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36. "RE: about Nas..."
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I'll indulge you....

>1. Yes, some of the things
>that Nas said were downright
>ridiculous.

true, we sall agree. Nas steped outta pocket

>2. Someone said that Nas's career
>has been over since "Illmatic."
> The man has sold
>2 mill with "It Was
>Written", and "I Am..", around
>1.3 with "Nastradamus", and "Stillmatic"
>is in the Billboard's top
>20, and has been there
>since it's release. As
>a matter of fact, "Illmatic"
>JUST went platinum last YEAR!
> He's not going anywhere.

i think people refer to his "career being over" as his street cred. notice how with every succedding album, his street cred has dropped a little more every album. and granted i thought nas was/is one of the greatest...but

>3. To the people that said
>that Nas can take this
>as a diss, congratulations..you are
>among the reasonable ones.
>It's not whether or not
>The Roots MEANT this as
>a diss, but it's how
>it can be construed.
>Alot of the best battles
>in hip-hop history have come
>off of misunderstandings. The
>Roots may not have INTENDED
>to make it come off
>as a diss, but it
>sure as hell looks like
>it. So, they know
>the rules of the game.

personally i saw this coming when quest said they were working together, before it even came on tv. anyone that knows the roots or has seen them live knows that htey flip beats during a set. this was the perfect chance to show what they do eveyr night on stage. hell when they did concerto of a desperato, they flipped the street dreams beat...its tradition to flip nas/primo beats. the only difference was it was in the middle of a battle, and they alied themselves....

>4. Nas isn't a "real" emcee?
> That's gotdamn retarted.
>The man is arguably the
>most rounded and gifted rapper
>in hip-hop today, INCLUDING Black
>Thought. Besides, he exhibited
>he can can make disses
>with the best of them,
>(Ether)

nas s a real emcee, but not a true battle emcee--before you scream ether, ask yourself. how? many battle ryhmes has mr jones written before this whole jay-z thing. other than small shots at mega, and innuendos at jay, what else....

>5. I get the impression that
>some of you actually think
>that Nas and Black Thought
>are gonna meet up on
>stage and battle this out.
> If this is the
>case, then I can gurantee
>that you all have a
>better shot of George Dubya
>doing the wop during the
>next State of the Union
>Address. This will probably
>be a studio "battle", because
>rappers rarely freestyle battles anymore.
> And give examples of
>how Thought's lyrical supremacy would
>"rip Nas a new asshole,"
>meaning type some text or
>cite some songs. A
>good diss/battle song isnt about
>exasperating words or flows, it's
>about EMBARRASING your opponent..the systematic
>demise of your opponent.

listen to ALL of thoughts verses. clones for instance. listen AGAIN to the lyrics, would you want to be on the receiving end of that verse. 100% Dundee, Adreniline, Concerto of a Desperato...the list goes on

>6. Dice Raw?? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
>That was funny....

dice is ill, his album was just wack

>7. I have all of The
>Root's albums, as well as
>Nas's. Now, I want
>you all to objectively take
>a step back, and listen
>to the lyrical content of
>both Thought and Nas.
>Who do you all REALLY
>think is the better overall
>emcee? Come on, you
>all can tell the truth...Quest
>aint gonna be mad, are
>ya Quest? Sheeit, even HE
>said that "Nas is god"

?uest gave nas props, but he also said nas sold his soul for dollars (check his review of i am). now i heard all of nas's product, 'cept stillmatic. nas is ill, he can weave beatiful street tapistries, but battle. BATTLE....nigga pleeeaaase (c) sho-nuff

as far as creativity, no one has touched dywm?!!!?!?!...bagpipes?! yup bagpipes?!!!

>8. Why can't you all be
>fans of both? I
>like Jay, Nas, AND The
>Roots, and that's not gonna
>change. It's kinda ho-like
>to call for fans to
>not like Nas anymore just
>because he says something about
>The Roots. As a
>matter of fact, it's bordering
>on groupieism! What part
>of the game is THIS??

yeah happy for you, my illmatic is next to my resonable doubt, and in my lifetime. (i keep a special page for the roots though). i supported nas in the battle until i heard all of takeover. i was backing him when he did the original stillmatic, than i heard takeover and well.....it was true

>9. How is "Ether" wack?

ether is wack because took ONE verse to dismantle his ENTIRE CAREER. nas truned around and made THREE verses about Jay being gay and ugly?!! how does that add up. Takeover was better because it echoed what the streets have been saying for YEARS (remember the street cred thing). it didnt matter that it was jay saying it, though he made it witty as hell, somebody finally called nas on his bullshit. nas had been living on his lorrals for years behind illmatic, and somebody took him down.

ether WAS wack because when jay came with facts:

-you havent had a good (quality, sales dont mean shit) album in years

-oochie wally was your last song...shmea?!

nas came with emotions and kiddy shit:

-you're gay

-get off bigs dick

it just didnt add up. folks wanted nas to win 'casue the track was cool, and the vibe was mean, but when you strip it down...the disses held no weight.

Now the problem is, what will 'riq say in response. jay has already called him out on his career, and to follow siut would be wack. To follow with hyperbolic, "smack you with my microphone" type lyrics won't sway anyone but underground "true-hip-hop" fans. so what to do, what to do...

the only thing he can do. cal him on his contradictions and show the world hes a bigger hypocrit than KRS-ONE

aight thats enough i got work to do


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about Nas... [View all] , BKyle, Mon Feb-04-02 02:54 PM
 
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RE: about Nas...
Feb 04th 2002
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RE: about Nas...I got you on that
Feb 04th 2002
2
RE: THOUGHT AINT SAYIN SHIT, CAUSE:
Feb 05th 2002
57
Dude....
Feb 04th 2002
8
wait wait wait....
Feb 04th 2002
3
knock ya self out...
Feb 04th 2002
5
      LOL
Feb 04th 2002
7
damn B
Feb 04th 2002
4
the thing is...
Feb 04th 2002
6
      RE: the thing is...
Feb 04th 2002
9
           RE: the thing is...
BootenLeeFonsworth
Feb 04th 2002
19
                RE: the thing is...
Feb 04th 2002
27
                oh joy (stimpy voice) n/m
Feb 05th 2002
42
Calm Down, Player.
Feb 04th 2002
10
RE: about Nas...
Feb 04th 2002
11
lol the shoe incident
Feb 04th 2002
14
FUCK THAT....
Feb 04th 2002
12
Give me my mind back!!n/m
Feb 04th 2002
28
had love for that cat
Feb 04th 2002
13
Oh Please.
Feb 04th 2002
16
U knead spel chek
Feb 04th 2002
23
RE: about Nas...
lexblaque
Feb 04th 2002
15
RE: about Nas...
Feb 06th 2002
66
heheheheh.
Feb 04th 2002
17
RE: about Nas...
BootenLeeFonsworth
Feb 04th 2002
18
RE: about Nas...
BootenLeeFonsworth
Feb 04th 2002
20
      you're a bitch
Feb 04th 2002
21
      RE: you're a bitch
BootenLeeFonsworth
Feb 04th 2002
22
           hmm
Feb 04th 2002
24
           RE: you're a bitch...ass
Feb 04th 2002
26
      RE: about Nas...
Feb 04th 2002
30
          
           Basically
Feb 05th 2002
38
           RE: about Nas...
Feb 05th 2002
40
           RE: about Nas...
Feb 05th 2002
51
           when its all said and done...i just didnt like ether
Feb 05th 2002
54
           RE: about Nas...
Feb 05th 2002
60
           FINALLY THE TRUTH IS WRITTEN
Feb 05th 2002
45
brian?
Vinegar
Feb 04th 2002
25
son....
Feb 04th 2002
29
RE: about Nas...
Feb 04th 2002
31
whut a fuckin idiot!!!!!!
Feb 05th 2002
34
lol
Feb 05th 2002
64
      RE: lol
Feb 06th 2002
67
bkyle for superstar
Feb 05th 2002
32
Not that it really fucking...
Feb 05th 2002
33
RE: about Nas...
BootenLeeFonsworth
Feb 05th 2002
35
such obscene finger jestures....
Feb 05th 2002
39
big brother almighty!
Vinegar
Feb 05th 2002
49
RE: about Nas...
Feb 05th 2002
37
RE: about Nas...
Kwamology
Feb 05th 2002
46
      RE: about Nas...
Feb 05th 2002
59
BKyle = Word the f**k up!
Feb 05th 2002
41
RE: BKyle = Word the f**k up!
Feb 05th 2002
53
Who's the man?
Feb 05th 2002
43
RE: Who's the man?
Feb 05th 2002
44
I still like Nas and The Roots
Feb 05th 2002
47
RE: I still like Nas and The Roots
Feb 05th 2002
48
      Nas, Roots, beef, chicken, pork, and fish
Feb 05th 2002
50
           if that all he needs
Feb 05th 2002
52
           RE: Nas, Roots, beef, chicken, pork, and fish
Feb 06th 2002
72
Roots are just as fake
Feb 05th 2002
55
but did the music suffer...
Feb 05th 2002
56
I thought it suffered
Feb 05th 2002
58
      where i take issue
Feb 05th 2002
61
           RE: where i take issue
Feb 05th 2002
62
           RE: where i take issue
Feb 06th 2002
74
           aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah
Feb 05th 2002
63
                um, okay.
Feb 06th 2002
73
RE: Roots are just as fake
Feb 06th 2002
71
mY ? is..........
Feb 06th 2002
65
RE: about Nas...
Feb 06th 2002
68
this is the dumbest shit
Feb 06th 2002
69
RE: this is the dumbest shit
Feb 06th 2002
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