what i want to know is how are women treated in islam?


and if so (after your biased stupid answer)...how do you know?


the problem isnt the fact that muslim men treat women like garbage....MEN DO!!!...


lets contrast what islam says about women...how muslim men are SUPPOSED to treat women and how MOST do...then lets look into what the problem is......


in islam women (anisa)...have a whole chapter of the quran (a mighty long one might i add)...whereas men have 1 dedicated to them...women in islam were given the right to own property, CHOOSE who they marry, have an outside male protector in their marriage (a wali) to ensure their rights are being followed, women taught the deen (islam), ayesha (ra) was given the distinctive status after the death of the rasool (saw) or a mediator of the deen....when the men couldnt get it right..they went to her...even ibn umar (ra..called the faqi of the sahaba (companions) used t o visit her for advice...so much so, she mediated the first (and biggest) conflict the muslims had among themselves)

women can become sheykhs (sheykhas..like rabia (ra), nana asmau, and hafsa (who memorized the quran, and is the one who gave us the order in which we recite today)....women fought alongside men as water bearers, nurses, etc...and are allowed to fight given the lazy men are not able. women (mothers...umm) are the foundation of the community (ummat)...women can vote in a shurah (council)...sit in on a council (shurah)..women do NOT have to be circumcised (its an old african tradition actually..islam doesnt remove specifics in ones culture unless its in direct violation of the sunnah (tradition..which includes fiqh, usul, and all its branches)....women should not be locked up...women are given time to themselves when they are on their menses...the men are told not to harass them, dont look at them, and leave them alone....in other words no macking, no pimping...

hijab means protection, it was instrumented when the women were being raped and killed...its a marker so that people know who they are, and those who arent muslims were warned no to mess with them OR ELSE..and many times this was carried out...many scholors have cited that the downfall of any society begins with undermining its women....



now...thats not even nearly half or even a quarter of their rights (did i mention that a man cannot take the money they earn, but they can take ours?? oops ok)....on that note, i am not going to go into the fact that from from conception men and women are NOT the same...(XX VS XY)...that xx thing gives off estrogen, the xy thing gives off testosterone.....(this is informal, not scientific...because both have some of each hormone, and some are xxy etc..not the course of this discussion)....men for ages have misused women...muslims are NO EXCEPTION......if we would have been the exception, they allah would never have to warn us about it...estrogen does something to the female in the course of emotion (doubt me, go through menopause, or get hormone therapy)...testosterone does something on the almost other end of the spectrum (using estrogen as a point of reference) if you doubt me, hang out with a roider (steroid abuser)....because we are this way. doesnt make one better than the other...its a compliment...but being the stupid shaved monkeys we are, and not the ennobled human beings (those with iman) we exploit our various "advantages" (for lack of a better term)...so in HUMAN society men take their G.E.N.E.R.A.L. (REPEAT 3X)...physical "strengthabiliy" (made it up...webster's dictionary 2008...watch for it) over women and take advantage of them..........doesnt make it right...and men have been WARNED AGAINST THIS IN THE QURAN!!!...allah says that he has power over men, and he is watching us.....yet we still act up...men rape kill, murder, etc women, and only proper social order can curb it...because nothing can stop it..(unless you have a utopia in your back yard, or you live in platos world of forms)


i have seen non muslim men beat women (my mother)...i have men numerous women who were raped, and abused...NEVER FAIR...but (and here is the kicker)

TO LABEL IT AS A "MUSLIM" DISEASE IS THE MOST HALF TWISTED MONKEY-LICUOUS HALF WITTED PILE OF RHINO TURD I HAVE EVER HEARD....

its like saying white men are inherently racist...or black people are inherently stupid...hispanics are inherently lazy, and muslims are inherently violent....chinese are inherently smart, etc......its a throwback to the foolishness that got us here in the first place....hormones, surroundings, parents, social systems, etc all play a role in ones behavior...and women get locked up in germany....dont believe me, look it up...women get beaten here in america...america has more homicides than any other country (so americans are inherently barbaric?)...

in the end, i said a bunch of junk, and you dont have to listen...or even read it for all i care...and in the spirit of the new nazi-like moderation on the boards (we all dont have to agree, and isnt that whats good about us?...think about it) you can delete this, or ban me if you want......whatevea gets your goat.....just remember that if muslims are inherently abusive, then whites are inherently racist...and you can continue packing the snowball....

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