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"in your opinion how would you fix the Superman Franchise"


  

          

It just doesn't seem to be the right theme for the world we currently live in. To bland.


The new movie was a let down and no where near the Batman Begins type of comeback it needed.


So in your opionion how would you fix it.

  

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supes need to be humanized
May 24th 2008
1
Kingdom Come the Movie?
May 25th 2008
7
      RE: Kingdom Come the Movie?
May 25th 2008
8
      it would take a half-billion to make tho, unless it was animated
May 25th 2008
17
           RE: it would take a half-billion to make tho, unless it was animated
May 25th 2008
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           I've always thought an animated version of it would be great
May 27th 2008
46
      yep
May 27th 2008
47
They need to let that mofo fight somebody
May 24th 2008
2
love of God, can we get a Brainiac movie?
May 24th 2008
3
^^
May 25th 2008
11
A movie with Braniac in it would be dope.
May 25th 2008
15
Kevin Smith's script for the Superman flick was heavy on Braniac
May 25th 2008
16
      1) have brainiac unleash a guh lac tus like wave of drones on earth
May 25th 2008
22
           7) Shia LaBeouf
May 25th 2008
26
he DOES need a real Supes villan
May 24th 2008
4
two words:
May 26th 2008
34
From Action Comics #775
May 24th 2008
5
That issue definitely should be adapted at some point...
May 25th 2008
29
problem ain't the franchise, it's the character
May 24th 2008
6
he's not invincible if
May 25th 2008
9
      That's what made Superman 2 work.
May 25th 2008
14
           Superman 2 worked?
May 25th 2008
20
                i dunno if in the way they're saying....but YES
May 25th 2008
27
                RE: Superman 2 worked?
May 25th 2008
28
Stop making them
May 25th 2008
10
oh....i dunno. maybe take a good story
May 25th 2008
12
Giving it to someone who understands the comic wouldn't hurt
May 25th 2008
13
read...
May 25th 2008
18
damn... cool idea. it would NEVER happen. but cool idea.
May 25th 2008
19
a giant mechanical spider
May 25th 2008
23
LOL
May 25th 2008
24
^^^Barbara Striesand's former hair-dresser
May 25th 2008
25
RE: ^^^Barbara Striesand's former hair-dresser
May 25th 2008
30
And maybe some Polar Bears. Also, get rid of the cape.
May 25th 2008
31
AND NO FLYING!!!!!
May 25th 2008
32
      *lays on the couch with hands up, visualizing movie*
May 27th 2008
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           ^^^From the streets
May 27th 2008
45
^^^why one should read threads before replying.
May 26th 2008
35
Just watched this story again, and it never gets old.
May 27th 2008
44
      It's funny every damn time
May 27th 2008
48
           RE: It's funny every damn time
May 27th 2008
52
i would stop making Superman movies.
May 26th 2008
33
nukkapedia said kingdom come the movie.
May 26th 2008
36
Call up Chris Nolan, problem solved...lol
May 26th 2008
37
Start by letting him throw a fucking punch...
May 26th 2008
38
IE, more action, less bitchassness
May 26th 2008
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      50 plus years of quality storytelling and motherfuckers can't...
May 26th 2008
42
don't deconstruct him
May 26th 2008
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in the comics, after SM died, didnt they...
May 26th 2008
40
Yeah, one was Steel, one ends up being Superboy who...
May 27th 2008
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      each of em got an issue dedicated to their spin off
May 27th 2008
50
Rubber nipples?
May 27th 2008
51
JOHN BYRNE........JOHN BYRNE......JOHN BYRNE..........
May 27th 2008
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RE: in your opinion how would you fix the Superman Franchise
May 27th 2008
54

Whiteout
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1. "supes need to be humanized"
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rather than just being anthropomorphic, because otherwise he's just not a compelling hero, and viewers can't really relate to a displaced alien who gains godlike powers from the adoptive yellow star.

The Doomsday arc has him dying, which could do it, but then that puts the movie franchise in the same sticky spot the comics were in after that event.

Perhaps an aging Supes, rather than the young look they went for with that last flick, could add some character. Or maybe a disillusioned Supes who has some kind of turmoil with his role of savior to a non-deserving populace.

I'm just shaking limbs here, seeing what falls.

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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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7. "Kingdom Come the Movie?"
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>Perhaps an aging Supes, rather than the young look they went
>for with that last flick, could add some character. Or maybe a
>disillusioned Supes who has some kind of turmoil with his role
>of savior to a non-deserving populace.

  

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8. "RE: Kingdom Come the Movie?"
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It could definitely work.

Fun is the new gritty

  

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17. "it would take a half-billion to make tho, unless it was animated"
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21. "RE: it would take a half-billion to make tho, unless it was animated"
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Only if they did a straight adaption which they'll never do with a comic book movie. I think taking the theme of new heroes replacing the old and a cynical Superman that retires could work, though.

Fun is the new gritty

  

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46. "I've always thought an animated version of it would be great"
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And yes, they should do a straight adaptation.

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47. "yep"
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That's pretty much what I had in mind

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but that shit's stupid though.

  

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2. "They need to let that mofo fight somebody"
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Not just natural disasters and shit.

Introduce Metallo or somebody into the movies.

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3. "love of God, can we get a Brainiac movie?"
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potential billion dollar gross.

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15. "A movie with Braniac in it would be dope."
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16. "Kevin Smith's script for the Superman flick was heavy on Braniac"
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22. "1) have brainiac unleash a guh lac tus like wave of drones on earth"
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2) have supes beat the crap out of them for a while

3) have the brainiac ship show up and beat the crap out of supes, send him into a mountain, and start taking over and threatening lois.

4) have supes get up and be mad and kick the crap out of the ship.

5) have brainiac in biped form come out. have supes grab him take him to the moon and bust his ass.

6) tease the darkseid or mongul movie after the credits.

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26. "7) Shia LaBeouf"
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4. "he DOES need a real Supes villan"
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they use Lex and "bs villan of the year" in almost ery movie...

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giant. mechanical. spider.

  

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5. "From Action Comics #775"
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Public opinion turns from Supes to a more aggressive brand of hero called the Elite. For the movie, I would use the Eradicator as the new "hero". Supes feels outdated and thinks about hanging up his tights, but comes to the rescue when the Eradicator lets innocents buy it in the crossfire. After defeating him, Supes discovers Erad is a cyborg and finds out the true villain--Brainiac. The people see who the real hero is, Kal destroys Brainiac (or does he?), Lois slobs him down as a reward.

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29. "That issue definitely should be adapted at some point..."
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I wouldn't put Brainiac in it just yet but I'd definitely put in the Elite. That was one of the best Superman stories in years.
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6. "problem ain't the franchise, it's the character"
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an invincible superhero ain't really all that heroic, cuz you ain't really risking shit.

They could go all miraceman on it, but that prolly won't happen

  

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9. "he's not invincible if"
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you pit him against a villain of comparable power.

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14. "That's what made Superman 2 work."
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20. "Superman 2 worked?"
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27. "i dunno if in the way they're saying....but YES"
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(i think dude meant to say "2" tho)

....i enjoyed Supes 2 & 3 more than the rest...if you mix the two you'd have the perfect Supes movie...everything Clark Kent/lois related in 2 sucked balls...if you take that shit OUT, and put in the clark kent story in 3, add Rich as the guy tryin to help the phantom zoners understand earth..and you got a better classic..

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28. "RE: Superman 2 worked?"
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I think so. The idea of Superman fighting three people just as powerful made for a decent sequel although WB tried their best to ruin it with the Niagara Falls scenes and that dreaded Cellophane S.

  

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10. "Stop making them"
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How many more movies about the same guy in tights do we really need?

  

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12. "oh....i dunno. maybe take a good story"
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13. "Giving it to someone who understands the comic wouldn't hurt"
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I'm not saying they have be slavishly true to form, but Singer pretty openly said he had no interest in the comic at all, and his movie showed that he didn't understand the characters.

Also, kiling the concept of Lex Luthor, wanna-be real estate king, would also be a great start. If you're going to use him, Lex Luthor, ultra-humanistic industrialist is so much more interesting.

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18. "read..."
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Superman: Secret Identity

I would love to see that as a movie.
Do something outside the box with a superhero movie.
I mean Superman Returns was outside, but too far out.
Even though I like the movie, they need to go to another direction.




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19. "damn... cool idea. it would NEVER happen. but cool idea."
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Thats funny stuff

  

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31. "And maybe some Polar Bears. Also, get rid of the cape."
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If the new Porno movie doesn't work out, I suggest he just goes around telling his various crazy stories.

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>If the new Porno movie doesn't work out, I suggest he just
>goes around telling his various crazy stories.

That's pretty much what he does anyway when he's not directing. Dudes make a grip of money on the "lecture" circuit.

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33. "i would stop making Superman movies."
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36. "nukkapedia said kingdom come the movie."
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that'd probably be one of the greatest moments in comic book history.

ever.

  

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37. "Call up Chris Nolan, problem solved...lol"
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38. "Start by letting him throw a fucking punch..."
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...finish by not giving me "a character piece."

I'd almost rather see J.J. Abrams stupid Superman trilogy than sit through another troubled Superman movie.

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41. "IE, more action, less bitchassness"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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42. "50 plus years of quality storytelling and motherfuckers can't..."
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...fucking pick up a graphic novel and say "This'll do."

Just adapt a comic storyline. Why is that so hard? And it ain't just Superman. All of 'em. I ain't saying you have to be shot by shot faithful (a la Rodriguez and Snyder), but for fuck's sake... I wish Hollywood would stop just taking properties and going "Well, let me retcon the whole fucking history of the character."

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39. "don't deconstruct him"
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don't get psychoanalytical. Realize that he's not popular because he's some kind of metaphor.
He's popular because he's awesome. Let him do awesome shit.

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40. "in the comics, after SM died, didnt they..."
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explore 4 'new' supermen who arose to fill the void

im trynna remember here, 1 was just some fed up dude in a metal suit, 1 was like this younger kid w powers, 1 was exactly like SM but all cold w no clark kent, im forgetting the last dude

what about alla that

it would be corny as all hell, but probably popular w the kids, easy to market, merchandise etc

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49. "Yeah, one was Steel, one ends up being Superboy who..."
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... is basically a clone but has different powers (i think) and went on to be part of the Teen Titans i believe, one was a robot i think that ended up being evil and I forget the forth. I didn't read it, but i remember looking at the book.



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50. "each of em got an issue dedicated to their spin off"
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i got em all

if the studios r watching and my idea pops off, hopefully they will go up in value

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51. "Rubber nipples?"
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"Fuck the streets!"

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53. "JOHN BYRNE........JOHN BYRNE......JOHN BYRNE.........."
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They need to use John Byrne's Man of Steel #1-6 and his run on Superman # 1-21 as the blueprint for the movies.......

Byrne's adaptation had it all......humanized Supes, a hip-updated version of him that wasn't derivative, Supes wasn't all-powerful, he had weaknesses that weren't based on a green rock, Byrne got rid of some of the more stupid elements of the Superman mythos (i.e. - Krypto the Super Dog) and did justice to the updates of some of Supes rogue gallery. Also, he made Lois sexy, yet driven without being stupid.

I haven't felt anything from the Superman franchise (comics or movies) since Byrne's update and movie-wise Supes 2. That whole doomsday stuff didn't move me at all. They need to take pages from Byrne's update - then you have your franchise back.

  

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54. "RE: in your opinion how would you fix the Superman Franchise"
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supes ain't practical for da' times.......i say shut da' franchise down.....it's had it's day.......

"You don't like climbing trees?......You're missin' out." - Michael Jackson

"But Michael, you're a 44-year-old man now, what do you get out of
this?" - Martin Bashir

"Prince Michael II but we call him Blanket......because it's an expression I use

  

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