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HecticHavoc
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"The Outsider (HBO)"


  

          

HOW IS NO ONE WATCHING THIS?!?!

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Ben Mendelthin could be why. I'm watching because I like the book.
Feb 05th 2020
1
Bruh
Feb 05th 2020
3
      I was pissed when he was announced for Ralph
Feb 05th 2020
7
           RE: I was pissed when he was announced for Ralph
Feb 06th 2020
8
                I like Erivo, as a fan of four books worth of Holly Gibney
Feb 06th 2020
9
The first two episodes were incredible
Feb 05th 2020
2
im waiting til the season is over. heard nothing but good things tho.
Feb 05th 2020
4
RE: The Outsider (HBO)
Feb 05th 2020
5
it's great. was just about to make a thread.
Feb 05th 2020
6
Best murder/crime/police show on HBO since the first season
Feb 06th 2020
10
yep. complete reminder of ep 1 of True Detective
Feb 06th 2020
11
      I think he was an accomplice in that he knew what was happening
Feb 06th 2020
13
      RE: yep. complete reminder of ep 1 of True Detective
Feb 10th 2020
14
creepy
Feb 06th 2020
12
Ep 6 - best of the series so far?
Feb 10th 2020
15
I thought it was the weakest or 2nd weakest after the previous week's
Feb 10th 2020
16
      yeah. first 2 episodes were complete glory
Feb 13th 2020
17
           You don’t remember the colored scotch tape iPhone filter scene?
Feb 13th 2020
18
                WHOOPS
Feb 13th 2020
19
talk about a train wreck, right?
Feb 17th 2020
20
say what?
Feb 17th 2020
21
I wouldnt be that hard on it but....
Feb 18th 2020
22
Train wreck is a bit harsh
Feb 18th 2020
23
alright alright. it went from supreme excellence to good
Feb 18th 2020
24
10 episodes probably hasn't helped...
Feb 18th 2020
25
I thought train wreck was harsh initially
Mar 02nd 2020
35
El Cuco is a silly villain.
Feb 25th 2020
26
LOL my and my wife's thoughts exactly.
Feb 25th 2020
27
      yeah I was hoping the show would elevate that.
Feb 25th 2020
28
           I was gonna say...
Feb 25th 2020
29
           Yea I've never read any King for this reason.
Feb 25th 2020
30
so he's a socially awkward Velociraptor?
Feb 28th 2020
31
Dying @ the last sentence.
Feb 28th 2020
32
Last weekend's episode
Feb 28th 2020
33
I wasn't as hard on last week's episode as y'all but this week?!
Mar 02nd 2020
34
I didnt READ this post, just wanted to relay I laughed at "this week?!?!...
Mar 02nd 2020
36
bruh
Mar 02nd 2020
37
definitely.
Mar 03rd 2020
38
Thank god that's over.
Mar 08th 2020
39
“Damn you to hell”
Mar 09th 2020
40
      Bruh, he gets yelled at by one black woman and just gives up?
Mar 09th 2020
41
      for a show that mastered tension so immediately, it's wild
Mar 09th 2020
42
           You put it perfectly
Mar 09th 2020
43
      skimmed this post before I watched the last 2 episdoes
Mar 10th 2020
45
Can’t say they were at the goal line
Mar 09th 2020
44
i think the finale saved the series
Mar 14th 2020
46

Cold Truth
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1. "Ben Mendelthin could be why. I'm watching because I like the book."
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He's a good actor... but he's got this combination of a lisp and a back-of-the-throat vocal tone that's absolutely grating.


Also, this is a slow burn, almost painfully at times.

I'd classify it as a solid TV mystery, but not something that's so good I'm shocked that everyone else isn't in it.

That said, I'm all in, warts and all. My biggest concern was how they'd handle Holly, and they've done a solid job of that so I'm good.

  

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navajo joe
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3. "Bruh"
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I'm crying at Mendelthin

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Cold Truth
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7. "I was pissed when he was announced for Ralph "
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I'm a big fan of his books, but the adaptations are usually somewhere between shit, ass, and mediocre to me. There are exceptions, like Carrie, and Doctor Sleep was damn good overall.

The Outsider novel is a pretty engaging mystery, likewise until we get to the monster reveal.

What's wild is that my original post had your exact words on the subject, in that it does lose some luster once that part of the mystery is revealed.

So far this is the best, most overall faithful adaptation of a King book in ages. Everyone is putting in work, particularly Mendelthin, Cynthia Erivo, and Julianne Nicholson.

Particularly compared to 11 22 63, which was a poorly adapted dumpster fire IMO.

  

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8. "RE: I was pissed when he was announced for Ralph "
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I haven't read the book and this has me tempted although we'll see how things go as far as the ending

I originally thought, coming in cold, it was going to be something more parallel universe-y or something else so when it was basically 'the boogie man' I was just a little let down.

I will say that for me Erivo is the weak link in the cast just because it feels like ACTING to me where Mendelson is so understated. It's really hard to pull off that kind of character and make them seem real and it's not for lack of trying on Erivo's part but she's unfortunately the weakest link for me (well her and Asshole Cop).

I'm a little cautious as things begin make themselves clear if they'll be able to sustain the quality and palpable dread of the initial episodes but even if not at least we'll have those. They were basically the best episodes of True Detective we've gotten since that show's first season.

>I'm a big fan of his books, but the adaptations are usually
>somewhere between shit, ass, and mediocre to me. There are
>exceptions, like Carrie, and Doctor Sleep was damn good
>overall.
>
>The Outsider novel is a pretty engaging mystery, likewise
>until we get to the monster reveal.
>
>What's wild is that my original post had your exact words on
>the subject, in that it does lose some luster once that part
>of the mystery is revealed.
>
>So far this is the best, most overall faithful adaptation of a
>King book in ages. Everyone is putting in work, particularly
>Mendelthin, Cynthia Erivo, and Julianne Nicholson.
>
>Particularly compared to 11 22 63, which was a poorly adapted
>dumpster fire IMO.

"We supposed be leaders, now why you wanna follow each other?"
Jada

"How you not a sell-out if a sell-out spits a rhyme and you enjoy it?"
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9. "I like Erivo, as a fan of four books worth of Holly Gibney"
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IMO Erivo's actually playing Holly in a muted way. From a real-world standpoint, she's a borderline superhero in the Hodges trilogy (Mr Mercedes). So from my standpoint, she's actually showing significant restraint, rather than going all Oscar(Emmy?) Bait with Holly's "spectrum" powers, so to speak.

But I could also be biased, being so happy for a solid translation that I'm accepting a mediocre performance.

  

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navajo joe
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2. "The first two episodes were incredible"
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Overall it's been really really good

It lost some of its luster as the PuttyFace Killah comes further into focus for me but
there's some brilliant work on display here especially in terms of Mendelson's performance, the score which is legit unnerving, and the sound design.

Last week's episode was probably the weakest for me.

"We supposed be leaders, now why you wanna follow each other?"
Jada

"How you not a sell-out if a sell-out spits a rhyme and you enjoy it?"
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4. "im waiting til the season is over. heard nothing but good things tho."
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5. "RE: The Outsider (HBO)"
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The El Cuco/Grief Eater explanation brought it home for me because these families were completely falling apart for seemingly no reason.

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6. "it's great. was just about to make a thread."
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10. "Best murder/crime/police show on HBO since the first season "
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of True Detective.

It is very tense and a lot of that has to do with the music and sound design.

I never read the book it is based on so I’m interested to hear from those who have what was changed for better or worse in this adaptation.

Question, has the main police officer dreaming when he saw his son and if so has this happened before because he didn’t seem to react shocked to see him.

  

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11. "yep. complete reminder of ep 1 of True Detective"
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>of True Detective.
>
>It is very tense and a lot of that has to do with the music
>and sound design.
>
>I never read the book it is based on so I’m interested to
>hear from those who have what was changed for better or worse
>in this adaptation.
>
>Question, has the main police officer dreaming when he saw his
>son and if so has this happened before because he didn’t
>seem to react shocked to see him.

havent read the novel either - im a bit worried about the reveal (ive never read a King novel but ive heard his stories end badly) - i have faith Bateman wont fuck this up

i think he was dreaming, or just lucidly imagined him, similar to when he looked at the kid he shot and saw his son.

man... the scenes when the people affected die and it pans to him (VERY EERILY) watching and walking away. whew.

i may re-watch the last two episodes, but im a bit confused on the dude who had the unloaded gun. they claim he's an 'accomplice', so is he similar to the other murder detective that threw the lamps in the forest? (LOL) - we better get clarification of what he was doing that for.

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13. "I think he was an accomplice in that he knew what was happening"
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And what Play-Doh face was planning to do and that Play-Doh face killed those girls but he didn’t try to stop him, hooked him up with lamps, and he didn’t come forward to tell the police what he knew.

  

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14. "RE: yep. complete reminder of ep 1 of True Detective"
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>havent read the novel either - im a bit worried about the
>reveal (ive never read a King novel but ive heard his stories
>end badly) - i have faith Bateman wont fuck this up


Episode 6 that aired tonight really flirted with disaster during the fight sequence. It felt like an entirely different show for five minutes.

Shame because everything else was probably the best episode of the season yet in terms of tension. The way they balanced the tone of Holly describing El Cuco to the squad and how who was reacting to what was fascinating. And how much they let that whole thing breath and really sink in for every character.


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12. "creepy"
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im legit scared to watch these episodes, seems like anything can happen

  

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15. "Ep 6 - best of the series so far?"
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I think so

  

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16. "I thought it was the weakest or 2nd weakest after the previous week's"
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It was fine (outside of the abysmal sequence w/ Asshole Cop) but the first two episodes of this show were so good it's insane.

I have a feeling this series unravels the more the mystery about Yung Coco is made clear

The shit with the iphone was eye-rolling writing. The old woman ass-beating was just straight out of a significantly worse show.

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17. "yeah. first 2 episodes were complete glory"
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>It was fine (outside of the abysmal sequence w/ Asshole Cop)
>but the first two episodes of this show were so good it's
>insane.
>
>I have a feeling this series unravels the more the mystery
>about Yung Coco is made clear
>
>The shit with the iphone was eye-rolling writing. The old
>woman ass-beating was just straight out of a significantly
>worse show.
>
>

the mom in the apartment scene was straight out of It2 (an absolute disgrace to humanity and i liked part 1) - but I did enjoy the episode quite a bit up until then - it went by much faster to me than any other episode

im sitting here upset i dont remember the iphone scene

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18. "You don’t remember the colored scotch tape iPhone filter scene?"
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19. "WHOOPS"
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yeah i didnt hate that. i was able to believe the whole he sheds his skin "like a snake" thing. im sure when I watch again it'll look worse but my mind is dominated by that apartment scene getting ragdolled by air.

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20. "talk about a train wreck, right?"
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but i suppose this is vintage HBO, start off incredible and fall on your face as it goes. didnt expect it to be this quick tho.

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21. "say what?"
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I think the show's still great at building tension and I'm invested in all of these characters for unique reasons at this point.

The only complaint I can think of for that episode was that the plot is basically spinning its wheels at this point, but the shots of Jack/the bug on its back make it pretty clear that was the episode's major theme.

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22. "I wouldnt be that hard on it but...."
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this was def the weakest ep so far.

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23. "Train wreck is a bit harsh"
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bit it does appear the writing and some of the decisions in the plot points are starting to suffer because of the subpar writing. It's a shame because all the actors/actresses are knocking the material out of the park. I can't think of a legimate weak link in terms of the performances, although I do think the divorced cop with the e.Coli redneck is a bit too one note, but that's because of the writing and not his performance.

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24. "alright alright. it went from supreme excellence to good"
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just completely lost the mystique for me but i am a loyal fan

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25. "10 episodes probably hasn't helped..."
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8 max

  

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35. "I thought train wreck was harsh initially"
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but after last night...

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26. "El Cuco is a silly villain."
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Some ephemeral, tear-drinking demon that devours families whole and leaves a field of decay in its wake? Cool, ripe for metaphor and exploration and fear.

Some bumbling guy that cannibalizes random strangers, howls like a wolf and attempts to take a kid from a heavily populated area?

For all the talk about how not-a-human Holly and Ralph had these past two episodes, they sure did a lot to undermine that by finally giving it a physical form and having it make very human mistakes and be afraid of very human problems.

At this point I can't back out, but this monster is officially a plot device that doubles a bit as a SVU monster of the week and I'm not sure Price & Co. can pull me back from that. I still love everything else, but I'm pretty comfortable throwing El Cuco in the scrapheap of also-ran fantasy villains/threats.


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27. "LOL my and my wife's thoughts exactly."
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Too late to back out, but it's going exactly where we feared it would. We hadn't read the book but just heard the rumblings of the direction of the thing.


>Some ephemeral, tear-drinking demon that devours families
>whole and leaves a field of decay in its wake? Cool, ripe for
>metaphor and exploration and fear.
>
>Some bumbling guy that cannibalizes random strangers, howls
>like a wolf and attempts to take a kid from a heavily
>populated area?
>
>For all the talk about how not-a-human Holly and Ralph had
>these past two episodes, they sure did a lot to undermine that
>by finally giving it a physical form and having it make very
>human mistakes and be afraid of very human problems.
>
>At this point I can't back out, but this monster is officially
>a plot device that doubles a bit as a SVU monster of the week
>and I'm not sure Price & Co. can pull me back from that. I
>still love everything else, but I'm pretty comfortable
>throwing El Cuco in the scrapheap of also-ran fantasy
>villains/threats.

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28. "yeah I was hoping the show would elevate that."
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But it didn't.

King lays out an engrossing mystery, until the monster reveal.

It sputters after that.

The inability to stick the landing is an unfortunate King hallmark.

He does it on 11 22 63 though. He nails that one, and that's his truest masterpiece imo.

He also hits a strong landing in Doctor Sleep. The book, not the movie.

  

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29. "I was gonna say..."
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>The inability to stick the landing is an unfortunate King
>hallmark.

once I found out this was based on a King book, I knew it was headed for an unsatisfying ending. that's his trademark.

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30. "Yea I've never read any King for this reason."
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I'm not one for sci-fi or fantasy-style books or movies so his work never really interested me. Same reason I've never seen Harry Potter nor like Lord of the Rings, etc.

But I loved the cast and had heard some good things so my wife and I gave it a chance. It's really well done otherwise for sure. But this past episode confirmed what we knew was inevitable, unfortunately.

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31. "so he's a socially awkward Velociraptor?"
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give me a fuckin BREAK at that carnival scene. that kid was like at least 10 or 11. any of you willingly allow some masked dude hold onto your neck into a cave at that age? i remember how i was at 11. not happening. and of course he escapes a group of grown, angry men, trying to abduct a boy. if ever there was a good usage 'GTFOWTBS', this right here is it.

enjoying the acting immensely, as usual. cant really get over the monster doing velociraptor yelling tho, dont think i ever will.

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32. "Dying @ the last sentence."
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>give me a fuckin BREAK at that carnival scene. that kid was
>like at least 10 or 11. any of you willingly allow some masked
>dude hold onto your neck into a cave at that age? i remember
>how i was at 11. not happening. and of course he escapes a
>group of grown, angry men, trying to abduct a boy. if ever
>there was a good usage 'GTFOWTBS', this right here is it.
>
>enjoying the acting immensely, as usual. cant really get over
>the monster doing velociraptor yelling tho, dont think i ever
>will.

I'm picturing you sitting in a nursing home at 80yrs old still cursing out this episode lol.

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33. "Last weekend's episode "
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was the first irredeemable episode IMO. Nothing to truly enjoy about what I saw. None of the anecdotes from that characters connected with me and the appearance of El Cuco was a solid dud. The show appears to get worse and worse and things wind down.


I hope this is the last season for this show as I don't see this improving even if an anthology type is arranged going forward.

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navajo joe
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34. "I wasn't as hard on last week's episode as y'all but this week?!"
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That was hands down the worst episode of the season. From a writing/directing standpoint it was atrocious. There were a number of scenes that were utterly superfluous:

-The drive to the chicken shack w/ the stop on the road
-The chicken shack scene
-The wife in the driveway (which was so clumsily staged/filmed)
-The left-behind wives
-The endless scenes of those little motherfuckers and their dad lost in the cave
-Holly teacher bf Mr. Sentient Dollop of Mayonnaise about the Spanish Civil War
-Anything with the brother being the absolute worst. Over and over again
-The weird cutaway to the brother loading the gun in the back seat while the lawyer yells at him to stop. Seriously, I thought 'Is he gonna shoot Marvin in the face?!'

So this has turned into "Not IT" but fails to do all of the things that IT does to set up the characters. They basically made a group of Losers out of secondary/tertiary characters and it has halted any momentum the series had. As a result, they're forced to use cheap tricks to try inject some sense of tension like the prolonged flashback, Mendelson's wife almost hitting a jogger.

It was, I believe, the shortest episode of the season but seemed to be the longest. Oh btw, if you use a significant chunk of your episode showing kids in peril only to reveal about midway through that it's a flashback you undercut any tension you've tried to establish. And it all feels like a giant waste of time.

Mendelson's character has been robbed of any agency and Holly is there just to explain away things about "Not Pennywise" that she can't possibly know even if she's Sistapedia. The asshole brother is has all the answers they need when he is not being an asshole or working out in his defunct yard gym.

Was this the penultimate episode of the show? I have no idea anymore because until the last few minutes/cliffhanger it felt like a midseason episode in terms of pacing, structure, and endless revelations of new information.

I'd honestly be happy if the show ended w/ the gunshots over a black screen. At least that'd be interesting.

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36. "I didnt READ this post, just wanted to relay I laughed at "this week?!?!..."
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LOOKS LIKE MY TRAINWRECK POST WAS EXTREMELY VALID AND PROVIDED EXCELLENT FORESHADOWING

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37. "bruh"
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you called it

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38. "definitely."
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I'm barely half-watching these episodes now. it's OK not to be as great as the first third of the season, but now it's just bad TV for all the reasons outlined above.

I'm probably just getting to the finish so I can bitch about it.

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navajo joe
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39. "Thank god that's over. "
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"We supposed be leaders, now why you wanna follow each other?"
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40. "“Damn you to hell”"
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So bad

  

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navajo joe
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41. "Bruh, he gets yelled at by one black woman and just gives up?"
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That whole shootout sequence was comically bad.

MOTHER NATURE!!!!!!!!

Fuck this show.

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42. "for a show that mastered tension so immediately, it's wild"
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>That whole shootout sequence was comically bad.
>

How it could end on two events that are completely devoid of tension. The shootout reminded me of every complaint I've ever heard about action movies being boring to people who just can't follow what's going on and who's where in the scene. It was so contrived. The pseudo-Mexican standoff too, I was just constantly wondering why anybody was doing anything they were doing, it was almost a parody.


>Fuck this show.
>
>

"Who's Terry?" would've been the perfect last line for this show, just for one last twist of the knife of a reminder how great the first half of this show was.


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43. "You put it perfectly"
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It's as if the first half of the show was True Detective Season 1 and the second half of the show as True Detective Season 2

I didn't look to see who directed the final episode but it was exactly what you said. Devoid of tension. That final jump 'scare' and the mid-credits stinger were equal parts unnecessary and cheap.

What a clusterfuck.

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45. "skimmed this post before I watched the last 2 episdoes"
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i figured, ya know, wow, someone yells that to our socially awkward Velociraptor, maybe after they kill it, maybe after it kills a main character....

ah! I see! it is yelling at our detective friend that is chugging Jack and yelling Mother Nature after shooting at a car.

i cant even process what happened in the cave. I have no idea what the kids and the town searching the caves had to do with our current character plight.

well done HBO, showing the boulder throw down preview of our accented Lead Detective. that is like previewing a boulder falling on Cersei.

im glad we are all agreeing it was awful, and watch-just-to-laugh-at-its-terribleness. congratulations to us all.

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44. "Can’t say they were at the goal line"
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But they definitely fumbled in the red zone. Can’t say I enjoyed much past the explanation of E Cuco. The finale was almost funny.

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46. "i think the finale saved the series"
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cynthia erivo was great. **spoiler below **





from the looks of it, there will be a second season with her
being the outsider, can't wait to see this.

  

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