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89. "well consider this then"
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>
>well, i think that someone was me. and this is what i said:

Response: yeah that was you. hey how it going?
>
>the last couple of years folks tried to tell me all sorts of
>stuff about islam, from violent religion to anti-christs.
>i've always been telling them that we all believe in the
>same god and we all want to go to the same place and our
>religions don't really differ that much if you look at the
>''core message'', i.e. love/respect each other etc.

Response: thats just it, the God of Christianity and the God of the Quran are not the same. Hey try this, find at three verses in the Quran that says that Allah loves mankind. You are going to be hard pressed, their are not many at all.
>
>BUT i don't know, i'm thinking!
>i haven't read enough in the quran to really join a debate
>on this. all i know is from my muslim friends and a few
>quotes from the quran.

Response: Well, don't take your friends words or my words look for yourself. Don't be afraid to ask the tough questions.
>
>>i still would like a muslim to comment on this.

Response: Me too. Its been two days now.
>
>sadly no one really followed your example and REALLY started
>to build.
>i always hear muslims say islam is about peace and love but
>nobody backed it off with Allah's or Mohammed's words.
>bashing any religion should be a no no here but at the same
>time what's the point in saying ''what do you want to tell
>me about my religion?'' or ''who are you to school me on
>islam?''.
>if you know better, then please get the facts out there.

Response: Here is something else that I have been sitting on.

Hadith AL-Bukhari vol 4,124:

Allah's apostle said " I have been ordered to fight with the people till they say, " None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' and whoever says,'None has the right to be worshipped but Allah,' his life and property will be saved by me..."

Kind of hard to draw self defense from that.

or in the same hadith vol 9,45 says:

Whoever changed his Islamic religion, then kill him.
Now, thats something to think about.

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En arche en 'o logos, kai 'o logos en pros ton Theon, kai Theos en logos

  

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Muslim woman speaks out. [View all] , ya Setshego, Mon Nov-11-02 09:05 AM
 
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political opportunist
Nov 11th 2002
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convient way...
Nov 11th 2002
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RE: convient way...
Nov 11th 2002
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pathetic
Nov 11th 2002
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RE: convient way...
Nov 11th 2002
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      RE: convient way...
Nov 11th 2002
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      RE: convient way...
Nov 11th 2002
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      RE: convient way...
Nov 12th 2002
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           thanks for proving my point n/m
Nov 12th 2002
26
      RE: convient way...
Nov 12th 2002
33
      Very Beautifully Put!!
Nov 13th 2002
50
      thank u for that
Nov 14th 2002
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           RE: thank u for that
Nov 14th 2002
78
                point taken.
Nov 15th 2002
97
      a rare moment
Nov 14th 2002
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           YEAH!
Nov 14th 2002
69
                oh come on
Nov 14th 2002
71
                     the last thing i'll say
Nov 14th 2002
74
      RE: convient way...
Nov 11th 2002
8
      RE: convient way...
Nov 11th 2002
9
           RE: convient way...
Nov 11th 2002
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      Idiot...
Nov 11th 2002
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           RE: Idiot...
Nov 11th 2002
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           fucking CRAZY
Nov 12th 2002
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                uh-uh
Nov 12th 2002
29
                ..............!
Nov 13th 2002
35
                Alright, calm down
Nov 12th 2002
31
                Pimp-slapping hoes is a horrible act...
Nov 12th 2002
34
so are you
Nov 11th 2002
17
There's a fine line between Islam and culture....
Nov 11th 2002
10
Exactly!
Nov 11th 2002
12
RE: Exactly!
Nov 12th 2002
32
at times, this is how i feel
Nov 14th 2002
72
RE: There's a fine line between Islam and culture....
Nov 11th 2002
14
RE: There's a fine line between Islam and culture....
Nov 11th 2002
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on one hand
Nov 12th 2002
21
      Sad
Nov 12th 2002
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           HEY!!
Nov 12th 2002
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THIS MUSLIM WOMANS GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK UP
Nov 11th 2002
11
RE: THIS MUSLIM WOMANS GONNA HAVE TO SPEAK UP
Nov 12th 2002
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      how old is this friend of yours
Nov 13th 2002
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           she's 23
Nov 13th 2002
45
                she to damn old
Nov 13th 2002
47
islam grants secondary status to women
Nov 12th 2002
20
the more you look at it
Nov 12th 2002
23
RE: the more you look at it
Nov 12th 2002
27
how about this sura
Nov 13th 2002
36
      RE: how about this sura
Nov 13th 2002
44
           RE: how about this sura
Nov 13th 2002
46
                RE: how about this sura
Nov 13th 2002
49
                     you mean I only get to...
Nov 14th 2002
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                          RE: you mean I only get to...
Nov 14th 2002
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                          RE: you mean I only get to...
Nov 14th 2002
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                               RE: you mean I only get to...
Nov 14th 2002
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                                    RE: you mean I only get to...
Nov 14th 2002
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                          like you have ground to stand on
Nov 14th 2002
73
                               show me scripture
Nov 14th 2002
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                                    RE: show me scripture
Nov 14th 2002
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                                    i can admit
Nov 15th 2002
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                                         RE: i can admit
Nov 15th 2002
103
                                              oh come on now
Nov 16th 2002
109
                                                   RE: oh come on now
Nov 16th 2002
111
Makes you wonder?
Nov 12th 2002
30
      but baptist priest never said this
Nov 13th 2002
37
      Alright, now tell me...
Nov 13th 2002
40
           RE: Alright, now tell me...
Nov 13th 2002
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                Response
Nov 13th 2002
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                RE: Response
Nov 14th 2002
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                     All I have to say is
Nov 14th 2002
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                          and this is all you should say
Nov 14th 2002
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                               RE: and this is all you should say
Nov 14th 2002
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                                    RE: and this is all you should say
Nov 14th 2002
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                                    RE: and this is all you should say
Nov 15th 2002
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                                         RE: and this is all you should say
Nov 15th 2002
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                RE: Alright, now tell me...
Nov 14th 2002
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                RE: Alright, now tell me...
Nov 14th 2002
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                     RE: Alright, now tell me...
Nov 14th 2002
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                          RE: Alright, now tell me...
Nov 14th 2002
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                               Well let the games begin!!!
Nov 17th 2002
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                                    how do you want to do it
Nov 17th 2002
117
                                         RE: how do you want to do it
Nov 18th 2002
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                                              couple more question
Nov 18th 2002
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                                                   RE: couple more question
Nov 18th 2002
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                and if u know all that
Nov 14th 2002
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                     RE: and if u know all that
Nov 14th 2002
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                          I honestly think your the one that has the problem
Nov 14th 2002
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                          not really
Nov 15th 2002
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                          not my point.
Nov 15th 2002
95
                               RE: not my point.
Nov 15th 2002
104
                                    but you ADDED to that verse
Nov 16th 2002
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                                         RE: but you ADDED to that verse
Nov 16th 2002
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                                              RE: but you ADDED to that verse
Nov 16th 2002
113
      RE: Makes you wonder?
Nov 13th 2002
38
it's not just a "muslim" issue
Nov 13th 2002
42
ALL YALL TALK TO MUCH!!!
Nov 13th 2002
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RE: ALL YALL TALK TO MUCH!!!
Nov 13th 2002
48
      You're evil
Nov 14th 2002
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      ok I'll tone it down.
Nov 14th 2002
55
           RE: A SOMALI WOMEN EH....
Nov 14th 2002
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                actually I not tryin that hard
Nov 14th 2002
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                     RE: actually I not tryin that hard
Nov 14th 2002
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      do i question your understanding
Nov 14th 2002
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           RE: do i question your understanding
Nov 14th 2002
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                RE: do i question your understanding
Nov 15th 2002
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                     RE: dude's like this...
Nov 15th 2002
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                          it's driven out of insecurity n/m
Nov 15th 2002
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                          RE: it's driven out of insecurity n/m
Nov 15th 2002
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                          are ya'll calling me insecure??
Nov 15th 2002
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                          basically
Nov 15th 2002
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                          ok rex...i didnt want to do this..
Nov 15th 2002
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                               but what does the Quran say about
Nov 15th 2002
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                               why...?
Nov 15th 2002
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                               continued
Nov 15th 2002
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                                    ohh eff it u win...
Nov 15th 2002
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                                    RE: continued
Nov 15th 2002
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                                         RE: continued
Nov 16th 2002
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                                              RE: continued
Nov 16th 2002
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                                                   hand shake
Nov 17th 2002
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                                                        RE: hand shake
Nov 18th 2002
118
fuck her opponents! respect to a sister of resistance
Nov 15th 2002
99
Good point.
Nov 18th 2002
122

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