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bignick
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"More Mencia drama."


  

          

http://www.dirtyrottengossip.com/Scandals/Carlos-Mencia-Hangs-Up-On-Radio-Show-After-Being-Questioned-About-Stealing-Material/

Carlos Mencia calls into San Diego radio show 'Cantore in the Morning' to talk about his fame and all the rumors surrounding him about stealing material. All is going well until comedian Ari Shaffir calls in and challenges him and Carlos gets fed up and hangs up!

  

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From what I've seen
Apr 01st 2007
1
I've never seen Ari's standup act, but I hate his guts.
Apr 02nd 2007
7
Error with the audio
Apr 01st 2007
2
Maybe he steals?
Apr 02nd 2007
4
At this poinrt: Mencia drama or "I'm Rick James, bitch"???
Apr 01st 2007
3
mencia is a joke himself
Apr 02nd 2007
5
that boy is done...
Apr 02nd 2007
6
i've never thought mencia was funny....
Apr 02nd 2007
8
Freddy was a really great comic.
Apr 02nd 2007
9
      was???
Apr 02nd 2007
10
      Click the link.
Apr 02nd 2007
11
           RE: Click the link.
Apr 02nd 2007
13
      ...regardless.
Apr 02nd 2007
14
Ari's currently in the process of compiling a collection of comics bits
Apr 02nd 2007
12
so, he's putting time into something that may actually make him famous?
Apr 02nd 2007
15
      Seriously
Apr 02nd 2007
16
      They do work on their own material...then ned steals it
Apr 02nd 2007
17
      What will it accomplish?
Apr 02nd 2007
27
           RE: What will it accomplish?
Apr 03rd 2007
45
                Grow up?
Apr 03rd 2007
51
      Actually, it's nothing like that.
Apr 02nd 2007
19
      bingo
Apr 02nd 2007
20
      I disagree
Apr 03rd 2007
      Still way, way off base.
Apr 03rd 2007
30
      There's speaking out and then there's bitching and moaning
Apr 03rd 2007
31
           Again..you're criticizing the wrong people.
Apr 03rd 2007
32
                They're going to look bad if they go about it that way
Apr 03rd 2007
33
                     Not to me or a lot of other people.
Apr 03rd 2007
36
                          We'll have to disagree
Apr 03rd 2007
37
                          I'm not blaming people for fucking up Kerry's campaign.
Apr 03rd 2007
38
                          A halfway decent campaign and he wins
Apr 03rd 2007
39
                               A halfway educated populace and he wins.
Apr 03rd 2007
42
                                    Spoken like a true disgruntled comic
Apr 03rd 2007
43
                                         You just comopared me to Bleek. Thanks.
Apr 03rd 2007
48
                          3 words...Swift Boat Ads
Apr 03rd 2007
47
                               And?
Apr 03rd 2007
50
                          Also, according to his own site...
Apr 03rd 2007
40
                          Rogan is huge.
Apr 03rd 2007
41
                               So part of Ari's reason for it is exposure?
Apr 03rd 2007
44
                               I'm no Ari Shaffir defender.
Apr 03rd 2007
49
                                    I don't doubt that
Apr 03rd 2007
52
                               aside from the mencia thing...rogan is a mediocre talent, since always
Apr 03rd 2007
57
                                    yes, people who steal work harder than those who work to create
Apr 03rd 2007
62
                                         right...hollywood is just giving a stealing latino comic everything
Apr 04th 2007
64
      Its Like Shawn Merriman making the pro bowl over someone else
Apr 03rd 2007
46
      DUPE
Apr 03rd 2007
29
      I think some good analogies are
Apr 04th 2007
66
      Stealing someone's creative work and getting big off it ain't cool
Apr 02nd 2007
24
           Yeah, Mencia really got big off of Ari's joke
Apr 02nd 2007
28
           RE: Yeah, Mencia really got big off of Ari's joke
Apr 03rd 2007
34
                Posting random youtube clips is an 8th graders way of fighting
Apr 03rd 2007
35
           nobody got big off that wack ass joke
Apr 03rd 2007
58
                What comic got big off of one joke?
Apr 03rd 2007
61
      ^^Rides for Ned and Isiah...Not sure which is more laughable
Apr 02nd 2007
18
           I don't think anyone is siding with Ned here
Apr 02nd 2007
21
           Nah, basa rides for him in every related post
Apr 02nd 2007
22
                basa rides wherever the short bus takes him, pay it no mind
Apr 02nd 2007
23
                     ^^^^^^ LOL that was funny
Apr 02nd 2007
25
                     ^^^Gets it.^^^
Apr 02nd 2007
26
                     2.5 years in....and i'm still being minded
Apr 03rd 2007
56
           i ride for people grindin and gettin theirs....you ride for whiners
Apr 03rd 2007
54
                the text of your message sums up Mencia
Apr 03rd 2007
60
question - esp for bignick
Apr 03rd 2007
53
LENO did that fence joke shit and black comic have done cos joke
Apr 03rd 2007
59
Where there's smoke, there's fire.
Apr 04th 2007
67
maybe mencia's "mocking" people like i get "mocked" on OKP
Apr 03rd 2007
55
you dont get mocked, you get straight up laughed at
Apr 03rd 2007
63
      why bother typing what you don't believe
Apr 04th 2007
65
           stick to claiming racism in places it doesnt exist over in OKsports
Apr 04th 2007
68
                they used to tell me to stick to The Lesson...so...
Apr 04th 2007
69
                     hmm...and you still.....dont...get it huh
Apr 04th 2007
70
                          no, i get it...do you get it?
Apr 04th 2007
71

PolarbearToenails
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1. "From what I've seen"
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Ari Shaffir is kind of awful. Maybe I'm wrong on that one though, it's a preliminary finding.

But Mencia is DEFINITELY awful. Ugh, he's terrible. Joke-stealer or not.

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7. "I've never seen Ari's standup act, but I hate his guts."
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He was that dude that made those bullshit ass "Amazing Racist" videos.



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2. "Error with the audio"
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What did Ari have to say? Maybe Mencia steals but the joke that that guy claims he stole is a VERY generic joke. I'm sure there's a lot of comics out there that tell that joke.

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4. "Maybe he steals?"
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Have you not seen the Cosby clip?

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Basaglia
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3. "At this poinrt: Mencia drama or "I'm Rick James, bitch"???"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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5. "mencia is a joke himself"
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6. "that boy is done..."
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http://twitter.com/AyeDreezy

  

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8. "i've never thought mencia was funny...."
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he's always bugged man. i saw him once over 10 years ago at the comedy store in la jolla (san diego). didn't think he was funny then or now.

now, freddie soto!! check for that dude. he's funny.

www.pacifictrainingcenter.com


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9. "Freddy was a really great comic."
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Glad I got too see him live more than once.

http://www.latinostandup.com/pages/soto.html

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10. "was???"
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did he die?

www.pacifictrainingcenter.com


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11. "Click the link."
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Make moves, not excuses.

  

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13. "RE: Click the link."
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i had no fucking idea. i loved that guy!

www.pacifictrainingcenter.com


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14. "...regardless."
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Mon Apr-02-07 06:46 PM by bignick

  

          

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12. "Ari's currently in the process of compiling a collection of comics bits"
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that Mencia stole

  

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15. "so, he's putting time into something that may actually make him famous?"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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16. "Seriously"
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I understand that stealing is taboo and the worst thing a comic can do but a lot of these guys should just work on their own material. It's like if Ryan Leaf was whining about people using steroids in the NFL.

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17. "They do work on their own material...then ned steals it"
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>I understand that stealing is taboo and the worst thing a
>comic can do but a lot of these guys should just work on their
>own material. It's like if Ryan Leaf was whining about people
>using steroids in the NFL.

so why not put together a comprehensive list of who and what is being stolen?

  

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27. "What will it accomplish?"
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Do you think anybody outside of the incestuous stand-up comedy world cares? Comedy Central has to already know about it and I highly doubt something like this is going to make them cancel his show.

And personally, I don't think someone who's entire schtick is shock, racist comedy shouldn't go around preaching about comedy.

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45. "RE: What will it accomplish?"
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>Do you think anybody outside of the incestuous stand-up
>comedy world cares? Comedy Central has to already know about
>it and I highly doubt something like this is going to make
>them cancel his show.
here's the swipe from his myspace page:

"Comics, tell me with your Carlos Mencia stories of theft

If you have any stories about how Carlos Mencia stole a joke, please send them to me. Send me a message with the subject, "Carlos Stole" or something like that. Tel me the story, and tell me if you don't want me to include your name and I'll make sure you're kept anonymous.

I want to compile a list of people and bits who were raided by the world's number one joke pirate. Make your voice heard. Be as detailed as possible and I'll edit it down to something usable.

But don't send it from fake accounts because I usually don't read those.

Let's do it comics. He normally skates by hoping that anyone accusing him of thievery will not know other people's material or enough of Mencia's material in order to catch him. If we have a list, I doubt he'll be able to claim parallel thinking or "I did that joke first" about all of that material."


>
>And personally, I don't think someone who's entire schtick is
>shock, racist comedy shouldn't go around preaching about
>comedy.

Hahah...This made me laugh

Grow up

  

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51. "Grow up?"
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Sorry, but I think shock racist comedy is one notch below stealing. And that's all that Shaffir is.

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19. "Actually, it's nothing like that."
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>It's like if Ryan Leaf was whining about people
>using steroids in the NFL.

It's like if Ryan Leaf finally had a good game and another QB got all the credit for it.

  

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20. "bingo"
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"I disagree"


          

It's a guy who's never made it big getting upset because someone else made it by cheating. That's all it is now. Maybe if they went about it in a better manner, dare I say, a more professional manner, they could have done something with it. But now they are just going back and digging through the Mencia files and pointing out other shit.

I get it. If Ari's taping Mencia's new shit and showing that he's continuing to steal, maybe he'd have something but right now I think most people are over hearing about this.

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30. "Still way, way off base."
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>It's a guy who's never made it big getting upset because
>someone else made it by cheating.

So because someone hasn't made it big, he doesn't get to complain if someone steals his work? That idea is fucking ridiculous.

Mencia steals from other comics and THEY get criticized for complaining about it.

Amazing.

  

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31. "There's speaking out and then there's bitching and moaning"
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Look at the way George Lopez handled it as opposed to Rogan and Ari. Louis C.K. doesn't bitch and moan this much and the guy who took his material is ten times bigger than Mencia. Ari might be fighting the right fight but he's doing it in the wrong way.

I feel for people who have their material stolen and won't support Mencia or watch any of his shit but, honestly, I'm sick of Rogan and Ari's crusade against him. If Mencia pulls something new, then call him out again but continally bitching about old shit (especially the weak joke of Ari's) is tired.

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bignick
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32. "Again..you're criticizing the wrong people."
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>Look at the way George Lopez handled it as opposed to Rogan
>and Ari. Louis C.K. doesn't bitch and moan this much and the
>guy who took his material is ten times bigger than Mencia.

That's the way those guys chose to deal with it. They're both huge and probably felt, "Fuck it. It's not hurting me." Rogan is huge too and he obviously felt, "Fuck it. This is wrong and I'm gonna say something about it." Neither of them is going about it the wrong way.

>Ari might be fighting the right fight but he's doing it in the
>wrong way.

Bullshit. If someone STEALS FROM YOU, I don't see anything wrong with calling them out on it as many times as you want to.

>I feel for people who have their material stolen and won't
>support Mencia or watch any of his shit but, honestly, I'm
>sick of Rogan and Ari's crusade against him. If Mencia pulls
>something new, then call him out again but continally bitching
>about old shit (especially the weak joke of Ari's) is tired.

Just because you're sick of hearing about it, doesn't make it any less valid. I hope they keep pounding this douche bag on this issue over and over again. Why? Because he's a fucking joke thief. He's the bad guy. Not them.

  

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33. "They're going to look bad if they go about it that way"
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Tue Apr-03-07 12:41 AM by SoulHonky

          

It doesn't matter if they are right or not. If we learned anything from John Kerry's loss to George Bush, it's that. If you fight the fight the wrong way, you'll end up looking worse for it. You bring up Cheney's daughter once too often and his hypocrisy becomes your picking on his daughter.

Ari and Rogan are fucking up. You can't argue against that. Rogan lost his main club and his representation over the shit. He came at it in a bullshit way and came out the loser even though everyone agreed with him. Honestly, if they are going to go about it this way then they should just man up and give Mencia a beating. It's about as effective of a plan.

This is an issue which most people don't care about and that Rogan and Ari are handling so that people won't want to hear about it anymore. And I'm going to bash those two just as much as I bash Kerry. If you are on my side of a fight and you fuck it up so bad that it makes it harder for others to stand up and be heard, then you need to put in check. I want to hear from those two clowns about as much as I'd want Kerry to take another crack at the white house.

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36. "Not to me or a lot of other people."
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Tue Apr-03-07 02:18 AM by bignick

  

          

>It doesn't matter if they are right or not.

Sorry, but I don't think like that.


>If we learned
>anything from John Kerry's loss to George Bush, it's that. If
>you fight the fight the wrong way, you'll end up looking worse
>for it. You bring up Cheney's daughter once too often and his
>hypocrisy becomes your picking on his daughter.

Wrong. What we learned fro Kerry's loss to Bush is that America is a nation of idiots who can be tricked into forgetting about a horrible economy, a huge national security lapse and a piece of shit president if you threaten them with gay marriage.

>Ari and Rogan are fucking up. You can't argue against that.
>Rogan lost his main club and his representation over the shit.

And Rogan has lost exactly zero dollars because of it. When you are a big named national headliner, your booking agent isn't hustling up gigs for you. Rogan can still go to any A list club in America and do a door deal for the weekend. Let's look at how big of a hit Rogan's career has taken because of this whole thing:

Pittsburgh Improv
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Homestead, PA
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Sacramento, CA 95825
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You were saying?

>This is an issue which most people don't care about and that
>Rogan and Ari are handling so that people won't want to hear
>about it anymore.

Again, so what if most people don't care about it? The bottom line is they're right, and it's not hurting either of their careers one iota.


>And I'm going to bash those two just as
>much as I bash Kerry.

And you're still wrong. Kerry didn't fuck up anything. The American people fucked up. And Rogan didn't fuck up anything. He pointed something out and tons of Mencia fans are too stupid to admit he's right. And apparently, some people don't like hearing the truth.

  

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37. "We'll have to disagree"
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Blaming the US people for John Kerry fucking up his campaign is ridiculous. The US is mostly idiots. True. But Kerry thought the best way to win idiots is to stand for nothing and to waffle and hopefully not piss anyone off. It was a joke. One of the worst run campaigns since Dukakis (except Dukakis had no chance of beating Reagan. Still, putting him in the tank for a photo op was awful)

You can support your guys but I think they've gone about it all wrong. I've officially wasted too much time on Carlos, Joe, and Ari. I should have been working on my own shit rather than wasting time on those two idiots and Rogan.

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38. "I'm not blaming people for fucking up Kerry's campaign."
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I'm blaming them for voting for a guy who spent 4 years proving that he's a moron and an awful President.

  

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39. "A halfway decent campaign and he wins"
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He didn't deliver that, didn't take a stand on anything, and he lost. Much like Ari and Rogan.

Okay, now I'm officially done wasting time on this.

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42. "A halfway educated populace and he wins."
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43. "Spoken like a true disgruntled comic"
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To quote Shadow Henderson, "That's right, the people don't come because you grandiose motherfuckers don't play shit that they like. If you played the shit that they like, then people would come, simple as that. "

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48. "You just comopared me to Bleek. Thanks."
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The fact remains that the idiotic, uneducated American people have no one to blame but themselves for the mess that we are in now.

  

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47. "3 words...Swift Boat Ads"
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50. "And?"
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The democrats had a decorated war hero and couldn't figure out a way to beat one of the worst presidents in our history. I'm sorry but I just can't put all the blame on the people. Hell, I didn't even want to vote for Kerry. I was just voting against George W.

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40. "Also, according to his own site..."
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He signed with the William Morris agency directly after getting dropped from Gersh. And I thought it was interesting that he said a lot of comics left Gersh after this, including Louis CK.

Go Wings.

  

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41. "Rogan is huge."
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Ari Shaffir will get exposed to lots of people he wouldn't otherwise get exposed to.

Rogan is already nearly as big as Mencia as a standup and bigger than him as a guy. Rogan has had two network TV series. And he's actually funny. So he's doing OK.

Listen: Rogan has always HATED joke thieves. He's going to be on my show, so I've been reading interviews with him where he talks about originality in comedy and not being a thief from years ago. He just has principles.

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44. "So part of Ari's reason for it is exposure?"
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I have no problem with Rogan as a comic. I just think he's handling this in the wrong way.

And personally, I hope Ari fails. I've been meaning to write something about this on my site but I think he's pretty much everything that's wrong with edgy comedy nowadays. I'll throw it in my sig when I finally write it but I think the shock racist comedy is one notch below stealing material in terms of laziness.

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49. "I'm no Ari Shaffir defender."
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I think both Shaffir and Rogan want exposure, but I get the impression they're sincere about it as well.

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52. "I don't doubt that"
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I just think they are going about it all wrong.

I'm not sure why this is such a controversial statement.

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57. "aside from the mencia thing...rogan is a mediocre talent, since always"
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i don't like him, ari or "ned"...they all wack.

but mencia is working harder...period.

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62. "yes, people who steal work harder than those who work to create"
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you're right
as usual
basa on point

  

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64. "right...hollywood is just giving a stealing latino comic everything"
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mencia has it made.

he's half-stepped his way to greater fame and fortune than ari and joe.

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46. "Its Like Shawn Merriman making the pro bowl over someone else"
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29. "DUPE"
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delete this one

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66. "I think some good analogies are"
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Sudden Death: Where Darren McCord, played by Jean-Claude Van Damme, slips in unnoticed at goalie and helps out the Pittsburgh Penguins in the Stanley Cup.

Naked Gun: Where Frank Drebin pretends to be Enrico Pallazzo and saves Queen Elizabeth.

  

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24. "Stealing someone's creative work and getting big off it ain't cool"
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No matter how you slice it

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28. "Yeah, Mencia really got big off of Ari's joke"
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I know Mencia steals. I get it. I got it the first time Rogan brought it up. But Ari's joke was generic and the fact that they are obsessing about this is getting to be pathetic.

The way Rogan and Ari are going about this makes them look pathetic IMO. Mencia made it in a fucked up way. Great. Tell your friends to boycott him. Get other performers to refuse to work with him. But this public whining makes them look bad as much as it does Mencia IMO.

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34. "RE: Yeah, Mencia really got big off of Ari's joke"
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>Great.
>Tell your friends to boycott him. Get other performers to
>refuse to work with him. But this public whining makes them
>look bad as much as it does Mencia IMO.

But isn't that exactly what the public "whining" is doing? It is getting people to boycott him and refuse to work with him. It is informing the average person and comedy fans alike. What better way to spread your message than using outlets such as Youtube, blogs, radio shows, etc?

Go Wings.

  

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35. "Posting random youtube clips is an 8th graders way of fighting"
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If you want to try to cut Mencia down, you start with an organized, united front. Don't throw random shit out here and there, pulling from Lopez's Stern intervew (rather than getting George himself to speak out along with them), and acting like "we found Carlos stealing again!" and then showing a clip that's like two years old. People get that he steals and most average people are probably already over it. It's too late to put together a comprehensive piece IMO. They should have put it together in the beginning so that it had more of an effect.

Once the first blow up occurred, put together a comprehensive list of everything to show Mencia's true colors. That will get people's attention. Now Ari seems to be doing it because none of their other antics have had much effect. Personally, I think they are making themselves look bad and taking the focus off Mencia (although I think Ari's routine on his own does a pretty good job of making himself look like a jackass).

I'm not defending Mencia but I simply don't agree with the juvenile way that Rogan and Ari have handled this.

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58. "nobody got big off that wack ass joke"
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if the joke was so damn great, ari would be doing beer commercials, cast in ben stiller movies and have his own show.

this is the problem i have with rogaine and his crew. they tryna use this shit to discredit everything about the guy and bring themselves up.

the thing they didn't count on is that no one gives a shit about them and they have no charisma.

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61. "What comic got big off of one joke?"
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some dudes have "signature" bits, comics get big from being able to do a full set.

The reason that comics get so pissed about this is that every show they're trying out one, two maybe even a whole set of new bits to work with, then going back and building on what worked and either shitcanning or rehabilitating what didn't. A guy that gets big while filling in gaps in his act with other people's stuff is a big fucking deal to people who are legitimately "grinding" as you say Mencia is. When he's getting big, he isn't getting his. He's getting theirs.

It's the same reason blues musicians got pissed at Led Zeppelin, the Stones, or Elvis when they first came out.

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18. "^^Rides for Ned and Isiah...Not sure which is more laughable"
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Its probably the white media thats created this whole "carlos steals material" shit too

Bill Simmons is behind this, I swear

  

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21. "I don't think anyone is siding with Ned here"
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It's just that some of us are getting kind of tired of the hooplah already.

Mencia's not funny, he steals, and he's hugely successful. If stand-ups feel wronged in some way, there are proper channels to go through, and I'm pretty sure Youtube isn't one of them.

You think Bill Cosby gives a shit?

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22. "Nah, basa rides for him in every related post"
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23. "basa rides wherever the short bus takes him, pay it no mind"
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25. "^^^^^^ LOL that was funny"
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Now Mencia gonna steal it and incorporate that retard noise he does.

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26. "^^^Gets it.^^^"
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56. "2.5 years in....and i'm still being minded"
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54. "i ride for people grindin and gettin theirs....you ride for whiners"
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and fuckups who get passes

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60. "the text of your message sums up Mencia"
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>and fuckups who get passes

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53. "question - esp for bignick"
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not trying to defend anyone - but from the clips ive seen - arent most if not all of these jokes in question super generic premises that anyone could have thought of? people can have the same good idea on their own.....

that border fence joke that was supposedly stolen? im sure a gazillion people have said that line in routines and around water coolers. the cosby one? cosby is a great comic, but i dunno if i can't see someone coming up with that particular joke either

thoughts?

  

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59. "LENO did that fence joke shit and black comic have done cos joke"
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67. "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
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It's not just the fence joke. George Lopez got physical with the guy because he felt that insulted by the depths of his thievery.

And yes, people have similar premises all the time. But if multiple people are calling you a thief and instead of denying it, you spend time calling them jealous...you're probably not just coming up with the exact same joke as all these other people.

And even if he didn't steal that Cosby joke, he's still kind of a slacker for not being familiar enough with "Himself" to realize that it's already been done.

  

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55. "maybe mencia's "mocking" people like i get "mocked" on OKP"
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63. "you dont get mocked, you get straight up laughed at"
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65. "why bother typing what you don't believe"
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on one hand, guys like you get upset that i have a "following"...and on the other, you purloin my steez for the sake of mocking, even when not responding to me.

i don't get it.

but, it's for you to rationalize not me. i ignore people i don't fuck wit on these boards.

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68. "stick to claiming racism in places it doesnt exist over in OKsports"
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69. "they used to tell me to stick to The Lesson...so..."
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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mcdeezjawns
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70. "hmm...and you still.....dont...get it huh"
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Basaglia
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71. "no, i get it...do you get it?"
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it goes something like this.

you don't like me.

i don't care.

other people like me.

you care.

i still don't care.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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