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I'll indulge you....
>1. Yes, some of the things >that Nas said were downright >ridiculous.
true, we sall agree. Nas steped outta pocket
>2. Someone said that Nas's career >has been over since "Illmatic." > The man has sold >2 mill with "It Was >Written", and "I Am..", around >1.3 with "Nastradamus", and "Stillmatic" >is in the Billboard's top >20, and has been there >since it's release. As >a matter of fact, "Illmatic" >JUST went platinum last YEAR! > He's not going anywhere.
i think people refer to his "career being over" as his street cred. notice how with every succedding album, his street cred has dropped a little more every album. and granted i thought nas was/is one of the greatest...but
>3. To the people that said >that Nas can take this >as a diss, congratulations..you are >among the reasonable ones. >It's not whether or not >The Roots MEANT this as >a diss, but it's how >it can be construed. >Alot of the best battles >in hip-hop history have come >off of misunderstandings. The >Roots may not have INTENDED >to make it come off >as a diss, but it >sure as hell looks like >it. So, they know >the rules of the game.
personally i saw this coming when quest said they were working together, before it even came on tv. anyone that knows the roots or has seen them live knows that htey flip beats during a set. this was the perfect chance to show what they do eveyr night on stage. hell when they did concerto of a desperato, they flipped the street dreams beat...its tradition to flip nas/primo beats. the only difference was it was in the middle of a battle, and they alied themselves....
>4. Nas isn't a "real" emcee? > That's gotdamn retarted. >The man is arguably the >most rounded and gifted rapper >in hip-hop today, INCLUDING Black >Thought. Besides, he exhibited >he can can make disses >with the best of them, >(Ether)
nas s a real emcee, but not a true battle emcee--before you scream ether, ask yourself. how? many battle ryhmes has mr jones written before this whole jay-z thing. other than small shots at mega, and innuendos at jay, what else....
>5. I get the impression that >some of you actually think >that Nas and Black Thought >are gonna meet up on >stage and battle this out. > If this is the >case, then I can gurantee >that you all have a >better shot of George Dubya >doing the wop during the >next State of the Union >Address. This will probably >be a studio "battle", because >rappers rarely freestyle battles anymore. > And give examples of >how Thought's lyrical supremacy would >"rip Nas a new asshole," >meaning type some text or >cite some songs. A >good diss/battle song isnt about >exasperating words or flows, it's >about EMBARRASING your opponent..the systematic >demise of your opponent.
listen to ALL of thoughts verses. clones for instance. listen AGAIN to the lyrics, would you want to be on the receiving end of that verse. 100% Dundee, Adreniline, Concerto of a Desperato...the list goes on
>6. Dice Raw?? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! >That was funny....
dice is ill, his album was just wack
>7. I have all of The >Root's albums, as well as >Nas's. Now, I want >you all to objectively take >a step back, and listen >to the lyrical content of >both Thought and Nas. >Who do you all REALLY >think is the better overall >emcee? Come on, you >all can tell the truth...Quest >aint gonna be mad, are >ya Quest? Sheeit, even HE >said that "Nas is god"
?uest gave nas props, but he also said nas sold his soul for dollars (check his review of i am). now i heard all of nas's product, 'cept stillmatic. nas is ill, he can weave beatiful street tapistries, but battle. BATTLE....nigga pleeeaaase (c) sho-nuff
as far as creativity, no one has touched dywm?!!!?!?!...bagpipes?! yup bagpipes?!!!
>8. Why can't you all be >fans of both? I >like Jay, Nas, AND The >Roots, and that's not gonna >change. It's kinda ho-like >to call for fans to >not like Nas anymore just >because he says something about >The Roots. As a >matter of fact, it's bordering >on groupieism! What part >of the game is THIS??
yeah happy for you, my illmatic is next to my resonable doubt, and in my lifetime. (i keep a special page for the roots though). i supported nas in the battle until i heard all of takeover. i was backing him when he did the original stillmatic, than i heard takeover and well.....it was true
>9. How is "Ether" wack?
ether is wack because took ONE verse to dismantle his ENTIRE CAREER. nas truned around and made THREE verses about Jay being gay and ugly?!! how does that add up. Takeover was better because it echoed what the streets have been saying for YEARS (remember the street cred thing). it didnt matter that it was jay saying it, though he made it witty as hell, somebody finally called nas on his bullshit. nas had been living on his lorrals for years behind illmatic, and somebody took him down.
ether WAS wack because when jay came with facts:
-you havent had a good (quality, sales dont mean shit) album in years
-oochie wally was your last song...shmea?!
nas came with emotions and kiddy shit:
-you're gay
-get off bigs dick
it just didnt add up. folks wanted nas to win 'casue the track was cool, and the vibe was mean, but when you strip it down...the disses held no weight.
Now the problem is, what will 'riq say in response. jay has already called him out on his career, and to follow siut would be wack. To follow with hyperbolic, "smack you with my microphone" type lyrics won't sway anyone but underground "true-hip-hop" fans. so what to do, what to do...
the only thing he can do. cal him on his contradictions and show the world hes a bigger hypocrit than KRS-ONE
aight thats enough i got work to do
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