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"2020 NBA Finals: Miami Heat vs Los Angeles Lakers"


  

          

4 more wins.

Let's get it.



*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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Subject Author Message Date ID
Lakers in FIVE
Sep 28th 2020
1
Easier said than done but Miami is gonna have to legally beat AD up
Sep 28th 2020
2
Kelly O.. the shoulder snapper.
Sep 28th 2020
3
yeah. that's why i emphasized *legally*
Sep 28th 2020
4
The zone can help with that too.
Sep 29th 2020
7
      they not gonna out goon us either
Sep 29th 2020
8
           I agree with you.
Sep 29th 2020
16
Lakers in 6 but it’s gonna be TOUGH.
Sep 28th 2020
5
If the refs let the heat play, lakers will get cooked.
Sep 28th 2020
6
I've been underestimating Miami ALL SEASON LONG...
Sep 29th 2020
9
Lakers in 5 (I've had this on repeat since first round)
Sep 29th 2020
10
Solid breakdown...
Sep 29th 2020
13
they've managed his workload perfectly
Sep 29th 2020
14
this is a good summary of why i am ultra confident
Sep 29th 2020
15
Nice analysis here. Don't forget KCP
Sep 29th 2020
17
      idk about that
Sep 29th 2020
18
      not exactly.
Sep 29th 2020
19
           cgonz isn't wrong about his usage tho.
Sep 29th 2020
20
                I agree.
Sep 29th 2020
23
                Or maybe it’s because he is playing in a bubble.
Oct 02nd 2020
107
                     That's certainly a possibility.
Oct 02nd 2020
128
      ^^^
Oct 06th 2020
355
Go Heat!
Sep 29th 2020
11
Lakers 17th in year 17.
Sep 29th 2020
12
I will be mad as shit if the Lakers lose. But...
Sep 29th 2020
21
I'd LOVE for Spo to get a ring without Bron.
Sep 29th 2020
22
who are the haters? He's a really good coach who has proven
Sep 29th 2020
24
I think there are plenty that underrate him.
Sep 29th 2020
26
absolutely. actually as i read this post im listening to bomani
Sep 29th 2020
25
Ha this is true
Sep 30th 2020
32
agreed
Oct 01st 2020
91
Heat in 7: a scenario
Sep 30th 2020
27
LOL @ this pipe dream...
Sep 30th 2020
28
Its a scenario....they gotta play the games, right?
Sep 30th 2020
29
fool wrote an essay...
Sep 30th 2020
30
      You should take heed to the famous words of Winston Wolf
Sep 30th 2020
31
      Lol
Sep 30th 2020
33
i think the lakers are good for at least 2 clunkers.
Sep 30th 2020
36
      Welp, this all went up in smoke...gotta be healthy to pull it off.
Sep 30th 2020
81
           Oh, the irony...
Oct 01st 2020
82
Big Face Coffee time!!
Sep 30th 2020
34
lets eat!!!!!
Sep 30th 2020
35
i gotta say it again but the bubble broadcasts look amazing.
Sep 30th 2020
37
Just like that...j, j, just like that (c)
Sep 30th 2020
38
Bench stepped up and Bron got to do some processing. Let’s get it
Sep 30th 2020
39
31-28, Lakers @ the close of the 1st qtr...
Sep 30th 2020
40
Bam 2 fouls in the first quarter
Sep 30th 2020
41
LOL...
Sep 30th 2020
42
      There was nothing fair about the second call on Bam
Sep 30th 2020
45
           Contact...
Sep 30th 2020
48
lakers looking like the deeper team right now.
Sep 30th 2020
43
They've been the deeper team since the start of the playoffs...
Sep 30th 2020
44
THERE WE GO! GET SOME DAWG IN YOU AD!!
Sep 30th 2020
46
Bron ain’t even got started yet. This is light work
Sep 30th 2020
47
Magic Bronson out there controlling pace masterfully
Sep 30th 2020
49
LMAO...I like that
Sep 30th 2020
52
65-48, Lakers @ halftime...
Sep 30th 2020
50
I’m not sure why Spo hasn’t gone to Kelly Olynk with Bam in foul tro...
Sep 30th 2020
51
Olynyk ain’t got shit for us . The heats whiteboys are unplayable this...
Sep 30th 2020
59
Dragic out. Foot injury.
Sep 30th 2020
53
No Dragon, no chance
Sep 30th 2020
57
they don't have a shot without dragic
Sep 30th 2020
65
      Or with him
Oct 01st 2020
86
Bro don’t let no mf named Duncan guard you!
Sep 30th 2020
54
This is a sweep if we want it. We got every angle covered
Sep 30th 2020
55
Heat look shell shocked
Sep 30th 2020
56
Wtf is Spo doing?
Sep 30th 2020
58
Heat Kicked our ASS the first 7 minutes though!
Sep 30th 2020
61
      Lakers too slow. Heat were running circles around them!
Sep 30th 2020
64
           LOL.
Sep 30th 2020
67
Deez Mf'ers Spitting
Sep 30th 2020
60
A team has a 32 point lead in the NBA Finals
Sep 30th 2020
62
I said it could get ugly...
Sep 30th 2020
68
ITS LEVELS TO THIS SHIT BAM!
Sep 30th 2020
63
This is looking like the 2018 Warriors
Sep 30th 2020
66
you can tell there's still beef...
Oct 01st 2020
88
Bully AD is fun
Sep 30th 2020
69
Seeing Dragic likely done for the series
Sep 30th 2020
70
A skullfucking. Hope Dragon and Bam are okay.
Sep 30th 2020
71
I’ve never seen Spo coach this badly ever
Sep 30th 2020
72
They actually cut it to 18?! Holy shit!! We would’ve been SCREWED!
Sep 30th 2020
75
The point is their late contributions could have been used earlier
Sep 30th 2020
79
Or perhaps the Lakers are good...?
Sep 30th 2020
76
imagine how good we'll be when we can earn all stah's respect
Sep 30th 2020
78
Yeah cause he never coached against AD and Bron in the finals
Oct 01st 2020
87
its a little different when Lebron is on the other team
Oct 01st 2020
89
he didnt coach badly. they just arent better at a single position
Oct 01st 2020
90
Lakeshow!
Sep 30th 2020
73
They should recreate Midnight Marauders album cover in the crowd
Sep 30th 2020
74
I'd buy that shirt.
Sep 30th 2020
80
I tweeted that the crowd actually looked like a live Lakers crowd
Oct 01st 2020
85
116-98, Lakers...
Sep 30th 2020
77
The Lakers are targeting everyone white
Oct 01st 2020
83
They all bbq chicken
Oct 01st 2020
84
Game 1 averaged 5.3 million viewers.
Oct 01st 2020
92
Baseball playoffs with Yankees and Dodgers playing at same time?
Oct 01st 2020
93
bubble ratings are junk data. too much other shit on rn
Oct 01st 2020
94
ratings been down, but that 18-40 ad demographic is where the NBA wins
Oct 01st 2020
97
I guess i'll be the one who is surprised then
Oct 02nd 2020
99
      I had a friend tell me he wasn't used to bball in September
Oct 02nd 2020
100
           Having lots of things at once is always bad.
Oct 02nd 2020
129
Bam and Dragic doubtful for Game 2
Oct 01st 2020
95
Awful. Not the way I’d like to win. Feel terrible for those guys
Oct 01st 2020
96
its a wrap. sucks for the season to end this way.
Oct 01st 2020
98
on one hand i feel bad for them
Oct 02nd 2020
101
exactly I remember 2013 when Kobe busted his ACL to get us in the...
Oct 02nd 2020
103
Yall were trash during the regular season.
Oct 02nd 2020
108
      That was the Dwight year lol, regardless not many people cried for GS...
Oct 02nd 2020
110
Get ready for that Asterisk, player.
Oct 02nd 2020
109
      I agree its the same as the Spurs in the lockout year but it still count...
Oct 02nd 2020
111
      man dont give him that bullshit
Oct 02nd 2020
113
           this championship was going to have an asterisk for multiple reasons...
Oct 02nd 2020
116
                I don't believe in asterisks.
Oct 02nd 2020
121
                     I do, I gave the Spurs one for '99 so I'll take this one
Oct 02nd 2020
125
                          I'm yet to hear a single person talk about Duncan's 4.5 titles
Oct 02nd 2020
130
                               .
Oct 02nd 2020
131
                               I do especially when people try to put him above Shaq.
Oct 02nd 2020
133
      nobody cares
Oct 02nd 2020
126
Asterisk
Oct 02nd 2020
102
Yea, I’m good. I’ll find a movie or something to watch.
Oct 02nd 2020
104
lol
Oct 02nd 2020
106
We do not care (c)Mike Tomlin...
Oct 02nd 2020
115
Pippen: The NBA bubble is “pick up” basketball
Oct 02nd 2020
105
Playoff Rondo!
Oct 02nd 2020
112
Let me spell this title out for you: H I S T O R I C
Oct 02nd 2020
114
You mad bugging.
Oct 02nd 2020
118
      This will only be a thing with non-serious analysts
Oct 02nd 2020
120
All it took was one game for you to go from
Oct 02nd 2020
117
^^Bitter Bitches^^
Oct 02nd 2020
119
He is a basketball player. You’re not.
Oct 02nd 2020
122
      I never discredited him...
Oct 02nd 2020
132
           You can counter what he is saying.
Oct 02nd 2020
135
                Okay, player. LOL
Oct 02nd 2020
137
sounds like Scottie hasn't played pickup ball in quite some time lol
Oct 02nd 2020
123
wow fam the shots
Oct 02nd 2020
124
Re: Dodgers....nah
Oct 02nd 2020
127
There is enough on both sides of the argument to say bubble ball is
Oct 02nd 2020
136
Unleash Udonis!!
Oct 02nd 2020
134
when was the last time UD played in an actual game?
Oct 02nd 2020
138
8/15/20. Went for 7pts and 8 boards.
Oct 02nd 2020
140
Udonis is on that Danny Glover..."I'm too old for this"
Oct 02nd 2020
139
      Hell yea
Oct 02nd 2020
141
Why is Thatruth the only honest lakers fan in the world?
Oct 02nd 2020
142
why are you such a pathetic bitch?
Oct 02nd 2020
143
^^ Hugh Maghd
Oct 02nd 2020
144
Didn’t read beyond the title but why are you still trolling up these t...
Oct 02nd 2020
145
Two hours plus of complaining about the refs on deck??
Oct 02nd 2020
146
Lakers wearing Gigi's number tonight...
Oct 02nd 2020
147
It’s a part of these jerseys
Oct 02nd 2020
150
I know, but we don't have much else to talk about lol...
Oct 02nd 2020
156
It's been a part of the Black Mamba kits since 2/24 afaik nm
Oct 02nd 2020
155
Bron don’t let no mf named Duncan guard you!
Oct 02nd 2020
148
Watching Herro and Robinson play defense is painful
Oct 02nd 2020
149
Play great D. Chuck 3s and be big. I do this on 2K
Oct 02nd 2020
151
68-54, Lakers @ the half...
Oct 02nd 2020
152
Miami has shot 17 FT’s to the Lakers’ 10
Oct 02nd 2020
153
LOL.
Oct 02nd 2020
157
this shit sucks as a neutral.
Oct 02nd 2020
154
All season the Clippers were the only team expected to give the Lakers.....
Oct 02nd 2020
159
Milwaukee and Miami were the answer...
Oct 02nd 2020
161
      Enjoy your bubble chip.
Oct 02nd 2020
163
           Bitter bitches unite! LOL...
Oct 02nd 2020
164
           We will! Enjoy your last chip that could legally drink if it were a pers...
Oct 02nd 2020
168
def disappointing. didn't care who won or even made it to the finals
Oct 02nd 2020
166
      A solid training staff can't be discounted...
Oct 03rd 2020
178
we bullshitting
Oct 02nd 2020
158
Settling for shots from the perimeter...
Oct 02nd 2020
160
Much better coaching by Spo.
Oct 02nd 2020
162
124-114, Lakers...
Oct 02nd 2020
165
2. More.
Oct 02nd 2020
167
An Asterisk?? Seriously?
Oct 02nd 2020
169
Don’t pay attention to the senile guy.
Oct 02nd 2020
170
An oddly ugly win. Is 47 3s a Laker record?
Oct 02nd 2020
171
The Lakers win a chip - instant asterisk. Anyone else? Historic.
Oct 02nd 2020
172
RE: The Lakers win a chip - instant asterisk. Anyone else? Historic.
Oct 02nd 2020
173
It applied to other teams as well. That’s why players are talking abou...
Oct 03rd 2020
176
TLDR: Clippers weren’t what you thought and you’re mad.
Oct 03rd 2020
177
^^^HAZ ALL THE RECEIPTS^^^
Oct 03rd 2020
179
well put, halfway home
Oct 03rd 2020
182
Lmao
Oct 03rd 2020
184
this dumbfuck said "Daniel House." What a fucking fool
Oct 03rd 2020
180
Lakers up 2-0 in the finals! Cry some more!
Oct 03rd 2020
183
The asterisk argument is a logical fallacy.
Oct 03rd 2020
185
      No everyone didn’t start playing at the same time
Oct 03rd 2020
189
           You ignored the bubble entirely.
Oct 03rd 2020
190
           It gets an asterisk
Oct 03rd 2020
198
           You wrote all that... and still didn't explain a single disadvantage.
Oct 03rd 2020
200
           You are the worst sore loser on the board...
Oct 04th 2020
201
                Why are you responding?
Oct 04th 2020
203
                     because. that's how message boards work
Oct 04th 2020
207
                          I did reply to you. I replied to you several times.
Oct 04th 2020
225
                               No, you ignored most of my post
Oct 05th 2020
253
           Worthy was hurt in 91....asterisk for Jordan’s first
Oct 03rd 2020
199
           You also ignored the fallacy involved here.
Oct 03rd 2020
192
           Yo...you sound absolutely insane my man
Oct 03rd 2020
196
This is really a non argument.
Oct 03rd 2020
181
Anthony Davis is an all time marvel & Rondo is a wizard.
Oct 02nd 2020
174
2 more. Whew. Bron and AD just terrorizing rn
Oct 02nd 2020
175
Bam and Dragic once again doubtful for Game 3
Oct 03rd 2020
186
just be honest and say theyre out of the series
Oct 03rd 2020
187
That's not true with the plantar fascia; it's a matter of pain
Oct 04th 2020
206
**********************
Oct 03rd 2020
188
      Why aren't the Clippers in the Finals?
Oct 03rd 2020
191
      Something something Danuel House
Oct 03rd 2020
193
      Because Trez went to a funeral and Lou went to Magic City
Oct 03rd 2020
197
      So would **** apply for any team not named Lakers?
Oct 03rd 2020
194
      nope.
Oct 03rd 2020
195
Some of y'all don't learn, lol.
Oct 04th 2020
202
Motherfuckers in here mad because the Lakers are about
Oct 04th 2020
204
The only person mad around here is YOU...
Oct 04th 2020
205
No, you made the claim of an asterisk. The burden of proof is on you.
Oct 04th 2020
208
First of all it was a 2 MONTH season.
Oct 04th 2020
212
      We get it....the games only count when the Lakers lose
Oct 04th 2020
218
      micro tournament? the playoffs were the same 7 game series.
Oct 04th 2020
245
Lol at you trying to convince yourself that this year doesn’t count.
Oct 04th 2020
209
I give asterisks to everybody but like I said the ring still counts lol....
Oct 04th 2020
210
“catch the ball with 2 hands!” -Bron
Oct 04th 2020
211
we bullshitting again. pathetic.
Oct 04th 2020
213
Lol...cut it out, bro...y’all still gone win, comfortably
Oct 04th 2020
215
      it isnt about just winning. i want foot on neck
Oct 04th 2020
216
           I hear you, but when y’all have a 3-0 lead...
Oct 04th 2020
217
                I’ll hold that L...thought surely he Lakers would flip the switch
Oct 04th 2020
243
Apparently the lakers don’t give a fuck tonight
Oct 04th 2020
214
Big Face Java dialed in tonight
Oct 04th 2020
219
Swish!
Oct 04th 2020
220
Bron is upset with his children
Oct 04th 2020
221
I love AD but he’s not a “top 5” player, folks need to stop saying...
Oct 04th 2020
222
I disagree...
Oct 05th 2020
264
      I got Bron, Giannis, KD, Kawhi, Steph & Harden tie for 5th, AD is not...
Oct 06th 2020
282
           I gotta laugh @ that Harden pick...
Oct 06th 2020
298
58-54, Miami @ halftime...
Oct 04th 2020
223
Still like their chances in this game.
Oct 04th 2020
224
aint no punk in miami. much respect to em.
Oct 04th 2020
226
Kieff-dog!
Oct 04th 2020
227
good twin
Oct 04th 2020
228
It’s funny because the entire league fought against us tooth and nail....
Oct 04th 2020
231
Wasted a great Kieff game. Ah well.
Oct 04th 2020
241
vogel gotta get dwight off the oak man
Oct 04th 2020
229
bron really complaining about that travel call.
Oct 04th 2020
230
he knew he traveled lol.
Oct 04th 2020
234
CRAB DRIBBLE!
Oct 05th 2020
272
Jimmy putting in work tonight.
Oct 04th 2020
232
1st team all dog.
Oct 04th 2020
236
Buckets treating the lakers like the T'wolves starting 4 in practice rn.
Oct 04th 2020
233
The mechanic!
Oct 04th 2020
235
"Masterpiece from Jimmy Butler" - Breeny
Oct 04th 2020
237
Fantastic performance on the biggest stage.
Oct 04th 2020
244
honestly a disgusting performance on both ends
Oct 04th 2020
238
Post 219.
Oct 04th 2020
239
I’d be surprised if he’s back
Oct 04th 2020
242
      Would be surprised but I wouldn’t rule it out
Oct 04th 2020
246
      Why are you bringing my name up?
Oct 04th 2020
251
           Because you’re a sore loser ass clown.
Oct 04th 2020
252
                So basically you brought my name up
Oct 05th 2020
255
                     I love how your main argument is "this other person agrees with me"
Oct 05th 2020
257
                     You still responding to me? After you said you wouldn’t?
Oct 05th 2020
260
                          to be fair, he eats a bowl of his own shit every day
Oct 05th 2020
261
Not shocked at a loss.
Oct 04th 2020
240
D J A N G O
Oct 04th 2020
247
Jimmy out here lookin' like Denzel in Hateful 8...
Oct 04th 2020
249
      Denzel wasn’t in the Hateful 8
Oct 05th 2020
256
           I was gonna say, you mean Channing Tatum?
Oct 05th 2020
258
                I meant The Magnificent 7 lol.
Oct 05th 2020
259
115-104, Miami...
Oct 04th 2020
248
It’s like I stated earlier about the first game, where
Oct 04th 2020
250
I knew there were reasons Danny Green basically lost his starting job...
Oct 05th 2020
254
I can't wait until game 4! I wish it was right now! mf's are going to be...
Oct 05th 2020
262
Lakers have played like this in 1 game of each series
Oct 05th 2020
263
And now its AD’s fault that Jimmy went off for 40?
Oct 05th 2020
265
no its AD's fault he's 6'11" and had 5 rebounds
Oct 05th 2020
266
AD played way below par
Oct 05th 2020
267
what are you talking about now
Oct 05th 2020
268
LABron choked simple and plain
Oct 05th 2020
269
aren’t you a Cleveland fan?
Oct 05th 2020
270
“ My Nigga” - Denzel in Training Day.
Oct 05th 2020
271
      You think the MVP is a fake award. You calling people out now?
Oct 05th 2020
274
Literally nobody has blamed AD for Jimmy.
Oct 05th 2020
275
AD received a ton of praise for the first 2 wins
Oct 06th 2020
276
jesus.
Oct 06th 2020
277
THE BUTLERIAN JIHAD!
Oct 05th 2020
273
why are yall still replying to that man lmao
Oct 06th 2020
278
Wonder what the post count would be without him
Oct 06th 2020
281
right I reply to him about actual sports things but all the personal...
Oct 06th 2020
283
Boredom. Still 'tined up.
Oct 06th 2020
291
^^^My question for the last 10 years
Oct 08th 2020
451
Is Bam hooping tonight or what?
Oct 06th 2020
279
i hope the fuck so, so vogel will play Dwight
Oct 06th 2020
280
Howard can’t stick with Olynk outside the paint.
Oct 06th 2020
292
      Olynk can’t stick with Howard inside the paint...
Oct 06th 2020
294
           Of course he can’t, he is terrible defensively and on rebounds
Oct 06th 2020
295
                It goes both ways Herro and Robinson are great offensive players...
Oct 06th 2020
301
                     No doubt .
Oct 06th 2020
302
Bam is playing tonight.
Oct 06th 2020
297
      Oh yea. Let's go
Oct 06th 2020
306
Game 4 theme music:
Oct 06th 2020
284
more like this...:
Oct 06th 2020
285
“Hunnid thousand for the cheapest ring on a nigga finger lil bitch!”
Oct 07th 2020
440
butler is focused
Oct 06th 2020
290
If I never see that fake ass snarl again by Herro I’ll be a happy man...
Oct 06th 2020
286
man if they don't eat his fucking food tonight! I want to see him cry.
Oct 06th 2020
287
      Lol
Oct 06th 2020
288
           I need Rondo, KCP, Kieff, JR somebody to get a flagrant non-basketball.....
Oct 06th 2020
289
                wow, you guys are that desperate, huh?
Oct 06th 2020
304
                     A rookie should stay in his place...
Oct 06th 2020
311
                          this is the take of a 70 year old white male. what the fuck
Oct 06th 2020
313
                               If you can’t take the heat stay your ass out the kitchen - I don’t.....
Oct 06th 2020
319
Can the heat sustain their performance?
Oct 06th 2020
293
Why is Myers Leonard a thing?
Oct 06th 2020
296
He stands for the anthem? I dunno.
Oct 06th 2020
299
      Yep before the Finals they did a story about how his brother joined the....
Oct 06th 2020
300
Bam's back, and Goran's gonna try to play.
Oct 06th 2020
303
Breh Dragic looked horrible in that warmup they showed
Oct 06th 2020
305
Be prepared Miami for Dwight with the fake goon shit on Bam tonight
Oct 06th 2020
307
Bron ain't playin' around tonight...
Oct 06th 2020
308
Call CPS. Bron abusing children
Oct 06th 2020
309
"GET UP DOG!"....young boy laid out, contused....
Oct 06th 2020
322
WHERE THAT SMIRK AT?!
Oct 06th 2020
310
Bron and AD need to meet Jimmy challenge
Oct 06th 2020
312
Crowder was so corny for that
Oct 06th 2020
314
Kieff-dog!
Oct 06th 2020
315
danny green shooting like draymond green.
Oct 06th 2020
316
Miami is just so impressive.
Oct 06th 2020
317
Dwyane Wade 2006 BS
Oct 06th 2020
318
Lebron extra bitchy tonight
Oct 06th 2020
320
AD and Bron this ain’t it. We won’t win like this
Oct 06th 2020
321
Being up 2 is...lucky.
Oct 06th 2020
323
Only time LeBron looks like he gives a fuck
Oct 06th 2020
324
bron flustered.
Oct 06th 2020
325
49-47, Lakers @ the half...
Oct 06th 2020
326
Damn, Lakers!
Oct 06th 2020
327
pressed
Oct 06th 2020
328
cmon.
Oct 06th 2020
329
No. He is unable to speak fluently.
Oct 06th 2020
332
^^ ableism
Oct 06th 2020
330
Let’s. Fucking. Go.
Oct 06th 2020
331
Lol at the refs
Oct 06th 2020
334
      Please. It’s been bad all around.
Oct 06th 2020
337
      They will not be honest.
Oct 06th 2020
338
           Honestly?
Oct 06th 2020
364
Lakers settling for too many 3s...
Oct 06th 2020
333
AD with another near death experience
Oct 06th 2020
335
I’m trying to be quiet
Oct 06th 2020
340
      Dude is soft
Oct 06th 2020
344
           tough typers make me gag
Oct 07th 2020
404
damn AD be scaring me.
Oct 06th 2020
336
Lakers nation nervous a fuck right now.
Oct 06th 2020
339
rip ad. oh wait what? hes out on the floor the very next possession?
Oct 06th 2020
341
Pretty great Laker D tonight
Oct 06th 2020
342
God I wish Bam was at 100
Oct 06th 2020
343
How many times is Mike Breen going to confuse Rondo with KCP...
Oct 06th 2020
345
kcp been reliable/steady. cant even knock that young man.
Oct 06th 2020
346
1 more!
Oct 06th 2020
347
this guy.
Oct 06th 2020
357
      Oh, he ain’t one of y’all?
Oct 06th 2020
362
      Bron been gutting you and your squads for how long now?
Oct 06th 2020
363
           my man, you were the biggest heat fan a few years ago.
Oct 06th 2020
367
                you and all stah should hang sometime
Oct 06th 2020
375
                     We are real fans though.
Oct 06th 2020
384
Dont let no mf named Duncan guard you!
Oct 06th 2020
348
i hate ad.
Oct 06th 2020
349
Looks real tough when he wants to
Oct 06th 2020
351
      yeah its so goofy.
Oct 06th 2020
365
much better 2nd half from AD and bron
Oct 06th 2020
350
Nope! Don’t want to hear it.
Oct 06th 2020
358
      Nobody cares what you want
Oct 06th 2020
361
1 more.
Oct 06th 2020
352
Lakers attack Robinson or Herro *every possession.*
Oct 06th 2020
353
lol that’s NBA basketball
Oct 06th 2020
366
      Sure, but there are schemes that can protect from that.
Oct 07th 2020
390
           They mostly played zone the first 2 games and got destroyed...
Oct 07th 2020
398
                I agree with all that.
Oct 07th 2020
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                     yeah like I said its professional basketball...
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Anthony Davis just shitted on all his haters
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RE: Anthony Davis just shitted on all his haters
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An honest question. Do you not believe in criticism?
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Nah.
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      Name names.
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           Thought so.
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Nobody hates on his talent
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102-96, Lakers...
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Damn, they got 2 full days off...it’s a wrap...Bron might play 48 minu...
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I like how AD & Bron wait on each other after their postgame interviews....
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Spoelstra with another coaching blunder.
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What the hell is going on in OKS nowadays? Lol
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      You can’t run pick and pop with Bam
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           BAM has been either the screener or the one...
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                Bam can’t screen or fake screen
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                     In that video, Olynyk hits a 3 off screen action *once.*
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once again - don't sleep on KCP
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quick on his feet, can split defenders if needed.
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grown up a bunch. salute to that brother.
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Playing like Ron Harper lite.
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That was disrespectful to Harper...
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      I should clarify. 2000 Harper. And I *did* say “lite”.
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He was trash last game but a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and...
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Rondo is about the only player I've ever seen
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Illest move from Bron tonight was that Kobe fadeaway.
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miami's got all the heart and grit, lakers got all the talent.
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I actually disagree.
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Agreed. Dragic was playing at such a high level in the last series.
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6 years ago Vex was rooting for the Miami Heat.
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Nobody gives a damn but you...
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Yup. Vex is an unabashed Bron fan.
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      Yep. Some folks just raised differently
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try breathing thru your nose.
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Need a social distanced hug, thug?
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I've never been a fan of the Cavs/Heat/Lakers per se
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      While I disagree with this being a positive, I understand your position
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           Word
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           It's never as simple as that though, is it?
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           Should players leave their careers in the hands of poor management?
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Lakers fans. What do y’all really think about Kuzma?
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I don't think he's shit, I don't think he's the star that he and we...
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he aight just mentally immature
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Free the kid
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He’s not the third guy.
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the ideal "third guy" for Lebron and AD would be a knock down shooter...
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I agree. It's gotta be a 39+% 3PT guy.
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      Buddy Hield is fool’s gold.
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      "The shooting version of Andrew Wiggins" is a good player tho!
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      what's crazy is that's what Danny Green was supposed to be but he has...
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           yeah, that's the problem with going for the vet...
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                Yeah that’s what’s crazy shooters don’t usually just fall off...
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I feel like he is the type of dude that gets a great deal from SAC
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if he's going to blossom, it won't be here.
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man thats just twitter trolling.
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      You mofos are despicable.
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           Lmao
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I think he always wanted to get shipped out to N.O. w/ the kids
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from following him on IG, he absolutely thought it was a Big 3.
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      It's because all those people cysed him as being better than Ingram.
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           well - to be fair - he had a better year than Ingram last year in L.A.
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                Hella disagree
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                     Agreed.
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                     Oh I definitely agree that Ingram is the better player
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                          sure, but I don't think we should confuse
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Managing expectations...
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also a fair question to ask is... does Bron's leadership style serve eve...
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he's just not built for it, everybody isn't
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I’m certainly not
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kuzma is a. from Flint
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      Ha indeed
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Has shown significant maturity and growth this season
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AD asked to guard Jimmy Butler:
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Mamba Jerseys on Friday. Bron ready to GO
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Couldn't be a more epic grand finale if they close it out on Friday
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I'm not superstitious.
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      nah man I’m confident. We’re about to see a special finale
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      I agree...
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we're going to need a new thread for Friday y'all already got this shit....
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Its 2020, what are ya'll posting from that can't handle 500 replies
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      its just annoying after a while with most people rambling on about...
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BrooklynWHAT
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1. "Lakers in FIVE"
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2. "Easier said than done but Miami is gonna have to legally beat AD up"
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as was stated in previous threads, he seems to have a really low pain threshold. miami is going to have to find a way to use that to their advantage (legally). i can see kelly o getting 15 minutes per and eating up fouls with the quickness.

you just know riley and spo see that shit. they're not gonna let dude prance around without getting bodied.

  

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3. "Kelly O.. the shoulder snapper."
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4. "yeah. that's why i emphasized *legally*"
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literally no one likes kelly o. but he's the only big miami can afford to spare when it comes to foul trouble. meyers leonard doesn't count.

  

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7. "The zone can help with that too."
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Like, I don't think someone like Jae Crowder can do a thing with AD... but if AD's in Crowder's part of the zone, I think Crowder's capable of a goonish-ass foul onto AD that makes him think "eh, I'm just shooting a 3 next time." (Same for Iggy, really.)

Just pack in that zone, force the Lakers to shoot over them, and crank up the goonery if they try to get inside.

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8. "they not gonna out goon us either"
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yall bout to learn what time it is. we are way better than anyone else in the league.

  

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16. "I agree with you."
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I have Lakers in 5, if that. I'm just discussing the only potential path Miami has to victory.

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5. "Lakers in 6 but it’s gonna be TOUGH. "
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As it should be. But likely the hardest matchup they’ve faced.

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6. "If the refs let the heat play, lakers will get cooked."
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If they don’t let the heat play defense, then it will be over in 5.

But one would have to think that Spo and Riley have more than earned the
right to get a fair game.

  

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9. "I've been underestimating Miami ALL SEASON LONG..."
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They've put together a hell of a playoff run and I gotta give them their respect.

But Lakers in 6.

  

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10. "Lakers in 5 (I've had this on repeat since first round)"
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and it hasn't failed.

For the Blazers, it was guards and nothing else. I saw it coming.
For the Rockets it was rebounding, everyone saw that one coming.
For the Nuggets it was big depth and youth, Lakers have more bodies to roll out and a young talented team that's still figuring it out goes down 3-1 three straight series. I knew Bron wasn't gonna give them life if he got up 3-1.

For the Heat, this is why:
1) Bron is legacy chasing. Wants to cement #1...knows another ring makes it harder to dispute and 1 more after that makes it virtually impossible to discount. Added bonus to beating Riley (you're making the biggest mistake of your career leaving the Heat), Iggy (GState residue) and Jimmy (I don't think they like each other much from the Bulls days).

2) Bron is rested. So much so that he's playing elite level defense...consistently. <--that is a PROBLEM for everyone. Giving him long breaks between series, 4 months off to workout and chill and spend time with his family...might have extended his prime (lol) but also showed him what life would be like when it's all over. I think he wants to get a few more rings and chill at home now (while working on other business and social ventures too).

3) AD will deliver. He'll slightly outplay Bam. I know he's been light on the rebounding but I think that was strategic by Vogel. They don't NEED him for boards all the time (Bron, Dwight, Javale, Rondo are all good rebounders) but the ALWAYS need him to score. Pulling Jokic (slow, foul prone) or Grant (good help defender) out of the paint helped create some of those lanes for LeBron to torch Denver. I do think AD needs to focus on the boards more but as we've seen, it's not absolutely necessary for the Lakers to win.

4) Depth. Rondo and Caruso (who's played very well these playoffs), Bron, Morris, Kuz, AD, Dwight Javale. Miami can't match that. They've been running their core 6 players into the ground (Jimmy, Bam, Dragic, Herro, Duncan, Crowder). Olynyk and Iggy have gotten spot duty for the most part and Nunn/Derrick Jones haven't really played. If Spo elects to use their extended bench, those guys HAVE to play well consistently for it to matter. Which I think is a tall order to expect in the finals when he hasn't used them consistently all playoffs.

5) Experience. The Lakers have 15 rings between the players and the staff. 9 of those rings are from players (Bron-3, Rondo-1, Danny Green-2, Javale-2, JR-1). While the Heat rely heavily on 2 rookies. Jimmy, Dragic, Iggy and Crowder (somewhat) are the only real vets with near finals experience and iggy is the only one with finals experience on the roster. This will matter in certain situations/possessions.

6) My caveat. Jimmy Buckets is my dude and clutch so I'll give the Heat a strong shot at a second win because Jimmy can deliver that. The problem here is he's playing heads up against a player that can do the same (Bron). But if it goes 6, it'll be because Jimmy gutted one out.




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13. "Solid breakdown..."
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..LA has the personnel to adapt to anything Miami throws their way.

That being said, I still expect one helluva fight every game.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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14. "they've managed his workload perfectly "
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right on down to how he chooses to exert himself in key moments during the game


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15. "this is a good summary of why i am ultra confident"
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the whole playoffs it's been how do the lakers stop an all star backcourt? got em out of here

how do the lakers stop small ball? with big small ball. get em out of here.

nuggets got an elite big and guard, and supporting cast. how will we deal with it. with our better elite big and guard and supporting cast

so honestly i look at the heat, and i cant even fathom a scenario where we lose more than 1 game this series. they are the least threatening team of any we have faced. they're not deep. their stars arent anything to really be worried about. they play amazing D but so do we. Spo and Vogel is a wash. i just honestly dont see it.

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17. "Nice analysis here. Don't forget KCP"
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KCP came to L.A. as a 3-and-D in training - and despite a rough start to this stint with this Laker team he's living up to billing during the playoffs - shooting the 3 at a great clip (~40%) and also hounding PGs on the defensive end. I think he could be key in trying to slow down Dragic, who has had a masterful post-season.

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18. "idk about that"
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>KCP came to L.A. as a 3-and-D in training

hes the exact same player he was in Detroit. one who i highly regarded, but the biggest change for him has been a decrease in usage, which suits him well.

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19. "not exactly. "
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>hes the exact same player he was in Detroit.

He averaged career highs this year in both FG% and 3FG%, respectively. A lot of that has to do with LeBron's genius play-making, getting him wide open looks, but KCP has to knock them down.

KCP has shined bright this year, particularly in the post-season.


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20. "cgonz isn't wrong about his usage tho."
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His role is definitely different than the one he played in Detroit, and it reflects in his shot attempts. Here are his shot frequencies for various types of shots, both in his last season in Detroit and this season in LA. The difference is staggering.

Detroit:
catch-and-shoot 3s: 31%
pull up 3s: 16%
pull-up 2s: 27%
2s inside of ten feet: 19%

LA:
catch-and-shoot 3s: 41%
pull up 3s: 6%
pull-up 2s: 16%
2s inside of ten feet: 31%

KCP's shooting is better across the board because shots are better across the board. He's not having to force the issue to generate offense like he did in Detroit. He used to do more pull-ups, fewer assisted outside jumpers. Now, thanks to Bron, he's lower usage on offense and can just be a corner 3 or wide open drive guy. Which invariably helps his shooting percentages *and* invariably helps his defense, since he's now doing less on offense than he had to do before.

You're right that he's having his best season to date, I just don't think that runs counter to cgonz saying that KCP's lower usage rate makes the biggest difference. Bron holding the ball and creating opportunities puts KCP in a position where he can maximize his output the way he's currently doing.

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23. "I agree. "
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If any team is expecting a ton of usage/mileage out of KCP they are using him wrong - but I didn't object to that point. What I disagreed with was the statement that KCP is the same as he's always been - which to me doesn't acknowledge the great season KCP has had. It's all relative, of course - but there have been many nights this year (and particularly in the playoffs) where KCP has been the 3rd scoring option for this squad.

When you consider that Laker fans were calling for KCP to be dealt because of his slow start, it's pretty exceptional to observe the run he's had this year in both the regular and post-season.

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107. "Or maybe it’s because he is playing in a bubble. "
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Similar to other players, who have had an unusual performance spike in the bubble, is that the true explanation behind KCP’s 3pt shooting? It applies to Rondo as well.

It also applies to Murray, Booker, Lillard, and a lot of players who had incredible back to back to back astronomical scoring outputs. I think Lillard had three 50 point games in the bubble, and avg close to 40 points a game. We all know Lillard can do that in a regular game , but to do it consecutively, almost night in and night out is abnormal.

The suns going 8-0? Would that have happened during the regular season?


If the NBA returns to its normal setting next season, players are going to be expected to replicate their performances, and if it does not happen, then what they did in the bubble will be defined as a fluke.


  

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128. "That's certainly a possibility."
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That said, KCP's shooting percentages and shot selection are on the whole better over his three years with the Lakers. The extent that his playoff shooting has thrived this year could be in part due to the bubble, but I think the hypothesis that he's just far better suited as a catch-and-shoot 3-and-D role player than as a create-your-own-offense wing extends beyond the bubble.

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355. "^^^"
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KCP balling!

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11. "Go Heat!"
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12. "Lakers 17th in year 17."
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Lot of symmetry there.

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21. "I will be mad as shit if the Lakers lose. But..."
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This Miami team is not hatable in any way.

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22. "I'd LOVE for Spo to get a ring without Bron."
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I think right now he gets unfairly lumped in with the "he only has a ring because of SuperPlayer X" group. A ring without Bron would really force the haters to reconsider Spo's legacy.

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24. "who are the haters? He's a really good coach who has proven"
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more than once already
that he can coach effectively without the big 3.


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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26. "I think there are plenty that underrate him."
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I feel like, whenever you see sports media people ranking the top active coaches in the NBA, they'll put guys like Stevens and Bud above Spo. Nurse too. Maybe even Malone.

I know I posted about it here before they officially won the ECF (https://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2720559&mesg_id=2720559&page=2#2720881), and this post kinda bricked, but... Spo is building an all-timer resume.

6th all time in conference titles.
Top 10 in playoff win %.
8th all time in win % of all coaches with 500+ wins.
16th all time in total wins above .500.
Will be Top 25 in total wins by end of next season.

A title, while admittedly unlikely, would make him only the seventh coach in NBA history with 3 or more titles. I think one could already argue he's a top 15-20 coach of all time *without* the third title-- which, considering he's not even 50, puts him on a hell of an all-timer trajectory.

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25. "absolutely. actually as i read this post im listening to bomani"
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and he clowned Spo for never having even won 50 games w/o Lebron. Spo absolutely needs a non-Lebron ring to get respect from the masses. in knowledgeable bball circles he has it but those are small

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32. "Ha this is true"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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91. "agreed"
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even though I'm sick of the Cavs losing to them in regular season (even w/LeBron on the roster) .... the Heat have nothing but respect from me, they got to the Finals a season after missing the playoffs and beat pretty much all but one of the other big bad East teams (the exception was Toronto, because the Celtics did that, and then they beat the Celtics convincingly).

  

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27. "Heat in 7: a scenario"
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Jae Crowder guards Bron. His only instructions..."try and keep him under 40".


Vogel has shown he can make good adjustments between games, but he is going against Spo, who not only preps his teams well, but will tinker with things when he needs to in game. The Heat are a lot like Houston but their 'rim runner' is a 6' 10" point center, and they have shooters that are not going to shoot you out the game because the coach doesn't just throw his cards on the table and say beat me....he has pieces that he will move in and out of the lineup based on performance. So in that respect, the Heat pose some significant problems for the Lakers. The primary problem for the Heat will be scoring at the rim against the Lakers is going to be hard AF because you have four huge shot blockers. They are going to have to live with mid range shots and threes most of the time....the layup lines they ran against the C's are gone.


The Heat are going to do two things- they are going to press on offense similar to Houston, and they are going to be physical, as Spo is a disciple of Pat Riley. Bron of course, is immune to the physicality, but its going to affect everyone else on the Lakers. This allowed the Heat to beat the Celtics because they were then able to control the boards. Vogel can counter this by starting Dwight, but then how is Dwight going to respond the physical nature of the game. Can he keep his head and stay out of foul trouble? For the sake of this argument, I say no. JaVale has been pushed to the second team, and I don't think Vogel would immediately swap him out...so Dwight will have to be smart. Spo has Olynyk and Meyers Leonard to march out against him to further push him out of his game.

BAM vs. AD- this is the most compelling match up of the series. We have two mobile, skilled big men that can get their own shots and defend. AD of course, is a scorer deluxe- a seven footer that can attack off the dribble and can shoot over everyone....except now he's matched up with a guy who can beat him to spots and interrupt his rhythm. So what does he do? Will he then post Bam and shoot over him (and get fouled repeatedly by various heat players)...Then on defense,
AD can certainly shut down Bam the scoring machine. All those overpowering drives that Bam got on Theis are a thing of the past...so Bam in this series is more the facilitator. In that role, I think Spo is going to try and have Bam pull AD away from the basket. That leaves Bron having to be the rim protector against a team of finishers. Dragic, Herro, Butler and Bam....all great finishers. Vogel has to solve that...


Butler - he will show his whole game this series. The HEAT are not really a Super team, so odds are, this might be dudes only shot, and I think he has some perspective around this as he has played in multiple cities, so he's going to leave it all on the floor.


The Zone - Spo will use it judiciously to stop Laker momentum, and I think if it is used sparingly, it will be effective and can determine the outcome of a couple of games.


HEALTH- this is the final variable. These men have balled out for three months in a compressed schedule that while they haven't had to deal with jet lag and such, they have been in isolation, under pressure to stay isolated to keep from getting sick, playing under a microscope that freed them up in certain ways on the court but comes down to these next two weeks. The Heat are YOUNG, and I think this helps them....battle tested but young. The Lakers are a veteran squad and their most important pieces have a lot of games and minutes under their belt (Bron over 1500 games!). Bron I think is the best conditioned of the bunch and really at this point beyond any superlatives we can heap upon him...but he runs ball with a bunch of mortals. Extraordinary...but mortal. Can they stay healthy and focused and respond to the challenge from this young, nothing to lose bunch of mercenaries? I say that is going to be hard for them at this point, and the Heat, they are too young to know any better than what Pat Riley and Spo have drilled into their heads about the mystique of South Beach.



I think we get a classic series, with the Heat improbably winning in 7.

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28. "LOL @ this pipe dream..."
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..Your entire breakdown is based on the hope that the Lakers will somehow stop being the Lakers.

They've faced everything from small-ball teams that like to run & gun, to a team with a legit threats in the paint, mid-range, & on the perimeter. They've already shown that they're more than capable of making the adjustments.



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29. "Its a scenario....they gotta play the games, right?"
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31. "You should take heed to the famous words of Winston Wolf "
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33. "Lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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36. "i think the lakers are good for at least 2 clunkers."
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it wouldnt be surprising for miami to scrap their way to 2 other wins.

  

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81. "Welp, this all went up in smoke...gotta be healthy to pull it off."
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82. "Oh, the irony..."
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..Your original assessment had Miami looking like a younger, healthier team with nothing to lose.

As it turns out, the Lakers have not only managed their health better, but also their overall discipline. Kudos to a top notch training staff as well.


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34. "Big Face Coffee time!!"
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35. "lets eat!!!!!"
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Bulls gave birth and raised that nigga....Jimmy!!

Rebel alliance keep the empire down!!

Let’s eat.

  

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37. "i gotta say it again but the bubble broadcasts look amazing."
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whoever designed the court and the rest of the set deserve a raise.

  

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38. "Just like that...j, j, just like that (c)"
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39. "Bench stepped up and Bron got to do some processing. Let’s get it"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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40. "31-28, Lakers @ the close of the 1st qtr..."
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..A slow start saw the Lakers struggle to find rhythm early, falling behind by double digits, only to storm back and close out the 1st qtr ahead by 3.

Mark Jackson just commented that Spo needs to make an adjustment 'cause Miami can't go small while Davis is on the floor.

*Bron, Davis, and KCP already getting to the FT line. Lakers getting good looks and playing aggressively on defense.

Kuzma just opened the 2nd qtr with a corner 3.



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41. "Bam 2 fouls in the first quarter "
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The second foul his hands were straight up...totally great defense matching lebron step for step like Mark said.

Bam never faced foul trouble in east playoffs ..not once

They are really going to penalize a guy for playing great defense because lebron can’t get his shot?

As soon as Bam sat lakers went on a 11-0 run.....after heat were up 20-10

They just ain’t going to let it be fair.

  

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42. "LOL..."
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..Bam didn't have to worry about foul trouble in the east because he wasn't facing 3 seven-footers and Bron lol.

Lakers closed the gap with Bron on the bench.

Refs are calling it evenly so far. Keep looking for excuses.




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45. "There was nothing fair about the second call on Bam "
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If you know what defense is

Mark Jackson even said it. That was outstanding defense on Lebron, and his hands were straight up.

Heat’s defense highly depends on Bam as an anchor.

We shall see how this plays out.

But Bam is an outstanding disciplined defender ...this ain’t jokic they can call that bullshit on.

  

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48. "Contact..."
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..I agree with Mark in his assessment of the footwork shown, but the refs thought there was enough contact.




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43. "lakers looking like the deeper team right now."
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i did not expect that.

  

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44. "They've been the deeper team since the start of the playoffs..."
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..in each of their match ups.


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46. "THERE WE GO! GET SOME DAWG IN YOU AD!!"
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________________________________________
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47. "Bron ain’t even got started yet. This is light work"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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49. "Magic Bronson out there controlling pace masterfully"
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AD was savage in that first half. Great flow/ball movement from Bron - lot of great, open looks (that are being knocked down right now).

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52. "LMAO...I like that "
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50. "65-48, Lakers @ halftime..."
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..LA knocking down shots from everywhere. Fluid ball movement, getting good looks. Bron has 7 assist.

Miami already switched to zone and the Lakers walked over/through it. 11 3s for LA.

The Heat have no answer to the LA's size. If the Lakers' perimeter shooting continues, this could get ugly.

Miami's a scrappy team, but appear to be over-matched. I fully expect them to heat up from the perimeter at some point. Should be Interesting to see how the Lakers respond.


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51. "I’m not sure why Spo hasn’t gone to Kelly Olynk with Bam in foul tro..."
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in the first half. He gives you size, fouls and three point shooting. Going small in that situation made zero sense.

I say continue to play how you’re playing. Stay zone, and if the lakers hit their threes fuck it. Clearly the refs are not going to let Bam play man to man or Bron or Davis. ...

Great three point shooting by the lakers

  

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59. "Olynyk ain’t got shit for us . The heats whiteboys are unplayable this..."
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They ain’t got he muscle for this

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53. "Dragic out. Foot injury. "
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More than likely will not return.

  

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57. "No Dragon, no chance"
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65. "they don't have a shot without dragic"
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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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86. "Or with him"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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54. "Bro don’t let no mf named Duncan guard you!"
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55. "This is a sweep if we want it. We got every angle covered"
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56. "Heat look shell shocked"
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58. "Wtf is Spo doing? "
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You’ve been excellent the entire playoffs..

Where are your subs? Where is Olynk? Nunn?

Solomon hill deserves tick?

  

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61. "Heat Kicked our ASS the first 7 minutes though!"
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So that proves the Lakers ain’t shit! Ahaha! These Heat boys were WORKING them!

  

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64. "Lakers too slow. Heat were running circles around them!"
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It was over until the refs threw the game!

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67. "LOL."
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60. "Deez Mf'ers Spitting"
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62. "A team has a 32 point lead in the NBA Finals "
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68. "I said it could get ugly..."
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..but I didn't think Spo would remain this short on his rotation.

Now he has no choice. That short rotation throughout the playoffs is gonna hurt when they need those players to step up without many minutes played.


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63. "ITS LEVELS TO THIS SHIT BAM!"
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66. "This is looking like the 2018 Warriors"
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Lakers just tossing bigs at the Heat. Plus Rondo + LeBron are the best passers out of any team they've faced.

LeBron probably taking this personal off the shit Riley and 'em said about him.

And Dragic out? Shit.

  

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88. "you can tell there's still beef..."
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>LeBron probably taking this personal off the shit Riley and
>'em said about him.

Bron's words were very "measured" when they asked him what he thought of Riles and the Heat organization

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69. "Bully AD is fun"
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70. "Seeing Dragic likely done for the series "
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71. "A skullfucking. Hope Dragon and Bam are okay. "
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72. "I’ve never seen Spo coach this badly ever "
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When the heat were up by 10 and pounding, and then Bam got into foul trouble, lakers went on a 25-3 run.

Not once did Spo go zone in that first quarter to preserve the lead. And he didn’t put another big in there. He just let the bleeding continue. He should have slowed every possession down.....and the team even went smaller.

The foul situation definitely changed the momentum....but Spo never countered. He knew he basically couldn’t play Bam for the rest of the first half that much....
And went to kelly and nunn late in the third...they came in an actually cut the led down to 18 points with 8 mins to go in the game.

This was very bad by Spo. This was some rookie coaching shit out there.

  

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75. "They actually cut it to 18?! Holy shit!! We would’ve been SCREWED!"
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Thank you Spo, for not being as smart about basketball as All Stah.

  

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79. "The point is their late contributions could have been used earlier "
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in the game. Nunn and Kelly clearly added a spark.
Spo kept his rotation extremely short, which Van Gundy mentioned.

Going smaller when Bam got into foul trouble added to the bleeding. It was terrible coaching on spo’s end considering the length of the lakers. It totally made no sense
By Spo.

  

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76. "Or perhaps the Lakers are good...?"
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78. "imagine how good we'll be when we can earn all stah's respect"
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87. "Yeah cause he never coached against AD and Bron in the finals"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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89. "its a little different when Lebron is on the other team"
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90. "he didnt coach badly. they just arent better at a single position"
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including Spo vs Vogel

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73. "Lakeshow!"
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74. "They should recreate Midnight Marauders album cover in the crowd"
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That would be dope.

  

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80. "I'd buy that shirt."
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Pau, Obama, Shaq, Kareem, Walton, Worthy, etc? Yeah.

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85. "I tweeted that the crowd actually looked like a live Lakers crowd"
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77. "116-98, Lakers..."
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..After a slow start, LA took over and never looked back.

Dominant in every area of the game.

AD showed out: 34/9/5 with 3 blocks. Bron put up a 25/13/9 and skillfully paced the Lakers to a lopsided victory.

BENCHMOB!!! Everyone played their roles @ both ends of the floor tonight. 31 pts and 18 rbs, with an impressive showing while Bron was on the bench.

Miami fought to keep pace, but were ultimately outmatched in every aspect. Spo has his work cut out for him with injuries to Bam & Dragic, but this game was already out of hand before they left.

3 more wins.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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83. "The Lakers are targeting everyone white"
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Herro, Robinson, Olynk. If they are on the court, LeBron wants them switched on to him

  

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84. "They all bbq chicken"
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92. "Game 1 averaged 5.3 million viewers."
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Last year's Game 1 averaged 15.14 million. Nearly a 67% drop off.

  

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93. "Baseball playoffs with Yankees and Dodgers playing at same time?"
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Had to hurt part of it. The two most popular baseball teams having games at the same time as the b-ball game.

  

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94. "bubble ratings are junk data. too much other shit on rn"
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97. "ratings been down, but that 18-40 ad demographic is where the NBA wins"
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or at least was during the beginning of the bubble

  

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99. "I guess i'll be the one who is surprised then"
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over the summer we were dying for sports on tv


not sure if I buy the argument that we have too many choices either. This is the FINALS



  

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100. "I had a friend tell me he wasn't used to bball in September"
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Wouldn't be surprised if a lot of people thought that way. It's football time and that's THE sport

edit, NHL numbers were down too. It's just a weird year. I hate the 9 pm starts and turned game 1 off mdiway through the third quarter

  

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129. "Having lots of things at once is always bad."
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For ratings to reach their peak potential, they need to be grabbing those people that aren't sports die hards. And fall is for football. If a random joe is going to devote weekend time to football, does he want to be devoting multiple nights of time to basketball too?

Furthermore, cord cutting is also increasing exponentially, I would imagine. So factoring in that, factoring in how many bars/restaurants that would normally play the games are closed or only doing outdoor dining, factoring in that there's just so much in the news cycle that sports probably just doesn't seem important to people, factoring in the football component....

... there's just a lot going against it right now.

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95. "Bam and Dragic doubtful for Game 2"
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1311729380557762560

  

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96. "Awful. Not the way I’d like to win. Feel terrible for those guys"
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98. "its a wrap. sucks for the season to end this way."
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a ton of respect for the way miami built their team and battled to get here. its fucked up that injuries are gonna deprive them of the ability to at least put up a fair fight.

  

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101. "on one hand i feel bad for them"
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on the other hand the same sympathy would not be extended to us if Bron and AD went down. so next man up.

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103. "exactly I remember 2013 when Kobe busted his ACL to get us in the..."
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playoffs and Nash was hurt we ended up with a starting backcourt of Darius Morris and Andrew Goudelock against the Spurs and nobody cried for us.

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108. "Yall were trash during the regular season."
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The heat have been outstanding for most of the season...albeit in a bubble.

There is a huge difference.

  

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110. "That was the Dwight year lol, regardless not many people cried for GS..."
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last year either. Injuries are part of the game.

Nobody cried for Lebron in 2015 when Kyrie and Love got hurt and he had to take on the Warriors with Matthew Delladova.

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109. "Get ready for that Asterisk, player."
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It was the same way yall were hitting Golden State with an asterisk when Chris Paul went down in his first year with Houston.

And on Kawhi last year when Durant and Thompson went down.


  

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111. "I agree its the same as the Spurs in the lockout year but it still count..."
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113. "man dont give him that bullshit"
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if anything it was harder for us because we were denied the HCA we earned

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116. "this championship was going to have an asterisk for multiple reasons..."
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regardless of who won but it still counts.

We were the best in the west in the regular season and best in the west in the bubble once the playoffs started. I think Miami has benefited from the bubble way more in the playoffs. Do guys like Herro and Robinson make the same plays in front of hostile crowds? Maybe they do, maybe they don't.

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121. "I don't believe in asterisks."
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you could find something every year that's a woulda/coulda/shoulda for teams that won and teams that didn't. a chip is a chip.

everybody's playing in the same bubble. and we'll never know if the clippers would've stopped the Lakers. its their fault not getting the finals. If you can't close a team that's down 3-1, well....

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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125. "I do, I gave the Spurs one for '99 so I'll take this one"
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130. "I'm yet to hear a single person talk about Duncan's 4.5 titles"
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and that's because nobody considers that '99 title to be anything other than what it was: a championship title no ifs buts or ands

  

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131. "."
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133. "I do especially when people try to put him above Shaq."
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126. "nobody cares"
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102. "Asterisk "
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Completely kidding of course


Only Fucking losers talk like that.

Congrats to LA

  

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104. "Yea, I’m good. I’ll find a movie or something to watch."
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<---
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106. "lol"
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115. "We do not care (c)Mike Tomlin..."
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Joking, cuz I really like the Heat...but, what you gonna do? Miami was the beneficiary of a Giannis injury. Shit sucks, but they’re human beings and they’re not bulletproof.

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105. "Pippen: The NBA bubble is “pick up” basketball "
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His words:

"Well, I'm going to be honest. It's not NBA basketball. It's not the hard grind. It's not the travel. It's not the fans. It's not the distractions. Really, to me, it's pickup basketball. It's going to the gym. Yeah, you already got your team. Y'all practicing together. But it's a more of a pickup type of basketball game, because there's no fans in the stands. So there is no distraction. There's no real noise. There's no pressure on the players, you know. Prime example: I looked at Rondo. Rondo ain't made three pointers in his whole NBA career. Now, all of a sudden, he's in a bubble, he's probably a 50% three point shooter. I haven't even checked the stats."

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Pippen's claim about Rondo's three-point shooting in the bubble is correct. During this postseason, the Los Angeles Lakers guard is shooting 44.8 percent from beyond the arc, which is quite an uptick from his 31.6 percent shooting percentage from three over his 14-year NBA career.

The Bulls legend isn't the only NBA legend who has bashed the bubble recently.

https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/scottie-pippen-thinks-play-in-nba-bubble-is-pickup-basketball-theres-no-pressure-on-the-players/amp/

Will champions across all sports league be respected for winning a title in a bubble?

I know I’m going to hate a little bit regarding the lakers title, but I think if the Dodgers win the title, after constantly choking during a normal baseball season, they will definitely be perceived as paper champs.







  

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112. "Playoff Rondo!"
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114. "Let me spell this title out for you: H I S T O R I C"
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118. "You mad bugging."
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And if he doesn’t replicate it the following year in a normal season/ space


ASTERISK.

The Bubble Chip is going to be real, bro. Even Kobe’s 5 rings with MVPau are more real.

- one chip due to draymond being suspended
- on chip in a bubble with the heat’s major stars being injured
- 2 chips because he built a big three.

Be prepared for the news articles and having to battle that shit for the rest of your life.


Future battles are going to be great.

  

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120. "This will only be a thing with non-serious analysts "
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GTFO with this jilted lover analysis.

The only change in the narrative this year should LeBron get his 4th 'chip will be: it's impossible to not have him in the top 3 GOAT discussion.

He has taken 5 different coaches; 4 diff. teams (2007 Cavs; '11-'14 Heat, '15-'18 Cavs; '20 Lakers) to the Finals - and if he wins this year - he will have won a title with all 3 teams, achieving yet another unprecedented feat that no other GOAT-level candidate has claim to. It will be the most dominant and complete 10-year stretch in the history of the sport, with finals berths every.single.time he's appeared in the playoffs over a decade (9).

But to win it *this* year in particular? When so many of the game's elite couldn't hang w/ the mental/psychological toll the Bubble has exacted on its participants, with all the social unrest/chaos occurring in the world? Bouyed by the fact that LeBron actually led a meeting to exit the bubble to protest state violence against our brothers and sisters in the streets? Then to come back from that and capture the 'chip in year 17? Yikes. Giannis? Couldn't hang. Kawhi? choked. Harden? moment was too big. Meanwhile, LeBron gentlemen swept the Western conference - and is vying for a title that Kevin Durant rightfully characterized as being *more* respected than titles in normal seasons, citing the circumstances and adversities facing the players.

Get ready. Just like Ali's unfathomable KO of Foreman later in his career etched him as the GOAT; this 'chip would imprint a golden stamp on LeBron's legacy (both on and off the court), having achieved two of the game's most historic 'chips in its history, and having earned it the hard way.

No other player in the game's history created such landslides with their entry/exit to a franchise. This will be his 3rd team that he's rescued from obscurity/lottery land (in this case - a 10 year drought for the game's most prestigious franchise!) - only to transform them into champions.

You better hope Miami can rally and take this 'chip - because the book will be closed; train will have left the station (if it hasn't already) - and no serious person can say with a straight face that LeBron James doesn't have an objective case to be the GOAT.




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117. "All it took was one game for you to go from"
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"Lakers will get cooked" to bringing out the asterisks. Impressive.

  

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119. "^^Bitter Bitches^^"
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This might be the dumbest thing Pippen's ever said publicly.

1st & foremost: He has absolutely no clue what kind of pressure exists while playing under current conditions.

2nd: Every team playing this year faces the same challenges, so there are no unfair advantages to exploit.

Its funny watching skeptics search for every angle to discredit current events for the sake of propping up previous accomplishments. Last time that I checked, no one discredited the latter half of Pippen's career because he never won a ring without Jordan. He talks about pressure, but he couldn't face the pressure of negotiating a better contract throughout his own career LOL. No one puts an asterisk next to the only ring Garnett ever won because he teamed up with Pierce, Allen, & Rondo to get it. They sound like bitter old men.


*BTW: you might wanna look up the term "paper champion" to understand why that term doesn't apply here LOL.



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122. "He is a basketball player. You’re not."
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He is simply giving an analysis. No need to call him a bitch.

Correction: bubble champions.

Lol

  

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132. "I never discredited him..."
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..and you can't discredit me.

Nothing Pippen says matters because he's never faced these current circumstances. He's simply being a bitter bitch, and I called him out on it.

No harm, no foul.

Meanwhile, the Lakers are well on their way to another ring.

Keep making excuses.


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135. "You can counter what he is saying."
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No problem. However, there is no need to call him a bitch, or anyone else for that matter.



  

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137. "Okay, player. LOL"
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123. "sounds like Scottie hasn't played pickup ball in quite some time lol"
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neither of us have though


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www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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127. "Re: Dodgers....nah"
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They’ve gotta go through more teams than anyone ever has with the expanded playoffs. They don’t get to play in their home stadium in the playoffs anymore. And the only reason they don’t already have a title is Houston cheated and stole it in ‘17.

  

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136. "There is enough on both sides of the argument to say bubble ball is"
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Easier and tougher. It should be ranked the same as any other chip. I think we have enough evidence that shows that ballets gonna ball and wack ass niggas like PG wont whether they in a bubble or not.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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134. "Unleash Udonis!!"
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Might as well.

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138. "when was the last time UD played in an actual game?"
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140. "8/15/20. Went for 7pts and 8 boards."
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2/22/20 before that

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139. "Udonis is on that Danny Glover..."I'm too old for this""
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Bam out, Dragan out. Spo and Riley better have Meyers Leonard packed in bath salts until 15 minutes before tip off.

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141. "Hell yea"
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142. "Why is Thatruth the only honest lakers fan in the world?"
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Everybody else: the lakers and bron are the greatest in the universe, including the marvel and dc expanded universe.

Acting like this wasn’t going to get hit with an asterisk....

I’m not going to hate on Lewack and the Fakers getting a ring. But at the same time this is the same nigga talking about he was pissed off for not getting the MVP award, one that he didnt deserve, and last year that nigga didn’t even want to acknowledge Giannis as the MVP. Talking about yeah, I tip my hat to him...and that was it.

I’ll take the L , but that shit getting an asterisk.

And if you don’t repeat in front of regular booing ass fans , I’m going in on some diehard no shoes Bruce Willis shit.

And Vex is insufferable. That nigga is going to wear a lebron choker and intentionally go bald in the middle of his hair.







  

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143. "why are you such a pathetic bitch?"
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this season was never going to be hit with an asterisk. that's only for cheating.

  

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144. "^^ Hugh Maghd"
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145. "Didn’t read beyond the title but why are you still trolling up these t..."
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I think you’ve literally ruined every basketball thread this season.

  

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146. "Two hours plus of complaining about the refs on deck??"
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Save your keystrokes, it's a wrap.

Those rings and trophy won't have an asterisk.
And I'm not a Laker fan

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147. "Lakers wearing Gigi's number tonight..."
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..#2 patch on Kobe's chosen black jersey.

Already throwing their weight around.

LOL @ Kuz trying to throw no-look passes.



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150. "It’s a part of these jerseys "
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________________________________________
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156. "I know, but we don't have much else to talk about lol..."
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..Miami doesn't have a lot to talk about.


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155. "It's been a part of the Black Mamba kits since 2/24 afaik nm"
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But hell, what do I know?

  

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148. "Bron don’t let no mf named Duncan guard you!"
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________________________________________
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149. "Watching Herro and Robinson play defense is painful"
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151. "Play great D. Chuck 3s and be big. I do this on 2K"
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These 3s will fall in the 2nd half

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152. "68-54, Lakers @ the half..."
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..Lakers getting it done with defense.

Jimmy Butler says I am Groot.

Hondo Rondo controlling the tempo.

Bron has 6 assist already.

This could get ugly.


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153. "Miami has shot 17 FT’s to the Lakers’ 10"
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THIS IS SOME BULLSHIT!!!!

  

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157. "LOL."
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154. "this shit sucks as a neutral. "
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after being invested in bubble ball for three months or whatever we get this? fucking 2020 man.

wasn't expecting Miami to win, but 5-6 games of competitive basketball would've been nice. even after the game 1 shitshow I would still expect Miami to grind it out and put up a respectable showing, if healthy. losing dragic and bam is just fucking tragic for the game.

  

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159. "All season the Clippers were the only team expected to give the Lakers....."
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trouble I don’t know why people are acting like the NBA just started in the bubble

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161. "Milwaukee and Miami were the answer..."
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..according to allStah lol.


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163. "Enjoy your bubble chip. "
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Or like some of the NBA players are saying:

Pick up basketball champions of the world.

  

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164. "Bitter bitches unite! LOL..."
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..LOL @ "some players" being Garnett & Pippi LongSuffering.



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168. "We will! Enjoy your last chip that could legally drink if it were a pers..."
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166. "def disappointing. didn't care who won or even made it to the finals"
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just wanted more good basketball games to watch. i do not like this trend of finals series being completely decided by which team has the fewest serious injuries but it's part of the game and partially a result of how the season is structured. maybe in the offseason important nba folks will figure out a plan to work towards minimizing occurrences like this. i don't think anyone actually likes it when only one team has all their best players on the court

  

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178. "A solid training staff can't be discounted..."
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..The Lakers dealt with their fair share of injuries throughout the season. I can't speak for every team in the league, but LA has always been known for having an incredible training staff.

On top of that, Bron kept the entire squad active during the initial shutdown and quarantine. Seeing the squad out together for runs was more than inspiring. It showed their resilience and commitment to winning.




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158. "we bullshitting"
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160. "Settling for shots from the perimeter..."
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..and not getting back on defense.

Someone on that team better speak on it. You don't want to give a team like Miami hope.



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162. "Much better coaching by Spo."
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Keep it as close as you can to give yourself a chance. This should have been the
strategy in the first game during the first half. Made no sense to play man to man
In the first half, or not switching to a zone when Bam got into Foul trouble.

Also, heat are much better offensively with Olynk on the floor when Bam isn’t available.
That’s Another thing Spo didn’t do in the first half in the last game.

Kelly and Nunn definitely providing a spark like they did in second half of the last game.

Glad Spo learned from that. That’s your strength right now, and can build off it for the next game...and possibly get Bam back.

  

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165. "124-114, Lakers..."
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..LA wins despite a less than stellar effort in the 2nd half.

Lakers playing to the level of their competition is never a good look.

IAmGroot damn-near put up a triple double for Miami.

Bron: 33/9/9
AD: 32/14

Straight west coastin'.

2 more wins.




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167. "2. More. "
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169. "An Asterisk?? Seriously?"
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If the season stopped and the Lakers were crowned Champions, maybe discuss this but they're on pace to be champion. The Bron legacy discussion is available for anotgmher time but right now enjoy the game.

  

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170. "Don’t pay attention to the senile guy. "
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171. "An oddly ugly win. Is 47 3s a Laker record?"
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172. "The Lakers win a chip - instant asterisk. Anyone else? Historic. "
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173. "RE: The Lakers win a chip - instant asterisk. Anyone else? Historic. "
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Clearly Rajon Rondo's 3 point shooting is the only thing benefiting from bubble play.

  

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176. "It applied to other teams as well. That’s why players are talking abou..."
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Hell, we even talked about it in the reopen post before the bubble took place. And there were people who stated that it would get an asterisk.

When cats were lighting it up with scoring like Lillard, Levert, etc, and teams were shooting out of their minds...It was great to watch, but it was also too easy.

There are no fans. There are no road games. There are no distractions when free throws are being shot. There is no home court adv. It’s not a regular NBA environment.
There were a lot of star players who weren’t themselves inside the bubble.
Kemba just talked about how he was not himself inside the bubble.

As much as I hate the lakers; I never clowned y’all for last year, because lebron was hurt. It wasn’t a normal situation.

And then you add on to the fact that Giannis got badly injured back in game one against the heat. Zack Collins and Lillard were seriously injured. Daniel House was expelled. And now Bam and Dragic are seriously injured.

Seriously, Asterisk city, bro.

  

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177. "TLDR: Clippers weren’t what you thought and you’re mad. "
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Edit:this you?

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CyrenYoung
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179. "^^^HAZ ALL THE RECEIPTS^^^"
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>Edit:this you?
>
>https://i.redd.it/43nrbh0f9tq51.jpg


LMAO! Now THAT was a READ.

Ls upon Ls upon Ls upon Ls © Phife




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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182. "well put, halfway home"
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>Edit:this you?
>
>https://i.redd.it/43nrbh0f9tq51.jpg

of course what was conveniently unmentioned by our management analyst was the tragic shocking death of top 3 Laker ever and how that impacted the team, the day after the current top Laker surpassed his scoring mark.

Pistons and Lakers in the 80s beat each other with key injuries but I never hear those titles being asterisked. Time smooths out all conditional arguments.


btw inbox lol

  

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184. "Lmao "
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Yikes!

  

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180. "this dumbfuck said "Daniel House." What a fucking fool"
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you only get an asterisk if you cheat.

  

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183. "Lakers up 2-0 in the finals! Cry some more!"
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185. "The asterisk argument is a logical fallacy."
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Is everyone in the same bubble as the Lakers?

Yes.

Did everyone have the same amount of time off before the bubble began?

Yes.

Did everyone start playing in the bubble at the same time?

Yes.

Everyone is playing on a level playing field. As much as you lament the circumstances, lack of travel, etc, while talking up how supposedly "easy" it is to play this game during a global pandemic while largely cutoff from close contact with friends and family, you're actually making the case against an asterisk.

The lack of travel, the lack of home court advantages, etc, all mean that everyone was on as even a playing field as we've ever had. Every team had, largely, the same contextual advantages and disadvantages.

If it's so "easy", that means everyone else had that same "easy" path- injuries notwithstanding.

Every "asterisk" argument hinges on the circumstances being different than nearly every other NBA title, but that's deeply flawed reasoning.

We can go through and start striking all manner of titles for having less than ideal circumstances. We may as well strike the entire 1960's title teams, because the league had less than 14 teams. They started the decade with ten, before expanding to a whopping 14!

Then, as far as injuries go... god knows how many of those we can strike down. Then there are the lockout seasons, so there those go.

There's another big, fat, gaping problem with the asterisk arguments:

They're all rooted in the notion that the results would definitely be different without the bubble, something you cannot possibly prove.

Even the most well reasoned argument, with advanced stats, charts, graphs, schematics, experiments, 2K20 simulations, expert analysis, you name it, still relies exclusively on a counterfactual fallacy.

It assumes what would or would not have happened if conditions were different. It's reasonable to conclude that different circumstances would lead to different outcomes, yet even with deep analysis, there's simply no way to account for the variables- injuries, illness, suspensions, different matchups, seeding, etc, that could have arisen under those circumstances.

What we do know, for a fact, is that under these conditions, given as level a playing field as we've ever seen in the NBA, the Lakers and Heat are in the finals, and the Clippers choked away a 3-1 lead.

  

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189. "No everyone didn’t start playing at the same time "
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or have the same preparation.

—- Montrez Harrell came late into bubble and had no prior preseason due to his grandmother dying

— Westbrook was in isolation due to Covid, and came later in the PO just like Harrell . He was not allowed to train while he was in quarantine.

—- Danuel House who held Lebron scoreless for almost entire second half of a game. Houston lost the only player on the their team who could effectively guard lebron. He gets expelled, bron goes off for close to 40.

— Porzingis got injured and was done for the season

—/ Giannis picked up a severe ankle injury, and was unable to play in the Miami series

— now Bam and Dragic ...leading scorers and assist players for the heat—they are out of the series.

So no, all things were not equal...not even close.


Lakers had help along the way. Even in the Portland series, Portland immediately lost Zack Collins ( a tall do it all big) in the first game, then they later lost Lillard.

Here is the funny shit, lakers fans were saying the reason why lebron beat Golden State was because draymond got suspend for a game ...and Kawhi only won because Thompson and KD went down..

Now that Lebron is on your team y’all can’t accept what y’all dished out.

  

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190. "You ignored the bubble entirely."
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>or have the same preparation.
>
>—- Montrez Harrell came late into bubble and had no prior
>preseason due to his grandmother dying

>— Westbrook was in isolation due to Covid, and came later in
>the PO just like Harrell . He was not allowed to train while
>he was in quarantine.

>—- Danuel House who held Lebron scoreless for almost entire
>second half of a game. Houston lost the only player on the
>their team who could effectively guard lebron. He gets
>expelled, bron goes off for close to 40.
>
>— Porzingis got injured and was done for the season
>
>—/ Giannis picked up a severe ankle injury, and was unable
>to play in the Miami series
>
>— now Bam and Dragic ...leading scorers and assist players
>for the heat—they are out of the series.
>
>So no, all things were not equal...not even close.

Note how you brought up issues that routinely plague teams in the playoffs. These aren't aberrations, and are in fact part of the game.

This is something I mentioned in my post, in fact.

You don't get to put an asterisk on a season because injuries.
That's how things go down. That's the game. And you'd have to asterisk an awful lot of titles if you're citing injuries as the reason.

For example, I assume you're putting an asterisk next to the Pistons 89 title, since the Lakers were missing Magic and Scott- a lot more critical than, say.. Zack Collins, Montrez Harrell, and and Daniel House.

So that Pistons title gets an asterisk, correct?

Also, strike the Celtics 08 win, since the Lakers were missing Bynum and Ariza, correct?

As I said, you'd have to asterisk a slew of titles, using your cherry picking criteria, because that's part and parcel.

It's very telling that you sidestepped the level playing field of the bubble, and instead decided to focus on a completely mundane part of the game. That's the funny shit.

>Here is the funny shit, lakers fans were saying the reason why
>lebron beat Golden State was because draymond got suspend for
>a game ...and Kawhi only won because Thompson and KD went
>down..
>
>Now that Lebron is on your team y’all can’t accept what
>y’all dished out.

You're talking to me. Not "y'all".

So direct your comments at me, and my comments.

  

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198. "It gets an asterisk "
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It’s just that simple. It doesn’t dilute the trophy. It was won, but the trophy does get notated.

The Heat would get an even bigger asterisk than the lakers if they were to win it.. They were tough, and they played hard before the bubble season was implemented, but they wouldn’t have gotten this far in a normal NBA setting. The bubble was a huge advantage for them.

The Clippers were playing their best basketball before the bubble occurred, and then the basketball season was interrupted, and that was a huge disadvantage for them. Lou Williams wasn’t the same. Harrell wasn’t the same.

That’s the problem with the bubble. It created an advantage for some and a disadvantage for others. That makes it an uneven playing field. All players are familiar with a regular NBA environment, so no adjustments are needed to endure whatever scenario is presented. If an adjustment is needed, it’s usually rookie players who have to become acclimated because of their lack of familiarity.

The Suns were undefeated in the Bubble, smoking everyone. You think that would happen in a normal situation? Hell No. They weren’t playing like that Pre-Bubble.

Let’s look at the Milwaukee Bucks. This is the same team that went on strike, and were willing to forfeit a win as a form of protest against social injustice and civil unrest in America. George Hill stated that he didn’t even want to be there, and there were other Bucks who felt the same way. The Lakers didn’t do that. So you mean to tell me a team that doesn’t want to be there, is just going to turn it on, and be in a Championship state of mind, and really, really care about wining under those circumstances? They were going to give the series to the Magic and go back to Milwaukee.


That wasn’t the same Milwaukee Bucks team that was playing at a high level prior to the bubble. Even before the strike, and coming into the bubble, they were playing like crap. A lot of players weren’t even working out or keeping in shape while the league was shut down . They were focused on their families and keeping safe. Plus a lot of facilities were shut down.

There was those teams and players who had access to continue to train and workout, and that also created an advantage in the bubble. Now some will say well they should have focused on their training during the shut down. However, how can someone tell players to focus on basketball training when there were some players who had family members who were sick with Covid 19?

The bubble was a project or environment for the league to save its finances, so all would not be lost for the owners, investors, sponsors, and TV networks. The bubble meant so many different things to so many different people.

Even when the playoffs started, the bubble was labeled as AAU, NCAA Tournament style basketball. That’s why it was so exciting to watch, because it was fast pace, back and forth action that was different from a normal playoff structure.

As far as injuries go, if you feel that a team that won the trophy against another team ,that wasn’t at full strength, doesn’t dilute the victory, then that’s just a matter of opinion. There is no need to go down that road.

Now the Lakers have proven to be the best team in the bubble, in that situation, and in that environment. They will, more then likely, be the last team standing, but it doesn’t go any further than that. They just simply mastered that platform, a platform that has never existed prior to its current existence. ..








  

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200. "You wrote all that... and still didn't explain a single disadvantage."
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>It’s just that simple. It doesn’t dilute the trophy. It
>was won, but the trophy does get notated.

The trophy gets notated? By who? Where?

So Isaiah Thomas has *2 NBA titles?

>The Heat would get an even bigger asterisk than the lakers if
>they were to win it.. They were tough, and they played hard
>before the bubble season was implemented, but they wouldn’t
>have gotten this far in a normal NBA setting. The bubble was a
>huge advantage for them.

What advantage?

>The Clippers were playing their best basketball before the
>bubble occurred, and then the basketball season was
>interrupted, and that was a huge disadvantage for them. Lou
>Williams wasn’t the same. Harrell wasn’t the same.

What was the disadvantage?
Did that disadvantage disappear when they went up 3-1 to Denver?

>That’s the problem with the bubble. It created an advantage
>for some and a disadvantage for others.

You've made this assertion repheatedly, but have yet to explain what they are.

>That makes it an
>uneven playing field. All players are familiar with a regular
>NBA environment, so no adjustments are needed to endure
>whatever scenario is presented. If an adjustment is needed,
>it’s usually rookie players who have to become acclimated
>because of their lack of familiarity.

You mean... like key pieces to the Heat team playing in the Finals?

>The Suns were undefeated in the Bubble, smoking everyone. You
>think that would happen in a normal situation? Hell No. They
>weren’t playing like that Pre-Bubble.

What advantage did the bubble give them?

You explained what they did. Please explain what specific advantages they had, that other teams didn't, specifically granted by the bubble.

>Let’s look at the Milwaukee Bucks. This is the same team
>that went on strike, and were willing to forfeit a win as a
>form of protest against social injustice and civil unrest in
>America. George Hill stated that he didn’t even want to be
>there, and there were other Bucks who felt the same way. The
>Lakers didn’t do that. So you mean to tell me a team that
>doesn’t want to be there, is just going to turn it on, and
>be in a Championship state of mind, and really, really care
>about wining under those circumstances? They were going to
>give the series to the Magic and go back to Milwaukee.

Everyone went on strike.... for a day.

Do you think those Bucks players were the only ones who didn't want to be there?

Wasn't LeBron ready to forfeit the playoffs too?

>That wasn’t the same Milwaukee Bucks team that was playing
>at a high level prior to the bubble. Even before the strike,
>and coming into the bubble, they were playing like crap. A lot
>of players weren’t even working out or keeping in shape
>while the league was shut down . They were focused on their
>families and keeping safe. Plus a lot of facilities were shut
>down.

...because Wisconsin was the only place that had unrest.

There was no unrest anywhere else, and nobody was affected by the current social climate but the Bucks.

Certainly not LeBron, one of the NBA's loudest and most vocal Breonna
Taylor supporters. Right?

>There was those teams and players who had access to continue
>to train and workout, and that also created an advantage in
>the bubble. Now some will say well they should have focused on
>their training during the shut down. However, how can someone
>tell players to focus on basketball training when there were
>some players who had family members who were sick with Covid
>19?

So nobody on the Lakers dealt with this issue?
I assume you have an exhaustive list of every NBA player who had loved ones affected by COVID?

>Even when the playoffs started, the bubble was labeled as AAU,
>NCAA Tournament style basketball. That’s why it was so
>exciting to watch, because it was fast pace, back and forth
>action that was different from a normal playoff structure.
>
>As far as injuries go, if you feel that a team that won the
>trophy against another team ,that wasn’t at full strength,
>doesn’t dilute the victory, then that’s just a matter of
>opinion. There is no need to go down that road.

That's a gross oversimplification. It also presents a valid slippery slope which taints the vast majority of all NBA titles. Part of winning means surviving the carnage that often accompanies an NBA season.

But you know this, and that's why you don't want to go down that road.

>Now the Lakers have proven to be the best team in the bubble,
>in that situation, and in that environment. They will, more
>then likely, be the last team standing, but it doesn’t go
>any further than that. They just simply mastered that
>platform, a platform that has never existed prior to its
>current existence. ..

So did the Lakers somehow play in a bubble, free of COVID, free of social upheaval, sometime prior to this, in order to gain some unfair advantage over everyone else?

Because everyone was new to the bubble.

Every team has to deal with COVID ramifications, and you don't know to what extent every team did, because you don't know everyone's personal business like that.

Every team is dealing with the social unrest.

What's funny is... the Lakers lost Kobe Bryant this year.

He wasn't some old timer. He wasn't a role player. He was an icon. He wasn't a distant memory. He still loomed quite large over the team and city. Lebron had just passed one of his records the night before.

That loss hit the entire league, to be sure, but none more than the Lakers.

But the fact remains: the whole league had to deal with an unprecedented set of circumstances.

  

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201. "You are the worst sore loser on the board..."
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..so bitter that you can't simply admit you were wrong all along.

When the league suspended the season, every team faced unpredictable challenges (injuries, covid, etc.). While everyone else was making their rounds on everything from interviews to IG Live, LA still managed to come together as a group and literally run the city. They maintained their poise on & off the court. That same discipline remained through the restart and playoffs. Now its paying off.

There is no asterisk for being the best.

The Lakers are the best team in the league.

Go home, Roger. LOL




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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203. "Why are you responding?"
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He asked me questions, not you.

We were having a conversation. And you came in with the name calling.

Anyway, I’m not the only with this take. Analysts, players and coaches have been
saying the same thing about the bubble throughout the season.

This is not anything new.

  

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207. "because. that's how message boards work "
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>He asked me questions, not you.

So? Is there some rule preventing others from replying.

It doesn't matter who I asked. It's a message board, ananyone can respond.

But then.... your often very wrong about things, and you do like to deflect a lot, rather than address valid points.

There's a reason you replied to Cy, and not to me.

>Anyway, I’m not the only with this take. Analysts, players
>and coaches have been
>saying the same thing about the bubble throughout the season.

Seriously?
The argument either stands or it doesn't.
You either have strong, compelling evidence, or you don't.

It doesnt matter who agrees with you. You say this as though the opinions of analysts, players, and coaches don't have to adhere to basic logic and reason like anyone else.


>This is not anything new.

"New" is immaterial.

That's it not "new" has no bearing on whether it's a reasonable conclusion.

  

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225. "I did reply to you. I replied to you several times. "
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You chose to disagree. So I don’t need to go back and forth with you on this.

There is no right or wrong here. People are going to have different perceptions. One of your own compatriots agree that it is an asterisk. That’s his view.

Pippen, Garnett....They even don’t view it as a real championship.

You view differently. Aint shit else left to be said.

  

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253. "No, you ignored most of my post"
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I brought up very specific arguments, which you chose to ignore in favor of making broad assertions.

You replied to my screen name, but you damn sure didn't address most of what I actually said.

  

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199. "Worthy was hurt in 91....asterisk for Jordan’s first "
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192. "You also ignored the fallacy involved here. "
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Please address that as well.

  

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196. "Yo...you sound absolutely insane my man "
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You on some Skip Bayless shit

Quite possibly the dumbest sports analysis I’ve ever heard.

  

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181. "This is really a non argument. "
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The Bubble has been intense and considering the change of season and some of the other variables, winning a chip is just as difficult as it would have been during a normal season.

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174. "Anthony Davis is an all time marvel & Rondo is a wizard. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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175. "2 more. Whew. Bron and AD just terrorizing rn"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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186. "Bam and Dragic once again doubtful for Game 3"
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https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1312501098670821376
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Miami’s Bam Adebayo and Goran Dragic being listed doubtful for Game 3 of NBA Finals against the Lakers, sources tell @TheAthleticNBA @Stadium.
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187. "just be honest and say theyre out of the series"
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especially dragic. you arent coming back from a torn anything lower body related in "days". that scale of time is off the table

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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206. "That's not true with the plantar fascia; it's a matter of pain"
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But it's an extremely painful injury

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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188. "**********************"
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191. "Why aren't the Clippers in the Finals?"
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193. "Something something Danuel House"
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197. "Because Trez went to a funeral and Lou went to Magic City"
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Shit ain’t equal for everyone bro

Lol

  

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194. "So would **** apply for any team not named Lakers?"
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Your response won’t make sense but go for it lol

Y'all buy those labels, I was born supreme

  

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195. "nope."
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asterisks are only for cheating.

  

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202. "Some of y'all don't learn, lol. "
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204. "Motherfuckers in here mad because the Lakers are about "
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to win a Summer League Basketball Championship against a team plagued with injuries.

No one in here as ever played NBA basketball before, so when an athlete like Pippen,
one of the greatest to ever play, say it’s basically pickup basketball, then there is some weight to that. And other analysts and players have conveyed similar views.

The bubble was an unusual space with so many irregularities, so, with that, there are going to be question marks.


Even Thatruth agreed with the observation.

I’m not hating. I’m not being a sore loser, just stating what others have already stated.

At the end of that day, y’all have to defend that history.

So I will not speak on the matter anymore. We agree to disagree.

  

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205. "The only person mad around here is YOU..."
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..You've been on this bullshit all season.

Accept your L and move on.




*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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208. "No, you made the claim of an asterisk. The burden of proof is on you."
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We don't have tk defend anything.

You made the asterisk claim, which is a textbook counterfactual fallacy.

I bodied that entire argument above.

You didn't address any of it.

You instead went to a bunch of generic assertions, arguments from authority, appeals to "Tha Truth agreed with me",and other deflections.

You cited advantages some teams have, and disadvantages other teams had, specific to the bubble- but couldn't name a single one.

You cited injuries and player absences, which is a part of every NBA season, and nothing at all unique to the current circumstances.

Make an actual case.
Don't deflect, dodge, or dismiss.

Stand by that shit and make the actual case for an asterisk, without relying on logical fallacies at every possible turn.

  

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212. "First of all it was a 2 MONTH season. "
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A full season with PO ,basically, goes for 7 months, so it’s not a true NBA season. That’s asterisk number 1, and that will get noted as such when it is listed.

It was a micro tournament similar to that of the NCAA tournament, that is what pippen was referring to. There is no other season in NBA history that you can compare this to. You can’t even compare it to the strike shortened season. This was not a true NBA season or true NBA atmosphere.

The NBA did a great job of organizing it on the FLY, and it made for great entertainment, but there are just too many irregularities from top to bottom, for it to be recognized as a real NBA Championship.

That’s my argument. You disagreed with the other examples I presented, so I’m not going to elaborate on those


The NBA should have just listed it as a special tournament, and went from there. That is where the error really exist.



  

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218. "We get it....the games only count when the Lakers lose"
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And I recommend shortening these posts up. Nobody is reading all that bullshit.

  

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245. "micro tournament? the playoffs were the same 7 game series."
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>It was a micro tournament similar to that of the NCAA
>tournament

The NCAA tournament has 7 game series to 4 for each round?

> There is no
>other season in NBA history that you can compare this to. You
>can’t even compare it to the strike shortened season. This
>was not a true NBA season or true NBA atmosphere.

Were all the teams subject to those conditions, or just the Lakers?

You said the Clippers has a disadvantage. Did that disadvantage magically disappear in the first round?

Did that disadvantage disappear for the first 4 games of round 2?
Did that disadvantage magically kick in on game 5?

>The NBA did a great job of organizing it on the FLY, and it
>made for great entertainment, but there are just too many
>irregularities from top to bottom, for it to be recognized as
>a real NBA Championship.

Was every team subject to those irregularities, or just the Clippers and Bucks?

What seed did the Lakers have when The NBA shut down?

>That’s my argument. You disagreed with the other examples I
>presented, so I’m not going to elaborate on those

I didn't "disagree". I dismantle
d them with logic and facts, while asking questions for you to consider.


>The NBA should have just listed it as a special tournament,
>and went from there. That is where the error really exist.

Nah. It was the NBA playoffs, in NBA playoff format, with all the teams in the same bubble, under the same rules.

  

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209. "Lol at you trying to convince yourself that this year doesn’t count."
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Repeating the same pointless things over and over from post to post.

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210. "I give asterisks to everybody but like I said the ring still counts lol...."
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I'm an old school traditionalist and I said at the beginning of the playoffs in the bubble that it would be an asterisk for whomever won. I'm not going to be hypocritical and switch up because the Lakers have a 2-0 lead in the Finals. The Lakers are doing what they were supposed to do. The Clippers and Bucks were the only teams expected to give them any trouble in the playoffs and they both lost in the 2nd round so oh well, that's not our fault.

We were the #1 seed in the West in the regular season and like the old OKS saying have "played to seed". Its not like we're some 7th or 8th seed that came out of nowhere.

But I gave "asterisks" to the 19 Raptors, the 15 Warriors, the 99 Spurs, the 91 Bulls, and the 01 Patriots for various reasons.

4 of those 5 teams won titles after that so people forget. Kawhi left the Raptors after 1 season so we'll never know what would've happened there.

This Laker team may or may not win another title, Lebron's age & AD's potential free agency are all major questions.

At the end of the day the banner still hangs, "asterisks" are just something for fan conversations like "GOAT" arguments. 2020 will be remembered as a weird year for a lot of reasons. Scottie is probably still mad about how he was portrayed in The Last Dance lol.

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211. "“catch the ball with 2 hands!” -Bron"
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213. "we bullshitting again. pathetic."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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215. "Lol...cut it out, bro...y’all still gone win, comfortably "
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216. "it isnt about just winning. i want foot on neck"
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we aint really played hard since the end of the 3rd game 1. bron and AD know it too and they not happy but they just as much part of it.

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217. "I hear you, but when y’all have a 3-0 lead..."
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in a couple of hours...the foot will be firmly on the neck.

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243. "I’ll hold that L...thought surely he Lakers would flip the switch "
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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214. "Apparently the lakers don’t give a fuck tonight"
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219. "Big Face Java dialed in tonight "
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220. "Swish!"
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221. " Bron is upset with his children"
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222. "I love AD but he’s not a “top 5” player, folks need to stop saying..."
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that. Top 10 yes, top 5 no.

It’s obvious why his teams never had success with him as the lead dog. He a Pippen. An ultra-Pippen on steroids but he’s still a Pippen.

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264. "I disagree..."
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..Who replaces him in your top 5?


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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282. "I got Bron, Giannis, KD, Kawhi, Steph & Harden tie for 5th, AD is not..."
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better than any of those dudes.

is he better than Embiid? Luka? Dame?

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298. "I gotta laugh @ that Harden pick..."
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..Steph gets an honorable mention, but he's not edging out AD.

Harden?

Hell no.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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223. "58-54, Miami @ halftime..."
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..Sloppy play plaguing the 1st half for the Lakers.

14 turnovers! That's not gonna cut it. It appears the Lakers aren't taking this game seriously and that would be a huge misstep on their part.

Miami's playing scrappy and smart.

This won't be easy tonight.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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224. "Still like their chances in this game. "
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226. "aint no punk in miami. much respect to em."
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227. "Kieff-dog!"
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228. "good twin"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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231. "It’s funny because the entire league fought against us tooth and nail...."
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when we were trying to get Marcus in the off-season and during the season. We ended up signing Keiff off waivers and he has been the better twin inside the bubble

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241. "Wasted a great Kieff game. Ah well. "
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229. "vogel gotta get dwight off the oak man"
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it dont make no sense to not use him. he can change the game,

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230. "bron really complaining about that travel call."
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234. "he knew he traveled lol."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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272. "CRAB DRIBBLE!"
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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232. "Jimmy putting in work tonight. "
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peace & blessings,

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236. "1st team all dog. "
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233. "Buckets treating the lakers like the T'wolves starting 4 in practice rn."
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peace & blessings,

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235. "The mechanic!"
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237. ""Masterpiece from Jimmy Butler" - Breeny"
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Gotta tip the cap to the man, he went full Dwyane Wade on the Lakers and got it the legit way. Guy's been on the floor all night.

That said, this is a pretty classic Game 3 loss so I'm not sure it matters in the grand scheme of things, but you love to see the Heat put up a fight like that.

You also hate to see LeBron pull his usual march off the floor before the game is over, though maybe that's just even more motivation for these Heat boys to make it a series.

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244. "Fantastic performance on the biggest stage."
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238. "honestly a disgusting performance on both ends"
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bron and AD should be ashamed they just allowed us to not only lose but get skullfucked by Jimmy and shrink from his intensity. vogel gotta give his check back for this one too.

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239. "Post 219."
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Shoot Bam up for game 4 and it’s really eyebrow raising time

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242. "I’d be surprised if he’s back "
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But also you can’t give these guys life. A game 4 loss is better than a game 3 loss. Smh.

*waits for allstah to feign over Jimmy after thinking he shouldn’t be a Bull anymore*

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246. "Would be surprised but I wouldn’t rule it out"
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251. "Why are you bringing my name up?"
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It’s like you have an inferiority complex.

I don’t have anything against Jimmy, never will. He is a great player, and he is in a good situation after bouncing around from different teams.


When he was here in Chicago, it wasn’t that way. he was a locker room
problem, and the way he treated Hoilberg in his first year was very disrespectful.
And he pretty much carried a bad reputation throughout the league.

I’m not like you who said Rondo was trash. Now you’re all on his nuts. There is a huge
difference between me and you.

In the bubble, Jimmy has reinvented himself and his image. Good stuff.

You just worry about your lakers choking. They were up 2-0 against a team without 2 of of their best players. Like you said about the clippers...no excuses.



  

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252. "Because you’re a sore loser ass clown. "
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255. "So basically you brought my name up "
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for no reason at all, with no point at all.

And no, I’m not a sore loser. I will acknowledge the lakers as champions - if they win it - but with an asterisk. That’s all.

One of your colleagues feels the same way, but I’m a sore loser? ..okay.

You enjoy your night ...until next game.

  

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257. "I love how your main argument is "this other person agrees with me""
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Question:

If Scottie, KG, and Tha Truth all think you wake up each day and eat a bowl of your own shit for breakfast, would that make it true, or even likely to be true?

That's wild.

All Stah wakes up each day and eats a bowl of his own shit for breakfast.

It's ddefinitely true, because someone said it.

  

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260. "You still responding to me? After you said you wouldn’t?"
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Hm.

Weird.

It’s as if you changed your mind on something...but I know you don’t do that, right?

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Cold Truth
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261. "to be fair, he eats a bowl of his own shit every day"
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>Hm.
>
>Weird.
>
>It’s as if you changed your mind on something...but I know
>you don’t do that, right?

So there's no telling how he actually arrives at conclusions. I imagine there's a lot of waffling.

  

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240. "Not shocked at a loss. "
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Surprised they played as poorly as they did.

Bron is gonna chew these dudes out. But Jimmy had the game of his life and it was close. I’m not worried yet...but AD has to be better.

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247. "D J A N G O"
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Yes, I'm mad. Let's move on.

Jays | Cavs | Eagles | Sabres | Tarheels

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249. "Jimmy out here lookin' like Denzel in Hateful 8..."
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..lol.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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256. "Denzel wasn’t in the Hateful 8 "
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258. "I was gonna say, you mean Channing Tatum?"
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~~~~~~~~~
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259. "I meant The Magnificent 7 lol."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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248. "115-104, Miami..."
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..Turnovers and a lazy effort to begin the game led to the Lakers playing catch-up all game.

Miami continued knocking down timely shots and hustling for every possession to hold on for the win.

Props to Spo for keeping his team morale high.

Lakers have some work to do.

2 more wins.



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250. "It’s like I stated earlier about the first game, where "
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Spo didn’t go to Olynk until late in the third quarter. It was way too late then.
Had he gone to Olynk in that first half when Bam got into foul trouble, this could possibly be a different series. He is a horrible defender and rebounder, but he is offensively intelligent, stretches the floor, and forces bigs to come out of the paint to guard his 3 point shooting. He is also great in pick and roll and screen situations. That allows Jimmy to get into the paint for easy buckets.

He is one of the main reasons why the Heat are playing a lot better.

Their second leading scorer and leading assist maker is out. Their leading rebounder, third leading scorer , and I believe second leading assist maker is out. This team has nothing to lose, and should be down 0-3 considering the casualties to their squad....



  

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254. "I knew there were reasons Danny Green basically lost his starting job..."
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Toronto in the Finals last year to Fred Van Vleet but I was hoping it wasn’t THIS bad. Dude is useless on the court, made us go to JR. KCP hits a couple in row every now and then but where getting nothing from Green. Where is Dion? Where is THT? Quinn Cook?

Those dudes can’t defend Herro?

I hope they show that smirk to Rondo 100 times.

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262. "I can't wait until game 4! I wish it was right now! mf's are going to be..."
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so hyped on both sides. will we see some bath salts? can Jimmy Buckets run it back? will AD realize he's 6'11"? can the youngins in Miami backup their shit talk including the Herro sneer? Can Vogel make the right adjustments? Was Jimmy right when he said the Lakers are "in trouble"?

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263. "Lakers have played like this in 1 game of each series"
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No reason to believe this will become a trend. Lakers in 5.

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265. "And now its AD’s fault that Jimmy went off for 40?"
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Everybody blaming AD? Damn I can’t wait until he comes back home.

Every sports show blaming AD...So it’s all Lebron when they win, but all AD when they lose.

To my understanding, Jimmy was guarded by lebron ..not AD.

And Lebron told Jimmy he was in trouble in the first quarter ....talking shit to a squad that is missing major players. ....Jimmy told him the same thing in the 4th.

  

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266. "no its AD's fault he's 6'11" and had 5 rebounds"
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267. "AD played way below par "
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LeBron played a little below par(too many TOs).

KCP, Green, and Rondo all played poorly.

Only Morris and Kuzma played better than their normal levels.

You better hope that keeps happening. Probably won’t though.

  

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268. "what are you talking about now "
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269. "LABron choked simple and plain"
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This is the second biggest upset in history. Lebron's legacy is tarnished again if they lose to a Heat team filled full of castaways missing two of their top 3 players.

No empathy for white misery (c) BDot

"root for everybody black haters say that's crazy, wow..."

  

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270. "aren’t you a Cleveland fan?"
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271. "“ My Nigga” - Denzel in Training Day."
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You see that, Cyren? That’s a proper Denzel reference.




  

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274. "You think the MVP is a fake award. You calling people out now?"
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smh

sad

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275. "Literally nobody has blamed AD for Jimmy."
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They blamed AD for dumb fouls, turnovers, and playing poorly.

Why don't you point out otherwise, you weirdo?

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276. "AD received a ton of praise for the first 2 wins"
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Y’all Kenton haters are a weird bunch.

****************
TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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277. "jesus."
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273. "THE BUTLERIAN JIHAD!"
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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278. "why are yall still replying to that man lmao"
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281. "Wonder what the post count would be without him"
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283. "right I reply to him about actual sports things but all the personal..."
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back and forth shit I just don't get I guess I'm getting old lol

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291. "Boredom. Still 'tined up."
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451. "^^^My question for the last 10 years"
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lol

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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L D E A

  

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279. "Is Bam hooping tonight or what?"
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<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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280. "i hope the fuck so, so vogel will play Dwight"
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i love the flexibility we've shown all season but sometimes i think Vogel leans too much on it. we need to impose our will and Dwight is still mobile enough to get out and cover Olynyk

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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292. "Howard can’t stick with Olynk outside the paint."
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That has already been proven. I actually think for this series, it was a blessing in disguise that Bam got hurt. Styles make fights. Bam isn’t an outside shooter who is going to stretch the floor. He lives in the paint, so the lakers are going to pack the paint with their bigs. That prevents players from getting to rim.

Olynk forces bigs to come out to the Arc, where he is basically un-guardable because he can shoot over anyone because of his height.

Even if Bam is available, Olynk should still see a lot of minutes....There are just more driving lanes and space when he is on the court.

  

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294. " Olynk can’t stick with Howard inside the paint..."
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or AD or Bron.

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295. "Of course he can’t, he is terrible defensively and on rebounds "
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That wasn’t the point. The point is that Howard can’t guard him inside our out, and he isn’t as talented offensively.

And keep in mind the play of the last game was Olynk drawing an offensive foul
On AD.

But the question is can he keep it up? ...very crafty player.

  

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301. "It goes both ways Herro and Robinson are great offensive players..."
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but they can’t guard anybody.

Basketball is a 2 way sport lol

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302. "No doubt ."
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But the point is Olynk spreads the floor, so heat players can eat in the paint. Howard and McGee don’t spread the floor. That’s the difference. And they can’t guard, and he even makes for a difficult guard for Davis.

Olynk brings a special asset to the floor that really disrupts the lakers defense, so he makes for a hard cover. He is a highly intelligent player offensively.

But he does suck defensively.

  

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297. "Bam is playing tonight."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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306. "Oh yea. Let's go"
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<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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284. "Game 4 theme music:"
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Y'all told me I was ridiculous to imagine a 7 game series and that this was going to be a sweep. Well, the sweep shit is gone...let's see if the Heat can make this series interesting this evening:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6TLWqn82J4

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285. "more like this...:"
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>Y'all told me I was ridiculous to imagine a 7 game series and
>that this was going to be a sweep. Well, the sweep shit is
>gone...let's see if the Heat can make this series interesting
>this evening:
>
>
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q6TLWqn82J4



Lakes in 5...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l0U7SxXHkPY

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440. "“Hunnid thousand for the cheapest ring on a nigga finger lil bitch!”"
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290. "butler is focused"
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team is behind him. definitely saw them getting a win. looks like it took quite a bit to get that one win.

tonight will be interesting. if lakers dont take care of business they might be in trouble.

  

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286. "If I never see that fake ass snarl again by Herro I’ll be a happy man..."
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287. "man if they don't eat his fucking food tonight! I want to see him cry."
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288. "Lol"
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<---
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289. "I need Rondo, KCP, Kieff, JR somebody to get a flagrant non-basketball....."
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type call on his ass

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304. "wow, you guys are that desperate, huh?"
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needing to act all gully with a rookie and whatnot.

  

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311. "A rookie should stay in his place..."
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>needing to act all gully with a rookie and whatnot.

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313. "this is the take of a 70 year old white male. what the fuck"
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goddamn people say some stupid shit when their team is involved.

  

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319. "If you can’t take the heat stay your ass out the kitchen - I don’t....."
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why you’re trying to act brand new it was the same way with MJ - most folks knew not to talk smack to him, same as if you’re a rookie with a limited game, don’t try to showboat when you’re down 1-2

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293. "Can the heat sustain their performance?"
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They are a completely different team than what they were in game 1.
Kelly Olynk being the difference maker for the heat. 24 points in the first
Game without Bam, and 17 points in the second game without Bam.

Including playoffs, the Heat are 24-9 this season when Olynyk hits double figures in scoring. His 17 points in Game 3 came on 5-for-9 shooting, 3-for-5 from beyond the 3-point line.

If Bam is available, how will Spo play it?

Like Jimmy stated, if it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.

Also, Nunn wasn’t much of a factor. Jimmy handled the point for most of the game.
However, Jimmy played every minute of the last game, and has clocked serious minutes throughout the PO.

  

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296. "Why is Myers Leonard a thing? "
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He’s somehow become the face of the Heat in these Finals.

There’s like 4 or 5 white dudes on this team and somehow he’s getting all this hype because he is a great cheerleader? This ain’t March Madness. Why they keep showing this dude?


What am I missing?

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299. "He stands for the anthem? I dunno. "
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300. "Yep before the Finals they did a story about how his brother joined the...."
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military after 9/11 before that I didn’t even realize he was on the Heat I was like of all people why are they doing a story on him lol

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303. "Bam's back, and Goran's gonna try to play."
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If you're scared, get a dog.

If the Lakers lose to this team, even if Goran and Bam were healthy, they truly never deserved the title.

But I've got the Lakers in 6 and stand by it.

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305. "Breh Dragic looked horrible in that warmup they showed"
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like “you need surgery ASAP to have any chance at securing the FA bag” horrible

that’s such a shit injury to get too.

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307. "Be prepared Miami for Dwight with the fake goon shit on Bam tonight"
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<---
Fuck a sig, my presence is enough.

  

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308. "Bron ain't playin' around tonight..."
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..that fool just took it to the rim against the youngster!


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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309. "Call CPS. Bron abusing children"
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<---
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322. ""GET UP DOG!"....young boy laid out, contused...."
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310. "WHERE THAT SMIRK AT?!"
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312. "Bron and AD need to meet Jimmy challenge "
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We can’t let him beat both of them like game 3

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314. "Crowder was so corny for that"
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Miami got some weird dudes on that team.

  

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315. "Kieff-dog!"
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316. "danny green shooting like draymond green."
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317. "Miami is just so impressive. "
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Obviously Spo is an amazing coach but it’s not a coincidence Bron has a stupid amount of TOs two games in a row.

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318. "Dwyane Wade 2006 BS"
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Clean block by Davis.

  

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320. "Lebron extra bitchy tonight"
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321. "AD and Bron this ain’t it. We won’t win like this"
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They got to leave it all out there. AD hesitating to just shoot open jumpers.

Bron this dude look like he annoyed at how scrappy Miami is being,

They gotta find some fire at half time the role players have done their jobs

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323. "Being up 2 is...lucky. "
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Bron is wasting a great bench game. Whining too much after every drive he bricks. Cmon man. He’s had bursts of “ah it’s gonna be a game like that” and then starts complaining.

AD has entered back in the FMVP discussion if they win.

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324. "Only time LeBron looks like he gives a fuck"
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is when he's bitching at the refs.

  

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325. "bron flustered."
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326. "49-47, Lakers @ the half..."
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..A relatively low scoring dogfight.

Lakers playing well, but still too many TOs.

AD active on both ends of the court. Bron taking the ball to the rim. KCP playing with confidence. Kuzma attacking.

Butler continuing doing it all for Miami.

I'd love to see Vogel bring in the MonStar line up at some point to see how Miami responds.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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327. "Damn, Lakers!"
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Please get KCP a Speech Tutor!

  

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328. "pressed"
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329. "cmon."
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332. "No. He is unable to speak fluently."
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It wasn’t pleasant to listen to, and clearly he was nervous. I hate to see that.

When you’re a millionaire, and you play for a billion dollar organization, you should be able to speak coherently.

  

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330. "^^ ableism"
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331. "Let’s. Fucking. Go. "
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Refs aren’t rewarding you.

So many missed shots and TOs.

And a 5 point lead. Let’s. Go.

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334. "Lol at the refs "
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Yes that’s why this is close

  

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337. "Please. It’s been bad all around. "
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338. "They will not be honest. "
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lol.

  

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364. "Honestly?"
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AD isn’t coming to Chicago.
The Bulls some shit.
Lakers are 1 win from a title.
And you mad.

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333. "Lakers settling for too many 3s..."
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..its obviously different when they're knocking them down at a decent clip.

I've never been a fan of a team settling for outside shots when they have this much of a size advantage. At this point, LA's making this more difficult on themselves.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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335. "AD with another near death experience "
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I’ve also never seen a dude get poked in the eye this frequently on a b-ball court

Dude should wear Kareem goggles

  

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340. "I’m trying to be quiet "
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344. "Dude is soft "
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I never really cared enough about him to notice


It’s fine. Some dudes just built diff

  

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336. "damn AD be scaring me."
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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

  

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339. "Lakers nation nervous a fuck right now."
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Lol

  

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341. "rip ad. oh wait what? hes out on the floor the very next possession?"
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i wonder if theres anyone that goes through that emotional rollercoaster every time he gets 'hurt' lol.

  

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342. "Pretty great Laker D tonight "
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Forcing Miami to take some difficult ass shots

  

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343. "God I wish Bam was at 100 "
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345. "How many times is Mike Breen going to confuse Rondo with KCP..."
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I know their both black dudes with braids but one has is wearing 9 and one is wearing 1

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346. "kcp been reliable/steady. cant even knock that young man."
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347. "1 more!"
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357. "this guy."
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362. "Oh, he ain’t one of y’all?"
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Lol

  

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363. "Bron been gutting you and your squads for how long now?"
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I'd be bitter too.

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367. "my man, you were the biggest heat fan a few years ago."
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your fandom is just lame.

  

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375. "you and all stah should hang sometime"
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like minds.

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384. "We are real fans though. "
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348. "Dont let no mf named Duncan guard you!"
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349. "i hate ad."
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351. "Looks real tough when he wants to "
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365. "yeah its so goofy."
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350. "much better 2nd half from AD and bron "
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AD back in the lead for fmvp with that 3 and Block

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358. "Nope! Don’t want to hear it."
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Just like with Rondo.

You said my man was soft, and yadda, yadda, yadda

Flipping and flopping.

  

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361. "Nobody cares what you want"
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Cry some more.

  

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352. "1 more. "
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353. "Lakers attack Robinson or Herro *every possession.*"
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Miami’s versatile against a lot of teams, but they can’t defend against the Laker versatility with both of those guys on the floor. Lakers were settling for Js a lot in the second half, but credit where due, they started legit setting screens to get a switch onto one of those guys *every time*. Not much the Heat can do with that.

Like, getting guys like KCP and Rondo, who know their roles beautifully and can both defend well? That’s so clutch for giving yourself the versatility on both ends that’s required for winning a title in today’s NBA.

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366. "lol that’s NBA basketball "
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390. "Sure, but there are schemes that can protect from that."
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Zones, for one. Drop coverage for another. There are others. Because there are plenty of teams who have guys that can shoot but can’t defend. So you scheme to protect those guys.

Or you scheme based on the opponent. I mean, the Lakers have on the floor a guy who at basically all times is *not* looking to shoot. You can make plans revolving around that.

But Spo is just letting Herro and Robinson do full switches on multiple consecutive possessions down the stretch. I realize he doesn’t think he has a better option, that the Heat stand a better chance with their 3-point shooting on the floor than with them off the floor... I just don’t really understand the defensive decision making. Maybe Bam playing hurt has fucked up some of the stuff they planned on throwing at the Lakers. I don’t know.

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398. "They mostly played zone the first 2 games and got destroyed..."
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>Zones, for one. Drop coverage for another. There are others.
>Because there are plenty of teams who have guys that can shoot
>but can’t defend. So you scheme to protect those guys.
>
>Or you scheme based on the opponent. I mean, the Lakers have
>on the floor a guy who at basically all times is *not* looking
>to shoot. You can make plans revolving around that.

And that's what teams do, but sometimes those non-shooters knock down shots. You assume Bron and AD are going to get theirs and hope those guys miss shots. If they don't you're fucked. its not anything magical they Lakers had played that way the entire season and it usually works. The Lakers "3rd star" is usually somebody random and its hard to gameplan for that. That's why everyone hung their hats on the Clippers because it was believed that they had the wing defenders to keep Bron and AD below their averages and make the Lakers more depended on "the others" but that matchup never happened.

>But Spo is just letting Herro and Robinson do full switches on
>multiple consecutive possessions down the stretch. I realize
>he doesn’t think he has a better option, that the Heat stand
>a better chance with their 3-point shooting on the floor than
>with them off the floor... I just don’t really understand
>the defensive decision making. Maybe Bam playing hurt has
>fucked up some of the stuff they planned on throwing at the
>Lakers. I don’t know.

Its hard to hide 2 defensive liabilities on the floor at the same time for an extended period. Usually if you have 1 player like that you put them on the floor with 4 defenders and you can usually pull it off but with 2 its tough.

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409. "I agree with all that."
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It’s definitely a personnel issue. You can’t play a team as versatile as the Lakers and have two guys who can’t defend on the floor.

I was more just expressing surprise that Spo isn’t trying more things to counter that. Like I said above, he may just be content with the downside of their defense because he thinks their 3-point shooting still gives them a relative points per possession advantage that they couldn’t muster with other players on the floor— that’s the only explanation I have for why he’d just punt on trying to protect his shitty defenders from a scheme perspective, especially late in a close game.

Probably just a losing situation for Miami regardless— especially now that Dragic is out, because while he’s not a *great* defender, he’s easily better than Herro or Robinson and could allow Spo to play only one of those guys at once, making things a little better on that end.

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417. "yeah like I said its professional basketball..."
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Herro is was in high school a couple of years ago. Everybody in the NBA can score but being able to defend takes time. It took Lebron time. Herro can become a solid defender but it will take time. Its more than just on-the-ball, its learning how defend within a team concept, angles, all of that. That's why Herro was perfect in a 6th man role but as a starter he gets exposed. And with him on the floor its harder to hide Duncan so he gets exposed.

You can play zone in the NBA against bad teams but against good teams to have to be able to play man-to-man.

>It’s definitely a personnel issue. You can’t play a team
>as versatile as the Lakers and have two guys who can’t
>defend on the floor.
>
>I was more just expressing surprise that Spo isn’t trying
>more things to counter that. Like I said above, he may just be
>content with the downside of their defense because he thinks
>their 3-point shooting still gives them a relative points per
>possession advantage that they couldn’t muster with other
>players on the floor— that’s the only explanation I have
>for why he’d just punt on trying to protect his shitty
>defenders from a scheme perspective, especially late in a
>close game.
>
>Probably just a losing situation for Miami regardless—
>especially now that Dragic is out, because while he’s not a
>*great* defender, he’s easily better than Herro or Robinson
>and could allow Spo to play only one of those guys at once,
>making things a little better on that end.

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354. "Anthony Davis just shitted on all his haters "
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Including lakers fans in this post talking about him

Dude just shut it down in the last two mints

Hit the big time three and his defense was on another level.

Probably the best two way player in the game

Niggas saying he ain’t top 5

See you in Chicago in a few years AD!!

  

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369. "RE: Anthony Davis just shitted on all his haters "
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>See you in Chicago in a few years AD!!

what happened to "next year"?

That turned into "a few years" real quick.

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371. "An honest question. Do you not believe in criticism?"
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Calling someone out for playing below their level is not “shitting” on them. You called Spo out. Same thing.

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383. "Nah."
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There were guys in here calling him soft and just a Scottie Pippen on steroids.

Saying that he wasn’t top 5.

  

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389. "Name names. "
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439. "Thought so. "
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399. "Nobody hates on his talent "
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We are saying he is soft as fuck is all


You can be really talented but also have a ridiculously low pain tolerance.

  

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356. "102-96, Lakers..."
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..Miami gave everything they had tonight and it still wasn't enough.

LA is still not playing their best basketball. Shots from the perimeter aren't consistent enough for them to settle for so many 3s, but they made up for it on the defensive end.

AD was active all over the floor.

Bron stepped up, taking the ball to the rim and getting to the line.

Vogel's a little too tight with his current rotation.

1 more win.



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359. "Damn, they got 2 full days off...it’s a wrap...Bron might play 48 minu..."
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360. "I like how AD & Bron wait on each other after their postgame interviews...."
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after a win after that game 3 loss Bron was like “fuck all y’all!”

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368. "Spoelstra with another coaching blunder."
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I don’t get it. You were already given a blue print. Bam doesn’t stretch the defense
so it was easy for the lakers to sit in the paint and block shots.

He totally went away from Olynk, and was totally undersized down the stretch. I can’t recall Bam getting any rebound in the last few minutes.

Your offense was totally stuck down the stretch, and players couldn’t get easy buckets in the paint. Everything was rushed and contested.

You can’t run screens or pick and rolls with Bam...you can do that all day with Kelly.

Well that’s the series right there. And you leave Robinson and. Tyler on the floor together?

It should have been jimmy at the point, Tyler, crowder, kelly and Bam at the 5...since he wanted to play Bam.

  

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373. "What the hell is going on in OKS nowadays? Lol"
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>You can’t run screens or pick and rolls with Bam...you can
>do that all day with Kelly.

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379. "You can’t run pick and pop with Bam "
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Or screen and pops.

What I meant by that was on a screen or a pick...kelly will stay outside and hit a three or an outside shot while the defense goes under.

Bam can roll to the basket, yeah.....

But he isn’t a shooter ...that is what I meant


Kelly avg 20 points and 7 boards past two games ...while avg 31 mins

Spo only played him for 12 mins ...senseless ....He got a win with ke

  

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387. "BAM has been either the screener or the one..."
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getting screened for all season.

Stop.

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394. "Bam can’t screen or fake screen"
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And then go behind the arc and hit a three!

Bam cannot do that like Olynk. The previous game Davis had to follow that around , and it gave him fits.

Bam will pick or screen and roll to the basket or try to hit a midrange.

Go to the 1 minute mark.

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395. "In that video, Olynyk hits a 3 off screen action *once.* "
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And even then, it's a blown switch, and Davis isn't guarding him. And Olynyk is only being guarded by Davis on one of those scoring actions. So... I wouldn't really describe that as a game changing option. Or that it "gave Davis fits."

Anthony Davis is one of the 2-3 best defenders in the NBA-- if him getting beat by Olynyk on a quick roll one time makes you think "by God, that's the KEY TO THIS WHOLE SERIES!"... then I'm not sure I agree with you 100% on your police work there, Lou.

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370. "once again - don't sleep on KCP"
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He's played huge all playoffs - and has emerged as the most consistent third scorer on this team. Give him his due.

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374. "quick on his feet, can split defenders if needed."
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I'm a fan of Kentavious Caldwell-PIPE

  

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377. "grown up a bunch. salute to that brother."
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380. "Playing like Ron Harper lite. "
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Love it

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386. "That was disrespectful to Harper..."
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..KCP might be young & athletic, but he's streaky and unpredictable at best.

Harper was a player with the kind of consistency @ both ends of the floor that you could depend on every night (before the injuries). Even in his final 2 seasons, he was known as a fierce defender.

Put more respect(k) on his name.


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393. "I should clarify. 2000 Harper. And I *did* say “lite”. "
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381. "He was trash last game but a blind squirrel finds a nut every now and..."
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then he’s not there for his offense anytime we get something from him on that side of the ball it’s a bonus

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372. "Rondo is about the only player I've ever seen"
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where people get shook over his passing more than anything else. He's too good, man.

That one layup he basically walked in is him using the Jedi Mind Trick.

One more, Lakers

  

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376. "Illest move from Bron tonight was that Kobe fadeaway."
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he hit a lot of those in 2018 but in that particular situation, shot clock almost gone and Jimmy in his face .... that was about as big as the AD 3.

  

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378. "miami's got all the heart and grit, lakers got all the talent."
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this series is most likely 2-2 with a healthy bam and dragic.

props to the lakers though. they're earning this for sure.

  

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382. "I actually disagree. "
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I personally think Bam is a negative for this series, especially in the closing minutes.

It’s like Frank Longo stated. Lakers attacked Miami biggest weaknesses, which is Robinson/Tyler on defense, and since Bam is on the floor, Davis can be all over the paint area, because Bam isn’t a shooter.

Davis didn’t have the same defensive activity in the past two games, because he had to follow Kelly around the Arc.


I might as well take my L now, and say congrats on the bubble chip.

  

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388. "Agreed. Dragic was playing at such a high level in the last series."
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And BAM is not what he was last series either.

Lakers are earning it though.

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385. "6 years ago Vex was rooting for the Miami Heat. "
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He was all about the Heatles.
Now the Heat are in the championship, and he is rooting for the Lakers.

I know I talk mad shit when it comes to basketball ..mad shit.

But, dude, how is this acceptable?

How sway?

  

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391. "Nobody gives a damn but you..."
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..We all know Vex is a Bron stan. He's not a fan of any team (including the Lakers).

The difference is that Vex knows how to take an L and let it go.

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392. "Yup. Vex is an unabashed Bron fan. "
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Some of us took umbrage back in the day. But let’s be honest - he’s consistent about it, and haven’t we learned some teams are just incompetent? It’s more fun to put loyalty into a team and watch them stumble and pick themselves up, but we’ve seen far too many teams just be awful and not worth rooting for. It’s not what I would do, but I’m done knocking it.

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410. "Need a social distanced hug, thug? "
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Sad, brad?


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412. "I've never been a fan of the Cavs/Heat/Lakers per se"
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Have always been a huge fan of LeBron James (both on & off the court) - and I've remained consistent through all of his moves. Loved watching his Herculean efforts in his early Cleveland years - dragging arguably the worst team in NBA history to ever appear in an NBA Finals ('07 Cleveland), Loved those Kyrie/Bron Cleveland squads ('16 was peak-experience as a LeBron fan) - loved the Miami era (and doubled-down on being a Bron fan in 2010 when the world was jilted over his split with Dan Gilbert) - and I'm loving his Laker days now - poised to do something that *no other* superstar has ever done: win a 'chip w/ 3 diff. organizations while playing at an MVP level.

But do continue to spout off like a paleo-conservative with the simp'ing and "but but what about our tradition!"

Sports fans come in all diff. stripes - you're just a sore loser.


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422. "While I disagree with this being a positive, I understand your position"
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- and I'm loving his Laker days now - poised
>to do something that *no other* superstar has ever done: win a
>'chip w/ 3 diff. organizations while playing at an MVP level.

Bouncing around organizations with the sole purpose of teaming up with top-5/10 talent isn't exactly a feather in his cap. He ushered in a superfriends era of least resistance. I'm not mad at this anymore because it is what it is. But in my opinion this is probably the one negative on his all-timer resume. A negative that will most likely be forgotten over time so I've learned to accept it.

I do think your fandom is weird but I get it. All good.


  

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430. "Word"
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>- and I'm loving his Laker days now - poised
>>to do something that *no other* superstar has ever done: win
>a
>>'chip w/ 3 diff. organizations while playing at an MVP
>level.
>
>Bouncing around organizations with the sole purpose of teaming
>up with top-5/10 talent isn't exactly a feather in his cap. He
>ushered in a superfriends era of least resistance. I'm not mad
>at this anymore because it is what it is. But in my opinion
>this is probably the one negative on his all-timer resume. A
>negative that will most likely be forgotten over time so I've
>learned to accept it.
>
>I do think your fandom is weird but I get it. All good.
>
>
>

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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447. "It's never as simple as that though, is it?"
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>Bouncing around organizations with the sole purpose of teaming
>up with top-5/10 talent isn't exactly a feather in his cap. He
>ushered in a superfriends era of least resistance. I'm not mad
>at this anymore because it is what it is. But in my opinion
>this is probably the one negative on his all-timer resume. A
>negative that will most likely be forgotten over time so I've
>learned to accept it.

It was actually the Celtics who first decided to form a super-team - and it took a super-team (KG, Pierce, Allen, Rondo) just to beat LeBron and his weak supporting cast in Cleveland. Why was Garnett not criticized for leaving Minnesota for Boston in the same way?

Also - all of the game's greats didn't have to be mobile like LeBron, because most of them were born into great organizations and had the privilege of staying put (Bird/Magic/Jordan/Kobe/Russell etc.) They were born into elite supportive casts and didn't have to change/adapt.

LeBron paved the way for an entirely new paradigm of labor rights in the NBA where players have more control over their respective destinies and aren't beholden to owners (some of whom are bad actors). As a person who had to move a lot growing up, I was never rooted in just one city/region - so I can respect the grit and self-determination it takes to author your own destiny and be mobile/nomadic in search of what makes you happy.

And I also don't think it's the easier route to take. It's much more comfortable to just stay put and let an organization do all the heavy lifting of surrounding you with stars and a great cast. In every single situation LeBron entered (Cleveland as a rookie, Miami, second stint in Cleveland, and now L.A.) - LeBron turned lottery/marginal teams into champions. No other player has done that, ever. So it's a feather in his crown, for sure.


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448. "Should players leave their careers in the hands of poor management?"
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What, exactly, is the virtue of sticking it out with poor management, or management that can't surround you with sufficient talent?

KG wasted the bulk of his career in Minny.

He was fortunate that he got traded to a team that was able to field quality players around him.

There is the anomaly here of KD, having left a team with another superstar to join an already dominant team with three all stars, and that doesn't really factor here IMO.

But Brawn, Bosh and Wade had a rare opportunity of timing to be able to link up. Why not take that opportunity?

Is it better to just hope that team management will get him a Pippen and Rodman? To add a Parish and McHale, a Kareem and Worthy?

I don't see super teams get knocked when management builds it.
For some odd reason , they only get knocked when the players excercise their power and autonomy.

That just doesnt make a bit of sense to me.

  

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400. "Lakers fans. What do y’all really think about Kuzma?"
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No dog in this fight but I think he’s some shit that thinks he’s better than what he is.

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401. "I don't think he's shit, I don't think he's the star that he and we..."
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thought he could be, I think he's somewhere in between. I'm not sure if he can realize his full potential as a Laker playing with Bron and AD.


>No dog in this fight but I think he’s some shit that thinks
>he’s better than what he is.

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402. "he aight just mentally immature"
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i'd like to see him get more minutes as theres no way he can do worse than Danny Green out there. but clearly Bron and Vogel dont trust him yet.
he played great D last night and for large stretches of the season so he's clearly improving. its just a tough role for him to fit into.

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403. "Free the kid "
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405. "He’s not the third guy. "
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But he’s been nice in the playoffs sans the Nuggets series. For every boneheaded Tragic Bronson alert...he’s played excellent defense 5 times. So, he’s been nice to have...but we shouldn’t pay him what he’s probably looking for.

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406. "the ideal "third guy" for Lebron and AD would be a knock down shooter..."
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and Kuz is not that and its not clear if he ever will be comfortable in a role like that.

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416. "I agree. It's gotta be a 39+% 3PT guy."
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When you have Bron and AD on the floor, your third guy doesn't need to be some crazy versatile offensive weapon, and he doesn't even need to be a great individual defender-- he just has to spread the floor on offense, always be in the right position at the right time in the half court, knock down 3s at a high rate, and play okay-to-decent team defense. Kuz's problem is that he isn't a good shooter or a good individual defender, so what is he bringing to the table other than bench scoring?

Obviously there's a little Duke homerism here, but someone like the JJ Redick of 2-3 years ago would've been perfectly suited for this role. A vet who knows the game, doesn't make mistakes, and makes tons of 3s. Shit, even Redick today would score 16+ PPG in this system. (Now I'm really wishing the Pels could trade JJ to the Lakers. Sigh. Dare to dream.)

Best case scenario for LA would've been someone like Buddy Hield, or even someone like Bojan Bogdanovic... but honestly, even someone as simple as Joe Harris (who I think is a free agent this year?) could potentially do the trick. Again, I don't think the Lakers need much for their third option outside of terrific 3PT shooting and a high overall basketball IQ. Any free agents they pursue should fit that bill.

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418. "Buddy Hield is fool’s gold. "
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He has a PER of 16, and is trending downward.

He shot 42 percent from the field last year, and after shooting 43 percent from 3 a few years ago, he shot 39 percent last year. All of his numbers are going backwards after getting that big time extension.

If he ain’t jacking up threes, he doesn’t do anything else. And that 4 year 86 million dollar contract is pure baggage.

Plus he disappears too much. He is the shooting version of Andrew Wiggins.

  

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427. ""The shooting version of Andrew Wiggins" is a good player tho!"
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Like, if you took Andrew Wiggins, gave him better shooting and slightly better defense (Hield isn't a good defender but he's better than Wiggins), that's a good player. The sort of player that's suited to be the third option on a good team.

Problem with Hield right now is that he's gotta be the second option because Bagley stays hurt and Barnes continues to be who he is. If Hield went to a team with stars, he'd see a jump in efficiency on offense similar to the one KCP saw when he left Detroit for LA.

And yes, his contract's a problem, but he's Top 10 in the NBA in active 3 point percentage while being Top 5 in the NBA in active 3 point attempts. A guy like that today was always gonna get a massive check.

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419. "what's crazy is that's what Danny Green was supposed to be but he has..."
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been wildly inconsistent and like I've said before you could kind of see it coming before last year in the Finals Toronto basically phased him out for Fred Van Vleet

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428. "yeah, that's the problem with going for the vet..."
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... they're always knocking on the door of becoming "the guy who can't really do it like that anymore." Green's shooting was already going down his last couple years in San Antonio-- it actually bumped *up* in that Toronto system-- but yeah, he's been like a 35% 3PT shooter his last few years on average, and that's just not gonna cut it.

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435. "Yeah that’s what’s crazy shooters don’t usually just fall off..."
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like that at 33.

Conventional wisdom would be the amount of wide open 3’s he gets playing with Bron and AD he would be shooting a career high this year but that hasn’t be the case

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441. "I feel like he is the type of dude that gets a great deal from SAC"
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or MIN or a franchise like that. Not for the team, but for Kuz.

  

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407. "if he's going to blossom, it won't be here."
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Best thing for him and us is to see what we could get back for him.


Last year is such a distant memory at this point.

But this petition to make re he doesnt get a ring is some fuck shit

  

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408. "man thats just twitter trolling."
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lakers twitter done roasted the life out of everybody on the team at some point this season besides Bron AD and Caruso. everybody know we love Kuzma, its just his turn (and Danny's) to get the jokes.

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411. "You mofos are despicable."
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And don’t even deserve the players that you have.

You wrote off KCP. You wrote off Rondo. You degrade AD when the lakers lose.

Kuzma plays well based on minutes given. Scored 9 points yesterday on 50 percent shooting. And had 19 points in the previous game on 50 percent shooting.

You got three players( lebron, ad, Rondo) who dominate the ball, so he can only work with the opportunities that are given.

  

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414. "Lmao"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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413. "I think he always wanted to get shipped out to N.O. w/ the kids"
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He seemed to not really be too keen to shoulder the responsibility of being the third option on a championship contender - probably wanted to goof off for a few more years of no-expectation basketball on a growing/young team.

All that being said - he's made real contributions to the team during the playoffs, even if he's fallen short of expectations.

If the decision is to sign Kuz to a big multi-year deal or go hunting for a big free agent, I think the Lakers will do the latter.

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421. "from following him on IG, he absolutely thought it was a Big 3."
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im sure reality slapped him in the face quick once the season started but beforehand that was absolutely the expectation from him, and a lot of us.

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429. "It's because all those people cysed him as being better than Ingram."
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Blew his head up into thinking he's something other than what he always was meant to be: a scoring-off-the-bench guy on a good team or a starter on a shitty team.

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432. "well - to be fair - he had a better year than Ingram last year in L.A."
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and he was just as coveted (if not more) than Ingram during the AD sweepstakes (particularly with the questions about Ingram's health).

Ingram took a monstrous step forward this year (everyone thought he was going to do that last year) - but it's not as if it was clear-cut 1-2 years ago as to who was going to turn out to be the better prospect.


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437. "Hella disagree "
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It really was obvious to me. If the Lakers actually could’ve traded Kuz instead of BI and opted not to, lmao.

>Ingram took a monstrous step forward this year (everyone
>thought he was going to do that last year) - but it's not as
>if it was clear-cut 1-2 years ago as to who was going to turn
>out to be the better prospect.
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438. "Agreed. "
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Obviously BI was the better talent. He also made more, but if we ACTUALLY traded him because of salaries - I’d be calling for Robs head. But I don’t believe that for a second. Kuzma was never the better player ever.

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445. "Oh I definitely agree that Ingram is the better player"
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I'm not arguing that. But look at their respective stats from the 2018-2019 season -- they are essentially identical except that the advanced stats showed how Kuzma paired much more efficiently with LeBron than Ingram - which makes sense because Kuzma plays better off the ball and arguably is a better defender. Ingram needs to be ball dominant to maximize his effectiveness - which is why he took such a huge step forward this year in N.O.




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453. "sure, but I don't think we should confuse"
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BI being better on-ball with him being worse off-ball. he is still better off-ball than Kuzma. since Kuzma came into the league he has never shot better from 3 than BI. and Kuzma does make some nice cuts but I still think BI with his length is a better target.

  

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415. "Managing expectations..."
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..Kuzma is a solid player that can clearly get his own shot, but sometimes gets lost on the floor. While he can work to improve his perimeter shooting, I think he just needs a little more time to adjust to his role.

LA will likely try to retain him, but at what cost?

I'd love to see him continue with the Lakers, but that contract will be challenging.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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423. "also a fair question to ask is... does Bron's leadership style serve eve..."
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especially kids in Kuzma's generation


I'm purely speculating here but there are times when I see Bron give Kuzma a look of disappointment or frustration that makes me wonder this.


Not everyone responds the same way to that style of leadership.

  

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424. "he's just not built for it, everybody isn't"
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426. "I’m certainly not "
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My boss looks at me like Bron does to teammates


I’m going to HR. Or maybe just a passive aggressive slack

  

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425. "kuzma is a. from Flint"
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and b. just a weird dude

a and b are kinda the same thing.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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442. "Ha indeed "
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I’m sure he can handle it.

  

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452. "Has shown significant maturity and growth this season"
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Another year, another new role he had to acclimate to - compounded by being in and out of the lineup due to injuries (stress reaction, ankle sprain that he tried to play through).

What I really liked about him is that in January, you could see a shift in his mentality where he didn't allow his offense to dictate his effort on the boards or defensively. That mentality has continued into the bubble, he's cleaned up his defensive footwork, and he's contributing in numerous ways.

Game 4 is case in point - he had a bad turnovers that he responded to with a no hesitation corner 3 and he defended his ass off in the 2nd half. It's not easy being a young player on a team with championship aspirations but he's growing into it.

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420. "AD asked to guard Jimmy Butler:"
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https://sports.yahoo.com/anthony-davis-wanted-the-task-of-guarding-jimmy-butler-and-it-paid-off-in-game-4-155631906.html

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431. "Mamba Jerseys on Friday. Bron ready to GO"
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https://twitter.com/ByTimReynolds/status/1313962451235418112?s=20

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433. "Couldn't be a more epic grand finale if they close it out on Friday"
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1.) They will have gentleman swept the entire *league* - 4-1, 4-1, 4-1, 4-1. Kobe passed away at age 41. Magical math to honor Mamba's legacy, while playing in Mamba jerseys.

2.) Bron will earn his 4th title in Orlando, just as Kobe Bryant earned his 4th title in Orlando. That year (2009) - The Lakers defeated the Rockets in the Western Conference semis; and then went on to beat the Nuggets in the WCF. Alike, the Lakers (this year) just beat the Rockets in the semis; Nuggets in WCF.

3.) Lakers will notch their 17th title in LeBron's 17th year.

Looks to be written in the cosmos at this point.


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434. "I'm not superstitious."
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But I am a little stitious (c) Michael Scott

I don't love this. Sure, it'll be amazing if they win, but they just provided bulletin board material. I don't care for it.

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436. "nah man I’m confident. We’re about to see a special finale"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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444. "I agree..."
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>I don't love this. Sure, it'll be amazing if they win, but
>they just provided bulletin board material. I don't care for
>it.

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443. "we're going to need a new thread for Friday y'all already got this shit...."
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up to almost 500 replies

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446. "Its 2020, what are ya'll posting from that can't handle 500 replies"
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n/m

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449. "its just annoying after a while with most people rambling on about..."
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random shit. A fresh post will be needed.

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454. "Admittedly, I was hoping the finals wouldn't need more than one..."
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..but didn't expect this to balloon to 400+ before game 5.

Not that its a problem, but it would've been cool to have the entire dialogue in one place to archive.

I've already received more than one inbox about it, so I'll g'head and start the next thread.



*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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450. "Also how was Nunn allowed to take 11 shots?"
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He was 2 for 11. Those were valuable possessions lost. Spo should have gotten on him.
That can’t happen again.

Let Jimmy run the point. Bring Robinson off the bench.
And play Kelly more.

Butler- Hierro - Crowder - Bam - Olynk

There needs to be space and driving lanes, and Davis need to be pulled out of the paint. Make him work like you did in Game 3. David was chasing Kelly around...let’s get back to that.

  

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