses generally being slowly delivered in his actual voice, his lyrics taking a less confrontationaly metaphorical approach and the production being very much "of its time", but I'd gone back to For Hero: For Fool recently and before this album dropped and good kid, m.A.A.d city feels very much like that album in terms of its proof of concept, translucent vocal manipulation and requiring multiple listens to dig through all that subtle refraction.


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214. "wow, I guarantee you Kendrick never heard Anticon"
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217. "you can't really guarantee anything in 2012 with rappers but"
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I'll buy that. I'm just saying, some of the things he's done have brought to mind the way Doseone and Yoni Wolf put together albums for a while. It's dope to hear him bring that weirdness and storytelling angle to a really accessible format.


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251. "That alien voice is more Andre 3k/Devin"
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than Anticon.

  

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372. "Exactly."
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249. "I've always thought this."
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That Kendrick sounds like Dose, that is. But meanwhile totally aware he may not have heard him. Stranger things have happened.

  

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181. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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K.Dot did it, Im happy for me. Will definitely buy it.

  

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183. "Is Kendrick Lamar's 'Good Kid, M.A.A.d City' The Most Important Debut Si..."
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No...I'm not saying it's on Illmatic's level....I'm saying that Lamar has made an album that will mean just as much to this new generation as Illmatic meant to the old heads....Read on...And Tweet/Facebook out to your folks...Yep...(Swipey Swipe...)


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VIBE
Is Kendrick Lamar's 'Good Kid, M.A.A.d City' The Most Important Debut Since 'Illmatic'?
K. Murphy


As album debuts go, Nas’ landmark 1994 Illmatic has elevated to otherworldly status even within the pantheon of towering hip-hop statements. For many rap fans and music critics, the vivid set has taken on Citizen Kane like status—a work so vast, inventive and powerful that it is viewed as the cultural and artistic game changer of its time. So without further ado, here’s some red meat for the music blogging contingent: Kendrick Lamar’s stunning debut, good kid, M.A.A.d City, is the most important freshman release since the Queensbridge, New York legend proclaimed to the world that life’s a bitch.

Sounds sacrilegious? Stay with us. While the much talked about 25-year-old Compton, California MC will find it nearly impossible to live up to Nas’ glorious masterpiece (it’s hard to beat nostalgia), he is doing something else that is just as impressive. Dr. Dre’s newest co-sign is living up to the hype. Lamar, who lit up the underground rap scene with such noise-making mixtapes as Youngest Head Nigga in Charge (2003) and Overly Dedicated (2010) and his acclaimed indie release Section.80 (2011), is not at all running away from the buzz of him being the West Coast’s hip-hop savior.

In fact, Kendrick Lamar seems to be on everyone’s mind these days. Jay-Z lauds him. The aforementioned Nas has called him the future. Even Lady Gaga has sung the kid’s praises. “Everything he’s doing is done with integrity,” MTV personality and Sirius Satellite radio host Sway Calloway tells VIBE. The West Coast hip-hop authority believes Lamar has purity about him. “His music is done with passion and thought,” he adds. “Kendrick spent time and energy on these songs, man.”

As thirsty fans feverishly hunt down leaks of the October 22 release, VIBE breaks down why good kid, m.A.A.d city conjures up memories of a young Nasir Jones and what the upcoming album means for the future of California rap and beyond.—Keith Murphy (@murphdogg29)


5. Good Kid Delivers In More Ways Than One

By now tracks from good kid, m.A.A.d city have been premiered at listening events. And the reception from critics has mostly been two lanes of unmitigated praise and hyperbole. But in between measured applauds and over-the-top proclamations for Kendrick Lamar’s confident debut and (there are Kendrick STANS claming that it’s the greatest album of the decade…true story), there is some middle ground. What Lamar has achieved so far in his young career is indeed impressive and warrants talk of the West Coaster having the best hip-hop album of the year on his hands.

Good Kid is original, without trying too hard; Sublimely lyrical without any of the look-ma-no-hands verbal gymnastics that at times disconnects gifted MC’s from the general public and (gasp!) thoughtful in the way Lamar approaches rhyming. He’s not just trying to be clever or latch on to a radio smash or strip club anthem. But yet you can envision him throwing racks in the air amid a bevy of dancing girls. He’s ridiculously real.

4. Check The Rhyme

As hit singles go, “Swimming Pools (Drank)” sounds like the type of creeping, synthy, 808 romp that, say, 2 Chainz could rock over with ease. But let’s dig deeper inside the content: “Okay, now open your mind up and listen to me, Kendrick,” his inner voice implores. “I know that you're nauseous right now/And I'm hopin' to lead you to victory, Kendrick/If I take another one down I'mma drown in some poison abusin' my limit…”

The victory? A female conquest. But Kendrick Lamar is not a player. “The freedom is granted as soon as the damage of vodka arrive,” his inner conscious continues. A line that implies liquid courage in a hip-hop song in 2012? How earth shattering. If Lamar is trying to score a mammoth Billboard radio anthem, he sure has an off-centered, non-conformist way of going for the win. And there are more unpredictable displays of songwriting and wordplay on good kid, m.A.A.d city. More on that later.


3. Kendrick Just May Save Dr. Dre’s Detox

According to reports, Kendrick Lamar has been in the studio with Andre Young finishing up his now mythical, is-this-shit-ever-coming-out album Detox. That work now only lags behind Guns N’ Roses’ Chinese Democracy, a 2008 release that earned its legend by its comical long-in-the-making recording history, which began in 1994. Dre started manning the boards for Detox in 2001. Yet hearing some of the tracks on good kid should make any deflated Dr. Dre fan smile (The Just Blaze produced “Compton,” which features Mr. NWA himself on the mic, offers an optimistic template). No, the Good Doctor didn’t produce any cuts on Lamar’s release, but the newcomer’s infectious energy sounds like it’s already serving as inspiration.

It’s no secret that on the two Dr. Dre masterpieces (1992’s The Chronic and 1999’s 2001), the iconic producer was fueled by two great, genre-expanding MC’s: Snoop Dogg and Eminem, respectively. Perhaps Dre’s ridiculously slow pace in the studio stems from the fact that he hasn’t had the sort of MC that can truly take command on record beyond hit-making. 50 Cent didn’t seem to play well with others outside his G-Unit set. And the Game? He’s never had the diverse rhyme palette to be an exceptional ghostwriter or fluid partner for Dre. Kendrick Lamar seems to have both attributes, and much more. Get it done, guys.


To read the rest, go to:

http://www.vibe.com/photo-gallery/kendrick-lamars-good-kid-maad-city-most-important-debut-illmatic

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186. "Nope"
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187. "RE: Nope"
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Thanks for the support....lol

But on the real, if I was a 23 year old dude who wanted to hear more than just Big Sean, this Lamar album would be a punch in the jaw...

That's how seriously profound this album is....

It's the best I've heard from any of the new generation of MC's (Drake, J. Cole, Odd Future, Big Sean ASAP...any one of them....)

And I'm a cat that's not easily impressed....

Just saying...

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254. "I don't diagree that this could be a HUGE"
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album for kids but I think so much is different in the genre/industry now that the comparison wouldn't really hold up. I have no fault with your writing though. It was a good piece.

  

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350. "RE: I don't diagree that this could be a HUGE"
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>album for kids but I think so much is different in the
>genre/industry now that the comparison wouldn't really hold
>up. I have no fault with your writing though. It was a good
>piece.


Thanks homie.....

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212. "Don't even do that man"
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yall older niggas, are hyping this more than us younger people are lmao and it's funny to me.

B/c Kendrick's definitely a big deal on campus/es, but nobody think's he the messiah lmao.

Comparing this to Illmatic isn't even cool yo.

Then homie up above comparing Sing About Me/ I'm Dying of Thirst

to 13th Floor???

Blasphemy and I was still sucking my mom's teet when ATLiens came out.

Yall are a little TOO gassed off of this.

It's a good feeling though when you've been fully homogenized into hype so I'll let you guys, you guys being older heads who are jaded/uninterested in contemporary Hip-Hop, bask in this little bit of solace you've found.

  

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213. "yea, actually being of this generation, it's a number of Ye albums"
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that are taking that Illmatic cake. I get the idea of the lyricism angle, but like the little discussion in that Noz thread it's a gang of people 18-24 that find supposed "non-lyrical" folks like ASAP Rocky, Jeezy or Drake (just random examples I hear a lot from folks that will use a phrase like "for rap in 2012, this is aight") to be plentiful in that regard.

the only useful editorializing that can really come from this album is that there will never be another "Nas" in terms of his legend, partially for the same reasons that TV shows are never going to penetrate pop culture the way a M*A*S*H, Good Times or Cheers did. the world is too saturated and specialized; in certain circles, Curren$y is Nas.

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218. "Yep, if anyone's a "Nas" of this generation "
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it'd be Kanye West.


motherfuckers killin me in this thread I'll just step out but,
/tangent
Even still I don't think there will ever be another "Illmatic"

I have no 90's nostalgia, still remember the exact day I heard Illmatic for the first time it wasn't that long ago.

That album's immaculate and not b/c of nostalgia, it's good because it just is.

It's just that good.

Nas is just that good.

This is when getting caught up in the hype goes wrong.

Kendrick != Nas

This album is not seeing Illmatic in any form other than its cohesiveness in telling the story of Kendrick.

Nas with Illmatic was lightning in a bottle.

Nas can't make another Illmatic, he's no longer that kid anymore.

Illmatic's diving, just as you don't depict the prophet Mohammed don't say anything's akin to Illmatic.

  

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255. "RE: Yep, if anyone's a "Nas" of this generation "
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>Illmatic's diving, just as you don't depict the prophet
>Mohammed don't say anything's akin to Illmatic.


So true

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220. "RE: yea, actually being of this generation, it's a number of Ye albums"
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>that are taking that Illmatic cake. I get the idea of the
>lyricism angle,

I stopped you there...THAT IS THE ANGLE...lol

The lyricism angle is one of the biggest reasons besides the fact that it sounds the way albums sounded back in the day...From sequencing to substance to production to the actual song structures...

'Ye has indeed made great albums...But I'm not talking about just any album....I'm talking about DEBUT albums...And when it comes to Ye's first album (which was a game changing release substance wise), Ye was not Ye at his best lyrically...He had yet to go to the next level rhyme wise...He was still the producer that just happened to rap...

This is why good city gives me that same feeling as Illmatic...It doesn't mean it = Illmatic...Doesn't mean it's on that level...It means, it's the first album of this NEW generation of album that gives me that good feeling...

Again...some of y'all got hair triggers...lol

Read through the entire joint if you have time....Then come back to me, homie..

Cool?

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238. "I did, you stopped me before my slight rebuttal to that"
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that "lyrical" seems disparaging in some ways to artists that "we" relate to quite easily and find full of substance, just perhaps not THAT substance.

I'm not pulling triggers, just prodding your hypotheses...we're pretty much in agreement, it just feels weird to read people hoping for people of my age to have something your generation had...when there's a good chance twentysomethings already had it, in a different way.

I'm not touchy enough to feel antagonized, but I can see how plenty of folks could feel like..."wait, you're telling me I'm SUPPOSED to relate to / take more away from (this/that/the other)?" (Whether they exist on this board, I won't assume. These people are all straw men to me, folks are so general in their tastes, including me, these days.)

Again, no skin in this game, just poking around.

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240. "RE: I did, you stopped me before my slight rebuttal to that"
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>that "lyrical" seems disparaging in some ways to artists that
>"we" relate to quite easily and find full of substance, just
>perhaps not THAT substance.
>
>I'm not pulling triggers, just prodding your
>hypotheses...we're pretty much in agreement, it just feels
>weird to read people hoping for people of my age to have
>something your generation had...when there's a good chance
>twentysomethings already had it, in a different way.
>
>I'm not touchy enough to feel antagonized, but I can see how
>plenty of folks could feel like..."wait, you're telling me I'm
>SUPPOSED to relate to / take more away from (this/that/the
>other)?" (Whether they exist on this board, I won't assume.
>These people are all straw men to me, folks are so general in
>their tastes, including me, these days.)
>
>Again, no skin in this game, just poking around.


Props....

And I'm def. not telling you you SHOULD RELATE...

My thought process is hip-hop will always be a part of me...No matter if I'm 50 plus...

So when I talk to younger heads about music I'm doing so as both a cultural peer and someone who has seen and heard a little more than some folks...

But of course, that doesn't mean I can't hear the difference between P.E, Rakim, Ice Cube, Nas, Scarface, Outkast, ect, with say 2 Chainz, Big Sean, Rick Ross...


I recognize that the latter acts serve a great function...U can ride out to that shit...Wild out to that shit at the club...That shit is party music...And we need that the same way we needed Too Short like we needed back in the day...

But something about a new act like Lamar goes much farther than those latter acts...It is what it it...

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216. "RE: Don't even do that man"
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>yall older niggas, are hyping this more than us younger
>people are lmao and it's funny to me.
>
>B/c Kendrick's definitely a big deal on campus/es, but nobody
>think's he the messiah lmao.
>
>Comparing this to Illmatic isn't even cool yo.

Slow down there, homie...lol

I was there for Illmatic...And if you think I'm simply saying it's on Illmatic's level, my whole point went over your head...

Let me put this in bold CAPS for you...

IT MAY JUST BE THE MOST IMPORTANT DEBUT SINCE 1994's ILLMATIC...To me, it lives up to the same mountainous hype that Nas had to with his debut...It also means a lot to the West Coast much in the same way that Nas' debut meant to the NYC...And easily the best West Coast album in more than a decade....

There are a lot of things going on in this piece...It's more than just Good Kid = Illmatic...

I understand that a lot of younger heads are really on that Ipod/Ipad, let-me-get-through-this-shit-fast mindset...

The trouble with some heads TODAY is they don't know how to listen to albums...Everything has to be a banger...Every song has to be tailored for this or that...Hell, if every song doesn't bang in the ride, it's useless....Right?

And that's not their fault because the art of creating an album is all but dead...What a lot of artists are listening to today are compilations of songs...

To me, out of all the new jacks out right now, this Lamar kid has made a real album in the truest sense of how they were made from the late '80s to the 98-99....



>
>Then homie up above comparing Sing About Me/ I'm Dying of
>Thirst
>
>to 13th Floor???
>
>Blasphemy and I was still sucking my mom's teet when ATLiens
>came out.
>
>Yall are a little TOO gassed off of this.
>
>It's a good feeling though when you've been fully homogenized
>into hype so I'll let you guys, you guys being older heads who
>are jaded/uninterested in contemporary Hip-Hop, bask in this
>little bit of solace you've found.

Listen...you have already outed yourself here...You think Drake's latest joint is his best album...

So I'm a bit leery with what you think, but at the same time I respect your point of view because after all it's your opinion...

But here's the deal...Read through the entire piece...Then come back to me with a more level-headed argument/debate/opinion...

You also said you don't care if the album was substantive...

Guess what?

I do....And that substance was a huge part of Illmatic...To me, this is the first new generation hip-hop album that gives ME that vibe...

Dig?


I take music seriously...And I take music critique seriously...Sometimes it's up to the OLDER HEADS to throw out a little history and give things perspective...

Because if the people who were actually there can't do it, who will???

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219. "lol @ I don't take music seriously"
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w/e brother.

I know you guys are gassed b/c you finally have a contemporary hip-hop album you can enjoy.

Please continue to stumble through the haze of hype, I'll be back when it blows over.

  

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221. "RE: lol @ I don't take music seriously"
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>w/e brother.
>
>I know you guys are gassed b/c you finally have a contemporary
>hip-hop album you can enjoy.
>
>Please continue to stumble through the haze of hype, I'll be
>back when it blows over.


Finally?...lol

Cute homie...But so wrong...

I dug J Cole's joint...Dug Jeezy's Thug Motivation...dug 'Ye's Fantasy joint...Hell, I even dug Drake's first studio album...And you better believe I'm waiting for Earl to do his thing (I think he's gonna be the best out of that Odd Future clique)

Basically, U barking up the wrong tree on this one... As someone who does this shit professionally I have to sift through the bullshit...

So when I hear an album that hits that sweet spot on the bat, I'm a happy fan boy...

And that's what good kid does for me...

It makes me glad that I have to no longer waste my time with Big Sean...

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224. "Oh cute"
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you've dugged like 4 Hip-Hop albums recently that's awesome.

You're age is showing, and I feel for you.

I don't blame you older heads for jizzing your pants over this LP that's why I said I'll let you guys bask in the feeling to love Hip-Hop again.

I actually have a way more detailed reply to your response to me that didn't get posted for some reason that I'll reup.

  

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226. "RE: Oh cute"
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>you've dugged like 4 Hip-Hop albums recently that's awesome.
>
>You're age is showing, and I feel for you.
>
>I don't blame you older heads for jizzing your pants over this
>LP that's why I said I'll let you guys bask in the feeling to
>love Hip-Hop again.
>
>I actually have a way more detailed reply to your response to
>me that didn't get posted for some reason that I'll reup.


I mean you want me to name 1000 albums I like from the last 10 years...lol

Is that where we are going now?

Listen...You jumped the gun....It's that simple...

Something squirming in your brain led you to think that my entire piece was Illmatic = Good Kid...

That's the problem...U r debating something I never said...

I think my point was a lot more nuanced than that...But hey...do you homie...


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222. "stop trashing Take Care"
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and then praising this album mainly for being a "real album in the sense of... (other eras)".

You couldn't find someone that disliked Drake much more than I did during the So Far Gone era...Thank Me Later swayed me, Take Care fully converted me. (Omitted calling it a beast; substitute "was a complete album with a clear focus, intent and point of view)

It's just odd to me that you keep using it as some sort of negative commentary on this guy's tastes (or that older folks in general prop So Far Gone or Comeback Season up as some sort of thing Drake didn't do WAY better afterward).

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223. "RE: stop trashing Take Care"
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>and then praising this album mainly for being a "real album
>in the sense of... (other eras)".

Whose trashing Take Care? It's not on the level Drake's earliest work....

And I just happen to think that it's not on good kid's level...But it's a good album for it is...An album aimed at chicks (If I was 19, Drake would be my favorite MC...lol...Because that's how you get the young broads...They love that yella nigga)


>You couldn't find someone that disliked Drake much more than I
>did during the So Far Gone era...Thank Me Later swayed me,
>Take Care fully converted me. (Omitted calling it a beast;
>substitute "was a complete album with a clear focus, intent
>and point of view)

I like his first mixtape and I liked A LOT of his studio debut...But I don't look at Drake in the same way I do at a Andre 3000, Nas, ect....I just think that Lamar is much better...


>It's just odd to me that you keep using it as some sort of
>negative commentary on this guy's tastes (or that older folks
>in general prop So Far Gone or Comeback Season up as some sort
>of thing Drake didn't do WAY better afterward).

I'm using it because TO ME. it says a lot...That he would choose his most formulaic album as his best...And to be honest, I'm a staunch critic...lol...So that's just me being me...

Bottom line...I like some of Drake's joint...I was there for his first show in NYC and it felt like an event...So I know what he means to today's hip-hop scene...

I just think he's not in Lamar's weight class lyrically or conceptually...

But that's just me....

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227. "fair."
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I was just commenting on this:

"Listen...you have already outed yourself here...You think Drake's latest joint is his best album...

So I'm a bit leery with what you think, but at the same time I respect your point of view because after all it's your opinion..."

It just feels like unnecessary shade on dude. If it's his opinion (or mine, or many others actually in Drake's demographic) is it really true that dude outed himself in any way other than being someone who grew up on 50 Cent, Kanye, Game and latter day Jay-Z? Hits his 20s and sees Drake albums as a filter of all the rap and other genres they've been listening to in their formative years, the same folks looked at Illmatic or Chronic?

good kid is certainly one of this generation's great accomplishments, but so was Section.80, and Take Care, and plenty of mixtapes like K.R.I.T.'s Returnof4eva.

And I'd still be interested to hear your take on the segmentation argument (I'm sure you've given it somewhere, either here or in an article); ie. Curren$y's Pilot Talk being for certain hip-hop fans what Nas' Illmatic was to most hip-hop fans.

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230. "RE: fair."
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>I was just commenting on this:
>
>"Listen...you have already outed yourself here...You think
>Drake's latest joint is his best album...
>
>So I'm a bit leery with what you think, but at the same time I
>respect your point of view because after all it's your
>opinion..."
>
>It just feels like unnecessary shade on dude. If it's his
>opinion (or mine, or many others actually in Drake's
>demographic) is it really true that dude outed himself in any
>way other than being someone who grew up on 50 Cent, Kanye,
>Game and latter day Jay-Z? Hits his 20s and sees Drake albums
>as a filter of all the rap and other genres they've been
>listening to in their formative years, the same folks looked
>at Illmatic or Chronic?



Oh...I am throwing shade on dude...lol...i just don't think Take Care is among his best work and at times it panders...


>good kid is certainly one of this generation's great
>accomplishments, but so was Section.80, and Take Care, and
>plenty of mixtapes like K.R.I.T.'s Returnof4eva.


I think Drake's greatest work so far is his first mixtape...That album was a revelation in terms what was perceived as OK to do in hip-hop...His singing added another essence to the music...And his conversational style of rhyming and open book style was badly needed...

>And I'd still be interested to hear your take on the
>segmentation argument (I'm sure you've given it somewhere,
>either here or in an article); ie. Curren$y's Pilot Talk being
>for certain hip-hop fans what Nas' Illmatic was to most
>hip-hop fans.


I think Curren$y is on the cusp of something special...He just needs the right producer to put it all together for him (I dig dude's style...He's cool without even trying too hard...)

But he's not reaching Drake's first mixtape or good kid...

I'm also ready for Freddie Gibbs to go to the next level....


But my bottom line is this....Out of all these MC's/rappers (Drake, J. Cole, Big Sean, ASAP Rocky, Curren$y, Gibbs, Odd Future crew, Wiz K., ect...), Lamar has just made the album that reminds me of MY ERA...

And he's doing so on his own terms, which is pretty damn refreshing...

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229. "RE: stop trashing Take Care"
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>(If I was 19, Drake would be my favorite MC...lol...Because that's >how you get the young broads...They love that yella nigga)

I actually don't know many girls who like Drake; I know more girls who vehemently hate Drake than I do girls that love him.


>I'm using it because TO ME. it says a lot...That he would choose his >most formulaic album as his best...And to be honest, I'm a staunch >critic...lol...So that's just me being me...

You call it formulaic?
---------
First of all there's nothing wrong with a formulaic album if it works.

The problem with the modern cookie cutter Hip-Hop album to me is that you end up having a monstrous creature of Frankenstein type album with no uniformity.
You can't tell me Take Care isn't uniform.
----------

I call it being expansive/varied/not monotonous.


>I just think he's not in Lamar's weight class lyrically or >conceptually...

Lyrically? No I don't think Drake all out could see Kendrick going all out.

Conceptually? I think Kendrick /could/ definitely out do Drake, his is definitely more grand trying to speak on the issues of his city.

He hasn't though, the albums not good enough for me.
He got really close though, very if the LP had been shorter, without the Dr. Dre.

  

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225. "#TYBG"
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>Slow down there, homie...lol

alright I know some of yall aren't as swift as you once were

>I was there for Illmatic...And if you think I'm simply saying it's on >Illmatic's level, my whole point went over your head...

GKMC will not mean more to a serious music listener in 2012 than Illmatic will in 2012.

>Let me put this in bold CAPS for you...

>IT MAY JUST BE THE MOST IMPORTANT DEBUT SINCE 1994's ILLMATIC...To >me, it lives up to the same mountainous hype that Nas had to with his >debut...It also means a lot to the West Coast much in the same way >that Nas' debut meant to the NYC...And easily the best West Coast >album in more than a decade....

Mountainous hype around Illmatic?
Oh the mountainous hype that permeated more than 10 miles outside of college campuses?
Yeah Kendrick doesn't have that lmao.

I won't debate that it's the best west coast LP in a decade, but that doesn't mean much since it's you know..... the west coast lulz.


>I understand that a lot of younger heads are really on that >Ipod/Ipad, let-me-get-through-this-shit-fast mindset...

L0l you have a skewed perception of me, check my avy.
My favorite albums ever are Selected Ambient Works 85-92, You Made Me Realize EP, Illmatic, Hex, What's Going On, Kid A, and OK Computer

Banging in the whip is not a prerequisite for good music for me lmao.
Keeping my attention, evoking emotion, creating atmospher, and impressing me with tech. skill are though.


>The trouble with some heads TODAY is they don't know how to listen to >albums...Everything has to be a banger...Every song has to be >tailored for this or that...Hell, if every song doesn't bang in the >ride, it's useless....Right?

No not everything needs to be a "banger", it certainly helps though.
No every song doesn't have to bang in the whip, the last album I played in my car was Demon Days by the Gorillaz, it does not "bang" in any sense of the word lmao.

>And that's not their fault because the art of creating an album is >all but dead...What a lot of artists are listening to today are >compilations of songs...

No the art of creating an album is not dead in Hip-Hop,
Drake makes great albums,
Kid CuDi has a couple of great album also.
Kanye West makes great albums,
Nas still makes great albums.
Rick Ross has made a few damn good albums,
Tyler the Creator's Bastard was a good album,
P.O.S.'s Never Better? incredible album.


>To me, out of all the new jacks out right now, this Lamar kid has >made a real album in the truest sense of how they were made from the >late '80s to the 98-99....

Yes, to you, that's fine.



>
>Then homie up above comparing Sing About Me/ I'm Dying of
>Thirst
>
>to 13th Floor???
>
>Blasphemy and I was still sucking my mom's teet when ATLiens
>came out.
>
>Yall are a little TOO gassed off of this.
>
>It's a good feeling though when you've been fully homogenized
>into hype so I'll let you guys, you guys being older heads who
>are jaded/uninterested in contemporary Hip-Hop, bask in this
>little bit of solace you've found.

>Listen...you have already outed yourself here...You think Drake's >latest joint is his best album...

It is his best album, it's an incredible album.

>So I'm a bit leery with what you think, but at the same time I >respect your point of view because after all it's your opinion...

I respect yours as well.

>But here's the deal...Read through the entire piece...Then come back >to me with a more level-headed argument/debate/opinion...

I respect you enough to be honest and tell you straight up I'm not reading it, only b/c it's complex and I don't feel like clicking.

>You also said you don't care if the album was substantive...

I don't, I have enough substantive hip-hop. Activist rap is not fun, and the whole "let me take you into the life of someone from my city" type album can only be done so many times ->see Illmatic/GKMC/Undun.

>Guess what?

what?

>I do....And that substance was a huge part of Illmatic...To me, this >is the first new generation hip-hop album that gives ME that vibe...

Illmatic's greatness... I'm not even gonna bother.


>I take music seriously...And I take music critique >seriously...Sometimes it's up to the OLDER HEADS to throw out a >little history and give things perspective...

Put what into perspective?

>Because if the people who were actually there can't do it, who will???

Again I ask what is "it"? What are you trying to put into perspective?

  

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228. "RE: #TYBG"
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>Again I ask what is "it"? What are you trying to put into
>perspective?


My perspective? Doing what I love...And doing what I'm paid to do...

The cool thing when I was coming up was reading journalists and critics who were there for say when James Brown, Stevie, Bowie or P-Funk was in their prime...

And the best part of reading their work? They usually tied together that era with what was happening in the 80s or early 90's...

They could connect the work of say JB with Prince...or they helped you understand that Nirvana was giving a nod to the sound of the Pixies...

So, again...I try to do the same thing...And I hope there are some heads who may not have been old enough to remember when Illmatic was released (the irony is, it wasn't even a commercial hit when it dropped...It took almost 3 years for it to go gold...If it came out today it would be considered a bomb...)

That's what the piece was meant to do...This piece does NOT equate cultural impact to Illmatic...I even say that in the piece...

I'm talking about the feel of the album and what I feel it means to the current landscape of hip-hop...

If you disagree with that, that's all good...

But saying something I never said is moot...

Good debate though...

Peace...

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231. "let us..."
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have it man. Let us be a little too happy for the younger cats when something like this album drops and 'delivers'. Let us be hopeful that this (or any) good album becomes the type of album that everyone listens to repeatedly. All the time. For years. And years later.

And yes...after two heavy as hell listens, I think Kendrick has put together something that could be 'that album'. It takes advantage of hiphop's history, caters to lots of recent things that are still happening, and adds something to it.

More than that, the album sounds...ummm...regional. Like...a kid from the west who can see the world still made a west coast album that wasn't just west coast because of a few Zapp claps or a random Snoop verse. I love that. I miss THAT feeling before the world got small and everyone lines up to sound like whatever part of the country is selling the most at the time (ahem...Houston and Atlanta).

And I am a pretty big Drake fan (Houston), and it isn't a 'I like Kendrick because he's not this or that guy' thing...

My biggest problem with music now and for at least the last decade isn't the music! It is that the average cat doesn't actually listen to music at a decent level. In other words, cats skim shit if they listen at all. They get a whiff of it, but they don't roll all up on it and in and give it a full and fair amount of time and attention most of the time. Everybody is too cool, smart, busy, lazy or ready to hear the next and newest mixtape for that.

And yes...too many albums and artists fuck over the listener with half-assedness so folks have that excuse. Newsflash: EVERY era has bad and underachieving music. But I remember during the late cassette days/early CD days where if you had some jamming shit, cats would eventually listen to the better stuff more often and for longer. And now, I feel like the better stuff still gets moved on from too fast.

So...in a world where more music is more available and abundant than ever, it is too easy to 'miss out' on good new stuff because everyone has 1 TB hard drives, clouds, digital radio stations, easy access to older stuff and old folks hollering out that the older stuff was better, etc. And there's the ever-growing counterculture way of thinking where every punk ass muthafucker seems to want to be the first one to holler out that they don't like something.

As an older cat I can report that nostalgia is awesome. Throughout my life, I have seen it happen to everyone between folks my parents' age down to cats my age (mid-30s). It is a combination of hindsight, exaggeration, and sad appreciation. The sadness is a result of the realization that the time is in the past and has passed, they didn't maximize, and they can't go back and do it over. So...the realest 'old heads' (like me) just hope that younger cats can have an understanding of nostalgia DURING the time where good to great music is being made and released so they can get the most out of it while it is still happening instead of looking back, appreciating things more fully, and wishing you could be back in that time to do it bigger and better (like us old niggas)...

IE: Goodie MOB and Outkast were performing on LSU's campus in 96/97. Walking distance from my dorm! I was kinda bogged down with trying to study, getting accustomed to college in general, not being in Houston, and being away from my whole life. I didn't go to that shit. I forever feel like a jackass for that looking back on it now. For one thing, 3000 doesn't perform live anymore. Besides that, Kast is pretty much my favorite group ever now. I have Tupac and BIG 'didn't go to the show and then they died' stories too.

And don't even start me on few slices of pie that I left on the table when it was practically laid out on the plate with a fork and some milk with my name written in the crust...don't do it! Don't end up like me and the other old negros! Take that pie! Enjoy these good ass songs! Appreciate these dope artists! Go to their shows when they come to your town! Turn that shit up in the car, on your earphones, in your room, at your spot! Make your boys listen to it too! Listen to it again! Now!

Jimaveli

>yall older niggas, are hyping this more than us younger
>people are lmao and it's funny to me.
>
>B/c Kendrick's definitely a big deal on campus/es, but nobody
>think's he the messiah lmao.
>
>Comparing this to Illmatic isn't even cool yo.
>
>Then homie up above comparing Sing About Me/ I'm Dying of
>Thirst
>
>to 13th Floor???
>
>Blasphemy and I was still sucking my mom's teet when ATLiens
>came out.
>
>Yall are a little TOO gassed off of this.
>
>It's a good feeling though when you've been fully homogenized
>into hype so I'll let you guys, you guys being older heads who
>are jaded/uninterested in contemporary Hip-Hop, bask in this
>little bit of solace you've found.

  

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233. "RE: let us..."
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Preach.....




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235. "Say word nm"
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__________________________________________________________________________
WORLD STAR IN THIS BITCH!!!! WORLD STAR IN THIS BITCH!!!!

  

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239. "i love your posts man, especially this one."
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I really feel this shit my man. As a kid growing up gazing at the culture through a laptop screen being raised in bumfuck nowhere, but sucking up any info I could for years, and getting a chance in the last couple to finally see the shows that are important to me I get amped on everything. So when I see an album like this come out, one that could permeate through every cross section of friends and acquaintances (which span from USA to Israel and some countries in between), I get excited. Excited at the idea that this is a moment that I'm going to pine for, and I feel it every second.

I think back of albums that meant a lot to me in high school, like Kanye's Graduation, that after releasing where in every single car, and played at every party. This album sweeping over, and just being undeniable makes me happier than most things could, I love this culture. I love that changes in one sphere and the moves made my own artist change the entire system forever and everyone has a real reaction to it (music starts sounding different, people's expectations and listening ears change).

This has the potential to be a cultural album, and damn it feels great.

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I felt you on that one.

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246. "Nah"
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What's funny is you young cats(or YOU) trying to school older cats on what's what on some 90's shit,when you don't have basic knowledge of that shit.

Always trying to be right and shit. Thinking you're a hip hop expert off of studying wikipedia and youtubing a few videos. SIT DOWN.

  

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250. "trying to school murph on what exactly?"
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can you clarify?

Please do, point me to where I tried to teach Murph something about older Hip-Hop?

I'll wait.

lol @ you always coming at me sideways nigga.

  

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257. "talking about Illmatic and ATLiens"
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and you even admitted you're way too young to remember when those were out.

So why do you feel the need to tell older cats, who remember all these albums dropping, how they should feel about this Kendrick album in comparision?

We got a better feel for the context of all this shit.

  

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260. "GOTCHA! "
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you fool he's telling me that my generation will feel

x way about GKMC

I'm telling him that no,
for one who is he to dictate what WE will feel about anything?

lmao the audactiy

and

two, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who's heavy into Hip-Hop in my age range, key caveat here "heavy into Hip-Hop", who'd be foolish enough to say that GKMC is seeing ATLiens.

Casual younger Hip-Hop listeners sure, they might say GKMC is better than ATLiens or Illmatic or w/e 90's equivalent you might name, but what do they know?

  

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263. ""fool"? Not me, YOU THOUGHT PE WAS A WEST COAST GROUP!"
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SIT YOUR ASS DOWN!! For real. Talk less, listen more, and definitely don't take that know it all route because you clearly don't.

Who are you to dictate what a generation will or should feel? Yours or the older ones? All you got is YOUR opinion, and much less perspective than the cat who wrote that, but you got all geeked up to talk your shit anyway.

  

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268. "Oh the irony"
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>Who are you to dictate what a generation will or should feel? Yours or >the older ones? All you got is YOUR opinion, and much less perspective >than the cat who wrote that, but you got all geeked up to talk your >shit anyway.

Anyone with half a brain will see the glaring irony in this whole exchange. I think me pointing it directly out will devalue it.

  

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248. "Good read, fam."
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I don't think it's the most important debut since Illmatic; I'll give that crown to College Dropout. But good read nonetheless.

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262. "RE: Good read, fam."
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>I don't think it's the most important debut since Illmatic;
>I'll give that crown to College Dropout. But good read
>nonetheless.


Thanks homie....

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420. "didn't we say this when goblin/the cool came out?"
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i get the hyperbole
he's more common than nas the more i listen to it
it has a more "one day it'll make sense" vibe

  

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478. "When Doggystyle came out, that shit was ridiculous "
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Maybe it was because I was in Long Beach, but I thought it was pretty damn big across the nation.

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188. "I hear definite influences of others, but Im not mad"
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Sherane, Bitch Dont Kill My Vibe, Art Of Peer Pressure and Money Trees are Outkast influenced

and the first half of m.A.A.d City is definitely "Mercy" inspired, but it's still greatness

  

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190. "he clearly is inspired by Andre 3000 a this could have been a "
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DF album seriously ...

https://twitter.com/onnextlevel

  

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204. "yea this is 2012 outkast..the hooks, voice effects, the skits"
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the pop sensibility, the beats that bang, the rhyming and weirdness with street cred...he like outkast rolled into 1...I wonder which way he going to go lol

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207. "IMO he's been W.E.I.R.D. for a minute"
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not any Big Boi in his gameplan, even when he plays it fairly straight like Backseat Freestyle he's using three different voices and screaming "BEEEEITCH" like Too $hort in a UFO


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253. "well big boi is Weird 2 but Andre was so weird too it made him"
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look tame and normal by comparison.

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269. "^^^^"
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One of the more underrated elements of what makes OutKast interesting.

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483. "RE: well big boi is Weird 2 but Andre was so weird too it made him"
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That's so true. He was really able to let his eccentric side shine on Sir Luscious Left Foot- you can hear it clearly.

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324. "yes"
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199. "I wonder what happened to The Heart pt. 3"
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That was supposed to be on here.

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265. "Possibly coming soon?"
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https://twitter.com/kendricklamar/status/259618478313578496

"Yes I see all the nummmberrs... I still root for the dreeeamerrs... I thank God for the dreeeamerrs..." - Mos

  

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275. "yup"
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http://soundcloud.com/topdawgent/kendrick-lamar-the-heart-pt-3

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but keep doin your thang

  

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282. "thank ya'll"
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nm

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276. "HE JUST DROPPED IT"
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http://potholesinmyblog.com/kendrick-lamar-the-heart-pt-3-will-you-let-it-die-f-ab-soul-jay-rock/

  

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208. "it took 3 listens"
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but Good Kid got my money come tuesday. section 80 puts me to sleep, and this album didn't really hit me, but after a few listens i find myself really digging it. that boy kendrick can rap, man.

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232. "All I gotta say is ..."
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... History repeats itself. This may usher in the beginning of the new era of actually making an album. Additionally this kids life is about to change forever come October 22nd. As others have said, he got my $ come Tuesday. Glad I caught him in a small venue before the album dropped.

  

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242. "This didn't need a deluxe edition"
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There's something to be said for ending with Compton, a song I don't love but it works quite well when you look at this as a whole album.

  

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245. "black boy fly is the best song though."
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either way i think i'd put this album up against anything post-mbdtf.

bitch dont kill my vibe is an absolutely perfect song.

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455. "this album is already better than mbtdf imo"
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but that just me, i wasn't feeling that as much as it seemed the rest of the world was

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247. "Well I think it's pretty substantial"
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That the bonus tracks are literally on a separate disc. If the CD is on repeat, it'll just start back at the beginning after Compton.

Plus, I think it still works with the story line because the songs after Compton are just him continuing in the rap career after the story ends.

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252. "Didn't realize it's a double disc"
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Glad for that actually.

  

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256. "i did some splitting"
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separated the intro portion from art of peer pressure
broke up maad city into part 1 & 2
and of course split sing about me / dying of thirst

holler if you want em

  

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258. "still haven't listened waiting til Tuesday"
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this post has me hyped though.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.â€

  

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261. "i think i've played maad city about 50 times since thursday"
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this album is incredible

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264. "this shit is jammin' like a mufucka!"
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GKMC is really REALLY good. It's cohesive, accessible and it doesn't pander. Some tracks are kinda lengthy but I'm glad he kept the features to a minimum.

"B*tch, Don't Kill My Vibe" is the jam and the Janet Jackson sample on the "Poetic Justice" joint with Drake is incredible. Love Scoop DeVille for that.

Really glad Jay Rock made it on the album. I would've loved to hear BJ The Chicago Kid on one of these hooks though.

The beat on "Backstreet Freestyle" is probably the only slight mistep. It doesn't sound like a beat I'd expect to hear Kendrick on but I let it rock.

Replace "Backseat Freestyle" with "Westside, Right On Time" with Young Jeezy and I'm a happy camper.

Album is easily top 10 for 2012 right now.

I didn't skip anything on the first spin either.......ya bische (ya bische)


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274. "backseat freestyle isn't my favorite beat"
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but i think it fits for the storyline of his boys coming through with a beat cd to rhyme over

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but keep doin your thang

  

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266. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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I heard that he is pretty good.

  

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270. "just listened to it for the first time...i'm kinda confused...and that's..."
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good sign...most excellent albums leave me speechless at first..lol..need to give it a few more spins

  

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272. "The samples, if anyone's interested:"
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The samples, if anyone's interested:

http://recordinglivefromsomewhere.com/2012/10/20/kendrick-lamars-good-kid-m-a-a-d-city-samples-beach-house-silver-soul-janet-jackson-anytime-anyplace/

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297. "cool but what sample or who is singing at the end of Sing about me?"
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when he goes "Promise that you sing about me now Brother"

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340. "RE: cool but what sample or who is singing at the end of Sing about me?"
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I really don't know, wish I did.

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364. "yeah I was trying to figure that out too."
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anyone got the info?

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387. "its the dude JMSN singing "
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http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


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407. "sounds like a 90s r&b song"
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I was kinda hoping it was...

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277. "SO WHERE YALL PUTTING Cartoon & Cereal"
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it's obvious it was suppose to be on the album and didn't make it cause of sample clearances

i'm thinking @ the beginning of the album or right before "Real"

  

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287. "on a made up EP with the bonus tracks + the Jeezy track"
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since the bonus tracks are coming on another disc anyway, and I don't plan on buying the deluxe or iTunes versions. I'll just use the deluxe art for the EP and the regular art for the album.


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290. "its on the unreleased vol. 1 bootleg"
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ill just keep it there i guess
but it don't feel right

  

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296. "I put mine at the beginning"
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so you can see how he "grew up" a little before you get in the story..then if you put the "momma I'll be back in 15 minutes at the end of cartoon and ceral...the story starts lol.

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278. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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I didn't like it at ALL. The only song I fuck with is The Recipe and that's not even on the album proper, but a bonus track. But to be fair, I don't really care for West Coast Rap. For those that do, it does seem like a return to form for that genre. I can already tell it'll get high praise. Pitchfork will probably give a 9. For me, I'll just have to wait for Chief Keef's album next month for something to bump in the whip

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279. "you really get hard dick telling us you like Chief Keef dont you"
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284. "RE: you really get hard dick telling us you like Chief Keef dont you"
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Viagra

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280. "You know damn well this isn't for *your* demographic, buddy."
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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283. "RE: You know damn well this isn't for *your* demographic, buddy."
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I liked "Rigamortis." Dude can obviously rap, but I just wasn't feeling that laid back production on GKMC

"Capitalism will never fail because socialism will always be there to bail it out." - Ralph Nader

  

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281. "That goooooooooooooood hate!"
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Luckily for the rest of us this is about more than "bumpin in the whip". This album hits the speakers hard as fuck too though. I didn;t get nearly as bored with this album as I usually do with some of the other shit thats been comin out from these up and comers. So far Kendrick and KRIT are really stading out to me.

  

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285. "RE: That goooooooooooooood hate!"
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>Luckily for the rest of us this is about more than "bumpin in
>the whip".

So... what? You think this nigga is on some profound shit? LOL. If that's the case then he really IS the reincarnation of 2pac, except more pretentious

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291. "You and Romney...."
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Can ride out to whatever bullshit you're listenin to together when he loses. Obama will be smoking one to "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe"

  

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289. "my weedman just came in on "bitch don't kill my vibe""
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heard 15 seconds and was hooked

  

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292. "RE: my weedman just came in on "bitch don't kill my vibe""
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that's my early shit....

  

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293. "Best rap album of 2012, and it ain't even close"
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Best rap album of the decade thus far.

Shit, best rap album since "Graduation".

I already thought Kendrick was the best rapper doing it right now before hand, and all this did was solidify that opinion. With O/D, s80, and now this album, he's staked his claim as one of the greats. Seems far fetched? Name me three hip hop artists who have put out three projects that strong back to back to back like this in the last, oh, 15 years? Can you come up with more than a couple, cuz I sure can't, and that says it all.

And TDE really has proven themselves to be the absolute best rap label in the game. What a 2012 they're having. First it was a strong triple (Schoolboy Q's), then a standing double (Ab Soul) and now a Jose Canseco in the upper deck of SkyDome, Barry Bonds in McCovey Cove level home run.

I'm sure all this probably seems like insane hyperbole, and perhaps I would be able to go into more detail song-by-song and such (cuz as great as I think it is, there are definitely songs I prefer most, "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe" being the best, IMO). However, after listening to this album nonstop for the last 4 or so days, I can't say how much I fuck with it.

Oh, and "Cartoons & Cereal" is still the best rap song of the year so far.

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295. "RE: Best rap album of 2012, and it ain't even close"
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Agreed

  

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299. "Its an album with such grand ambition, that it achieves it is incredible"
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303. "killer mike R.A.P. Music is shittin on this"
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Untitled > whole gkmc
Q is the best guy on tde

  

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306. "RE: killer mike R.A.P. Music is shittin on this"
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>Untitled > whole gkmc
>Q is the best guy on tde


lol....

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464. "Why do you think this is so funny Murph"
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Where do you rank Killer Mike's R.A.P album? Are the songs and themes not strong? Is Schoolboy Q that weak?

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505. "he's being pretentious falling into the same 'hiphop savior'"
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narrative all the other journalists feel into because of the dr. dre/gaga/iovine co-sign

its a good album, maybe even great, but it being 'the most important release' hyperbole is marketing at its finest
how can you not call killer's album important especially this being an election year
what about the marriage of underground journey man el-p making a southern album with a 2nd tier dungeon family alumni, which is the closest thing to outkast imo
the same thing they said about tyler last year is what their saying about k dot this year
wasn't 'the cool' & 'man on the moon' similiar introspective-downbeat-young black man perspectives?

  

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545. "RE: Why do you think this is so funny Murph"
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>Where do you rank Killer Mike's R.A.P album? Are the songs
>and themes not strong? Is Schoolboy Q that weak?


Killer Mike is that dude....But I think Lamar made the more consistently enjoyable album...That said, Mike dropped one of the best joints of the year....

Schoolboy Q is more swag than talent...He's not in his boy's league...

Two different discussions here....

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310. "lawl"
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311. "YEA Rap music is def seeing this"
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I don't agree with the rest tho lol.

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342. "I really like the Killer Mike album a lot, but again, it ain't even clos..."
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354. "this shit kinda boring"
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needed more dre/khalil/mr. porter or the 'real' aftermath producers
nowhere near as great as the game's documentary
don't get me wrong its good.
but folks are oding

  

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305. "aight this is about 5 much."
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>Best rap album of the decade thus far.
>
>Shit, best rap album since "Graduation".
>
>I already thought Kendrick was the best rapper doing it right
>now before hand, and all this did was solidify that opinion.
>With O/D, s80, and now this album, he's staked his claim as
>one of the greats. Seems far fetched? Name me three hip hop
>artists who have put out three projects that strong back to
>back to back like this in the last, oh, 15 years? Can you come
>up with more than a couple, cuz I sure can't, and that says it
>all.

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352. "i still prefer Ka - Grief Pedigree, but this IS good."
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531. "RE: Best rap album of 2012, and it ain't even close"
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I don't think I've posted in a year or two but good Lord, this album brought me out from lurker status.

The whole thing vibes so well from start to finish. I had forgotten what it felt like to zone out to an album.

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294. "Buying 2 copies"
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This is the best shit ive heard in a long motherfucking time!

I am 3\33 so the new shit usually doesnt hit me like this does.

  

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298. "okay now that i've listened to it more than once i can say this is a"
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4.25/5 easily..compared to section 80 theres less filler but these 6 minutes+ tracks need to go...

the high points are are high as fuck tho...i'll probably sing "bitch don't kill my vibe" for a whole month i think

"good kid" is really dope but you can't tell it's a NERD leftover...and dj dahi gonna be a star man..

overall it's a great listen...can't believe k-dot has come this far...it seems like yesterday when i was bumping his "training day" mixtape and NOBODY gave a fuck about him..

  

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300. "Wiz is still looked at as #1 to the youngins..."
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That's the saddest part about all this...


hahaha... I'm not joking though...

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301. "We'll see what their first week #s look like"
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302. "youngin as in like 11-14?"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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313. "youngins like junior high to a couple years out of highschool..."
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At least the ones I've talked to... I ask my friends younger brothers because I really wonder what the kids think of these artists... Every kid (21 and younger) I've talked to says that Wiz is looked at as the best (or he's most popular)... I was pretty shocked...

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317. "wow. wiz is aight but naw."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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304. "Among extremely casual top 40 fans maybe"
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nm

  

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308. "BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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I'm a Wiz fan, but he'll never in his life touch this album because that nigga says the same shit to different beats. I'm sorry but if he don't deliver with the lyrics on Only Nigga In a Fur Coat he will be forever reduced to white bitch party music a la lil wayne.

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314. "Like I said: MOST of Kend Lam's buzz is from older music heads/nerds"
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Old rap heads who hate Wiz, Drake and Lupe (for various
reasons) use Kendrick Lamar as their "this is what young
rappers should be like" example

Young kids ain't checking for this the way we think
they are

Its the older crowd that is REALLY feeding his buzz

His buzz overlaps significantly with Jay Elec's buzz,
and Jay Elec was 100% older, bitter hip hop heads



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315. "RE: Like I said: MOST of Kend Lam's buzz is from older music heads/nerds"
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>
>
>Old rap heads who hate Wiz, Drake and Lupe (for various
>reasons) use Kendrick Lamar as their "this is what young
>rappers should be like" example
>
>Young kids ain't checking for this the way we think
>they are
>
>Its the older crowd that is REALLY feeding his buzz
>
>His buzz overlaps significantly with Jay Elec's buzz,
>and Jay Elec was 100% older, bitter hip hop heads



Nah..My Godson (he's 16) and his friends dig Kendrick, ASAP and J. Cole...

They don't like Wiz...All that matters is if you like it...

If not, cool....Free country....

This has nothing to do with Old heads...Or any of those theories...

Don't think too hard about it...Good music is good music...



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316. "You're confusing Joey Badass with Kendrick Lamar"
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409. "RE: You're confusing Joey Badass with Kendrick Lamar"
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good one

  

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332. "^^^too old to attend concerts."
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I want you to actually go to a KL show, then repeat what you just said.

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363. "My wife got us tickets for the show in Charlotte..."
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We were the oldest people in the building... probably 800 deep.

  

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367. "yeah, crowd was young at the LA show last week as well"
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first metal-detector I've walked through heading into a show in ages.

It also helps that Kendrick seems to be keeping ticket prices at around $25-30 so younger folks can actually see him.

  

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379. "Irony. A bunch of oldies keep talking about how young the crowds are. "
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I sort of rest my case.

Notice no young people in here making this
case

His fanbase is young and old

but his *buzz* is generated by old people like y'all

  

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381. "RE: Irony. A bunch of oldies keep talking about how young the crowds are..."
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>
>I sort of rest my case.
>
>Notice no young people in here making this
>case
>
>His fanbase is young and old
>
>but his *buzz* is generated by old people like y'all

Come on, dog...

U Mitt Romney-ing right now...

There are plenty of young heads in this thread dapping up this album...It's one thing for you to say YOU don't like it...I dig that..

But don't hide behind something that's not even true...

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382. "Umm this discussion has nothing to do with the album"
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Its not about how good or bad the album is.

But KL's buzz has been created by older people

Wiz and Drake's buzz was created by a crowd far
younger on average

Not even close


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383. "RE: Umm this discussion has nothing to do with the album"
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>
>Its not about how good or bad the album is.
>
>But KL's buzz has been created by older people



And I'm calling bullshit...Step outside away from OKP, homie...There is a world outside this site...

I got put on to Lamar by a 16 year old kid...Young people could care less than a fuck what WE think...lol...The folks I saw at a Kendrick show are the same heads that was at a ASAP show...Young kids who like the music...


>Wiz and Drake's buzz was created by a crowd far
>younger on average

Again, where do you come up with this shit? Lamar's "buzz" has been happening for about two years now...And hardly no one that was in my age range even knew who he was...lol...Hell, Lamar went out on tour with Drake...When I got put on to dude two years ago...I too thought he was an R&B singer...My godson laughed at me...


>Not even close


Say you don't like him as an artist...Or say you don't like the album...It's okay...really...No one will really care...

But stop falling back on this bullshit..lol...

U the homie and all...But this is not a good look...Just give your opinion, stand on it and keep it moving.....

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391. "Seriously...read how sensitive you are this. This is funny. "
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>And I'm calling bullshit...Step outside away from OKP,
>homie...There is a world outside this site...
>
>I got put on to Lamar by a 16 year old kid...Young people
>could care less than a fuck what WE think...lol...The folks I
>saw at a Kendrick show are the same heads that was at a ASAP
>show...Young kids who like the music...

Again:

Another old person talking about how young the kids were
at the KL show

Here's a little hint for you:

Hip-hop shows are overwhelmingly young in general.

Last roots show I saw was about 50% kids who were barely
born (it at all) when Organix came out


>Say you don't like him as an artist...Or say you don't like
>the album...It's okay...really...No one will really care...


LOL


See what I mean?

Look how much of a sissy you are

I liked the album

I like the artist

I'm just talking about his buzz


>But stop falling back on this bullshit..lol...
>
>U the homie and all...But this is not a good look...Just give
>your opinion, stand on it and keep it moving.....


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385. "So went to a board where the average age is at least 25..."
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saw people discussing Kendrick and decided he skewed older. Like I said, your trolling is powerfully under-developed lately. Step it up.

  

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390. "Look how sensitive y'all are. This is adorable. "
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I mean, i didn't even say anything *bad* about KL

I just said his buzz is mostly generated by old
people, which is definitely true

it proves my point

you guys are so protective of him...its kind of silly
at this point

Just like you guys come up with reasons to hate Drake
and Lupe....which is also silly


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408. "This can't be the best you can do"
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Going back to the Lupe/Drake crutch? Try harder.

  

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427. "Y'all getting mad at a point that has nothing to do with music"
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>Going back to the Lupe/Drake crutch? Try harder.

The album is a masterpiece

Nothing else to say there

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446. "^^^^Old Hipster"
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I suspect you write all your posts while eating in an overpriced pho restaurant. Glad you like the album though. If I ever see some dude with an ironic moustache mouthing the words to "Poetic Justice while zipping down Silver Lake Blvd on a fixed gear bike, I'll think of you.

  

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384. "RE: Irony. A bunch of oldies keep talking about how young the crowds are..."
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>
>I sort of rest my case.
>
>Notice no young people in here making this
>case
>
>His fanbase is young and old
>
>but his *buzz* is generated by old people like y'all

uh, this is OKP, this site is overwhelmingly old by hip-hop standards & increasingly more so with each passing year so I don't anticipate this being a place to measure 'buzz' amongst young people.

I'm surprised any new/young folks show up here at all, it was music that brought me here when I was still in college at the start in this site's early days but how many 18-22 year-olds are joining here in 2012 because they heard 'undun' or *insert some other work by old OKArtist here*?

  

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392. "Nah, but all hip-hop shows skew young. "
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All of them. Like I said, I went a Roots show not that
long ago and there were tons of youngins in there

Generally speaking older people don't hit shows like
that, regardless of the artist

I saw Nas in 2010 and half the crowd was college fratgirls
with miniskirts, for god sakes

So to keep pointing out the crowds is dumb

And its ironic how all the old people keep making
the same observation



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399. "RE: Nah, but all hip-hop shows skew young. "
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Let it go, homie....lol

For real...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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404. "RE: Nah, but all hip-hop shows skew young. "
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>
>All of them. Like I said, I went a Roots show not that
>long ago and there were tons of youngins in there
>
>Generally speaking older people don't hit shows like
>that, regardless of the artist
>
>I saw Nas in 2010 and half the crowd was college fratgirls
>with miniskirts, for god sakes
>
I've seen The Roots probably 4/5 times in the past couple years & you saw that same Distant Relatives tour I did, those crowds looked so different they're not even comparable in terms of age demo.

>So to keep pointing out the crowds is dumb
>
>And its ironic how all the old people keep making
>the same observation
>
I wasn't 'keeping pointing out the crowd' I simply agreed with dude's observation about Kendrick's crowd based on my own anecdotal evidence from the show last week & other TDE shows I've attended out here.

It skews younger & not in the 'Drake'/'Wiz Khalifa'/'Odd Future' 16-year-old way because these are club shows, more like folks around his own age (21-24) than audiences for the two acts you mentioned which is more like a 30-35 crowd nowadays.

Check it out because his show is worth seeing (he can actually pull off these flow switch-ups seemingly fairly effortlessly on stage & it's well-paced/put-together overall) and then get back to me about the difference.

  

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nigga working overtime to find an angle... lol.

  

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nm

  

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312. "So is that Lady Ga Gah on Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe??"
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sounds like it could be her...

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318. "popmatters sneak preview"
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Rating: 9/10



good kid, m.A.A.d city (Produced by Scoop DeVille unless noted)

1|Sherane a.k.a Master Splinter's Daughter|4:33 (Produced by tha Bizness) 4 - 4.5
2|Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe|5:10 (Produced by Sounwave) 4.75 - 5
3|Backseat Freestyle|3:32 (Produced by Hit-Boy) 4.75 - 5
4|The Art of Peer Pressure|5:24 (Produced by Tabu) 4 - 4.25
5|Money Trees (feat. Jay Rock)|6:26 (Produced by DJ Dahi) 4 - 4.25
6|Poetic Justice (feat. Drake)|5:00 4 - 4.25
7|good kid|3:34 (Produced by Pharrell) 4
8|m.A.A.d city (feat. MC Eiht)|5:50 (Produced by Sounwave, THC & Terrace Martin) 4.5 - 5
9|Swimming Pools (Drank) (Extended Version)|5:13 (Produced by T-Minus) 5
10|Sing About Me / I'm Dying of Thirst|12:03 (Produced by Skhye Hutch, Sounwave & Like) 5
11|Real (feat. Anna Wise)|7:23 (Produced by Terrace Martin) 4 - 4.25
12|Compton (feat. Dr. Dre)|4:08 (Produced by Just Blaze) 4 - 4.25

Overall: 53 - 53.75 4.45/5 88 - 90%: Exceptional; repeated listens demanded; BUY IT

Due to its spoken word, rhythm-based nature, hip-hop has been the primary home for musical storytellers ever since Kool G Rap, Chuck D and Rakim posited that MCs were authors and DJs provided the paper. "I start to think / and then I sink / into the paper, like I was ink," Rakim said, and thus the game was changed. Nas arguably perfected this idea, cutting a 9-song album in 1994 with five different producers that came across as intensely singular, as though the MC's will and vision could enact marshall law on disparate sonics and attitudes, coalescing a fractured state of mind into one that represented a particular time and place. At the same time, Prince Paul was offering the opposite hyopthesis: give a genius three imaginative MCs (or, in the further along case of A Prince Among Thieves, nineteen guys playing minutely specific roles) and he'll spin you a yarn that builds from a beginning to an end. 1991's De la Soul Is Dead presented a story within a story, as a trio of crackheads listened to an album about life on Long Island and criticized it at every turn, metaphorically representing the group's opinion of the media's influence on the hardcore direction hip-hop was taking.

Other MCs, most notably Masta Ace's early-2000s work on M4 Records, have expanded on Prince Paul's formulas by creating albums that play as audio books, but besides Ace and Doseone's Subtle project few MCs have seen hip-hop's narrative tendencies as an opportunity to weave explicitly connected music, where albums act as acknowledged sequels and the duty of the fan is to piece together the artist's 1,000 piece puzzle. Lupe Fiasco, perhaps this generation's most revered and pored-over by message boards rapper, infamously shied away from straightforwardness by splashing the story of Michael Young across multiple albums and mixtapes, daring audiences to find where the storyline begins and ends. Kendrick Lamar appeals to both formulas, as good kid, m.A.A.d. city alludes to previous works (primarily Section.80's "Keisha's Song" and "Poe Man's Dreams") without needing them and follows a very specific structure with a beginning, middle and end as implied by the cover art's subtitle "A Short Film by Kendrick Lamar".

And what an incredible weave it is. Due to its lack of abstracted notes ala Kanye West's My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy I'll save most of the notes for those smart enough to seek this album out, but in general terms the album begins with a betrayal, and then doubles back to the beginning of the relationship to detail Kendrick Lamar's life as an "Average Joe" (Overly Dedicated mixtape) in the buildup to his escaping the hood via record deal. With a little digging, good kid reveals itself to be a remarkably personal release for Lamar, with stories like his accidental smoking of a cocaine-laced blunt and the death of his Uncle Tony lending not only narrative heft but a very real gravitas to Lamar's presence. Generally, this would be enough for a hip-hop album: we love to believe Ghostface Killah is a dangerous man with a soft spot for women because his details overcome the usual tropes of hardcore corner store MCs, or that Drake is a be-cardigan'd playboy who can't stop thinking about his high school girlfriends because his word choice delineates the progress from one to the other so cleanly. But again, Lamar concentrates the ideas of hip-hop narrative and nonfiction into such a form that's shocking for how simultaneously accessible yet full of depth it is.

Nowhere is this more interesting than the album's lead single, "Swimming Pools (Drank)", produced in the typical manner of "I'm on One" / "She Will" producer T-Minus. Where both of those tracks were explicitly about affluent escapees of the hood mentality throwing money at strippers and drugs, so too does "Swimming Pools" feel on its surface like an anthem for late night stumbling. "Fill a swimming pool full of liquor then you dive in it," Lamar instructs mainstream hip-hop's favorite subject, uninhibited and unnamed women. But even in its disembodied form the song felt acutely aware of its ability to play with expectations and criticize the very song radio scanners would take it to be; as the track which acts as an axis for the character of Kendrick Lamar to have certain epiphanies about the actions he's taken throughout good kid it becomes even more subversive, a moment of nihilism more accessible than those that came before it (robbery, gang activity, promiscuous sex) that serves as illumination: I am Compton...how real is that? The next three tracks find Lamar enraptured in the realization that he's been all too willing to succumb to his environment, with "Sing About Me" deconstructing the various characters he's come to call friends merely by economic identification and social stratification. Then onward to "Real", where he doubts the lessons he's learned in Compton are true, and "Compton", where he pays dues to the world that made him ready for the world despite all the tragedy he's witnessed.

Providing the sort of semi-autobiographical character arc good kid is would be enough for some, but it's the lush environs surrounding this "short film" that makes good kid not only academic but accessible. "Sherane" and "Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe" open the album amidst the 2012 west coast's vision of OutKast's Aquemini, the former presenting Lamar's vision of an Andre 3000 word barrage storyline and the latter Big Boi's laid back masculinity. "Backseat Freestyle" is a chauvinistic "Racks" creed whipped together by Kanye henchman Hit-Boy couched in the thematic conceit of freestyling in the backseat of his boys' car, imagining a world that doesn't exist. "m.A.A.d. city" revives Compton's Most Wanted leader MC Eiht over a second half beat change from Terrace Martin that feels like Dr. Dre's The Chronic had a love child with Chronic 2001; much as good kid builds on what's come before it as a story, so does this one track show how the west coast's singularity has created a certain kind of linear knowledge that's largely disappeared from the other regions (one might be eager to compare the sonic effect of this album to Nas' nostalgically modern Life Is Good).

It's so easy to praise Kendrick Lamar's proper retail debut (Section.80 was only available through digital outlets) that I'd feel remiss to acknowledge there are reasons it's not perfect. Repetition and excess reigns over moments of this album, as it fills an entire CD at a mere twelve tracks. "Real" is the album's most obvious sufferer, with generally efficient Anna Wise being required to incessantly repeat "I'm real, I'm real, I'm really really real" throughout a seven-and-a-half minute track that very easily could have been closer to five. And much like narrative albums that have come before it, good kid hustles through a setlist that's not nearly as stand-out and introduction-ready as Section.80 (itself a conceptual album, in a less linear sense) was, creating moments during your fourth or fifth listen in a row that feel less engaging than they did before.

But if those minor nitpicks are what it takes to bring an album like this, one that so effortlessly bows to the needs of both mainstream and underground hip-hop heads while simultaneously succeeding at creating the one sort of album hip-hop is both most ready-made for and most intimidated to produce, bring them on.



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319. "halfway through this is crazy"
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320. "one of my favorite albums of the year,"
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for now its right behind killer mike at #2

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321. "Drake actually sounds influenced by Little Brother on here"
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and not his YMCMB cronies.

This cd really is great, one of the best mainstream rap albums since 2000 and it's hard to not see this aging into a classic. Anyone else think 'Ye gonna feel some pressure before his next release? Haven't felt this way since Graduation, this whole project has such a great consistent quality.

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322. "RE: Drake actually sounds influenced by Little Brother on here"
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I don't hear it, but Little Brother was a big influence on him... especially Phonte...

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323. "Don't do drugs..."
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https://twitter.com/therealjuicyj/status/260267173786812416


*5 minutes later*

https://twitter.com/therealjuicyj/status/260268332559769600

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325. "Gimme all ya money ya bish, ya bish"
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>https://twitter.com/therealjuicyj/status/260267173786812416
>
>
>*5 minutes later*
>
>https://twitter.com/therealjuicyj/status/260268332559769600

  

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338. "lol"
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329. "Target didn't even have it on shelves"
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Old ass white dude gonna argue with me and tell me only Taylor Swift came out today. I said do I look like I give a damn about some Taylor Swift. I had to get another employee to look it up and prove his dumb ass wrong. SMH

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333. "Target didn't even have it on shelves<--that's because it comes out 2mrw..."
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334. "Today's the 22nd, they've been saying 22 for a while now"
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"I don't read pages of rap lyrics, I listen to rap music." © Bombastic
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336. "So you went this morning..."
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I copped the vinyl Saturday. My spot had that and the cd since early last week tho.

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344. "Naw no cash for it till next week... College life "
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369. "They clearly didn't send out a memo"
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I went to two Tagrets close to my house. The first one said the special edition wouldn't go on sale until Tuesday. The second one actually had it out.

  

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348. "They told me they didn't have it..."
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My boy checked online and said fuck that, they have it...


Bought it at the next Target we went to... The lady was just stocking them...

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356. "RE: Target didn't even have it on shelves"
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They had it on the shelves around my way..

Both versions.

  

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331. "I'M ON BOARD."
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this shit TOUGH. this is a good ass album. 3000 gotta be sitting back somewhere kicking himself.

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353. "lol, he ain't thinking about this little nigga."
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this album is lupe's "the cool" meets cudi's "man on the moon", but not as pretentious
he looks the part, but i this isn't better than "the documentary" (this is how we do, dreams, hate it or love, runnin, put you on game, etc.)
a lot of folks on here feel like they relate to kendrick as a person and 'want him to win'
i think q is the real star out of tde, but kendrick got the 'street nerd' quality down
emile/plain pat/noah"40" mastered this 'sound' before kendrick
not enough amp/aggressive tracks except backseat freestyle, compton, maad city?

  

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355. "RE: lol, he ain't thinking about this little nigga."
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>this album is lupe's "the cool" meets cudi's "man on the
>moon", but not as pretentious
>he looks the part, but i this isn't better than "the
>documentary" (this is how we do, dreams, hate it or love,
>runnin, put you on game, etc.)
>a lot of folks on here feel like they relate to kendrick as a
>person and 'want him to win'
>i think q is the real star out of tde, but kendrick got the
>'street nerd' quality down
>emile/plain pat/noah"40" mastered this 'sound' before
>kendrick
>not enough amp/aggressive tracks except backseat freestyle,
>compton, maad city?



lol...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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368. "except for the fact that he specifically came to the studio"
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just to hear this shit ahead of time in a very easily accessible video from last week?

Was he thinking about him then?

  

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405. "I know right he won't even appear in videos he on songs with"
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but he let them flim him and release it giving this dude praise.

I don't think he kicking himself tho cause he is obviously happy where he is at but Kendrick is def on his radar.

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569. "sstfd"
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339. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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Copped. Digital, but still.

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343. "He set it off in front of staples center lasnight for free after the lak..."
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when i saw him drop a line on twitter i dropped my shit and sped up the 110. would like to say i witnessed history. Got a "fuck a leak" chant going on our side even tho everyone in the crowd definitely had it. Performed swimming pools twice, ADHD, the recipe, on top of a bus before that shit got shut down. Cops everywhere, ghetto bird on top of us. Crazy atmosphere, felt so Cali. Glad dude is getting his shine on the national level cuz dude is a bonafide SUPERSTAR in LA.

Needless to say, rushed to the target this morning and copped. Kicking myself for not being able to sit through it all in one sitting. can't wait to road trip to it soon.

WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!?! NOOOOBODDDDYY!!!!

  

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366. "RE: He set it off in front of staples center lasnight for free after the..."
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hell yeah. that was some memorable shit. REAL proud of my city.

i really hope he gets those numbers this week man.

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376. "peeps was lined up at compton best buy.."
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like it was their civic duty to copp. All I could do was smile passin by. I pulled my copy from the target while they were stockin em..hopin for the best.

WHO'S GOT IT BETTER THAN US?!?! NOOOOBODDDDYY!!!!

  

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345. "Think About Me/Dying of Thirst stays on repeat"
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very solid to great album...classic by 2012 standards...not necessarily by mine but a very good listen.

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Waldorf and Statler Vol 4:CONAN IS OUT NOW!!!: http://waldorfandstatler.bandcamp.com

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347. "that boom clap bachelors song and sing about me on repeat"
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i slept on the kid hard. i really wasn't feeling the robot voice/ stutter talk whatever the fuck that shit is but i the album is undeniable. it flows really well. it's my favorite rap album of 2012.

  

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349. "Target Special Ed. has Black Hippy Swimming Pools remix"
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FYI

  

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351. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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I voomped on down to Target on my lunch break to cop that deluxe edition.. looks like there's a Black Hippy remix to Swimming Pools.

I still have my pre-order deluxe copy coming in the mail.

This is the 3rd release this year I have bought 2 copies for. I bought R.A.P. Music when I saw it at Rasputin's before my pre-order arrived and gave my extra copy to a broke music loving friend, and I purchased both the physical and the iTunes early releases for Channel Orange.

2012 was and still is a good year.

  

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357. "Saw online that Target had it in stock ...."
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... however my local Mom & Pop said they had the new Gary Clark Jr. jawn out in the stores announced on their FB page. Had breakfast at the diner next door went in and asked for the Gary, I said did something happen that we can get the releases on Monday. She said something about Taylor Swift dropping today so all the majors decided to release their drops a day early as well so I asked for the Kendrick, she said hold on lemme get that for you too, but it was the regular version. Went to target later on and Taylor Swift had a big ass section so I went to the counter and asked for it. Dude looked it up and brought out some copies. Copped the deluxe twice. Glad I caught dude live before he doesn't do small venues. His life is definitely going to change after this week.

  

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358. "The first you hear those gunshots cut the first verse of Sing Abt Me"
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Wow.

Had the desired effect. Chilling

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359. "yea that part got me too"
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365. "Agreed n/m"
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377. "absolutely. messed me up on first listen."
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http://www.flavors.me/vonpea

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http://youtu.be/CqnnIT97J5w

  

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459. "^^^^^"
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361. "Free Kendrick performance + meet&greet @ Rasputin Berkeley Weds"
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Got the deluxe vinyl today @ Rasputin Berkeley. Looking forward to getting this signed. http://www.rasputinmusic.com/?p=7668

  

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370. "If your willing to get me one too ..."
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... I'll paypal you some $. Let me know. I seen him a few weeks ago and they didn't have no physical cds not even for Section 80 for me to get him to sign.

  

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374. "They changed the policy up. Now it's 1 wristband per person..."
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I remember when Nas & Damian came, my friend coped 5 albums and got 5 wristbands.

  

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375. "thx than fam !!!"
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I'll have to catch him on the next one than.

  

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371. "That place is gonna be crazy..."
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I would go, but I doubt I'd even be able to get in line early enough to even get in the spot...

I'm lightweight considering buying a ticket for the ASAP show in Oakland on Wednesday... Damn near guaranteed that Kendrick is gonna show up...

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373. "Wristbands for the event already sold out @ 2 Rasputin locations."
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Earlier today. Probably all sold out by now. Good call on that ASAP show. Totally forgot he's coming.

  

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362. "I need a full version of the Art of Peer Pressure Intro cut!"
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I'm surprised that no one has spoken on that yet!

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423. "RE: I need a full version of the Art of Peer Pressure Intro cut!"
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>I'm surprised that no one has spoken on that yet!


yep...

i mentioned this on another board, but man is that beat too smooth to merely be an intro.

that's on some pete rock ish when he used to drop dope beats for like 30 sec. interludes and mess my head up.

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It Is Better To Be Thought Of As A Fool, Than To Open Your Mouth And Remove All Doubt.

  

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378. "I just realized this dude basically made Drake's 2nd album."
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If you read old interviews while Drake was developing his sophomore effort, he said it was going to be a loose concept album with the theme being a narrative of a weekend of young people in Toronto and the things they get into. And throughout the whole album was going to be a "subplot" with a particular girl.

Of course, Drake's album didn't turn out that way. But Kendrick actually pulled it off (though a little different).

  

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386. "RE: I just realized this dude basically made Drake's 2nd album."
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>Of course, Drake's album didn't turn out that way. But
>Kendrick actually pulled it off (though a little different).

not to mention a Kendrick night out in Compton might be a little different than a Drake night out in Toronto lol

  

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380. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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Yep. The Internet is overhyping this album. Beats aren't mind blowing. The pharrell track may even be wack.

Good album. I won't even comment on the Illmatic stupidity.

  

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388. "have we talk about how he blacked out on Heart 3"
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I know it ain't out the album that might deserve its own thread...that nigga unfair wit it on that song

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

  

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389. "I look forward to the "replay value"/"does it still hold up" posts..."
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... 2 weeks from now.

Yes, I'm exaggerating.

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393. "Love it so far. Glad I copped instead of DL'ing. Only thing I don't like"
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is the hooks

you got some hooks that are like bridges to sub choruses to choruses

actually it's unique format but it's not the 'best' crafted

also some other hooks are just kind of flat and ill-worded

that's it though

I was up at 1:30 in the morning smoking in my kitchen to "sing about me" staring at the ashtray

  

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448. "^^^^^^"
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I can picture myself doing this, except staring at a bottle lol

PEACE LOVE and MONEY

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395. "Sing About Me just hit me like a ton of bricks "
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for anyone who has lived in a gang/violence/drug/crime infested inner city region
that first verse is the story of alot of people i grew up with
i made it out
alot didnt

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Navem nu, cuando sol
Tutu nu, vondo nos nu
Vita em, no continous non
Nos nu ekta nos sepe ta, amen

When the sun shades the ship
We sweat and life is not safe
To swim or to touch not
When we unite we hedge amen

  

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396. "does the CD come with the lyrics?"
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397. "nah :-( its a pic of his daddy holding a double barrel tho"
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lol

http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


"F you Im better in tune with the Infinite"

  

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401. "yo his face on that is funny as hell"
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422. "funny as fuck actually ..."
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... mutha fucka was serious as shit.

  

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398. "the making of w/the album producers (link)"
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http://theshadowleague.com/articles/the-making-of-good-kid-m-a-a-d-city

too much to swipe. good read, but i wish they would have included the bonus tracks too though.

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402. "I'm surprised at Pharrell on Good Kid. That beat is completely "
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not his style and I was just thinking to myself where has this dude been

To me on an album filled with great beats this one stands out

not for it being better but having a more experienced feel to it

takes a pretty haunting loop and puts it wit a pretty haunting hook

  

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403. "Pharrell did his thing on it."
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http://twitter.com/Menphyel7


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436. "The beat for Good Kid was a leftover from the N*E*R*D album Nothing."
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456. "are you fucking kiding me?"
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proof?! that shit is WAY TOO GOOD to be a leftover hahaha

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467. "Not 100% confirmed, but I trust The Neptunes stans."
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http://theneptunes.org/?s=good+kid+nothing

  

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406. "Might get me fired "
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Listened to a bit of it on my commute this morning and liked what I heard so much that I HAD TO keep listening when I got to the office. Had to.

  

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410. "AOTR - this shit is serious!"
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411. "a live album of this would be crazy"
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but with a live band. no laptop bullshit

it would be insane

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412. "Nah, Kendrick doing this whole LP backed by The Roots tho??!"
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I'd pay..shit, what wouldn't I pay to see that. Especially if it was all of TDE, some of Ab's songs would be unbelievable live let alone with the Legendary. We gotta make this happen.

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414. "Roots Picnic 2013?"
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i've actually been thinking about this.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.â€

  

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413. "sales projections over 200k"
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http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/first-week-sales-projections-for-kendrick-lamars-good-kid-maad-city-are-in

fuck the old/young discussion, errybody loves k.dot

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but keep doin your thang

  

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416. "that's good and it should sustain with word of mouth and"
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"poetic justice" coming out

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417. "Exactly..."
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one of those "slow burner" albums that only gets bigger with word of mouth.

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

  

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419. "job well done"
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he's had a dr. dre & lady gaga co-sign
baby wanted to sign him
he was on tour with drake....all before his album came out.
anything less would've been kreay

  

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445. "fuck thawt...."
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I hope the projections are wrong and it ends up selling 300k at least... So many people downloaded this shit and I know the majority of them liked it... I hope they go and buy it...

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415. "XXL"
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http://www.xxlmag.com/reviews/2012/10/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-maad-city/

  

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424. "pitchfork gives it a 9.5"
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expect a bunch of bearded non-hip hop fans to ask you abt it in the coming days.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/17253-good-kid-maad-city/

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430. "RE: pitchfork gives it a 9.5"
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>expect a bunch of bearded non-hip hop fans to ask you abt it
>in the coming days.



lol

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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425. "inbox?"
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Nigga I'm FAST....*pyoon*
ARE YOU TRYING TO RACE?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Hiper18Yc

  

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428. "RE: inbox?"
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Why not purchase the album instead?

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https://www.instagram.com/thereal_anwarmorse99/

  

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441. "Seriously...I copped and wasn't even a fan"
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>Why not purchase the album instead?


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443. "fine, I'll wait until payday next week."
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*meanwhile, I've bought every Kendrick project I own*

OKPs, I swear....wanna see tax returns when you request a link and shit.

Nigga I'm FAST....*pyoon*
ARE YOU TRYING TO RACE?!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-Hiper18Yc

  

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426. "Amazing. "
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Nothing else to say.


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431. "RE: Amazing. "
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>
>Nothing else to say.


Good....lol

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432. "Y'all was sweating, worried to click my reply LOL"
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I'm a simple dude, man.

I really, really, really like good music.



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433. "Couldn't figure out an angle so you waived the white flag"
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Shameful.

  

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435. "^ Good kid and m.a.a.D poster"
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Why for?

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438. "Because your trolling used to be incredibly entertaining"
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and this C-level shit as of late ain't cutting it.

  

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439. "You post like you ride a bike with no seat. "
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Honest opinion


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442. "Nope. Try harder"
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The Goblin era O-E would never have hit "post message" on your last one.

  

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447. "you corny. Maybe dude for once just has nothin to say and digs it"
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450. "Yeah, he been stalking me for a week now, its flattering"
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n/m

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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475. "If the troll can't handle getting trolled, he shouldn't troll"
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480. "Nah, you tried stalking and got ethered. Shame on you"
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n/m

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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449. "Good kid and m.a.a.D poster <--- fuck lol i wanna steal this"
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451. "Be my guest, big homie"
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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437. "i believe that you do"
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but you also do love to make people mad lol
posting on every board like it's oks

.

but keep doin your thang

  

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440. "Nah, I just bring erudite insight to the 85% "
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>but you also do love to make people mad lol
>posting on every board like it's oks

That's all

5% wisdom, god

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434. "I believe he can rap over any kinda beat.."
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..so long as the beat was dope and had some flavor.. and come off well.

Where Blu kinda sorta flopped w/No York, I think Kendrick would excel.. over high-level, futuristic production.. Flying Lotus, Machinedrum, etc.

  

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444. "GAWDAM this is good. it made me go to the lesson. "
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452. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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I replaced Real and Now Or Never w/ ADHD and Cartoons & Cereal

now it's perfect IMO

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http://oi40.tinypic.com/2enp550.jpg
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454. "Now or Never isn't even apart of the album, imo"
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I split the bonus tracks from the actual album.

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"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

  

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453. "I love it violently"
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__
I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

  

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457. "People are paying top-dollar for sold out tickets to Kendrick's"
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meet&greet tomorrow...tempting..

  

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458. "I got ASAP tickets..."
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I would be pretty surprised if Kendrick didn't show up...


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460. "People are trading ASAP tix for Kendrick meet&greet tix"
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Straight up trade, which is crazy considering the fact that Kendrick's meet&greet tix were free with an album purchase.

  

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461. "WoW...."
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Has he gained that many fans in the past couple weeks??

His Warfield show didn't sell out until day of, I think... Now people trading ASAP tix just for a meet and greet with dude??? that's crazy... And I love Kendrick, but damn... I'm looking forward to the ASAP show... even if he doesn't show up... Should be crazy energy...


hearing people paying hella money for a meet and greet makes me smile... I paid $15 the first time I seen him... haha

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468. "Yep, people making deals on craigslsit and on Facebook"
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on the meet&greet event page. Crazy. When I got my meet&greet ticket Monday morning, there were 100+ people already in line in front of Rasputin before it opened.

  

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501. "E-40, Too Short and Kendrick all came out...."
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That shit was dope!


I've never seen E-40 live so that was pretty special for me...

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469. "I had a couple free tickets to the show in Pomona last week and was told..."
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Called them up to see if they were still selling tickets at the box office so more of us could go.
They told me the show had been sold out for a month and a half. I had no idea he was THAT big

  

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462. "Excellent (c) 3 Stacks"
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What an album, wow. We need more records like this in hip hop.

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Gang Starr / Nujabes blend - https://youtu.be/lsci1vu6ick
DOOM Tribute - https://youtu.be/qmBQ2BDefKM
Donut of the Heart cover in Javascript - https://youtu.be/afLc2CkC8lk

  

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463. "brilliant."
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465. "gotdamn Kendrick EAT'n."
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_______________________________________

<<progressions.

  

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466. "this album is the shit"
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it pretty much blows all of the other young buck's stuff outta the water. to be honest maybe i haven't given others enough of a chance, but this kills everything else as far as i'm concerned. the production is great, and kendrick keeps it interesting the whole time. it's going to be cool to see him grow as an artist.

“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.â€

  

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470. "no talk about "collect calls" ?"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USLzND8DVUw

this is fantastic

  

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471. "County Building Blues and the Black Hippy remixes for Swimming Pools and..."
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County Building Blues
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jphqRKPoodU

Swimming Pools (Black Hippy Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c2ybjS2BJaU

The Recipe (Black Hippy Remix)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My_fDfJphG8


Makes the album over an hour and a half long but well worth it imo

  

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472. "I didn't really care for the Black Hippy remixes..."
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I think it's dope that they did them, but they weren't better than the originals...

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473. "I wouldn't say they're better than the originals either"
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Though I will say I did like hearing Ab-Soul and Q on The Recipe instead of Dre

  

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474. "RE: County Building Blues and the Black Hippy remixes for Swimming Pools..."
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>County Building Blues
>http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jphqRKPoodU

GREAT to hear kendrick over a dj khalil beat

  

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476. "Never heard the Recipe remix"
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Really enjoying it.

  

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477. "Damn, I'm kinda... underwhelmed by the album."
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Idk how to explain it... The songs are all solid. But its almost lacking in the "WOW" department. Its a good 8/10 but I've yet to hear anything that is on that "this already has 100 plays in a day" tip.

But for the good of Hip Hop I'm glad its getting this much critical acclaim

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481. "Honestly: this sound is a bit too busy, don't see it aging too well. "
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Definitely didn't enjoy it as much on day 2. Was
skipping around a whole lot.

Was a whole lot of fun the first listen, though.


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482. "yeah...no clue what you mean....its conceptual....but the songs are"
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perfect.....nothings over done.

what I like about him...is he has a big imagination...and he lets it all out on his songs....which is the genius of his style over anybody out right now

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487. "Some of the songs and hooks are definitely overdone. "
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>perfect.....nothings over done.

>what I like about him...is he has a big imagination...and he
>lets it all out on his songs....which is the genius of his
>style over anybody out right now

Its a bit busy to me.

It was great during a 7am walk to work

But on Day 2 I'm a little irritated by all the
noise...and some of the lyrical gymnastics are
a bit pretentious

Would rather just hear good beats and good raps

'Life Is Good' is going to age better for that reason,
just Nas rapping on some basic shit




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489. "*scratches head*...This is a better album than Life is Good, to me"
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Nas is Nas....and its more of the same thing he's been doing for the past 20 years....

The lyrical prowess, production, layered melodies, and vision this album has is just too much for Life is Good to hold a candle to....

and more importantly the replay value >>>>

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494. "Understated is underrated"
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>Nas is Nas....and its more of the same thing he's been doing
>for the past 20 years....
>
>The lyrical prowess, production, layered melodies, and vision
>this album has is just too much for Life is Good to hold a
>candle to....

"Vision"

Oh lord...LOL

Yeah, all that shit is overdone and the shock value
is done by the third listen

Its really cool and is a swell effort

But sometimes I just want to hear good music

this shit is intentionally *trying* to be a classic

Nas' shit is better because he just sat down, had a few
things to get off his chest, got some beats, and spit

That is a more durable, sincere album in my opinion


>and more importantly the replay value >>>>


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zuma1986
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484. "There's a few skippers but personally I see it aging better"
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than most of the hip hop music that's out there now. That Trap/EDM sound will send shivers down ppl's spines in a few years. This album has a mix of current, old and original, which I think will be the saving grace as oppose to say Cruel Summer which sounds like the "state of the art" for now. Only time will tell but it's definitely still one of my favorite albums of the year, very well crafted without sounding too big. I disagree about the business, I think it's well layered. Nice to hear beats that have a bounce and flow to them.

  

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Orbit_Established
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488. "Some of the beats and hooks are overdone imo"
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>than most of the hip hop music that's out there now. That
>Trap/EDM sound will send shivers down ppl's spines in a few
>years. This album has a mix of current, old and original,
>which I think will be the saving grace as oppose to say Cruel
>Summer which sounds like the "state of the art" for now. Only
>time will tell but it's definitely still one of my favorite
>albums of the year, very well crafted without sounding too
>big. I disagree about the business, I think it's well layered.
>Nice to hear beats that have a bounce and flow to them.

Yeah, I really like the way this sounds.

Great album.

I can see myself growing weary with the effort, though

Sounds overdone


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485. "Kendrick's fav albums"
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http://www.complex.com/music/2012/10/kendrick-lamars-25-favorite-albums

Interesting list, lots of Cash Money stuff.

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Gang Starr / Nujabes blend - https://youtu.be/lsci1vu6ick
DOOM Tribute - https://youtu.be/qmBQ2BDefKM
Donut of the Heart cover in Javascript - https://youtu.be/afLc2CkC8lk

  

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486. "I don't get it..."
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I can hear he's a talented rapper but these beats seem repetitive, boring and too smooth to me. I never was a big west coast hip-hop fan and I'm 30 now. There's just such overwhelming hype I'm trying hard to hear what people are loving so much.

As someone else said I find Killer Mike's RAP Music so much more exciting and interesting.

But hey, my favorite albums took a while to creep up on me. I'm doubtful if that will happen here.

  

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492. "Other people feel it and you don't. Nothing else to discuss"
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No matter their reasoning for liking the album it won't change how you feel about it so why worry about what other people are hearing in this album?

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493. "He has a right to discuss how he feels just like everyone else"
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>No matter their reasoning for liking the album it won't
>change how you feel about it so why worry about what other
>people are hearing in this album?

Let's not get all philosophical just because one person
is brave enough to step outside of consensus

Kendrick Lamar fans are quickly become the most annoying
fans in hip-hop

  

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497. "Truth"
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>Kendrick Lamar fans are quickly become the most annoying
>fans in hip-hop

This is how I felt after all the Section 80 hype. It's like, f*ck's sake, calm down...


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520. "hahaahahhahahaha"
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>This is how I felt after all the Section 80 hype. It's like,
>f*ck's sake, calm down...




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506. "You post like you ride a bike with no seat."
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512. "Interesting. You just bit my reply, just like Kendrick bit Outkast. "
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Perfect harmony

  

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490. "Official fan of this album. "
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section 80 was good but it was good in a "i think im supposed to like this" sort of way.


this shit is fire

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495. "LOL brah, that's exactly how I felt about Section 80"
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"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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500. "yeah i thought section 80 was cool but this kills it"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.â€

  

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503. "perfect summation, and yeah..."
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I fucks with "Section 80". But for a follow up? this album is ridiculous.

  

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498. "Kendrick kicked the door wide open with this shit."
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I don't want to get hyperbolic, but this release adds on to a list of focused, high-quality projects released this year.

I think it's safe to say, that while the superficial "draw" to the music is gone... actual album-oriented RAP MUSIC is back. this is some of the best shit I've heard in years.

  

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508. "it's been a really fantastic year for rap & this week has been the best"
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week that we'll prolly have in it between this & the Man With The Iron Fists OST.

  

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517. "agreed."
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499. "this shit is dope"
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but i must say it does say a lot about the state of music today when this is considered better than illmatic upon first listen lol
i luh diss shit tho.

  

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502. "RE: this shit is dope"
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>but i must say it does say a lot about the state of music
>today when this is considered better than illmatic upon first
>listen lol
>i luh diss shit tho.


There's one person that said it's BETTER than Illmatic...lol

That's not what "most" people who reference Illmatic are saying....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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515. "some heads agreed. "
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it still says a lot about the times imo.

  

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504. "Section.80>GKMC"
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For me at least. Both phenominal albums, but Section.80 is still a more well rounded album to me. Nothing on GKMC is touchin ADHD. That's a breakthrough song in itself. BUt in time I may feel different. Not after a week though.

  

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507. "i wish he had something like "michael jordan""
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nm

  

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509. "I love ADHD but Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe, Maad City & Money Trees"
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are all on its level for me & this album is a more concentrated fully-realized album effort by a pretty wide margin to Section.80

  

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511. "agreed"
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Thu Oct-25-12 11:50 AM by isisbabyboy3

          

>For me at least. Both phenominal albums, but Section.80 is
>still a more well rounded album to me. Nothing on GKMC is
>touchin ADHD. That's a breakthrough song in itself. BUt in
>time I may feel different. Not after a week though.

Nothing is touching ADHD because that song has a level of "fun" and charisma not found on this lp.

The one thing Kendrick should work on imo is being careful not to take himself too seriously.

Take a queue from Outkast, who also made socially aware music, but made sure their music wasn't overwhelmed by their perceived image. For his debut, it feels as if Kendrick was pressured to live up to his image of "incredible lyricist."

I feel his next level is letting his tracks breathe a bit more thereby giving them an organic feel...instead of the mechanical tripledubs and "perfect" flows.

But he is most def on the right track. With the exeption of "Backstreet Freestyle" it's hard to knock anything on here.

"Unequal economics can easily make you some enemies" Cee-Lo

  

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514. "Felt that initially "
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I'm giving the edge to GKMC now.

  

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518. "After a week though?"
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I mean damn.....people are already wildin sayin this is better than Illmatic, but to me it's not better than some of the stuff in Kendricks catalogue yet. I gotta spend some time with these songs. See teh reactions in people when I play them. Gather some memories. I want to put these songs on in a year and have the same feelings I did about ADHD, Spiteful Chant (driving to work gettin amped to that shit is a plus, it's one of the best fuck you songs ever, and it's got layers that catch you off guard), Poe Man's Dreams, Rigamortis, Blow My High, Hol Up, that shit was FULL of GREAT songs. I can have a little more fun with Section.80 but I appreciate the depth Kendrick throws down here.

  

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522. "I def see where you're coming from"
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Kendrick released two great projects before this. It's not like this was unprecedented. This isn't like Kreayshawn upped and made a Supreme Clientele-caliber second album.

  

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516. "that's how i felt at first as i was listening"
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but i had to remember that this is not the first time i'm hearing him rap.

with section.80 i was completely blindsided and wasn't expecting something so great
with good kid i just got what i was expecting so it didn't hit as hard but it's still great

both dope releases.

  

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524. "i've never got the obsession w/ adhd. its just a decent track to me."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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526. "Dude....."
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That track is a fuckin classic to me already. The reason being that it is a damn near perfect blend of content and music.....and with great purpose without bein heavy handed.

The track starts with no drums or anything heavy. It takes a while before the song even starts to knock.....it's setting up a vibe and it's taking you somewhere. It's VERY accessible though. The production on this song alone makes it a win. Then there's what Kendrick does with it. The hook is clever and it's catchy and it's relatable.



Kendrick makes a TON of fuckin points and paints with broad strokes in a relatively narrow narrative. Kids at a party? Gettin high, gettin drunk? ADHD? They are all outliers. He's tryin to talk to this chick but he's talkin to u at the same time. The shit is fuckin genius.

Anytime anyone ask me what song has defined this generation lately.....it's ADHD. In fact that's THE song I point to for that question.





  

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532. "i got the message. i just didnt think the song itself was all that inter..."
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as a shorter interlude i might like it. but the song just doesnt move me.

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543. "Fair enough......"
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That shit got me goin right away......I was like who the fuck is this cat? And I got right in the passenger seat. Been a great ride.

  

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510. "Album of the year for sure. One of them instant classics"
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Hip hop needs more Kendrick Lamars

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513. "If nothing else, this album destroyed Orbit Established"
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For that, we should all be thankful/sad.

  

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519. "best album of the year so far imo"
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i love killer mike's album but this(barely) beats it for me

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Dr Claw
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521. "fuckin 'Maad City'."
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I can't stop playing this shit.

it's the perfect blend of "old LA" and "new LA".

  

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523. "It's GOOD, really GOOD, but..."
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after continuous play

it's not as enjoyable

his voice gets grating

like Weezy, I can't keep listening to it

that's my biggest critique

which I think he tried to combat by adding effects

I think the album could have used some of the songs that are absent

The Recipe
Cartoons and Cereal
WestSide Right on Time (which I burned onto my disc, and replayed more than any track on the album)

it's akin to Undun

you kind of have to be in the mood to receive it's energy

really GOOD album Kendrick

btw, some of the posts in here are hilarious

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525. "Get ready to be banned from the 'Lesson' for that opinion"
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>after continuous play
>
>it's not as enjoyable
>
>his voice gets grating
>
>like Weezy, I can't keep listening to it
>
>that's my biggest critique
>
>which I think he tried to combat by adding effects
>
>I think the album could have used some of the songs that are
>absent
>
>The Recipe
>Cartoons and Cereal
>WestSide Right on Time (which I burned onto my disc, and
>replayed more than any track on the album)
>
>it's akin to Undun
>
>you kind of have to be in the mood to receive it's energy
>
>really GOOD album Kendrick

You are correct, though

This album gets a tad annoying with time

I've already shelved it

Very good album, though

Sounds beautiful, well organized and planned


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529. "RE: Get ready to be banned from the 'Lesson' for that opinion"
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Thu Oct-25-12 08:20 PM by murph71

          


Man....it's not that serious...lol...It's that man's opinion...And I can respect that...

Don't mistake someone's well-adjusted view on music with people jumping on you for saying that old heads was the main reason this Kendrick Lamar album is getting hyped up...That's something totally different, and really, you were all kinda wrong about that...

If people like the album, that's cool...

If not, that's cool too...

Respect...

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534. "Nah, I'm right about that. Problem is that y'all are sensitive. "
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I've sort of just come to peace with the fact that
Kendrick Lamar has a very sensitive fan base....verrry
sensitive. So I'll leave it alone.

This album isn't going to do much, if any, better than
Lasers week 1...and Lasers had zero support from hipster reviewers
or the arty crowd. That's my point. Everyone *likes* Kendrick
Lamar but the basis of of his buzz was created by hipsters
and old hip hop heads.

Kids aren't nearly as married to KL as old folks are. Kids
and women like the sugary shit and will move all the way the
fuck on when the next in-thing comes out...Wiz Khalifah, etc

I recognize that saying anything less than 'Kendrick Lamar
might fix the economy' is taboo....so I'm deciding to not
spoil this post...I want y'all to have a good time and
enjoy life

But by the way....this album isn't going to age well. The
hooks are already annoying and all this changing up of
styles is pretentious.

  

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536. "Says the sensitive Lupe fan. I'll wait for the obnoxious retort below"
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541. ""Lupe is wack b/c he doesn't really skateboard" (c) The Lesson"
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That was probably my favorite.


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538. "RE: Nah, I'm right about that. Problem is that y'all are sensitive. "
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>
>I've sort of just come to peace with the fact that
>Kendrick Lamar has a very sensitive fan base....verrry
>sensitive. So I'll leave it alone.

What's with the deflecting?

U r doing it again, homie...And really, it's not really needed...I'm not a Kendrick "fan"....I'm a guy that likes dope hip-hop...

I just respect when people admit they were wrong...


>This album isn't going to do much, if any, better than
>Lasers week 1...and Lasers had zero support from hipster
>reviewers
>or the arty crowd. That's my point. Everyone *likes* Kendrick
>Lamar but the basis of of his buzz was created by hipsters
>and old hip hop heads.

I didn't like Lasers...And I'm not a huge Lupe fan beyond his first joint...That boy is nice, though....

Again...if you like the Lamar album, that's cool...If not, that's cool too...U won't be a bad guy...U won't be hated...It's just music...

No reason to shit on people for liking certain acts....All this hipster/old head shit is tiring within this convo...

Stop hiding behind such lazy tags...It's silly...


>Kids aren't nearly as married to KL as old folks are. Kids
>and women like the sugary shit and will move all the way the
>fuck on when the next in-thing comes out...Wiz Khalifah, etc

Again...the question is, do YOU like the album? And you said that you did...So that should be the end of it, right?


>I recognize that saying anything less than 'Kendrick Lamar
>might fix the economy' is taboo....so I'm deciding to not
>spoil this post...I want y'all to have a good time and
>enjoy life

Again, you are the master of this silly shit...lol

My issue with you on this thread is not what you think about this Lamar album...

It's you hiding behind bullshit categories and boxes and your rationale behind why folks may or may not like the album...


>But by the way....this album isn't going to age well. The
>hooks are already annoying and all this changing up of
>styles is pretentious.


I respect it when folks just come out and say they don't like something and state their reasons why...I really do...

What I don't like it when people come up with silly reasons as to why people should/shouldn't dig certain music...

It's not enough for you just to say you liked the album because you have become too caught up with your outside battles with some folks on this board...

It's OK to say u like the Lamar album or that you think it won't age well.....without leaning on some bullshit rationale

It looks weak...

Again, this is less about how you feel about the album and more about your constant qualifying on the matter...

There's always a BUT with you...lol

And that comes more from pride than anything else...

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540. "^This is my point. Y'all are VERY sensitive about your little Kendrick. "
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>U r doing it again, homie...And really, it's not really
>needed...I'm not a Kendrick "fan"....I'm a guy that likes dope
>hip-hop...

>I just respect when people admit they were wrong...

But I'm not wrong.

I'm dead on.

Kendrick Lamar has a faaaar larger buzz
among hipsters and old hip hip heads than Rozay,
Drake or Wiz Khalifah. Not even close.

Among young kids, Kendrick is definitely last on
that list.

Problem is, when I say that, old people and hipsters
get mad at me.

You guys are really, really, really sensitive about
your Kendrick Lamar. I've decided to mostly lay off
in this post because I want you all to enjoy life and
have a good weekend. My point is pretty air tight but
it is the type of argument that can ruin a weekend.
Seriously, I got some people ENRAGED in this post...
...not my aim. Especially since I enjoy the album.


>I didn't like Lasers...And I'm not a huge Lupe fan beyond his
>first joint...That boy is nice, though....

Yeah, that's my point:

Lupe did numbers with NO SUPPORT from older hip hop
heads, magazines, art critics, etc. NONE. Lupe didn't
even like that album. The reason that album sold was
because a lot of people really like Lupe. Old people w
who support Kendrick basically abandoned Lupe on Lasers
and for good reason.


>Again...if you like the Lamar album, that's cool...If not,
>that's cool too...U won't be a bad guy...U won't be
>hated...It's just music...


Yeah, I already said I liked it. Problem is, y'all are
sensitive about things have nothing to do with music.

Again, when you list these artists:

Kendrick
Drake
Wiz Khalifah

Kendrick is the most popular/revered among old people
and the least popular/revered among young people.

Its a fact. Not an opinion. That's all I'm saying.


>No reason to shit on people for liking certain acts....All
>this hipster/old head shit is tiring within this convo...


You're tired because you're sensitive. You mad too, but I
won't dwell on you being mad.


  

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542. "RE: ^This is my point. Y'all are VERY sensitive about your little Kendri..."
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What is all this "Y'all" business?....

Why are you placing me in a box with other folks as if I'm with a mob?

Let's just keep this simple...

1. I've never shitted on your commentary about the actual album...I never said you were right or wrong on your views about this Lamar album...

2. Your feelings about the actual material on this album can be debated, but you will not be in the wrong for stating your personal opinion on the matter...

3. My ONLY issue with you is your laziness in covering up the fact that you said something totally silly and uninformed..

You said OLD Heads were pacing the hype surrounding Kendrick Lamar...And I said that was not true...By a mile...Now there have been various folks who have proven that your thesis is without merit with pretty cut-and-dry results---Bomb being one of them...And they did so with respect and without name calling...

This^^^^^is our debate...Not what you think about the album or this Kendrick Lamar kid...Or how sensitive I am about any act...

U dig?

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530. "RE: It's GOOD, really GOOD, but..."
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I believe "The Recipe" is featured on the deluxe version of the album....

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535. "not to be misunderstood, i love the album and the hype is well deserved"
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From the promise displayed on Section.80

I was definitely excited for the follow up

And he DELIVERED

but it's not on the level of some of the albums being mentioned in this thread

It's just not

REALLY GOOD shouldn't be seen as a slight

It just is

to be great or a classic the above mentioned songs should have been included (deluxe or not)

the jeezy jawn could have been sequenced right after the interlude quoting him

Even cartoons and the recipe have intros that would have allowed them to be inserted into the album seamlessly

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527. "I wish MC Eiht rapped on the first half of M.A.A.D City "
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528. "I really don't understand the hype to this album..."
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People calling it a classic? For real? I like Kendrick and I think he's a great mc, but what the hell on here makes it so great for it to warrant a thousand threads a day and calling it greater than Illmatic or other such proven classics? The hook on "real" is horrible and some of the corny voices he does just ruins other tracks. I don't know, maybe I'm just old, but I don't get it. Not hating at all, I do think he's dope at times, just not crazy about the album.

  

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533. "Where would Cartoon's & Cereal be in the story line?"
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He said the song only didn't make it on there because of sample clearance issues... would it go before backseat freestyle?

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537. "this is s good album, people"
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and I think he lived up to his potential for a first album, unlike most of his peers
but saying it's transcendent is silly as fuck, much less premature

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539. "Instant Classic. Can we get a 1 to 5 star poll here in the Lesson?"
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Let's settle this.

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566. "RE: no such thing as an Instant Classic. "
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>Let's settle this.
>
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577. "Its already the most overrated album of the last 5 years. "
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Easily.

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544. "anyone know what song the screw'd up lyrics in the first verse..."
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of "M.A.A.D. City" are from? They come in at about at about 51 seconds in.

  

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546. "Question:"
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With this album, are we ready to start putting Kendrick's name at or at least near the top of the greatest rappers of the new millennium?

Seems outlandish?

As I said earlier, name me more than one or two rappers who have put out, in the last 12 or so years in rap music, three consecutive projects as strong as O.D., s80 and GKMC. 'Ye, ok. Anyone else?

No agenda, honest question.

Because if you can't, then he's clearly that dude. And with the success commercially of the new album, it's not like you can dismiss dude as not culturally relevant or mass appealing as I heard when I tried to say Kendrick was the best rapper in the world a year ago after dropping the best release of that year as well.

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547. "krit wuz here, returnof4eva, 4evanaday"
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549. "Good one"
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I don't think they're quite this good though, and their trajectory was a lil different, as the best was basically the first, while Kendrick got better with each.

Nevermind that when it was his time to shine (or as much of a time as he was gonna get) he didn't really deliver his best product. Not bad, but he didn't hit a homerun on Def Jam.

Kendrick had the grand slam with all eyes on him.

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550. "many would disagree with you, including me"
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i think "krit wuz here" is the worst of the three.

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567. "KRIT, Kanye, Curren$y, Killer Mike"
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KRIT Ye and Clipse are the only relatively new acts I got above him though (only problem for Curren$y is how much he's put out, and grading a lot of his 08 run which was a lot of highlights surrounded by twice as much average stuff).


I'm still not exactly looking forward to a Lamar guest verse though like I would be KRIT, or Curren$y, or Gibbs, or Skyzoo or Torae or Gucci Mane or Danny Brown or 2 Chainz. But outside Ye and KRIT he's definitely the best at making a dope, cohesive album, and that counts for a lot with my listening habits mainly being albums/mixtapes from front to back.



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570. "hell no. this nigga JUST got a seat at the table."
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571. "LMAO. Only in the Lesson. "
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You're smoking crack.

KL made a funky, nice album.

All that other shit you just said is asinine and
none if it is within miles of being true.


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548. "its too early, but after the hype/dust settles, i wonder what"
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the general consensus will be of this vs. returnof4eva

cuz for me, that was krits classic, and while i'm enjoying this, i doubt i'll end up liking it as much as that

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551. "You're askin these mfkrs a hard question......"
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Can two really great albums exist in the same space without there being any bullshit back and forth?

Of course yes. On OKP though? That's a trick question.

What's sad is sometimes it isn't even about two legitimately comparable artists.

Kendrick and K.R.I.T. I understand comparing. But some of these other cats fuckin suck. There is also a serious lack of common sense and respect about what you can compare something to and in what context. Saying GKMC>Illmatic is nuts. Come all the way the fuck on son. GKMC ain't been out a week yet. Kendrick is dope as fuck too. But that's Nas. He has a whole fuckin catalogue of dopeness. He literally was a game changer. He set the stage. Let him have his legacy without shitting all on it every second a new album drops. Even a good one.

Another good example of course is The Roots.

The Roots should get way more respect here than they do and I bet some nigga at this exact moment is somewhere talkin up a Meek Mill track and would openly shit on Black Thought if given the chance.

The Roots are Philly royalty. Hip hop royalty.

Black Thought is fuckin HARD. No one has come along lately that goes in like he has.

This is what's it's come to.

This place is like a fuckin barbershop with the hyperbole and ridiculous ass comments sometimes. I feel like I'm wating for bootleg man and an open chair when I come up in here most days.





  

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552. "On the real..."
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I kind of regret writing that Kendrick Lamar/Illmatic piece early on....

Because it has morphed into some other shit...

There's no more room for nuance any more....It's crazy...People saw the title "Is Kendrick Lamar's 'Good Kid, M.A.A.d City' The Most Important Debut Since 'Illmatic'?" and they took it to crazy levels...

People saw the name Nas and Lamar together and went to crazy town (on both sides...)

It's like, forget that I'm talking about debut albums and not that one album is >>>>> than the other...Forget that I was comparing less about cultural impact and more about the similarities between two acts that were able to capture their cities, environment and everyday politics with brilliant transcendence....

Or when I talk to heads WAAAY younger than me and they have the same look in their eye I had when discussing Nas in 1994 when they discuss Kendrick Lamar...

Nah...the whole thing has turned to good kid MAAD City>>>>>Illmatic...

That's a shame....

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553. "c'mon son...you did that"
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don't act surprised by irrational responses from lesson posters

but if you want to talk about it...

for me

the major differences are the strategies and timing

whether determined by the industry or talent

the model in the 90s was to generate buzz by association

make a couple of cameos, appearances, etc...

which Nas was doing on jawns like BBQ, etc...

people get an idea of your talent and what to expect

to which you immediately capitalize on by releasing your project

see Doggystyle

IMO

GKMC would qualify as Kendrick's 3rd album by the old standards

so the changes in the industry have seen this dude grinding for years

put out massive amounts of work, in comparison to what Nas put out before Illmatic

all of that is to say the anticipation and expectations were different

we already knew what we were gonna get from Kendrick quality wise

and IMO, I prefer section.80

everybody wanted to hear Nas spit for a whole album

everybody

all this talk about hipsters, ol heads, etc...

those divisions weren't really defined in that era

either you were grunge/alternative or you were hip-hop/r&b

so EVERYBODY I knew was anticipating Illmatic

now if you want to compare cultural impact, significance, etc...

I don't think GKMC is that kind of album

which might also be a result of the age differences of Nas on Illmatic and Kendrick on GKMC

20 and 25 might not seem like alot

but Nas at 20 was straight spittin'

RAW

Kendrick's put out his fair share of projects already

he's a bit more polished and to some degree formulated

he's also in a different space consciously

for the comparison to work

maybe a release from Kendrick at 19-20 while he's still living through some of the stories he's illustrating

instead of reflecting on them at a different space in life

is where I would start

a concept album like GKMC is not a good comparison to Illmatic to start with really

cats jumped in, which as somebody posted already

is probably more of an indication of where the industry as a whole is

most of the hip-hop releases on majors are trying to capture a certain demographic

it's refreshing to see an artist not particularly give a fuck about fans

and be more focused on the quality of the project

which makes GKMC a REALLY GOOD album

but instant classic, Illmatic, etc...

it's not, it's just not

IMO, section.80 was that album

if Kendrick could have found a way to incorporate some of the less challenging songs

like The Recipe and WestSide Right on Time into the album

it would have helped with the replay value

as is

it's challenging to listen to sometimes

after first spin, I was very impressed

but it's kind of like lifting the curtain on the wizard

you know what's on the album now, it's content, message, etc...

it's hard to reach for that album in certain situations

an album like Illmatic stayed in the deck

and didn't come out

just my $.02

and we're not even gonna compare mic skills are we?

yeah, Kendrick goes in, here and there

Nas went in for a whole album

a WHOLE album

whatever your opinion is on Nas, it's not arguable IMO

Illmatic is like the holy grail for spittin'

if somebody put out a project that surpassed it

or was equal in quality, content, or whatever metric you want to use

you wouldn't need to make a post about it

WE'D ALREADY KNOW

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554. "RE: c'mon son...you did that"
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Good post....



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556. "GREAT post."
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No one else has brought up any of these points yet about this. There are all very VALID points. It was just a different era then. ANd you had to be on your shit in 94 to make it. There wasn't any Drake's gettin on. There was so much good hip hop at the time.

I'm spoiled now cause I thought it'd always be like that. I was on my way to middle school when Illmatic came out. I literally grew up with these albums from 94-01. 94-97 especially was dope. My god. So it makes no sense to try and compare everything side by side. That was a whole different time and vibe then. The stakes were higher.

Also look at the fuckin albums that came out in 1994. To even say Illmatic is the best is a matter of opinion considering how much dope shit came out. For it to be so revered lets you know it's the shit.

Outkast- Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik
Biggie - Ready to Die
Common - Resurrection
Pete Rock & CL Smooth - The Main Ingredient
Beatnuts- Beatnuts
Gang Starr - Hard to Earn
Scarface - The Diary
Method Man - Tical
Warren G - G. Funk Era
Beastie Boys - Ill Communication
Fugees - Blunted on Reality

^^^^^LOOK AT THIS SHIT!^^^^^^

That's fuckin crazy! And that ain't even all the dope albums.

The first time I heard Nas was on Illmatic. That's just how it was then. There was no internet. You had to get the bootleg TAPE. Out where I was at we didn't have shit. You just got the CD when it came out and you WAITED. Meanwhile you read whatever magazine you could get a hold of and watched whatever previews or videos you could see.

So yeah when we see stuff like GKMC>Illmatic......it's going to look ridiculous. There's jsut too much other shit to consider. it's almost saying:

GKMC> Illmatic/Ready to Die/Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik/Resurrection/G. Funk Era



  

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558. "RE: GREAT post."
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>So yeah when we see stuff like GKMC>Illmatic......it's going
>to look ridiculous. There's jsut too much other shit to
>consider. it's almost saying:
>
>GKMC> Illmatic/Ready to
>Die/Southernplayalisticadillacmuzik/Resurrection/G. Funk Era


Indeed...the problem, however, is that was never the intent of the piece that seemingly lit the fire...That was never the point....

It's like someone playing small ball (the actual piece) vs. someone hitting a homerun, doing the moonwalk around the bases and then breaking out into the Dougie at home plate...

If you make it sound crazy, then it looks like it's crazy....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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559. "Just to clear this up."
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I wasn't directing my post at you at all man. You actually have a sane grasp of the situation. I enjoy your work. I enjoy talkin music here regardless of the crazy ass opinions.

I was referring to this post:

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2749868&mesg_id=2749868&page=4

  

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560. "RE: Just to clear this up."
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Props...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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561. "i'm not letting you slide with this fam"
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Blunted on Reality is not and never was dope.

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562. "Maybe to you......"
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I like that shit and I think it's a dope album. It's got some flaws for sure (namely Pras entirely), Boof BaF, Nappy Heads, Vocab, and Some Seek Stardom are good cuts man. The remixs of Vocab and Nappy Heads are really good. This isn't as good as The Score but it doesn't suck as bad as people try to make it out to.

  

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565. "looking at your list kind of emphasizes Illmatic's impact"
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we put all that shit aside when Illmatic came out*

alot of GREAT artists and albums came out around that time

Tribe
De La
Mobb
Pete and CL
WU
Dre
GStarr
KRS
Kast
Roots

were all at or near their creative peaks

in terms of artistry, and even output

those are big names, and some of those names had arguably either just released their best album, or were on the verge of releasing their repsective classic

all of that was put on pause when Illmatic came out

it had its moment, but it was its moment in its entirety

no arguments

GKMC will probably go the way of MBDTF

it will get alot of hype and critical claim initially

and deservedly so

it's a really GOOD album

but it won't be as sustaining or impactful as Illmatic

a better analogy might have been Pharcyde's Bizzare Ride

Kendrick didn't go the way of trap music, or whatever label you put on the music his counterparts are releasing

he did him

yeah, Pharcyde would have been a better analogy

*I can remember the day, VIVIDLY, that Illmatic was released

I cut school to go buy that shit





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665. "Hmmm..."
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It is so tough to put things in perspective from two dramatically different eras. And there's a lot of questions to ask. In attempt to be concise (y'all know better...):

- Has the average person's capacity to enjoy multiple albums at the same time increased since 94? I know the OPPORTUNITY and AVAILABILITY is there, but I'm talking capacity of the average individual to listen to music. I want to say it SHOULD be much higher because people take in so much more information now. But is it also possible that all of the information people take in now actually leaves less room for music than ever before? There's updates for pretty much everything: sports, news, weather, celeb stalking, facebook/personal updates, twitter, blackberry work emails, etc. Who has AND takes time to listen to Good Kid, MAAD City a few times from front to back until all of the songs and skits make perfect sense? I know how many times I listened to Illmatic before I got used to the speed and appreciated the rhyme schemes, etc.

- How much does the 'I want to be the one who is too cool for what other people like' thing hurt ANY album from becoming an over the top beloved album in today's world? I mean...folks didn't argue about Doggystyle, did they?! Most folks either said it wasn't their thing and kept it moving. Everyone else said 'yeah...its pretty much jamming...dub me a copy..I'll bring a blank tape tomorrow..does your copy have 'Gs up, hoes down' on it? Awww...nevermind mane...'

- Did everyone really put things aside when Illmatic dropped?

- Was that a regional reaction? I ask because I remember folks forgetting everything else when Doggystyle hit. Doggystyle was like the Friday of rap albums. For like 2 years, that album was on EVERYWHERE I went. Of course/however, in Houston, Illmatic was something different/slower to develop. You listened to on your walkman or discman randomly in between UGK, Scarface, Maze, Isley Brothers, Jodeci, and Keith Sweat albums. It wasn't something you threw on with a chick in your mama's car or even with your boys when you were trying to look cool rolling around the food court to park at the mall or at Oasis. And since the world was much bigger then, it was like late 95 or around the time It Was Written was dropping before I asked folks 'hey, I've been listening to Nas for a while. Illmatic was dope as shit, right?' and then the other person's face would light up and the response would be 'hell yeah! I thought it was just me! I still listen to that! Dude was rappin his ass off on there!'.

- Impact is hard to project, right? Sometimes, you HOPE an album makes folks try harder (College Dropout) or do better in terms of lyrical thickness (Illmatic). But sometimes, it just makes folks do double CDs (All Eyez on Me/Life After Death) or try to go into something for everybody mode, which I still see as an issue when cats who don't have the flexibility or talent to pull of 'something for everybody' try to do it. GFID for instance...and I'm a supporter of most things Rawse (HUH!). He was on the verge, but he swung too hard for the something for everybody thing and made an album with several good songs in between some 'ehh' tracks that were in a VERY wrong order. And don't start me on how he gave away too much on Rich Forever, guest songs (no way you give up Lord Knows), and how I Love My Bitches after 3 Kings sounds great.

To play along on the Kendrick situation, I'll say that having any decent artist with a movement of some kind is going to make me smile. That clip of him, Dr. Dre, and 3000 in the studio makes me smile cuz he rapped along with it like he FELT it. The video of him 'performing' Money Trees at Best Buy with a older white guy in a suit damn near wincing everytime he says 'ya bish!' with the small crowd singing along the whole time? Folks krunk to see Jay Rock show up for his verse? Still smiling. It is simple hiphop situations like that..that's why I'm still listening to this shit.

I think...at a minimum...the hope surrounding this GKMC project has been born and bred on the hope that it forces the issue with other artists to do better. I don't think everyone wants every cat to be having skits and stories happening throughout their album. I don't think everyone wants Rawse using squirrelly voices on hooks. And I don't think everyone is ready for folks to try to hit them in the face with the death and drama that is STILL happening in their city (ask Lupe how it is going with F&L2). I DO think this is a damn good album that might send some lesser folks back to the drawing board. And that 'oh shit...I gotta do better' feeling is almost always a good thing.

I personally hope that fans of the music have heard the album more than they've heard the hype and managed to take away great things away from it that are really there: the heart of the story (I made it almost by accident or lack of fatal accident, but folks around me weren't as lucky), the statements made from the use of the parents throughout the skits/ludes, the vulnerable nature of everyone involved in the story, the more than solid rapping, the attempt at cohesion without just having the same beat over and over, the hits that fit the album AND manage to sound 'current' without sounding like bad mimickry (some of Kendrick's earlier stuff), etc.

Also, I hope folks on both 'sides' of the argument allow this album to grow into whatever it becomes instead of trying to tack leaves and branches onto the album artificially to make the album something that it hasn't even had time to become yet. And my god mad folks, put down the damn chainsaws! Even if you don't like it, the world is going to keep spinning. Stop standing on top of shit to shout out that you don't like it only to be shocked and appalled when somebody throws a rock or two at yo ass. Get the fuck down and get over it..negative nancy ass niggas..go listen to and talk about something that you DO like. Spread love or something like that.

A warning: wack music will get made because of Kendrick's album. History tells us that. How many 'super lyrical' but ultimately hollow as hell albums came out after Illmatic? How many horrible 'gangsta' albums hit after NWA, Chronic, and Doggystyle? How many wack as shit, barely singing, no lyric-having headwrap folks did we have to suffer through in R&B/soul music after D, Max, and Badu came in? How many 'regular guys' popped up after College Dropout who not only didn't have ANYTHING to say, but didn't even have the decency to be at least kinda jamming? How many bloated double CDs did we all slog through in the late 90s after Pac and BIG got shot and left those 4 discs for everyone to study and attempt to mimick with far less talent behind the boards and on the mic? It is going to happen. And folks will blame Kendrick for that. Just like folks blamed Pac for his psycho fanbase who says he's the best (*raises hand*) and Ja Rule. If Pac is dead (he is), he probably rolled in his grave. Or maybe his ashes got ashier...

Jimaveli

>we put all that shit aside when Illmatic came out*
>
>alot of GREAT artists and albums came out around that time
>
>Tribe
>De La
>Mobb
>Pete and CL
>WU
>Dre
>GStarr
>KRS
>Kast
>Roots
>
>were all at or near their creative peaks
>
>in terms of artistry, and even output
>
>those are big names, and some of those names had arguably
>either just released their best album, or were on the verge of
>releasing their repsective classic
>
>all of that was put on pause when Illmatic came out
>
>it had its moment, but it was its moment in its entirety
>
>no arguments
>
>GKMC will probably go the way of MBDTF
>
>it will get alot of hype and critical claim initially
>
>and deservedly so
>
>it's a really GOOD album
>
>but it won't be as sustaining or impactful as Illmatic
>
>a better analogy might have been Pharcyde's Bizzare Ride
>
>Kendrick didn't go the way of trap music, or whatever label
>you put on the music his counterparts are releasing
>
>he did him
>
>yeah, Pharcyde would have been a better analogy
>
>*I can remember the day, VIVIDLY, that Illmatic was released
>
>I cut school to go buy that shit
>
>
>
>
>
>

  

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666. "Good shit. I like this post"
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too bad more people won't see it.

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557. "ALBUM OF THE YEAR?"
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563. "Better then I thought it would be."
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The Recipe is my favourite.

  

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564. "Compton is a letdown production wise....."
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The shit sounds tired.....the best way I can describe it.

  

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568. "Edited album order"
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Sherane A.K.A. Master Splinters Daughter
Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe
Backstreet Freestyle
Cartoon & Cereal
The Art Of Peer Pressure
Money Trees (Feat. Jay Rock)
County Building Blues
Poetic Justice (Feat. Drake)
Good Kid
Collect Calls
M.A.A.D City (Feat. MC Eiht)
Swimming Pools (Drank)
Sing About Me, Im Dying Of Thirst
Real (Feat. Anna Wise Of Sonnymoon)




This worked out the best for me after some tinkering.

  

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572. "LMAO on this hate right here"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXSMruMkvPg


album is trash

this is equivalent to Stephen A Smith's denial of saying N please, no explanation of why, just talking to be heard lol

  

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573. "RE: Kendrick Lamar - good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012) (Album Discussion)"
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I must be too old, or maybe this “modern hip hop” is not for me. I’ve listened to Kendrick’s songs when I’ve heard new isht on HHS.com or HHDX.com, and even went back and re-listened to mAAd City (granted, just the “preview songs” on iTunes), but I just can’t get into it. The biggest thing is the annoying voices to me. Is he trying to rap like Wayne or Devin? Or an alien? I don’t get it. And never been a fan of the sing-y song-y rapping. I think the production sounds pretty good, but it is kind of “sleepy” to me – if that makes sense. Kind of like a more rapping version of Man on the Moon (which I also didn’t like).

I’ve tried to like this album. Really. I’ve heard all the people talk about how he is today’s Nas (this is today’s “Illmatic”), and how he is great lyrically. I catch some nice verses, but overall am not wowed. I’ve read all the glowing reviews, and am sorely in need of new music (it’s been so hard for me to find anything that grabs me). I thought Ab-Soul’s album was better than this. I don’t know… maybe I am just holding on to “my hip hop” (89-96) and letting this modern hip hop pass me by.

I'm not Pro-Dope...just Anti-Wack

  

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575. "No Offense....."
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But I hope I never end up like this. It would be a sad day when I can't vibe to new music.

  

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576. "I'm assuming you like every new album by every artist. "
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>But I hope I never end up like this. It would be a sad day
>when I can't vibe to new music.

Maybe dude just listened to it and doesn't like it.

I liked it during my first listen but its annoying
by listen 3. Just too much noise and dumbass hooks
and voices.



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578. "I stopped reading...."
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>I must be too old, or maybe this “modern hip hop” is not for
>me. I’ve listened to Kendrick’s songs when I’ve heard new isht
>on HHS.com or HHDX.com, and even went back and re-listened to
>mAAd City (granted, just the “preview songs” on iTunes), but I
>just can’t get into it.


^^^^^^RIGHT THERE


No shit you can't get into it... It's a complete album... You can't hear 30 seconds or minute snippets and judge this album... It has a 12 minute song on there... Multiple beat switch ups... The skits also play a big part...

But it kinda sounds like you've made up your mind...

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583. "He isn't any less open-minded than y'all are. "
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Y'all decided from jump that this was going to be a
classic...before you ever really heard it

He heard some shit, told you how he felt

Respect differing opinions

Not everyone follows the herd

and mind you, I LOVED the album on listen #1, would
still give it about 4 mics

But its waaay too overdone to be a true classic


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588. "RE: He isn't any less open-minded than y'all are. "
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>Y'all decided from jump that this was going to be a
>classic...before you ever really heard it

No... figured I would like it, but no way did I think classic... I was halfway expecting to be a little disappointed...

>He heard some shit, told you how he felt

He, self-admittedly, heard iTunes previews... I don't feel this is an album you can judge based off previews... I don't feel you can really judge any album that way... He possibly went in expecting something different than what he heard, and that caused him trouble getting into the samples... But I don't believe you can judge an album thats over an hour long which contains 8 tracks over 5 minutes, one track that is 12 minutes long, and multiple beat switch ups in 12 minutes of samples...

>Respect differing opinions

I respect different opinions... Me and you have different opinions of this album... I haven't said shit to you... But you went and listened to the album... in it's entirety... Gave it a few listens...

>Not everyone follows the herd

Save your petty insults for someone else...

>and mind you, I LOVED the album on listen #1, would
>still give it about 4 mics
>
>But its waaay too overdone to be a true classic

I'm not the judge of what "true classics" are... I only have personal classics...

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580. "I felt that way about his voice at first too..."
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but the more you listen to it, the more it makes sense

sometimes he goes into an almost childish tone

when he's speaking from that viewpoint

this really stuck out to me when he starts a verse off something like

fresh out of high school sleeping on my momma's couch

his voice actually sounds like a teenager's with the shaking and cracking

and the alien effects are when he goes deeper into his conscious

like a voice inside his head speaking to himself

he not externalizing, he's internalizing

what blew me away was sing about me

he continued the female theme from section.80

and spit from the viewpoint of her sister

it's really an incredible album

and I'm on the verge of calling it a masterpiece

I'll wait until the winter though

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582. "Nah, sounds like you're copping pleas, honestly"
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>but the more you listen to it, the more it makes sense
>
>sometimes he goes into an almost childish tone
>
>when he's speaking from that viewpoint
>
>this really stuck out to me when he starts a verse off
>something like
>
>fresh out of high school sleeping on my momma's couch
>
>his voice actually sounds like a teenager's with the shaking
>and cracking

That's overdoing it, though.

We don't want that

We want some good sounding music

Like I said, this album is overdone

>and the alien effects are when he goes deeper into his
>conscious

Doesn't matter. It sounds annoying

>like a voice inside his head speaking to himself
>
>he not externalizing, he's internalizing
>
>what blew me away was sing about me
>
>he continued the female theme from section.80
>
>and spit from the viewpoint of her sister
>
>it's really an incredible album
>
>and I'm on the verge of calling it a masterpiece
>
>I'll wait until the winter though

Notice how you don't have to make excuses for
the Illmatics and Cuban Linx's of the world

You just put them on and they are good

This one needs all kinds of qualifiers and
plea cops







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586. "What's your angle here??"
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Why are you everyone's spokesman? Seems like you're doing too much.

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Heavy Ro'
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Roc Marci - RR2
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587. "LMAO! Classic Lessonhead response"
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>Why are you everyone's spokesman? Seems like you're doing
>too much.

You got people in here saying Kendrick Lamar has
solidified himself as one of the great rappers of
the last decade....but IM DOING TOO MUCH?!?!

Lol

Just stop.

This post is a disgrace: literally everyone who expresses
an opinion other than this album cures world hunger is
getting criticized.

Stop being sensitive.

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591. "how many projects must you release??"
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>>Why are you everyone's spokesman? Seems like you're doing
>>too much.
>
>You got people in here saying Kendrick Lamar has
>solidified himself as one of the great rappers of
>the last decade....but IM DOING TOO MUCH?!?!
>

Kendrick Lamar has released 4 quality projects since I started listening to him... And now a major label debut that met most expectations... So how many quality projects must a person release before he can be known as a great rapper??

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593. "You're writing in caps"
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For f*ck's sake, calm down, it's just music....

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Jay Rock - Redemption
Roc Marci - RR2
Travis Scott - Astroworld
Taz Arnold - rAd americA

  

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murph71
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620. "RE: LMAO! Classic Lessonhead response"
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U Trolling this thread like a mufucka...lol

Hilarious...

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590. "He's been trying multiple angles for two weeks"
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He unwieldy giant troll hands have yet to get a good grasp on one yet though.

  

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mdplayer
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607. "OK, went back and re-listened (in full), and..."
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Only songs I really dig are:

The Art of Peer Pressure
The Recipe
I'm Dying of Thirst (I can't get over the annoying chorus in Sing About Me)
mAAd City (barely - his voice gets on my nerves, but I like his flow, and the second half bangs)

Honorable Mention: Black Boy Fly

Solid album, but I'm just not with all of you who call this a classic (even in this day, where it seems like people reach and feel the need to call something a classic before it is). I think I would LOVE this album if he re-mixed it without the annoying voices (use guests if you want to do a different person/perspective) and annoying choruses (and Drake). I do respect the concept album though, which is hard to do, and hard to do well.

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574. "One week in: this is already annoying. I'm just about done with it. "
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His voice gets really annoying, the lyrics are good but
hollow and mostly substanceless and the HOOKS are ATROCIOUS

It sounds like noise, in fact

Album is too contrived to age well

  

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579. "Loss Established"
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Orbit_Established
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581. "o u still mad Macklemore selling with no promotion and buzz? "
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Unlike you, I paid for and bought Kendrick's album

Contributed to his excellent sales, great for him,
he deserves

You downloaded, took food off of his plate

I'm a better fan than you are

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589. "Please, Im a WAY bigger Macklemore fan than your old hipster ass"
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Who do you think told him getting the Black Hippy guys on his album was the best way to get credibility outside of frat row? Granted, Mac Miller probably told him to do that first but I don't have time to get into that...Mack's on Ellen right now!!!

  

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584. "Let's play what if...."
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What if you weren't inherently contrarian....

What if there had been a message board like this back in the early to mid 90's....

What if an artist could be allowed to be original without being black listed....

What if change didn't scare folks.....

What if every artist sounded like your favorite artist.....

What if this album really wasn't any good....

What if you could make a better album.....

  

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585. "What if you weren't mad? "
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592. "I like this a lot but don't love it"
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the title tracks are my favorites, Good Kid and M.A.A.D. City are my shit, his voice a tad annoys me on M.A.A.D. City but when Eiht comes in, yessir. Also, Compton is dope so basically the songs that sound really west coast are the ones I dig the most. Overall tho can't see myself going back a lot to this album and like OE thought it was great on first listen but replays aren't doing it for me.

I like Life Is Good a lot better, still hasn't left my rotation and think I enjoy Lupe's F&L2 better, has more lows but some of the wordplay I still keep catching new things which I like. "dodging bullets like Remo" see I enjoy that stuff cuz Im a nerd and I liked Remo Williams growing up. He could have easily said 'dodging bullets like Neo' and most would understand that reference more but went for the more obscure line and I dig that.

  

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594. "^This is honestly how I feel. Great review and perspective. "
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>the title tracks are my favorites, Good Kid and M.A.A.D. City
>are my shit, his voice a tad annoys me on M.A.A.D. City but
>when Eiht comes in, yessir. Also, Compton is dope so
>basically the songs that sound really west coast are the ones
>I dig the most. Overall tho can't see myself going back a lot
>to this album and like OE thought it was great on first listen
>but replays aren't doing it for me.
>
>I like Life Is Good a lot better, still hasn't left my
>rotation and think I enjoy Lupe's F&L2 better, has more lows
>but some of the wordplay I still keep catching new things
>which I like. "dodging bullets like Remo" see I enjoy that
>stuff cuz Im a nerd and I liked Remo Williams growing up. He
>could have easily said 'dodging bullets like Neo' and most
>would understand that reference more but went for the more
>obscure line and I dig that.

  

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596. "GKMC 1st Week Sales: 219,624"
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congrats to Kendrick Lamar, he debuted at #2 behind Taylor Swift who moved 971,801 units of her new album "Red"

219,624 is a GOOD look, hope he has continued success.

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597. "damn @ the dropoff"
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this is like the box office in January

  

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599. "How on Earth is Adele still in the top 10?"
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That's insane.

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610. "Those aren't the final numbers for either record."
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612. "Drake did 450,000 in his debut. "
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Let the excuse-making begin!

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634. "RE: Drake did 450,000 in his debut. "
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LOL @ you acting like numbers actually matter.

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598. "Aight after a couple of weeks i only listen to 6 songs consistently........"
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bitch don't kill my vibe
money trees
poetic justice (for drake mostly)
swimming pools
real
and the recipe

still a good album but it's not growing on me
the skits and "concept" got tired after repeated listens to be honest
the thing about his voice is 100% truth
about to DL meek millz jawn now. not even expecting it to be as good as K.lamar jawn but at this point it'll probably still knock maad city out of rotation
if ppl wanna call this a classic, by 2012 standards, i still agree
the 6 songs i still like i REALLY like
and the rest aren't necessarily bad.....they just aren't worth listening to long term over newer better shit

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601. "The fact that you still listen to that many songs consistently "
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is a good sign for Kendrick Lamar. Who stills bumps an entire album constantly a week after its release like a mental patient anyway?

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600. "atribecalledx.com- Album Review/Screw Album Remix"
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I would love to create a new thread given that this one is very long. But this feels like the appropriate place to put this post.

Here's an in depth review and analysis I wrote for my website
(Disclaimer: It is lengthy)

http://atribecalledx.com/2012/10/30/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-m-a-a-d-city-album-review/

Overly Dedicated, Kendrick Lamar’s 2010 mixtape, was a trickle of water to the parched throats of thirsty hip-hop heads. Autotune had permeated hip-hop music to the point that even Jay-Z called for its death. Lamar brought something genuine to the table, reminding hip-hop fans what a young hungry MC uncorrupted by the corporate industry sounds like again. In 2011, Section 80 was released and took Kendrick’s fame and popularity to the next level. He reportedly worked with Dr. Dre on Detox and garnered praise from the hip-hop publications to the indie press for his latest effort. His rhymes got faster and more complex; it became clear that he was a man who took his craft seriously.

In the Spring “The Recipe (featuring Dr. Dre)” swept the radio and internet, exposing him to more potential fans. The laid back Californian anthem boosting about “women, weed, and weather” was the stepping stone he needed to fully cross-over. Later in the year, “Swimming Pools (Drank)” would seal the deal for his mainstream introduction as it went on to enter into Billboards top 20 for the hip-hop chart. And as brilliant as Lamar may have came off to fans in his earlier releases, he hadn’t even begin to tell his story yet.

Good Kid, m.A.A.d city (subtitled A short film by Kendrick Lamar), chronicles a day in the life of the young rapper, then named K. Dot, and the ills that he faced growing up in Compton, CA. Lamar cleverly weaves his story together with immaculately produced tracks, and skits that have the perfect element of realism.

The album opens with a prayer and introduces the story’s narrative with “Sherane a.k.a Master Splinter’s Daughter.” He met Sherane at a house party on El Segundo & Central in South LA. Her mother was a crack addict, so she lived with her grandmother with her two younger brothers. Lamar mentions her favorite cousin is named Demetrius and that she comes from a gang-affiliated family. He borrowed his mother’s keys to the van to go see her. Being a horny teen at the time, he had sex on his mind and fantasized about her on the ride over to her house. When he arrived, he was confronted with two men in hoodies, as his phone rang. K. Dot’s mother left a voicemail; she called to check up on him and see when he’s returning. She was concerned about him messing around with “hoodrats” and it being a school-night. She tells him she needs to go to the county building to get food stamps while arguing with his father in the background.

“Bitch, Don’t Kill My Vibe” breaks from the narrative to reflect on Kendrick’s career. He is wary of new people in his life who may be trying to take advantage of him and his newfound fame. He analyzes staying true to himself without compromising his integrity to “co-sign what radio does.” A brief skit at the end resumes the narrative with Kendrick’s friends picking him up with “a pack of Blacks and a beat CD,” and telling him to get his freestyles ready.

Lamar raps from the perspective of a young K. Dot in “Backseat Freestyle.” He rhymes while riding with his friends “All my life/I want money and power/Respect my mind or die from lead shower.” The stigma of violence and materialism clearly has an influence on him. He boost to his friends about his “bitches… wifey, girlfriend, and mistress” and at one point in the song contorts his voice into an angry growl reminiscent of Eminem’s disturbing screams in tracks like “Kim.”

In “The Art of Peer Pressure,” Kendrick, who is usually sober and “a peacemaker,” lives life fast with “the homies” against his mother’s warning that “One day it’s gonna burn you out.” They drive around in a white Toyota listening to Jeezy’s first album. While driving through Westchester, they check out girls and later jump three guys wearing colors that they “didn’t like.” Lamar claims he “never was a gang banger” and “never been violent” until with “the homies.” He claims to be “usually a true firm believer of bad karma;” he and his friends “were trying to conquer the city with disobedience.” They burglarized a house that his friends been stalking out for 2 months. His mom called after they took off and he told her he was “kickin’ it.” In the next skit, K. Dot accidentally hits a laced blunt referred to as ‘The Shenanigans.’ They plan on dropping him off at the park where his mother’s van is so he can go visit Sherane, but also plan on meeting up again later that night around 10:30pm.

DJ Dahi samples Beach House’s “Silver Soul” in “Money Talks.” Kendrick references his adventures from earlier in the day, and mentions the lost of his Uncle Tony who was shot in his head twice. The song explores the desperation of many youth in the hood to make money, either to floss or plot an escape. Young K. Dot even slightly justifies why he and his friends robbed guys that looked like “an easy come up,” stating that he knew they came from ‘silver spoons.’ And although he and his friends dreamed of “living life like rappers do,” their daily reality was poverty. Young K. Dot feels that “money trees is the perfect place for shade.” In the next skit, his mother calls him telling him to bring the van back, stating she probably missed her appointment. His inebriated father is heard in the background in a sillier mood.

“Poetic Justice,” produced by Scoop DeVille, samples Janet Jackson’s “Anytime, Anyplace.” The song references the 1993 John Singleton film with the same name starring Jackson and Tupac Shakur. Following the narrative, it is presumably a track detailing his relationship with Sherane. The story resumes in the next skit with the flash-forward of K. Dot confronted by the two men in front of Sherane’s house.

In “Good Kid” he talks about getting jumped by those two men. He expresses his frustration with gang culture in LA and the Catch 22 of being ‘unaffiliated.’ He asks “But what am I supposed to do/When the topic is red or blue/And you understand that I ain’t/But know I’m accustomed to.” In the second verse his frustration turns to racial profiling from LAPD, their harassment, checking for tattoos and looking for excuses to add him to their gang files. Kendrick’s concerns with being a constant target is a reality that many young men face in the inner-city. In “m.A.A.d. city” he reiterates his vulnerability of being unaffiliated singing “If Pirus and Crips all got along/They’d probably gun me down by the end of this song/Seem like the whole city go against me/Every time I’m in the street I hear/’YAWK! YAWK! YAWK! YAWK!’” He also mentions seeing “a light-skinned nigga with his brains blown out” at a burger stand when he was 9 years old, as well as still being distressed about losing his cousin in 1994. The song transitions into a second segment in which K. Dot references Kanye’s “We Major” with the line “Projects torn up/gang signs get thrown up.” He also discussed how a laced blunt made him foam at the mouth and is the reason for why he “barely smoke now.” The second-half of the title tracks also features veteran Compton rapper MC Eiht.

The leading single from the album, “Swimming Pools (Drank),” provides a subtle criticism about escaping problems with alcoholism. Lamar rhymes “If I take another one down/I’m gonna drown in some poison… This how you capitalize/This is parental advice/Then apparently/I’m over influenced by what you are doin’.” He implies that the negative influences from elders can have an impact on younger generations. This is made when he mentions growing up around “people living their lives in bottles” and his grandfather’s “golden flask.” The skit at the end reveals that K. Dot’s friends retaliated against the men who jumped him, shooting at them. It ends with the revelation that Lamar’s attackers killed a brother of one of friends.

In a tragic turn in the story, “Sing About Me, I’m Dying of Thirst” continues after the death of a homey. The first verse discusses a true story about one of Kendrick’s Blood friends who lost his brother to gang violence. He asked Lamar to tell his story if he dies before his album is released; the gun-shots abruptly ending the verse is emblematic of his murder. The song serves as a tribute. The second verse tells another true story based on a reaction from Keisha’s sister (Lamar profiles the death of a young prostitute Keisha on the track “Keisha’s Song” on his previous album, Section 80). Despite her disapproval of Lamar sharing Keisha’s story and intimate details with the world, he proceeds to explicitly tell Keisha’s sister’s story from her perspective. In her voice he asks “How could you ever put her on blast and shit?” and “My sister died in vain/But what point are you trying to gain?” She warns him “If you have an album date/just make sure I’m not in the song/Cause I don’t need the attention/bring enough of that on my own.”
The song implies that Keisha’s sister is HIV positive in the line “Did I mention that I physically feel great/A doctor’s approval is a waste of time, I know I’m straight/I’ll probably live longer than you and never fade away,” and that she too is a sex worker. The verse ends with Lamar’s voice literally fading out. In the third verse, Kendrick elaborates why he told both stories and tries to defend why his intentions were good. “Dying of Thirst” further expresses his frustrations with violence in the inner-city. In the skit at the end of the track, an elderly woman dissuades K. Dot and his friend from retaliating and ask them to join her in prayer.

In “Real,” Lamar reflects on the flawed characters on the album and has a certain coming of age, discussing how they have love for their vices but not love for themselves. He redefines what it means to be “real” for himself asking “Should I hate street credibility I’m talkin’ about/Hatin’ all money, power, respect in my will/Or hatin’ the fact that none of that shit make me real.” His parents leave him with useful advice on his voicemail at the end of the song. His mother has practically given up on trying to get him to return with the vehicle. His father gives his condolences for the death of his friend and tells him “realness is God.”

“King Kendrick Lamar” steps to the mic in “Compton.” He closes the album with a Dr. Dre collaboration, representing their hometown. It is a testament of his success and evolution as man and artist. In “The Spiteful Chant” on Section 80, Lamar states “Everybody heard that I fuck with Dre/And they wanna tell me I made it/Nigga I ain’t made shit/If he gave me a handout/I’mma take his wrist and break it.” He wisely acknowledges that he’s capable of progressing his own career without being entirely dependent upon other established artists in the industry. Dr. Dre helped bring global recognition to Compton with N.W.A. back in the late ’80s. He made a tsunami-sized splash into the hip-hop pond with his solo release The Chronic in 1992. Dre also helped develop the careers of Snoop Dogg (of Long Beach), Eminem, 50 Cent, and The Game (also of Compton). Lamar is a part of a lineage of young black men telling their stories about growing up on the streets of South LA. The West Coast gangsta rap veterans have embraced him, passing on the torch to a rapper from a younger generation more analytical about the destructive nature of the culture of violence in the inner-city.

Lamar doesn’t simply glorify the violence, he explores the psychology of black youth in the hood , providing a critical defense for behavior and conditions often condemned by larger society. His argument is not one that is unique to his life alone; there are many other young people who grew up in South LA (or other inner-cities) who consider themselves “good kids,” but are capable of slipping down a troubled path with the wrong influences and decisions. Good kid, m.A.A.d. city isn’t just an album with exquisite production and a creative presentation, it resonates with young people who are in similar situations as K. Dot. It is a pivotal voice in post-Gen. X hip-hop. Another reason why Lamar’s sophomore LP is a success is because his rhyming skills are clearly superior to many of his Gen. Y peers. Laziness has consumed commercial hip-hop, with rappers putting in less and less effort with the art of lyricism. Lamar, like his predecessor Nas, is able to paint colorful realistic pictures of street tales in his songs; he lives up to his title as an artist. Besides the witty wordplay, good kid also excels because of the contributions of talented young producers (ie: Scoop Deville, Sounwave, and others) who took a sophisticated complex approach to creating music with Lamar. Some beats improve upon the trap music trend, while others provide throwbacks to ’90s hip-hop (gangsta rap and jazz-hop). The album manages to sound contemporary, retro, and futuristic all at the same time. Some music fans ask whether it’s too soon to call good kid, m.A.A.d city a classic; the ingredients for the recipe of a classic are all present on this album. Lamar is the most invigorating artist hip-hop has seen in years, and what’s most exciting is the fact that this is just the beginning of his career.

I also Screwed the album and decided to share:

http://atribecalledx.com/2012/10/29/kendrick-lamar-good-kid-m-a-a-d-city-screwed/

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602. "Finally stopped playing this at least once per day"
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But, as some people are beginning to get over it and sick of the skits/constant narrative, it still isn't bothering me. That being said, I've gotten to the point where I'm more or less picking and choosing my favorite tracks and skipping over a few (I usually start the album at "Bitch, Don't Kill My Vibe" and never, ever listen to "Real". Still, everything else sounds fresh and this is without a doubt my favorite album of the year with Nas and Brother Ali near by.

  

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603. "I'll just give my two cents:"
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I like the album, don't love it, but I still consider it a good album. The stuff that works the best for me are the tracks that directly relate to the "story" of the album: "Sherane," "Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe," "Money Trees," "Swimming Pools," and "Sing About Me." I also really, really like the second half of "M.A.A.D. City," with MC Eiht and the beat-switch/tribute to Ice Cube. Also, "Good Kid," "Compton," and "Black Boy Fly" are all solid too. While I don't mind the vocal-effect stuff, I'm not a huge fan of the hooks, and some of the beats aren't great either. Kendrick's obviously a very gifted lyricist, and is excellent at creating stories.

While it's a good album, I don't think it's a "genre-saving" album. Mostly because hip-hop doesn't need any saving. It's a perfectly fine debut album from an artist that has a shit ton of potential. If anything, I think this is a better version of what the Game was trying to accomplish with "The Documentary", with bringing "back" West Coast hip-hop to the mainstream.

So yeah, this isn't a top 10 album of the year for me. I'd comfortably put it in my top 20 or 25 though.

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604. "What 20 hip hop albums do you have ahead of this in 2012?"
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Out of curiosity.

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605. "I actually got a list on my home computer."
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From what I can remember (in no order):

Killer Mike
El-P
Ka
Oddisee
OC & Apollo Brown
Nas
Blu and Exile
the Self Sacriifce compilation
Large Professor
Ohno
Brother Ali
Man with the Iron Fists Soundtrack
Sean Born
Casual and J. Rawls
I Self Divine
Billy Woods
E-40 (comparable)
Stik Figa (comparable)

That's 18 that are either better or comparable, IMHO. And just to clarify, I said it could be in my top 20 when it's all said and done. Probably in the late teens.

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606. "To each his own I guess."
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The only ones I would is in the same league are Killer Mike, Ali, and Nas. I didn't much care for that Ka release, and the Oddisee record didn't catch me like it seemingly caught everyone else. That's me though. Still gotta check that OC & Apollo Brown.

Interesting that I Self Divine made your list though. I almost thought I was the only person on this site that heard that.

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619. "I'm pretty much with you"
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it's my #2, and it's not really all that close to me.


Top 5


1
R.A.P. Music
Killer Mike
R.A.P. Music (2012)

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Song Quality: 92%
Enjoyment: 4.5/5

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2
good kid, m.A.A.d city
Kendrick Lamar
good kid, m.A.A.d city (2012)

Overall: 8.95/10
Song Quality: 88 - 90%
Enjoyment: 4.5/5

Review: http://rateyourmusic.com/collection/Nodima/rating48610833

3
Life Is Good
Nas
Life Is Good (2012)

Overall: 8.28/10
Song Quality: 86%
Enjoyment: 4/5

Review: http://rateyourmusic.com/collection/Nodima/rating46492906

4
4eva N a Day
Big K.R.I.T.
4eva N a Day (2012)

Overall: 8.26/10
Song Quality: 85 - 86%
Enjoyment: 4/5

Review: http://rateyourmusic.com/collection/Nodima/rating43738706

5
Cigarette Boats
Curren$y & Harry Fraud
Cigarette Boats (2012)

Overall: 8.23/10
Song Quality: 84 - 85%
Enjoyment: 4/5

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611. "I think you decided to name every hip hop record you've heard this year"
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on some contrarian shit.

come on, b.

this isn't "genre-saving," but it's definitely a top 3 hip hop record this year.

  

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614. "Saying its top 3 is more absurd than saying its top 20. "
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>on some contrarian shit.
>
>come on, b.
>
>this isn't "genre-saving," but it's definitely a top 3 hip hop
>record this year.

Its not anywhere close to top 3.


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616. "k"
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691. "Agreed. It's 1 and that's it."
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Nothing else comes CLOSE.

  

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615. "Honestly, that's probably not even a third of the hip-hop albums..."
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...that I've heard this year.

But seriously, I like what I like, and I unapologetically prefer a certain type of sound: boom-bap type shit. And most of the albums on that list fit into that category. That doesn't mean I wanted/expected GKMC to have that type of sound, or that I downgraded the album because Apollo Brown or Large Pro didn't do the beats. It's just that right now, I prefer most of the albums on that list to GKMC (a couple of them are comparable). I've never been contrarian on here.

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617. "Respect"
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>...that I've heard this year.
>
>But seriously, I like what I like, and I unapologetically
>prefer a certain type of sound: boom-bap type shit. And most
>of the albums on that list fit into that category. That does
>mean I wanted/expected GKMC to have that type of sound, or
>that I downgraded because Apollo Brown or Large Pro didn't do
>that, I just that right now, I prefer most of the albums on
>that list to GKMC (a couple of them are comparable). I've
>never been contrarian on here.

  

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608. "alot of ppl have been complaining about the voice effect stuff"
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it's hit or miss with me
but i think it's a good idea for HIM because of the nature of his voice
sometimes that shit was sound madlib'ish though

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609. "RE: alot of ppl have been complaining about the voice effect stuff"
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613. "It lends to the album aging very poorly. Its too gimmicky. "
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>it's hit or miss with me
>but i think it's a good idea for HIM because of the nature of
>his voice

I agree with this. His normal voice is kind of
annoying and so I see the motivation to change up

>sometimes that shit was sound madlib'ish though

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621. ""good kid, m.A.A.d city" To Debut At #2 With 240,000 Sold "
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http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.21703/title.kendrick-lamars-good-kid-maad-city-to-debut-at-2-with-240000-sold

Didn't O_E say it'd only do what Lasers did, or worse? Lasers did 204K.

This is a great look. Glad people really made a point to support w/their loot and not just w/hype.

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622. "RE: "good kid, m.A.A.d city" To Debut At #2 With 240,000 Sold "
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Impressive numbers for that kid...The intriguing part is those numbers came mostly off word of mouth and download chatter...It's going to be interesting to what happens when they release that "Poetic Justice" single and video...

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623. "Drake did 450,000 in his debut."
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*cues onslaught of EXCUSES*




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624. "lmaooooooooooo"
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First, you said he wouldn't outsell Lasers.

But now, since he easily outsold Lasers while actually making the album he wanted to make, you talk about Drake selling more.

lmao, got it

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626. "Bwahahah ^LAAAAME excuse #1. Keep them coming"
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>First, you said he wouldn't outsell Lasers.
>
>But now, since he easily outsold Lasers while actually making
>the album he wanted to make, you talk about Drake selling
>more.

Bwahahaah @ "actually making the album he wanted to make"

DRAKE almost DOUBLED KENDRICK LAMAR UP, doggie

And 'Lasers' did 200,000 with absolutely
NO SUPPORT from bloggers, backpackers, the internet or art
critics...the *artist* didn't even support it.....to be
honest, Kendrick's album should have done 350-400...it
had EVERYTHING going for it:

-artsy fartsies

-old heads

-tons of buzz

-tons of promotion

To only do 240 is a let down

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628. "lol, unbelievable n/m"
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629. "Chill with the blatant trolling, dog...U better than that..."
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>And 'Lasers' did 200,000 with absolutely
>NO SUPPORT from bloggers, backpackers, the internet or art
>critics...


This is not true....Lupe was still a co-signed figure with bloggers during Lasers...He was still an Internet darling-meets-controversial figure...Chill with the revisionist history...


>the *artist* didn't even support it.....to be
>honest, Kendrick's album should have done 350-400...it
>had EVERYTHING going for it:


What does this have to do with other artists? That's on Lupe, no?



>-artsy fartsies

>-old heads
>
>-tons of buzz
>
>-tons of promotion


The promotion wasn't as huge as you think it was....The promotion came from the buzz of the actual album...It came from the fans on the Internet...Not from Interscope...They are still riding on the first single/video ("Swimming Pools")which was dropped a while ago...This buzz has been very organic...


>To only do 240 is a let down

They were originally aiming for 150 K from what I was told by some folks at the label before the release....No one thought this kid was going to do over 240....You are trolling something hard, here...

Listen...I can't claim to be a HUGE Lamar STAN...I only heard Section 8.0 a few months ago...Hell, when I first heard of dude, as I noted before, I thought he was an R&B singer...But I think the kid released the best hip-hop album of the year...Now that's just my opinion, and if you disagree that's all good as I've said countless times...

But for God sakes, stop moving the goalpost...A lot of counter punching from your original argument, which I had no beef with, btw...

You coming off as a bit disingenuous...And there's a lot that can be said about you, but I would never use that word until now...

Again, you want to say you find the album overrated, I dig that...I would disagree, but you wouldn't be in the wrong...

But all this other stuff?

Slow down, homie...


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631. "lol man, you know what time it is."
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He first says that he won't even outsell Lasers in its first week. Then when he does outsell Lasers, he gives reasons that Lasers didn't sell more, and says that Kendrick should've sold closer to what Drake sold. Despite the fact that Kendrick and Drake's careers and types of music are obviously completely different from each other.

Had he outsold Drake, he'd talk about Taylor Swift selling a million in her first week, lol.

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633. "lol at competing with drake (he'll never get anywhere close in sales #s)"
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don't move the goalposts tho

drake was the biggest newcomer in rap in at least the past 5 years
meanwhile kendrick still has people saying nobody listens to him but bloggers

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but keep doin your thang

  

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644. "Yeah, I figured the Drake point would get y'all mad. "
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Its TRUE though

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652. "You sound mad"
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625. "He also outsold J Cole..."
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I'm pretty surprised... And happy for Kendrick... Hopefully people keep buying... But that probably won't happen...

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627. "I had literally never heard of J.Cole when his album dropped. "
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I had heard about Kendrick for years. Not really a
great comparison

Drake is the better comparison, and Drake basically
doubled him up

I was expecting 300-350 at least

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630. "Man stop you never heard of cole when the album drop"
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you been on here since 2002 posting...and you ain't heard of J cole but you heard of Kendrick everywhere just take that L and walk away.

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636. "well, now you're just lying..."
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unless you never listened to Blueprint 3... or Kanye's GOOD Friday tracks...

But ok, lets pretend you never heard of J Cole... Now let me tell you why I'm surprised he outsold J Cole...

J Cole was/is Jay's protege... Signed to RocNation... I know, you'll counter this with Dre and Aftermath... Lets pretend that's the same... Even though Cole had a big feature on BP3 and on a GOOD Friday track... But sure, lets pretend...

Cole had a top 20 single before he released his album... That single was "Work Out"... It went platinum... He also released a hit song featuring Trey Songz before the album came out... He also had all the bloggers backing him... He sold 218k his first week out...

The comparison to Cole is a fair comparison... And really, I'm sure most people are a little surprised he outsold Cole... It's not a huge shock, but I'm sure Jay is wondering how this happened...


And no one expected Drake numbers... Drake had multiple top 10 singles under his belt by the time his album dropped... He.... I don't even know why I'm saying these things...

No one expected Drake numbers... No one...


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638. "I think he did better than J. Cole for several reasons."
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>The comparison to Cole is a fair comparison... And really, I'm
>sure most people are a little surprised he outsold Cole...
>It's not a huge shock, but I'm sure Jay is wondering how this
>happened...

This happened because Kendrick's album is better - a LOT better - and because he didn't suddenly drop a single like "Work Out" that made him seem like he was pandering to a new base of listeners. People knew off-rip that this was the album that Kendrick wanted to make, and they wanted to make a point to support it. Additionally, "Section.80" made listeners trust him with a retail release; many thought that was the best album of 2011. I'm not sure if Cole's fans (aside from his die-hards) thought that his tapes were the best of the year.

Kendrick also had a headlining tour with BET Music Matters, and I'm sure that helped.


>And no one expected Drake numbers... Drake had multiple top 10
>singles under his belt by the time his album dropped... He....
>I don't even know why I'm saying these things...
>
>No one expected Drake numbers... No one...
>
>
>EDIT: you're welcome to explain why Drake is all of a sudden a
>good comparison...

Not only did Drake have multiple top 10 singles under his belt, but he was also actively appearing on records with Lil Wayne, who was literally the biggest name in rap at the time. Kendrick's most notable cosigns are from legends who aren't making big moves musically anymore; Dre and Snoop are legends, but they're more figureheads than acts who are making huge musical headlines. Dre isn't dropping records, and Snoop's main thing now isn't music. Drake isn't only a hit-making artist, he also had the advantage of a built-in fan base from the last rapper (at the time at least, not sure if it's happened since) to go platinum in his first week with Tha Carter III.

But of course, O_E will say that the reasons we named are "excuses," lol.

It's obvious that to even make that comparison is trolling. To be real, the Lupe comparison was bad too, since one was on his third major label album and the other was on his first, and one had already dropped radio-ready shit.

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643. "^Copping pleas for the fact that Drake sold more. "
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LMAO @ "no one expected that"

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647. "^Copping please that Lupe sold less. n/m"
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648. "^^ Deliberately ignores everything that draws questions to his point"
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or motives.

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649. "No one cares that Drake sold more..."
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Can you figure out why??


Let me get this straight though... You said Kendrick wouldn't outsell Lasers (204k)?? He sells 242k... You then claim you thought he would sell 350-400k... And end with people thought he would do Drake numbers (450k)...

Okay player...

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669. "You got the Romney flop down man...you even know where"
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the goal post is anymore? You accuse people of doing it, but are doing it quite a bit with Kendrick. Changing your arguments, ignoring counter points- you are all over the place.

I'm with you 200% on the Lupe thing...we agree on the fact that many Lesson heads are clinging to dumb, dumb, dumb, dumb sh!t when it comes to him...

But you are going to ruin and lose the Lupe argument by putting him up against Kendrick.

You made the call it wouldn't outsell LASERS, and it did. Just take the L man you were wrong. It's okay, everyone is wrong sometimes.

You really going to win by brining in Emcee Nickelodean (or was it Disney? I forget) in for a sales comparison???? Cmon man.

No one is mad he didn't outsell Drake. Literally, no one. Drake is, by far, more of a pop star than Kendrick. Even Drake fans would admit this.

After praising the album, you are dissing the hooks...cmon man, did you hear FL 2? THAT is a collection of horrible hooks.

Yeah his voice can be rough. When I first started listening to him, it took some adjusting...now he has learned to have it work for him in my opinion.


Bottom line- this is an excellent album, getting quite a bit of universal praise. I would say its the best major labor debut in some time...I'd have to give it more though to pin it down exactly.

This is probably AOTY to many, and most likely to me too...at the very least up there with Killer Mike, Nas, and El P.

You loved it at first, now you don't...okay, cool. But now you are dragging Drake's numbers into it? I just don't get it.

Its good to call this place out on things, but if you are contrarian all the time just for the love of the game....and refuse to just admit reality sometimes...you lose more and more cred each time.

And naw I'm not mad, just would be refreshing to see you be a man about things sometimes.

  

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677. "He stopped responding to these posts..."
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So I'm pretty sure he knows what time it is. He didn't actually admit he was trolling, but he stopped wasting time in this thread - and that's all I can really ask for.

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682. "Lulz. You miss the boat every time. "
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My point about Lasers was that:

a) it wasn't a great album and had ALL negative press from
bloggers

b) The artist didn't even like it

c) It had little profanity and ignorant nigga shit

And it STILL did > 200K

That was my point.

Kendrick Lamar had a arthouse and blogger consensus,
"classic" status, enthusiasm from the artistic and
the support of multiple legends and *still* did
Lasers numbers and NOT Drake numbers.

For that reason, I consider Kendrick's sales to be
disappointing. I expected Drake numbers.



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683. "lol, all right homie n/m"
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680. "great numbers for kendrick"
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esp considering how very few albums actually sell.

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632. "Only thing I don't like...Why's his voice cracking thru-out album?"
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637. "pretty sure that's on purpose"
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and i don't know i guess he is just trying to sound different. not sure how i feel about it.

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635. "Why the hell are people trippin on his voice?"
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That's one of the most endearing things about Kendrick man. His voice makes him even more unique to me. He's also really good at changin up his inflections and cadence. Plus he tends to spit in two very distinct styles depending onthe subject matter.

  

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639. "He got that &quot;Eminem flow&quot;"
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his voice is cool, i just think it's odd his voice is cracking on his major album debut. it's a very solid album...lot of young jeezy references, too.

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640. "Not everything needs to sound super polished...."
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I like that he goes in and his voice cracks......on Heart pt. 2 that dude was spittin and his shit was crackin and breakin but he was goin in. It's real shit.

  

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653. "Oh and he sounds like...Frank Ocean to me, honestly"
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hear: opening verse on Frank's "Thinking of You"

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641. "He has a terrible rapping voice"
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like it's really bad.

I remember when I first heard about him and span Section 80 for the first time I lol'ed like wtf is this nigga 12?

Took me about 2 months of playing the LP every once in a while to finally "get over" his voice.

You really have to make yourself get use to his voice.

Which really isn't good, but w/e.

Not gonna say I "made" myself like him...... but..... you know... I kinda did lol.

So when people say his voice is annoying I understand cause at first he was like un-listenable lol

it really took a lot for me to build up my tolerance for his voice.

He's gotta be the most skilled rapper, with the worse voice ever.

People say Lupe, and Q-Tip have bad voices -> I think they both have good voices especially Q-Tip, but if they have "bad" voices Kendricks on a whole nother level

different strokes for different folks though.

  

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645. "^Lock and archive after this truth. Good lord. "
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>like it's really bad.
>
>I remember when I first heard about him and span Section 80
>for the first time I lol'ed like wtf is this nigga 12?
>
>Took me about 2 months of playing the LP every once in a while
>to finally "get over" his voice.
>
>You really have to make yourself get use to his voice.
>
>Which really isn't good, but w/e.
>
>Not gonna say I "made" myself like him...... but..... you
>know... I kinda did lol.
>
>So when people say his voice is annoying I understand cause at
>first he was like un-listenable lol
>
>it really took a lot for me to build up my tolerance for his
>voice.
>
>He's gotta be the most skilled rapper, with the worse voice
>ever.
>
>People say Lupe, and Q-Tip have bad voices -> I think they
>both have good voices especially Q-Tip, but if they have "bad"
>voices Kendricks on a whole nother level
>
>different strokes for different folks though.


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646. "*Throws up hands*"
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I don't fuckin get it with this shit. I never had an issue with the dudes voice. It's who he is man. I jsut hear a hungry dude goin in. He's not tryin to be nobody but himself. And when you hear him, you know it's him.

It's funny u mention Q-Tip cause dudes used to say the same shit about him, and I didn't get it then.

The dude can spit. End of fuckin story. His flow is pretty impeccible and he taps into that real shit when he spits.

  

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650. "Oh no doubt he can rap"
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but I'm just saying be aware

many people, like me, hear his voice

and cringe lol

Like
if I had a friend who's voice sounded like his does
and he was with me
and I was conversing with females

I wouldn't allow him to speak

Maybe it's a west coast thing b/c around here that nigga would get clowned for opening his mouth lol.

No, he can't help the way his larynx operates, tough titty.




  

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681. "This is just a lie."
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You might not like the chorus of Sing About Me, but there's nothing wrong his rapping voice there.

This is that good trolling you doin', bro.

Nothing wrong with his voice on Good Kid either... or here
http://soundcloud.com/topdawgent/kendrick-lamar-the-jig-is-up
Plenty songs where he's rapping in a normal tone.
Sure, he switches his rapping voice at times, but to say he just has a terrible rapping voice overall? http://static.guim.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/pictures/2009/12/3/1259860285437/TROLLS---1992-001.jpg

  

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685. "lol it's a matter of opinion - YOU say it isn't a problem"
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the problem with his voice....

IS HIS VOICE lol

that's something he can't help.
*shrugs*


like I said I've gotten used to it,

but I'm not so blinded by my fandom to the point where I'm not willing to admit that his rapping voice is bad.

because it really is.

  

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642. "Nah, he's trying too hard. He need to just spit and do him. "
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>That's one of the most endearing things about Kendrick man.
>His voice makes him even more unique to me. He's also really
>good at changin up his inflections and cadence. Plus he tends
>to spit in two very distinct styles depending onthe subject
>matter.

He overdoes it and it ruins several songs.

He need to just spit

  

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651. "I'm not surprised by the voice criticism...."
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I don't mind his voice... I get caught off guard by some of the switch ups... But I don't mind it...

But I understand why some people would... I've introduced him to plenty of people who have had that complaint... Maybe I just got used to it early...

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654. "Sing About Me would be one of the greatest songs EVAH"
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if HE wasn't singing the chorus

(insert any typical R&B artist that usually sangs hooks on hip-hop tracks here)

would have made that song an ALL-TIMER

1st verse

from the viewpoint of the dude that got killed in the interlude

2nd verse

from the viewpoint of the sister of the girl from section.80

3rd verse

his response to them

damn near anybody else sangs that hook, and it would elevate that song to another level

with his nasal tone half singing

it's just a really good song

factor in a Dre co-sign

and it damn near pisses me off that they couldn't hear it

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657. "That's what made the album work for me...."
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Thu Nov-01-12 01:02 AM by blueeclipse

  

          

The fact that they didn't have "Insert R&B Chick/Dude" singin hooks all over this shit.

Just let Kendrick do him. I thought it turned out great. It woulda took me out of the song if some random ass person was singin on the track. It hits harder with Kendrick speakin those words.

Y'all are too focused on appeal and vanity and bullshit. Let it breathe. Let it be. It's good as it is man. I don;t get the over analyzing.

Just fuckin enjoy this shit and be glad that this talented dude is heading into his prime, and he's doing it his way. I really respect that, and becuase of that I'll gladly support him. I rarely buy newer artist on vinyl but I bought the shit out of this cause it's a true album.

  

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658. "show me where I said it wasn't good"
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every post I've said the album was REALLY good

that nasal shit gets on my f'n nerves

it's cool on bitch don't kill my vibe

but to keep doin' it

it gets f'n annoying

when I listen to Sing About Me

I hear an incredible MC

and a TERRIBLE singer

I would rather hear almost anybody else on that chorus

it's not about vanity, appeal, or whatever else you typed

it's about the quality of the song

which, IMO, his singing detracts from

you know, how MFers were critical of Dice gettin' all the hooks on the Roots' albums

sit down for a couple and let an actual sanger sang

it ain't complicated homie

it ain't rocket science

Kendrick can rap

let someone who can sang do that

.

Dre has Bilal connects...?

that's what I want to hear

a sanger sanging

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660. "^Why Kendrick Lamar has the worst fan base in music "
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>The fact that they didn't have "Insert R&B Chick/Dude" singin
>hooks all over this shit.
>
>Just let Kendrick do him. I thought it turned out great. It
>woulda took me out of the song if some random ass person was
>singin on the track. It hits harder with Kendrick speakin
>those words.
>
>Y'all are too focused on appeal and vanity and bullshit. Let
>it breathe. Let it be. It's good as it is man. I don;t get
>the over analyzing.
>
>Just fuckin enjoy this shit and be glad that this talented
>dude is heading into his prime, and he's doing it his way. I
>really respect that, and becuase of that I'll gladly support
>him. I rarely buy newer artist on vinyl but I bought the shit
>out of this cause it's a true album.

Dude, don't nobody care about none of that shit.

IT SOUNDS FUCKING ANNOYING

I don't care about who is "doing him" or what

It sounds annoying as shit

PERIOD.



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662. "I like his annoying voice."
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Then again I have a history of liking rappers with annoying voices. I like Mike D. I like Quas. I like Eazy. I like Devin the Dude when he does some of his goofy shit. I like Em and his accents. I liked Parliament tracks when they would bring in Lord Nose, come to think of it.

I get tired of dudes with voices that sound like they require an extra testicle to produce. It's cool, but I like hearing other types too. And sonically there's something appealing about a high-pitched MC; kind of rubs against the beat like a record scratch.

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663. "I totally agree with this..."
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>The fact that they didn't have "Insert R&B Chick/Dude" singin
>hooks all over this shit.

R&B hooks should be used sparingly or preferably not at all. And I like that the album is just a little left of center with the weird voices and the non-slick hooks.

  

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655. "I won't front, I hated his voice at first, too."
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Right before Section.80, people were propping him up and I thought that he could rap decently, but that his voice was unbearable.

Then I heard "The Ronald Reagan Era," and all was settled in my mind. I was a fan based on that.

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656. "RE: Why the hell are people trippin on his voice?"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2751614&mesg_id=2751614&page=

  

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661. "Because as a rapper, your voice is an integral part of your art, "
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The rest of that isht don't matter (to me; I gives a fck about his social interactions/sexual preference/fashion). But as a rapper, I have to listen to your voice to hear your art. I don't listen to Quasimoto, but I dig me some Madlib beats.

Same reason there aren't (many) ugly models.

Maybe after a lot of listening, I could get over it (I did with Eazy-E, but that was because I was able to get through it within the NWA group context, not by listening to solo Eazy records). Same reason I didn't buy Eminem's "Relapse" - even though there was some dope isht on there.

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659. "Because it matters"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GD8hhNtxPgs

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664. "Poetic Justice is the Mamacita of this album"
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Congrats to Kendrick on a dope album

I'm swapping Cartoons and Cereal for Poetic Justice tho!

Peace

  

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684. "Funny that it's a LOT of people's favorite song. So NOTHING near"
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667. "I agree with Tuesday Orbit"
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Amazing.

Nothing else to say.

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668. "I personally can't stop listening"
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Absolutely love every track on this shit! Def the greatest hip hop release of 2012.

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670. "Excellent album, Compton is a weak closer though"
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Almost doesn't feel complete...even Black Boy Fly at the end would have helped wrap up the experience.

This thing is in heavy rotation, he really delivered good for him.



Probably AOTY to me...I was worried he would KRIT it and throw up a brick on the debut...

Just realized if it ends up being AOTY for me that would be back to back years for Kendrick.


Where does he go after this??

  

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671. "DOES ANYONE KNOW WERE CARTOONS AND CEREAL GOES!!"
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I need this on here. I really hate to violate the sanctity of such a great album but I will never listen to it again if it is just some random song in my library unattached to any album.

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672. "as was said above"
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I think its cool to just compile all the stuff released Pre-Album that didn't make it into a lil Unreleased GKMC EP and thats it.

Way To Detailed Explanation Below:

The thing with hip hop albums is that singles don't have b-sides anymore, so they just leak everything before hand to test the waters to see if one of the "non-albums" songs can promote the album (a street single if you will), especially because they either don't fit into the concept of an album (West Side Right On Time (ft. Jeezy) , or samples can't get cleared (Cartoons & Cereal). Songs like The Recipe charted decently so they made the bonus cd and it kind of fit with the end of the album's story in a weird way.

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673. "lol @ ANYONE that has the gumption to pretend this shit aint dope"
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straight hate

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674. "<3"
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675. "RE: lol @ ANYONE that has the gumption to pretend this shit aint dope"
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I agree!

I think his voice is cool

  

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676. "yes."
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678. "the more I listen, the more I can't stop listening"
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I'm usually through with a new release a week after I cop due to overplay. Got dayum this shit gets better every time.



Only gripe with kendrick is that I haven't see any live performances that left me feeling ... anything. He is a studio musician. His rhymes schemes are just too intricate and he doesn't do much on stage to help convert that to the listener.

But again, amazing album front to back.

lurkin since 1999. werd.

  

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679. "I gotta disagree... The shows he was doing after OD came out..."
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were amazing... I saw him again right after Section80 came out too... Maybe because they were smaller shows... I don't know... But he had complete control over the crowd... Seeing the dude come right out and spit The Heart 2 is amazing... The first show was especially good though... Him and Ab-soul were on stage together a good amount of the time... They have good chemistry...

Maybe you're right though... His live show might not translate well to a larger audience/bigger venues... But then again, my said he saw him at Coachella and he killed it... He wasn't even a fan before then...

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722. "his live show is actually good, the youtube camera phone recordings"
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that are floating around are not and the Fallon appearance was kinda 'eh' for him though.

Having seen a couple club shows in person he certainly takes that aspect seriously & puts down a well-paced/thought-out show that features him actually managing to replicate the breakneck flow/vocal-tone switches he does on record.

I saw him the week GKMC came out at Nokia but also have seen him once back a year or two ago & once as a guest of Schoolboy Q's at smaller venues.

  

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686. "is nobody else feeling County Building Blues like I am?"
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probably should have saved it for the next album




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mic.tao.music@gmail.com

  

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689. "i LOVE it like most of the other bonus tracks...he should've saved"
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most of them for another album

  

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687. "THANK YOU WHOEVER DECIDED TO REMOVE GAGA!"
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Her version of Bitch Don't Kill My Vibe is so fucking terrible...


Can't believe people actually like this shit...

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688. "Yooooo Maad City goes so fucking hard in the party!"
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Shit!!

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690. "YO! Best Buy is gonna have the album for $5.99..."
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If you haven't bought it yet, but like it, you should support it...

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692. "The collection of angry stans and trolls is staggering"
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I like this album. I'm 25, and a hip hop album has been outside my grasp for a long ass time. Like I'll be real, this shit is right in my wheelhouse because this nigga is the same age as me, grew up in a similar ass area (i'm up the freeway from Compton and know the area well enough), and listened to the same damn albums I did growing up.

I damn near fell out at the E-40 reference because me and my niggas did that exact same shit before basketball games and shit, Coach would be telling us to turn that "dinosaur shit" off in the locker room.

All this critique about impact and voice and cadence and shit...my nigga, let that shit go. Another time maybe, but shit...just listen to the album. If you like it, cool, say why. If not, cool, say why.

We got niggas in here goin on about sales expectations and computations of moon cycles to try and attribute Ls. SMH @ OE in this thread especially with that Drake shit...man doggie that was classic Mitt in debate two fact check face.

  

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694. "RE: The collection of angry stans and trolls is staggering"
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>I like this album. I'm 25, and a hip hop album has been
>outside my grasp for a long ass time. Like I'll be real, this
>shit is right in my wheelhouse because this nigga is the same
>age as me, grew up in a similar ass area (i'm up the freeway
>from Compton and know the area well enough), and listened to
>the same damn albums I did growing up.
>
>I damn near fell out at the E-40 reference because me and my
>niggas did that exact same shit before basketball games and
>shit, Coach would be telling us to turn that "dinosaur shit"
>off in the locker room.
>
>All this critique about impact and voice and cadence and
>shit...my nigga, let that shit go. Another time maybe, but
>shit...just listen to the album. If you like it, cool, say
>why. If not, cool, say why.
>
>We got niggas in here goin on about sales expectations and
>computations of moon cycles to try and attribute Ls. SMH @ OE
>in this thread especially with that Drake shit...man doggie
>that was classic Mitt in debate two fact check face.

Yep....to all that...

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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695. "LMAO...you posting a month later. Who the fuck mad now? Bwwhaaha"
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This album is a dope coaster at this point

Not even fans are even listening to this, and its
sales are on a crash course to zero because nobody
cares

Not hating

Its a gimmicky album, very front loaded, sounds great

But the robotic voices wear thin and get boring

and Drake smashing him on the only real single is
very telling

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698. "You were less mad when you were posting about Macklemore"
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You should go back to that

  

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699. "damn homie you STILL upset at Macklemore? "
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Y'all are literally mad at posts I made months
ago

Sad



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700. "That reply..."
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"Flabby like Larry Holmes" - Chad Butler

You need to hit the troll gym.

  

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704. "Ummm YOU brought Macklemore up in a KL thread"
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Think about how pathetic that sounds

Yeah, sad


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712. "^^Caught in the Range Rover with Ma$e"
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701. "RE: LMAO...you posting a month later. Who the fuck mad now? Bwwhaaha"
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Damn dog? U still at it?

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702. "dude"
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>Not even fans are even listening to this, and its
>sales are on a crash course to zero because nobody
>cares

what fantasy world do you live in lol? Not even FANS are listening to this...really...not even FANS.....where do you get your statistics from exactly? Most of the FANS I have met have said this is his best project. I have come to the conclusion that you just invent shit to apply to your trolling agenda

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714. "RE: LMAO...you posting a month later. Who the fuck mad now? Bwwhaaha"
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Best part is when a nigga knows he's talking out his ass and keeps going.

I need that Denzel face right now...you know the one from Training Day. Don't disappoint us, keep that pandering to imaginary haters up and you might one day believe it.

I like the album, btw. Didn't at first listen, didn't really listen to s80, OD, or really anything despite my younger brother getting on me about listening..shoulda listened earlier.



>This album is a dope coaster at this point
>
>Not even fans are even listening to this, and its
>sales are on a crash course to zero because nobody
>cares
>
>Not hating
>
>Its a gimmicky album, very front loaded, sounds great
>
>But the robotic voices wear thin and get boring
>
>and Drake smashing him on the only real single is
>very telling
>
>----------------------------
>
>Young Broadway Star Urgently Needs a Bone Marrow Donor. Is it
>you? http://MatchShannon.com/
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
>
>
>
>
>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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696. "Orbit Established is why The Lesson sucks"
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he takes disingenuous to staggering levels

  

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697. "How's the new Mike G mixtape?"
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>he takes disingenuous to staggering levels




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703. "Yeah, he pretty much tried his hardest"
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to ruin this post/discussion lol

the inconsistency in his sales argument(why are we even talking about sales/popularity...lets talk about the music) is fucking hilarious/kinda sad

I'm still listening to this album though, dope shit

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706. "Nah, that I'm striking so many nerves shows I'm on to something"
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Nothing I say would matter if there wasn't some
truth to it

I have honest music opinions

I'm a big KL fan

Bigger than y'all actually

I'm just thoughtful and honest

Y'all are dumb and liars

Big difference


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707. "Yes O_E you are the only person who speaks his mind"
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in this entire forum, filled with a fuckton of people who argue and give opinions on music almost everytime they get on here. YOU are the chosen one. YOU are the ONLY one with a thoughtful and honest opinion


But unfortunately its not like that man

drakes album sales aren't going to make me...or any other person on this forum...like kendrick lamar's album more or less

I don't see how any of the things you have said in this thread makes you a bigger kendrick fan than me or anyone else who has bought/really likes this album

But its ok, if you want you can keep on living in that alternate world, the same one where kendrick lamar fans aren't young

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708. "I got people bringing up Macklemore, doggie. "
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Clearly I've struck a nerve

People are actually hurt and upset

Prolly cuz something I said is true

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711. "Homie, it's just"
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http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m67cfbb0vc1rnk57t.jpg

there isn't an end or beginning to this shit. an unmoveable force that delights in delusion, every forum needs one.

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721. "^^^^^"
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Don't get why every forum needs one, lol

But otherwise, agreed.

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709. "big KL fan? nooooope!"
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3 months ago you didn't know he'd ever had an album out. You figure out how to listen to music online yet?

http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2730488&mesg_id=2730488&listing_type=search#2730862

  

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715. "wow"
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718. "Ugh. I bought the album, unlike y'all downloading non-fans"
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I think he's talented and dropped a dope
album

Doesn't age well or make my top 20, though


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720. "I don't doubt that"
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Just checking your "I'm a bigger KL fan than y'all" angle before you try to run with it, because a few months ago you'd never even heard his music.

I bought the album as well. Makes my top 5, but I don't worry about all that extra nitpicky shit "it's not selling as much as Drake, voice changes, only artsy fartsy old heads hype it young cats don't, etc." I just listen to the music.

I bought Section.80 too, since we're getting cookies up in here for buying shit.

  

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713. "Time to start a new alias"
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This thread fucked up your whole game.

  

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705. "Well, this is still my hip hop AOTR"
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Tame Impala's new album might beat it for overall AOTR though

He should've ended the album with black boy fly and made compton a bonus track though

am i the only one who thinks that would've made more sense?

edit: also the mjb bonus track is kinda lame

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710. "It is. Only track from the proper album and bonus disc I don't like"
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>edit: also the mjb bonus track is kinda lame

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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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716. "reply 426 is why he's an awful person"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=5&topic_id=2749019&mode=full#2750849

  

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717. "Yeah, album didn't age well. Robotic voices grew thin. "
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And album has no depth, really.

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719. "Last week was the first time it really clicked with me"
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Really appreciated the album's vibe as a whole. Now I probably got it in my top 15 to 20 hip-hiop albums of the year (rather than 20 to 25). Nothing to be ashamed of.

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723. "DOPE Motion Graphic Animation For "Swimming Pools (Drank)""
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DOPE Motion Graphic Animation For "Swimming Pools" by Scott McPherson:

http://recordinglivefromsomewhere.com/2012/11/26/kendrick-lamar-swimming-pools-drank-motion-graphic-animation-by-scott-mcpherson/

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724. "Gold in 5 weeks!"
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https://twitter.com/dangerookipawaa/status/274737029412163585

Thats dope!


O_E will probably say this is proof only old heads like Kendrick because kids don't buy music...

and girls bought it for Drake's verse...

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725. "I think the fact that he has a lot of qualities that old heads"
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want the younger generation to be going nuts about is why they fuck with him...and its totally deserved cause Kendrick is dope as fuck....but if you notice old heads only really help with sales when artists with those qualities come around....it doesnt help that he has the appeal the younger generation likes as well...point being, im not surprised he did these numbers...are they OUTSTANDING?!?! no. not at all. he has a huge machine behind him. Jimmy and Interscope/Uni push anything super hard when its connected to Dre, esp since this is his first artist to push since Game, 50 and Em days. He didnt deliver Detox yet. So ummm this is a no brainer they were behind his project as much as they were.

Is he a superstar? no not at all. maybe in LA. but really guys need to stop thinking that LA is the end all be all. Or their block or city is the end all be all. The world is bigger than your block or city or coast.

Will he be a star? I dont see it in his future. But he's not going anywhere either. He'll have a great career.


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G_The_SP
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728. "RE: I think the fact that he has a lot of qualities that old heads"
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What, is this 1996 again? What's up with the West Coast hate?

Dude has a strong following globally. It's not just us thinking he's a superstar. The masses are just getting their first real taste of who he is. It takes time for an artist to establish himself sometimes.

BTW, I've never really heard anybody refer to him as a superstar. I have heard people refer to him as one of the most talented rappers from my generation, which isn't the same thing as being a superstar.

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726. "^^^ It's OFFICIAL in my book = CLASSIC"
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looking for some ignant shit for the 5 o'clock ride home

popped this album in

bouncing, rocking, etc... down the freeway

DOPE ALBUM

I was on the fence about going all in

mostly because MBDTF didn't hold up for me

but this album

this album here

yeah, this that shit

CLASSIC ALBUM

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the_time_is_when_god...lounge
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727. "yeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEP"
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