his Gofundme is also on the verge of being shuttered.

How many people believed in The Great Pumpkin of King Kong Konsciousness? Show of hands.

Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

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i thought that was a lie too like damn near everything else.

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http://atlantablackstar.com/2017/12/22/dr-umar-johnson-ordered-stand-trial-accuses-state-trying-strip-psychology-credentials/

Dr. Umar Johnson Ordered to Stand Trial, Accuses State of Trying to Strip His ‘Psychology Credentials’
By Tanasia Kenney - December 22, 20170183


Umar Johnson
Dr. Umar Johnson is accused of falsely presenting himself as a psychologist without the proper credentials.
Author and Pan-Afrikan psychologist Dr. Umar Johnson has reportedly been called to stand trial before the Pennsylvania State Board of Psychology amid concerns over his credentials as a psychologist and efforts to fund a new residential academy for Black boys.

In a Twitter post Thursday, Dec. 21, Johnson shared a screenshot of the notice from the Department of State petitioning him to court for a hearing, Jan. 8, 2018, for undisclosed reasons. The famed psychologist, who’s claimed familial ties to freedom fighter Frederick Douglass in the past, hinted that it might have something to do with the legitimacy of his school psychology license.

Johnson went on to blast those who are helping the “white man” plot his demise and potentially end his career.

“I’ve been ordered to stand trial in Harrisburg, Pa. … before the Board of Psychology to be stripped of my school psychology credentials as a result of constant complaints from some members of my race pleading to the white man via phone and mail, to bring an end to my profession,” he wrote.

DR.UMAR'S LAST STAND: THE FAREWELL TOUR….

A) Dr.Umar Returns to Chicago(IL): Tues Dec 26th@6pm(doors@4pm), "Harold Washington Cultural Center, 4701 S. Martin Luther https://t.co/OvDSb3xsYv, https://t.co/ThH3SyCEMN, 844-4DR-UMAR, https://t.co/sKXa8GLzFg pic.twitter.com/34CWFGh8YB

— Dr. Umar Johnson (@DrUmarJohnson) December 21, 2017

A notice from the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania obtained by Atlanta Black Star accuses Johnson of presenting himself as a psychologist without the proper credentials, indicating that he’s never held an authorization to practice a profession/occupation from the state’s psychology board. Moreover, the notice states that Johnson doesn’t have a proper license to practice as a psychologist in the state.

Johnson must now prove to the board that he is, in fact, a certified psych professional — or risk losing his permit to practice altogether. He also faces civil penalties of about $10,000 for each alleged violation and could even incur the costs of an investigation into the matter, according to the notice warning of possible disciplinary action.



Johnson, who specializes in working with parents of Black children diagnosed with special needs or behavioral issues, has since responded to the complaints and maintained that he is a certified school psychologist, despite the allegations levied against him.

“I am, and have been for the past 16 years, since Spring 2001, a Commonwealth of Pennsylvania Certified School Psychologist,” he penned in a letter to the state dated Aug. 25, 2017. “I’ve also been a Nationally Certified School Psychologist (NCSP), a credential I voluntarily chose not to renew, as I didn’t feel the organization did enough to prevent the over-identification and placement of African-American boys into special education programs.”

“Contrary to the allegations made against me, I have never held myself out as anything other than a Certified School Psychologist and Doctor of Clinical Psychology,” he added. ” … It’s my hope that these charges being brought against me are not politically motivated out of racial bias or discrimination due to my political views, school advocacy efforts in support of Black parents, and/or community activist work that I conduct on behalf of the national African-American community.”

Johnson’s notice to appear in court also comes amid recent suspicions over his efforts to transform one of two historically Black institutions into the Frederick Douglass and Marcus Garvey RBG International Leadership Academy for Black Boys, a private K-12 academy for Black males. However, speculative reports about where funds donated for the project are actually going have raised concerns among supporters, leaving many to wonder if the project will ever come to fruition.

So far, a GoFundMe campaign dedicated to the cause has amassed just over $400,000 in donations since its launch in March 2015. A screenshot posted to Johnson’s Twitter page Thursday showed that the crowdfunding company’s had concerns about the campaign as well and threatened to shut down Johnson’s account if he failed to respond to them within 48 hours.

Dr.Umar Returns to Atlanta(GA): Thursday December 28th@6pm(doors@4pm), "399 Years Later" Shrine of the Black Madonna, 946 Ralph David Abernathy Blvd, https://t.co/iC1BPjWSkO, 844-4DR-UMAR, https://t.co/oyaPjsVuOe, https://t.co/ThH3SyCEMN pic.twitter.com/uPVm2Ldi0C

— Dr. Umar Johnson (@DrUmarJohnson) December 21, 2017

“Sometimes I ask myself why did I start this campaign,” Johnson wrote. “I’m ready to return all the donations and move to Afrika. In an effort to give our boys a school they deserve, I’ve had countless coons consistently harass white people in the power structure.”

News of Johnson’s trouble with the board has garnered mixed reactions, from some in the Black community labeling him a fraud to others rallying those in the diaspora to throw their support behind him. The hashtag #UmarJohnsonDelicensingParty was even trending for a while.

Me, upon seeing that Umar Johnson is about to get collected by his state's psychology board, AND is about to lose his GoFundMe account: pic.twitter.com/gHMczZNqJO

— Marq (@_hoemo) December 22, 2017

Y’all hotep niggas let yourselves get scammed by Umar Johnson for years and STILL don’t realize that he’s been playing y’all. He’s been raising money for a school for YEARS with nothing to show for it

— Utsuro (@Madvillain179) December 22, 2017

#UmarJohnsonDelicensingParty
Date: Jan 8th 2018
Place: Anywhere Black folks are tired of fraud ass niggas
Time: Whenever he gets stripped of the ability to spread his BS
*Bring your refund forms for your donation to Umar's "school"*
*Free Hennyritas from 5-7pm*

— William Jamal Richardson (@DecolonialBlack) December 22, 2017

The fact that people (especially Black people) are celebrating the delicensing of Umar Johnson is sickening. You coons, coonettes, bed bucks, bed wenches, sambos, jigaboos, and any other foul name one can think of MUST be ELIMANTED from our community!!!!

— I'm Black & I Say So (@iamnotawino) December 22, 2017

Dr. Umar Johnson is an intelligent man and I see people, OUR PEOPLE happy he is going to lose his license. Simple ones.. how long will you love simplicity?

— aaliyah israel (@aaliyah_gad) December 22, 2017

The most disheartening thing about Black folks coming for @DrUmarJohnson us that not a single one of them has done the work that he’s done. I’m talking educationally or on the ground. The audacity… And for what? #UmarJohnsonDelicensingParty

— BC👨🏾‍💻 (@MrCraw4D) December 22, 2017

Dr. Johnson did not return requests for comment.

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I was onboard with his take down of the education system when it comes to black children

If it's the parents of black children he worked with complaining that's one thing but losing his license over the school fund or something else. Nah

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And even though I’m a little disappointed in how he’s carried himself at times I think they would be coming for him like this regardless

https://twitter.com/pentherapee/status/944255188470136832

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....what is his job again?


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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there's lots of things we can take issue and poke fun at, but we're not in a position to laugh at ourselves when it comes to building institutions for ourselves. And I say this as somebody that never bought what he was selling.

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on the true history of this country by Black men.

These are the same negros who parrot white
phrenologists of the 1800s with this Black
rapist, abuser, boogeyman narrative, largely
b/c they don't actually *know* that history.
Then they blame Black men for being targeted
for removal from society and "near or at the
bottom of every metric determining quality of
life" in a society with a school system that
targets Black male teachers for removal from
the classroom, leaving them at 2% of the
teaching population.
And that's just a couple of main points.

In short tho, these people work completely
in tandem with white supremacy. Of course
they would celebrate this.

And you're completely right. It's far from funny.

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no one clowns others who do this shit, just him, because he calls black people "trifling" when they give him 250K.

he was done for me when he asked for money with no real business plan. But using sacred African terms and turning them into insults is indefensible. We're the only people that do this and think it's funny or clever, and we clearly don't mind other people seeing us do it or join in on it.

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if cats don't like the flip of "Hotep" from a positive to a negative due to the people who have wielded it in the name of eating da poo poo

but someone who has met Umar on a few occasions and know people who have worked with him.

If the raising money for a school is a scam it will come to the light otherwise let him do him.

I don't get the side eye(except if you has a personal run in with him he can be a egomaniac).

Otherwise he is doing his job and shedding light on an issue that few is any speak about aka the slant in mental health with education and labeling Black folk ESPECIALLY BOYS learning disabled.

If they do take his credentials he can still open a school.

OTHERWISE I DON'T CARE.

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hasn't a chance in MAINSTREAM SOCIETY.




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>hasn't a chance in MAINSTREAM SOCIETY.
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neither do the black masses

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but seeing that you defend him is not surprising

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and this is just one front of it.

sad part is so called middle class black folk really don't own much they just mainly have good jobs.

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to get the permit in the first place. HOW DID HE QUALIFY FOR A PERMIT IN THE FIRST PLACE?
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"I cannot see how nature could have created itself. Only a supernatural force that is outside of space and time could have done that. ~ Francis Collins

>to get the permit in the first place. HOW DID HE QUALIFY FOR
>A PERMIT IN THE FIRST PLACE?
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What ? You think he faked a degree ?

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I'm making the point that if he wasn't qualified he would have never gotten the permit to practice.


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his credentials now was it?

http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

especially pre-digital records

WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

Here is how (according to the root who spoke to the board)

-Failing to demonstrate the qualifications or standards for a license.

-Making misleading, deceptive, untrue or fraudulent representations in the practice of psychology.

-Practicing fraud or deceit in obtaining a license to practice psychology.

-Displaying gross incompetence, negligence or misconduct in carrying on the practice of psychology.

-Submitting a false or deceptive biennial registration to the board.

-Being convicted of a crime.

-Having a license to practice psychology suspended, revoked or refused, or receiving other disciplinary action by the proper psychology licensing authority of another state, territory or country.

-Being unable to practice psychology with reasonable skill and safety by reason of illness, drunkenness, excessive use of drugs, narcotics, chemicals or any other type of material, or as a result of any mental or physical condition.

-Violating a lawful regulation.

-Knowingly aiding, assisting, procuring or advising any unlicensed person to practice psychology.

-Committing immoral or unprofessional conduct.

-Soliciting any engagement to perform professional services by any direct, in-person or uninvited soliciting through the use of coercion, duress, compulsion, intimidation, threats, overreaching or harassing conduct.

Failing to perform any statutory obligation placed upon a licensed psychologist.
Intentionally submitting to any third-party payer a claim for a service or treatment that was not actually provided to a client.

Failing to maintain professional records in accordance with regulations prescribed by the board.

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Aside from the fact that you have consistently
devolved into an extremely immature enemy to
Black people when I used to have quite a bit
of respect for you, Claw...

Somehow, in your now illogical mind, the targeting
of a Black person by the white power structure
means that they are somehow full of smoke.

>How many people believed in The Great Pumpkin of King Kong
>Konsciousness?

And you say this because bourgeois negros trying
to please white folks and white folks themselves
are coming for him? Ah, so MLK and Malcolm X
were also "great pumpkins"... or at least that's
what you'd call them if they existed today. You'd
DEFINITELY call Garvey that after he was convicted
of "mail fraud." I mean, white folks said it, and
bourgeois negros didn't like him, so it must be true,
right?

Attorney Alton Maddox had his license taken, because
he was able to prove which WHITE police officers
raped Tawana Brawley, so does that mean he's a
"great pumpkin", because white folks were unhappy
with his actions and took his license? You gotta
realize how ridiculous your post sounds.

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for the love of his people. The crooked NY
system is STILL messing with him too.


>One of our great living warriors and he doesn't get the
>credit he deserves.

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>And you say this because bourgeois negros trying
>to please white folks and white folks themselves
>are coming for him? Ah, so MLK and Malcolm X
>were also "great pumpkins"... or at least that's
>what you'd call them if they existed today. You'd
>DEFINITELY call Garvey that after he was convicted
>of "mail fraud." I mean, white folks said it, and
>bourgeois negros didn't like him, so it must be true,
>right?

Evolve out of the whole "bourgeois negros trying to stomp anyone else down" viewpoint and see that there are NUMEROUS OTHERS who advocate for Black lives withOUT:

- swindling people via crowdfunding
- being a misogynist and homophobe
- being a hypocrite upon all of that

defending Poomar is the "he tried to buy NBC" defense.... he doesn't deserve comparison to Garvey, MLK, and Malcolm

this dude continually tries to paint himself as a savior while trying to rake over the most vulnerable members of society. he's Donald Trump in blackface

I feel like we should be a little more... selective in who we follow, but much like Trump and pretty much 60-65% of white folks, Black people too, can be sucked into the vortex of racial resentment. Even though from the black side it's 100% warranted and not imagined.

the further down the ladder you are, the more susceptible one can be to being lured in by the bombast and the bullshit.

I don't believe "the white man" is out to get Umar anymore than they are other black folks. Umar likely did one of the following: bullshit his way into a license, committed some sort of violation, or didn't continue education/certification like he's supposed to. that picture didn't even seem to be 100% forthcoming as to what was really going on.

real disappointing to see Killer Mike backing this dude, but then again, he's been a lil too close to the libertarian bros who ignore race in favor of class (in a way that is real disingenuous). we deserve better representatives

>Evolve out of the whole "bourgeois negros trying to stomp
>anyone else down" viewpoint


Just speaking on what's happening.
You evolve out of the whole "Black male privilege,
intersectional misinterpretation" mess tho, because
that is all very STATISTICALLY false.

Btw, your above statement is hilarious when you
also say:

>the further down the ladder you are, the more susceptible one
>can be to being lured in by the bombast and the bullshit.


"Down the ladder" huh? While the idea can be true,
it can also make people much more aware of the
reality of what it means to be Black... which is
yall bourgeois negros tend to be so out-of-touch
with the rest of Black society. People with less
are just as intelligent as the rest of us...
but to you, they're just poor, stupid souls who'll
follow anybody, huh? And you wonder why I call
out yall bourgeois negros.


>there are NUMEROUS
>OTHERS who advocate for Black lives withOUT:
>
>- swindling people via crowdfunding


How is he "swindling" people when he hasn't
met his target amount? That makes zero
sense, and is one of the most ridiculous
things yall are saying.
I can't argue with your other two accusations,
which is why the superfluous one is unnecessary.
The true ones just don't hold up very well for
the sort of attack yall want to wage, b/c yall
watch others do it every Sunday w/o protest.




>he doesn't deserve comparison to Garvey, MLK, and Malcolm
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He does when you attack him for one of the exact
same reasons. You warranted/facilitated the
comparison by calling him "great pumpkin" solely
because the white power structure if coming for him.
Like I said nigga, that shit sounds ridiculous.



>I feel like we should be a little more... selective in who we
>follow


I'm not sure what you're reading, but I don't think
anyone in here has said they "follow" him.


>Black people too, can be sucked into the vortex of
>racial resentment. Even though from the black side it's 100%
>warranted and not imagined.


Then wtf is your point? You're saying dumb
shit and trying to cover your ass at the same time.
Figure out which side of your mouth you wanna talk
out of dude.





>I don't believe "the white man" is out to get Umar anymore
>than they are other black folks.


If you truly believe that a Black man trying to
open THAT kind of independent African-centered
school for Black boys ISN'T going to be targeted
by the white power structure more than the average
Joe, your level of education and understanding about
the society you live in is very sub par.


>real disappointing to see Killer Mike backing this dude


Real disappointing to see you being so childish and
sheepish.


>we deserve better representatives


Then do a better job.

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i stole the money...but you know...until i reach the target goal...it's technically in limbo...

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

Very valid for those who donated to ask
where the money is going, but what is
the give that it's a scam at all?
Maybe you have some info on this that I don't.

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every ounce of scrutiny gets passed off as hate

every inquiry and request for transparency is like pulling shark teeth

if it looks and smells like bullshit...avoid avoid avoid bc it's likely bullshit

im not speaking definitively but waiting for proof of being scammed is a great way to end up being scammed lol

Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

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>im not speaking definitively


Yet you are speaking definitively.
You literally typed "I stole the money"
in reference to him reply 52. Now you
say you're not speaking definitively...
speaking of bullshit.

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>"Down the ladder" huh? While the idea can be true,
>it can also make people much more aware of the
>reality of what it means to be Black... which is
>yall bourgeois negros tend to be so out-of-touch
>with the rest of Black society. People with less
>are just as intelligent as the rest of us...
>but to you, they're just poor, stupid souls who'll
>follow anybody, huh? And you wonder why I call
>out yall bourgeois negros.

Never said that one's class or level of education was a barrier to being intelligent. There's a lot of dudes with degrees and titles that are super ignorant (like Poomar).

However, in lower economic classes (the areas Poomar is targeting), people are VERY vulnerable. it's easier to believe in someone who sells the dream of self-determination when you're not clouded by the illusion of having "made it"

(same strategy is used in a number of churches, esp. the prosperity preachers that Umar resembles)

>How is he "swindling" people when he hasn't
>met his target amount? That makes zero
>sense, and is one of the most ridiculous
>things yall are saying.
>I can't argue with your other two accusations,
>which is why the superfluous one is unnecessary.
>The true ones just don't hold up very well for
>the sort of attack yall want to wage, b/c yall
>watch others do it every Sunday w/o protest.

a dude who hasn't met his goals in crowd funding shouldn't go chastising his would-be donors as "trifling Black people", IMO

that sounds much like the "bourgeois Black person" with whom you seem to have problems.

after all this time (and money), there's been no sign of progress, no plan, just some "I'm gonna make a school for boys".

>He does when you attack him for one of the exact
>same reasons. You warranted/facilitated the
>comparison by calling him "great pumpkin" solely
>because the white power structure if coming for him.
>Like I said nigga, that shit sounds ridiculous.

he was the great pumpkin well before the white power structure allegedly started coming for him.

y'all act like this dude is being hamstrung by anyone but his own self.

>I'm not sure what you're reading, but I don't think
>anyone in here has said they "follow" him.

then why are you (and others) capin' for this fraudulent dude?


>Then wtf is your point? You're saying dumb
>shit and trying to cover your ass at the same time.
>Figure out which side of your mouth you wanna talk
>out of dude.

I'm speaking directly out of the front of my mouth, breh.

Why do y'all cape for a charlatan?
Because he's Black and "independent"?
Because he gets it right twice a day, like a broken clock?

>If you truly believe that a Black man trying to
>open THAT kind of independent African-centered
>school for Black boys ISN'T going to be targeted
>by the white power structure more than the average
>Joe, your level of education and understanding about
>the society you live in is very sub par.

I find the notion of Poomar being COINTELPRO'd when it's mostly black people calling him out highly dubious; outside of black people, this dude barely registers.


>Real disappointing to see you being so childish and
>sheepish.

LOL @ sheepish. dude. you ain't gotta be a "sheep" to not rock with this dude and his BS.

I'll be "childish" though, if that's what gets eyes over here. Poomar threw out his right to be treated fairly when he started that "trifling black people" shit and started hiding behind a wall of imagined persecution everytime he got caught out there.

>However, in lower economic classes (the areas Poomar is
>targeting), people are VERY vulnerable. it's easier to believe
>in someone who sells the dream of self-determination when
>you're not clouded by the illusion of having "made it"
>
>(same strategy is used in a number of churches, esp. the
>prosperity preachers that Umar resembles)


You're just throwing stuff at the wall, hoping
it sticks now. Mainly because prosperity preachers
claim that you'll be rich simply b/c you give your
money to them. Then you say Umar is "selling the
dream of self-determination." You're not even making
a logical comparison here.



>a dude who hasn't met his goals in crowd funding shouldn't go
>chastising his would-be donors as "trifling Black people",
>IMO


True.


>that sounds much like the "bourgeois Black person" with whom
>you seem to have problems.


To me, it just sounds childish... but you can
relate, as you just admitted that you have no
problem with being childish yourself, so you
don't really have room to judge there.



>after all this time (and money), there's been no sign of
>progress, no plan, just some "I'm gonna make a school for
>boys".


He has said what his plans are but also that
he stopped being so open about them after the
incident with the first building he planned to
buy. It's fine if you don't believe him, but
yall aren't simply saying you don't believe him.




>then why are you (and others) capin' for this fraudulent
>dude?



Understand this point thoroughly:
When you make false claims or say childish/unnecessary
stuff about someone, those who call you out or correct
you are not "caping." We are simply responding to your
ridiculousness. Someone being flawed or drawing your
suspicion is not a license to throw maturity to the
wind without criticism.
However, even if I *was* caping for ANY Black man,
it's very warranted with the over-the-top way we are
attacked from people like yourself, the media, and even
academies who claim that our high rates of death and
incarceration are somehow "privileges." Every other
week there's a blog bashing us, calling us terrorists
and rapists, yet it's considered acceptable gender theory
when it's nothing but white supremacist psuedo-science
recoded as such. So any time you wonder why anyone would
"cape" for a Black man, think of that.


>I find the notion of Poomar being COINTELPRO'd when it's
>mostly black people calling him out highly dubious


Of course you do, because you obviously don't understand
how current ideologies around Black men assist with stuff
like this as you buy into pop culture nonsense. He may
or may not be correct, but for you to see nothing wrong
with the way he's being referenced is very telling.


>>Real disappointing to see you being so childish and
>>sheepish.
>
>LOL @ sheepish. dude. you ain't gotta be a "sheep" to not rock
>with this dude


True, but you gotta be one to call him 'hotep',
"poomar", "great pumpkin" etc.


>I'll be "childish" though, if that's what gets eyes over here.

Ah, so this is about attention for you.
Carry on.

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what in pop culture says to me: "Dr. Poomar bad"

again, aside from Black people (mostly on Twitter), who is meme-ing up Dr. Poomar? is anyone talking about Dr. Poomar on TV that is mass-consumed?

this isn't a case of "self-hate"

I don't think his idea to open an independent school for Black people is bad.

I just think HE is bad. His world view, that is anti-woman and anti-gay is bad. he is not forthcoming about the work he does as a psychologist. not forthcoming about his business plan with the money he is crowdfunding. and wraps a whole lot of bullshit in language meant to address the kind of resentment that systematic and institutionalized oppression causes. (you know, kind of the other side of the Donald Trump coin).

and again, what in pop culture (which is pretty anti-woman and anti-gay, just on the low) says I should be against Umar?

if you separated HIM from the move to build an independent, crowd-funded school? this post wouldn't exist.

are on... and the white supremacist ethnologists before them.


>this isn't a case of "self-hate"


I'm not the one who said that.


>I don't think his idea to open an independent school for Black
>people is bad.
>
>I just think HE is bad. His world view, that is anti-woman and
>anti-gay is bad. he is not forthcoming about the work he does
>as a psychologist. not forthcoming about his business plan
>with the money he is crowdfunding.


And if you'd leave it that, you might have a
more mature and respectable argument.


>and wraps a whole lot of
>bullshit in language meant to address the kind of resentment
>that systematic and institutionalized oppression causes. (you
>know, kind of the other side of the Donald Trump coin).


That "other side of the Donald Trump" coin argument
isn't well thought-out. I'll allow you to marinate
on it some more.


>and again, what in pop culture (which is pretty anti-woman and
>anti-gay, just on the low) says I should be against Umar?


The pop culture critique was about the kind of
ideology that facilitates lopsided attacks on
so-called 'hotep' Black men... and that doesn't
elude you as much as you're pretending. I spoke
to the fact that the ideas accepted in academies
and popular blogs inform this kind of attack.
Start with the idea that Black men theorizing about
themselves isn't trusted while every other group
theorizes about themselves... included Black women.
Yet everyone else gets to call Black men savages
w/o correction. I see you on here cosigning this
kind of rhetoric, so it's not like you can hide
behind this ONLY being about Umar.


>if you separated HIM from the move to build an independent,
>crowd-funded school? this post wouldn't exist.


Nope, it wouldn't, but I'd still be discussing it,
and that's problematic in itself that yall don't
give two shits about Black boys on any other day.

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the post says Dr. Poomar, not "hotep dudes not named Dr. Poomar"

Regular working class folks from Philly have been saying Umar ain't shit for YEARS. Also, people who are local organizers in the UNIA, MOVE, and other well-known/respected groups have been saying dude is a problem. Even if he's being targeted by white folks, why should the community use resources to defend this horrible fool?

This conversation you're trying to ignite has already been had within the post. Read before you respond.
The very post you're responding to is clearly addressing my issue with the OP using an attack from the state as proof of any negative things stated about Umar. Given our history as Black people, we should be far beyond that (I'll get back to that in a second). Read carefully, because I'm beginning to question you're reading comprehension...
My problem isn't that people have a problem with Umar, per se. I've already stated that there are legit aspects about him and his approach that deserve critique (I've done so myself) in reply 117, but the evidence being presented in this very post is rumors from blogs, flat out lies about what he said or didn't say, OR (and this what I wanted to get back to) the fact that Umar is being used as a proxy by which to attack very legitimate truths simply because HE stated them (refer to Dr. Claw's pathetic lack of present and historical knowledge in reply 130. This is particular egregious and makes Claw and anyone who would believe his mess just as bad as he accuses Umar of being, if not worse). There's a difference in a valid critique and just attacking someone simply because they don't agree with your interpretation of intersectionality. Most of yall are doing the latter.

Beyond that, the only 'resource' being expended here is time and what little energy is takes to type some words, and my 'defense' is moreso of facts and Black men in general, both of which are being attacked in here by proxy... or hell just flat out in the case of reply 130 (again, this negro should be ashamed to even show his username for a few weeks after that).

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im surprised so many people still falling for the flim flam.

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Mar-A-Lago delenda est

into more money under the guise of "the white man is against me"

Ittapupu v. the state.

in seeing him torn down. Problematic or not...people are taking pleasure in watching his demise.

Call it what you will...this is some self hating shit. Y'all don't have to agree with me either. I'll stand alone on this shit.

I tried to stop there but I just can't. This is some fuckery.

Oprah and Serena can establish schools in South Africa and people applaud them. Why? Because they have the financial power to actually self fund that shit. They don't have to ask y'all for a dime, they can just bank on their earning potential and make the school. But they don't want to make the school in the states. Why? Because Y'ALL NIGGAZ WOULD DESTROY THEM 5 SECONDS AFTER THE SCHOOL WAS CREATED!

Oh....the school doesn't address this....they should have included this....anything, anywhere, anyway to discredit somebody who is actually trying to make a change.

Now....you name me someone that has funded some shit that hasn't pocketed some shit on their own. Not your pastor...not your politician....not your parents when you got birthday money and the lights was due....not ONE person.

You tell me how long it took Trump or any of these other "billionaires" to fund some for-profit hotel and all the hurdles they had to go to get that shit built.

But let a nigga go on Twitter and say some shit people don't like or, God forbid....have some human failings in this "24 Hour Information Cycle" society we in when niggaz can't unplug and always looking for shit....FOH.

Spelman couldn't be created today. FOH
Niggas would tear down Dubois and Booker T and ANY thinker, FOH.
Martin Luther King would be labeled an adulterer and run out of his cause. FOH
(and to head this off at the pass....no I'm not comparing Umar to none of them. This is principle. Name me one "thinker" we respect today and tell me they ain't taking arrows....shit....Coates is taking jealousy from OTHER supposed thinkers. FOH)

FOH FOH FOH.

Y'all can't be this stupid.

I'm not caping for dude at all...I honestly don't give a fuck about his leanings or shit he's said or the fact he has an ego or none of that shit.

I'm pissed at the hypocrisy of someone actually trying to navigate and do more than 99.9999% OF THE NIGGAZ TALKING SHIT and still having to swallow arrows.

Entire FOH family.

Ready your stones now....you know I'm spitting real shit so deal.

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