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20. "I don't see where any of this is in my post bro"
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Here's my post:

"or in some way rigidly sectioned off away from others, no.

In general, I'm fatigued and have very little compassion for most people refusing to get vaccinated. My general sentiment is, fuck em.

I'm also staunchly pro-labor. So this is a bit of a conundrum for me.

To that end, I'd rather see a genuine effort to accommodate people to work from home, since I think those who refuse to vaxx should stay the fuck home anyways."

I'm having a hard time reconciling your reply to my post, so if you can clarify the things I've said that lead to your response, i'd like to clear that up.

>It helps protect other workers. One's decision to not get
>vaxxed shouldn't put responsible workers at risk.

"reasonable accomodation" means, accommodate them in a way that doesn't put others at risk.

It absolutely doesn't mean that the unvaccinated worker should have to work with the vaccinated one.

>And, obviously, "work from home" is a huge privilege not
>everyone has. And those who are privileged shouldn't get
>extra benefits.

That's one solution. That doesn't mean that it will work for everyone.

But I also don't think it should just be, "fire everyone across the board". I think we should find a way to keep people employed.

Moreover, to be clear, this is just a spitball. Certainly, there would be holes to address, greater thought put into how that actually works.

But anyone with a job that can be accommodated, should be, IMO. In fact, I think that goes across the board. EVERYONE who can work from home, SHOULD have that option, with or without COVID.

I'm in favor of other changes too- for day work weeks, for example.

I think joblessness is too big a problem to throw out the proverbial baby with the bathwater, so this is by NO means a lifeline to antivaxx people, or antivaxx sentiments. I don't quite know how to solve that, and don't know that I could come up with a way.

But I do think we should keep as many people working as we can.

And I absolutely see a potential problem with not taking a hard line with these people. I generally don't like placating shit like that in any way.

This is why I mentioned that I am pro labor- because my thoughts on antivax people (again: FUCK EM is my stance)clashes with my pro-labor views on this issue.

And yes, that would come with a cost of workers who do jobs that cannot be reasonably accommodated.

>I see no conflict between pro-vax and pro-labor.

I'm not saying there is. Again, my general stance on antivaxx people is "fuck em".

>"Individual liberty" has been twisted over the decades to mean
>"I should be allowed to be a selfish, reckless asshole" and
>that isn't the jam.

I mean, I didn't take an "individual liberty" stance here. I'm firmly in the "antivaxxers can kick rocks" camp. But I don't think firing everyone who is is a viable across the board solution.

I think that would create significant economic problems.

>Get vaxxed to protect yourself, your fam, society, your
>customers, and yes...your fellow workers.

I am, as is my wife. I don't see anything in my OP that suggests that i'm ok with antivax people or even antivax sentiments.

  

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Do you think people should be fired for being unvaccinated? [View all] , PimpTrickGangstaClik, Tue Nov-16-21 11:25 AM
 
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Depends on the job. At the very least they should mask
Nov 16th 2021
1
Yup!
Nov 16th 2021
2
Not if reasonable accomodations can be made
Nov 16th 2021
3
Yes, the grocery store cashier SHOULD work from home
Nov 16th 2021
4
What do you think "reasonable accomodation" means?
Nov 16th 2021
6
      Who's being "reasonable here"?? NOT YOU
Nov 16th 2021
9
           No, you dumb fuck, you've got everything backward.
Nov 16th 2021
10
           ^^He's totally reasonable
Nov 16th 2021
12
                Show me one time where I've said this. One.
Nov 16th 2021
16
                     So did I say all this? Or no?
Nov 16th 2021
23
           Actually, I'll address this fuckshit on GP
Nov 16th 2021
13
                So you want to accommodate unreason-able reasons??
Nov 16th 2021
19
                     Walk that other shit back, then we'll talk
Nov 16th 2021
22
pro-vax is pro-labor though
Nov 16th 2021
14
     
I don't know if they 'should' but i don't have an issue with it
Nov 16th 2021
5
I think "can't" and "won't" are different categories
Nov 16th 2021
7
My company is doing so, in compliance with the Federal mandate
Nov 16th 2021
8
No - but I also don't think Biden's mandate is a "hard" mandate
Nov 16th 2021
11
It isn't, but the mandate I mentioned in my post above is separate
Nov 16th 2021
15
for sure:
Nov 16th 2021
24
      We won’t really know until January…
Nov 16th 2021
35
^^^ Consulted with Joe Rogan
Nov 16th 2021
18
Rogan? lol
Nov 16th 2021
25
Update: SC struck down the vax or test mandate for large private employe...
Jan 14th 2022
72
yes
Nov 16th 2021
17
fired? no. leave without pay? yes
Nov 16th 2021
21
only in the medical field
Nov 16th 2021
26
no option for "they should be shot"?
Nov 16th 2021
27
dunno but i love seeing cops quit over this
Nov 16th 2021
28
The ironic thing about cops & covid-vaccines
Nov 16th 2021
29
yup
Nov 16th 2021
31
      interesting that you bring up seatbelts
Nov 16th 2021
33
           yeah definite similarites
Nov 16th 2021
34
           Yeah that was my dad (retired firefighter) and also yes in
Nov 16th 2021
37
^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 16th 2021
30
      RE: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Nov 16th 2021
32
absolutely fucking not
Nov 16th 2021
36
In a global pandemic...yes
Nov 17th 2021
38
Lordt I just got my first "This is discrimination!" email.
Nov 17th 2021
39
copy/paste?
Nov 17th 2021
40
Nah but I will share my response.
Nov 17th 2021
48
      In regards to EEOC
Nov 17th 2021
49
           No, it would not fall under this description
Nov 18th 2021
57
           Word thanks
Nov 18th 2021
71
           Yeah vaccine status/test aren't genetic status or tests
Nov 18th 2021
59
lol been dealing with those for a couple of months now.
Nov 17th 2021
42
      Wow, homie came back under the banner of DEI
Nov 18th 2021
60
           Is he uhmmm...ahhh....
Nov 18th 2021
65
                You know what he is!!!! LOL.
Nov 18th 2021
66
                     lollllll
Nov 18th 2021
69
I hope the unvaccinated don’t mess this up for the rest of the world
Nov 17th 2021
41
Yes, with an exception for those that aren't medically cleared..
Nov 17th 2021
43
Yes but I don't consider it a firing, I consider it as the person quitti...
Nov 17th 2021
44
Well fucking said.
Nov 17th 2021
45
i thought you all were anti vax here
Nov 17th 2021
46
Of course. People get fired everyday for not following safety protocols.
Nov 17th 2021
47
Exceptionally uncomplicated.
Nov 17th 2021
50
Post ends here.
Nov 17th 2021
52
*applause*
Nov 17th 2021
54
Bad comparison. Helmets & seatbelts aren't injected into your
Jan 19th 2022
79
came in here in agreement with voting red but
Nov 17th 2021
51
Nope no proof vaccine stops infection or transmission
Nov 17th 2021
53
same statistics counting listens on your soundcloud?
Nov 18th 2021
55
it really is amazing seeing how blindly authoritarian Americans are
Nov 18th 2021
56
A vaccine's goal is to slow spread or stop worst case outcomes
Nov 18th 2021
58
Faux News & the repugnant party. That's how.
Nov 18th 2021
62
Deaths and Hospitalization. Speak to that. Do your facts speak to that?
Nov 18th 2021
61
Can you cite what you're referring to here?
Nov 18th 2021
63
woke, loud and wrong as always
Nov 18th 2021
64
You're fired (c)
Nov 18th 2021
68
Cite your sources.
Nov 18th 2021
70
Nobody has proven this statement wrong
Jan 19th 2022
73
      did anyone try? dude no one cares that you're wrong
Jan 19th 2022
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      Totally. They've just proven it stupid and irrelevant.
Jan 19th 2022
75
      I am genuinely curious
Jan 19th 2022
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      It's true. The vaccines don't prevent people from catching or spreading ...
Jan 19th 2022
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      Nope no proof helmets stop concussions.
Jan 19th 2022
78
OSHA is now suspending enforcement Biden's "mandate"
Nov 18th 2021
67
Yes…
Jan 19th 2022
80
My job is doing a Dwight Schrute-level shunning.
Jan 20th 2022
81
LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Jan 20th 2022
82

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