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philpot
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"i've reached the point of feeling guilty for illegally downloading"


  

          

took me a while, but im realizing im not entitled to this music if the artist didnt make it free

this is a good development, and posters un the lesson have helped this realization

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i reached that phase a year or so ago
Feb 16th 2012
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well that makes one of us.
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right. only 2343043432423 to go!
Feb 16th 2012
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how did this happen?
Feb 16th 2012
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maybe just maturation...
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did anyone use rnbxclusive.com
Feb 16th 2012
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i hate downloading music from illegal sources.
Feb 16th 2012
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last night i noticed my iTunes library tags or whatever have no space
Feb 16th 2012
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DUDE.... DON'T GET ME STARTED ON TAGGING!!!
Feb 16th 2012
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LOL
Feb 16th 2012
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Yeah, MP3tag (the software) opened my eyes to a lot of that
Feb 16th 2012
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lack of labels is one of the things that makes mp3's so eh to me.
Feb 16th 2012
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Grouping is where I put this
Feb 16th 2012
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      i don't.
Feb 17th 2012
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Browsing iTunes makes you think of digging through 45s? Really?
Feb 16th 2012
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in a way, yeah.
Feb 16th 2012
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      Fam, nothing against you personally but...
Feb 16th 2012
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           fuck apple.
Feb 16th 2012
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i've actually bought more since they implimented iCloud
Feb 16th 2012
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CO. SIGN.
Feb 17th 2012
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I'm surprised
Feb 16th 2012
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good for you, guy!
Feb 16th 2012
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How come the arguments defending it stopped working for you?
Feb 16th 2012
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they just started feeling hollow and selfish...
Feb 16th 2012
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The good news is there's a ridiculous amount of free heat
Feb 16th 2012
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yep, plus lots of stuff is so reasonably priced...
Feb 16th 2012
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At this point, I'm a nihilist
Feb 16th 2012
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I never felt bad about it ever.
Feb 16th 2012
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does it count as stealing if I check the music out at the library???
Feb 16th 2012
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i think you are violating a liscensing agreement somewhere.
Feb 16th 2012
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HaHa... I'm sure I am too...
Feb 16th 2012
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only if you retain an unauthorized copy of it after you return it
Feb 16th 2012
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I retain songs in my iTunes...
Feb 16th 2012
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hahaha i'm sure that *feels* less dirty... but it still is
Feb 16th 2012
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tell me more about this *paying* for *music* concept...
Feb 16th 2012
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That's great. I'm the download then buy if i really like it type.
Feb 16th 2012
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i only download OOP stuff so me no feel guilty
Feb 16th 2012
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Spotify has changed a lot for me
Feb 16th 2012
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i feel guilty for taping Stretch & Bobbito all those years....
Feb 16th 2012
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lol
Feb 16th 2012
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no.
Feb 16th 2012
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lol
Feb 17th 2012
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with over 300 original cds in my collection i feel authorized to
Feb 16th 2012
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RE: with over 300 original cds in my collection i feel authorized to
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I reached that point about a year ago myself.
Feb 16th 2012
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ok, i don't even know why i'm about to say this, cuz i know ppl aren't
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this is an underratted reply
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RE: i've reached the point of feeling guilty for illegally downloading
Feb 16th 2012
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are you fuckin serious?
Feb 17th 2012
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right? these dudes is killing me here
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      I can honestly say I haven't seen that argument yet lol
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Hopefully you're trolling.
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yeah
Feb 16th 2012
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there's always the very catchy 'pirate'
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Guilt is a useless emotion imo but
Feb 16th 2012
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meh.
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I mainly download free music, OOP, and hard to find.
Feb 16th 2012
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Only time I don't feel guilty is when
Feb 17th 2012
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i dont feel bad if i get stones throw
Feb 17th 2012
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Those guys must hire blog assassins
Feb 17th 2012
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My spotify account absolves me of all my sin.
Feb 17th 2012
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I hope I never reach this point
Feb 17th 2012
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Why?
Feb 17th 2012
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      I enjoy listening to shit without guilt
Feb 17th 2012
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When these artist reach the point of feeling guilty for putting out crap
Feb 17th 2012
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Since Spotify, I barely download anything anymore
Feb 17th 2012
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This describes the entirety of the illegal downloading
Feb 17th 2012
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I stopped downloading a long time ago.
Feb 17th 2012
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Did anyone ever feel guilty about buyin used CDs?
Feb 17th 2012
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Here's how i REALLY feel about it
Feb 17th 2012
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GumDrops
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1. "i reached that phase a year or so ago"
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plus my ipod broke and i havent bothered to get it fixed, which has something to do with it (i think ive missed out on quite a lot of stuff)

  

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2. "well that makes one of us."
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4. "right. only 2343043432423 to go!"
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3. "how did this happen?"
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philpot
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22. "maybe just maturation..."
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idk for sure

but points that you, discodj and others have made on here (that at the time i vehemently disagreed with as i was in denial re: my attitude of entitlement) have stuck with me

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5. "did anyone use rnbxclusive.com"
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shit got shut down yesterday... huge story all over the internet... i went there on the regular

  

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Joe Corn Mo
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6. "i hate downloading music from illegal sources."
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it's not a moral thing, either.
although i don't neccessarily feel great about stealing.

i just miss the aspect of browsing.

like... i can browse iTunes.
and i get pretty cover art and liner notes.

blog searches are ugly.
googles searches are ugly.

iTunes is pretty,
and it reminds me of buying 45s from the record store.






all the files are downloaded and properly tagged.
it just makes the music library look nice on my computer.



it's just nice to have everythign look pretty on my computer.
and the iTunes store is decent simulation
of looking around in a record shop.

  

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9. "last night i noticed my iTunes library tags or whatever have no space"
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to indicate record label. or at least i couldn't find it.

i wondered how the various labels have worked so closely w/Apple even though iTunes isn't in the business of promoting the record labels via those tags.

this thought wasn't presented coherently. lol

fuck you.

  

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12. "DUDE.... DON'T GET ME STARTED ON TAGGING!!!"
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there is information for all of that stuff Label, producer, songwriter, musicians, etc. in the ID3 tagging system. All of that shit is there. You can get another program and put the information in there yourself. But iTunes won't show it so nobody does. fucking idiotic.
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14. "LOL"
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it struck me that i have no idea what label released many of the files in my iTunes library.

fuck you.

  

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15. "Yeah, MP3tag (the software) opened my eyes to a lot of that"
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>But iTunes won't show it so nobody does. fucking idiotic.

  

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17. "lack of labels is one of the things that makes mp3's so eh to me."
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i don't care what nobody says...
MJ don't sound the same
when you can't see the epic logo spinning on the record.


so i don't even bother w/ label tags for mp3s.
it's not the same anyway.



and most of the iTunes files for old shit
wouldn't even be right, anyway.

marvin gaye came out on tamla.
not motown, and certainly not universal...
which i'm sure is what the labels would make it say anyway.

fucking bullshit.

  

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42. "Grouping is where I put this"
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What else would you put there?


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58. "i don't."
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i have way too many mp3s to be bothered w/that now. i just didn't notice until this week that iTunes doesn't have a space identifying the label that released the mp3s in my library.

fuck you.

  

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16. "Browsing iTunes makes you think of digging through 45s? Really?"
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Cover art the size of a thumbnail?

To each his own, but wow. I've never seen someone compare buying MP3s online to actually going to a record store.

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18. "in a way, yeah."
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of course it's not perfect,
but when is the last time i was able to buy singles? lol


i just like the layout of the iTunes store.

it ain't perfect,
but in this digital age... it's about all you could ask for.

  

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19. "Fam, nothing against you personally but..."
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I hate you. Like, on the real for supporting apple.

Amazon cloud or google music ALL DAY (gunshot sounds)

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27. "fuck apple."
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but i love apple products.
they let me use computers w/o having to know anything about them.


i plug my iPod or iPhone my iPad into my mac book
and i can drag the purchases i made from iTunes
from one device to another, and it comes w/ all of the beautiful cover art and liner notes.

no hassle. no problem.
one click.

no real worries about viruses.


it's technology for folks
that don't dig technology. lol

  

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37. "i've actually bought more since they implimented iCloud"
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shit is impulsive now

  

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50. "CO. SIGN. "
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>all the files are downloaded and properly tagged.
>it just makes the music library look nice on my computer.

>it's just nice to have everythign look pretty on my computer.
>and the iTunes store is decent simulation
>of looking around in a record shop.


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7. "I'm surprised"
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I figured people had their feelings on this pretty well sorted out already, and it seemed like both sides of the argument were only getting more entrenched every day. But I'm glad to have someone else on my side.

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8. "good for you, guy!"
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fuck you.

  

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10. "How come the arguments defending it stopped working for you?"
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21. "they just started feeling hollow and selfish..."
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and i started thinking, like i said above, that im just not entitled to steal someone's product they are selling bc i can and want to

cats are putting in time and work to make these tunes, if i like the music and they need to get paid off it who am i to just steal it? how can i enjoy "owning" this artist's work if i havent invested a few bucks in the artist themself and helped them out the same way they provide me joy and entertainment w/ their tunes?

ESPECIALLY since most of the artists i love are indie grinders who need fan support to keep from stopping and having to get a 9-5?

AND so much legit free shit anyway, seems petty to take the shit that they are askin $ dor too



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11. "The good news is there's a ridiculous amount of free heat"
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23. "yep, plus lots of stuff is so reasonably priced..."
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$8 on bandcamp for a whole album, $5 mp3 albums on amazon

dope beattapes and stuff like this for $5, "name your price" downloads, etc

between the free shit and cheap shit u can get a lot more dope music bang 4 ur buck than back in the days, and still fully support the music u listen to

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13. "At this point, I'm a nihilist "
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20. "I never felt bad about it ever."
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All the artists I have downloaded have come out on top in the end. I know it isn't the case with most people but I just happen to buy a ton of music so even when I download, if i like it I purchase either that same album, or their releases from then on. Otherwise I would have not listened to them at all. (speaking about non hip-hop, hip hop releases I just download to hear sooner then I buy them).

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24. "does it count as stealing if I check the music out at the library???"
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Thats where the majority of my music comes from now...

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26. "i think you are violating a liscensing agreement somewhere."
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i think.
maybe.

idunno.

probablly. lol

  

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28. "HaHa... I'm sure I am too..."
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I turn libraries upside down...

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30. "only if you retain an unauthorized copy of it after you return it"
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so I'm in a band now:
album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
Soundcloud ---> http://soundcloud.com/greenwood-burns

my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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31. "I retain songs in my iTunes..."
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so... yes...

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39. "hahaha i'm sure that *feels* less dirty... but it still is "
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don't worry.. no judgment from me... you're just keeping the files for historical purposes - it's from the library

  

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25. "tell me more about this *paying* for *music* concept... "
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29. "That's great. I'm the download then buy if i really like it type."
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I feel really guilty if I DON'T buy it.

I have a friend who shamelessly downloads everything and gives me the side-eye when I told him I bought something. So, I do feel music will be "free" eventually because buyers are a dying breed. Another route must be made.

  

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32. "i only download OOP stuff so me no feel guilty"
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i refuse to get ass raped at ebay or any similar site.

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33. "Spotify has changed a lot for me"
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especially when they linked with Last.Fm.

  

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34. "i feel guilty for taping Stretch & Bobbito all those years...."
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45. "lol"
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smoothcriminal12
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35. "no."
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I call it a "loan".

I am getting their album indefinitely, and I will pay them back when I get the chance too. That way I don't feel so bad about it.

  

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69. "lol"
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This dude said loan. Hahaaa

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Hellyeah
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36. "with over 300 original cds in my collection i feel authorized to"
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download as much as i want...plus i'll never pay for mp3s (at least not at the current prices)

  

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70. "RE: with over 300 original cds in my collection i feel authorized to"
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Mp3s aren't such a bad value now. If you buy with amazon they will back up your music indefinitely AND you have online access to the music from any browser. And to that the fact that you don't need to rip CDs and that MP3s are already cheap than CDs and I think that's a pretty good value.

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lakai336
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38. "I reached that point about a year ago myself."
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Generation entitled is still lying to themselves and pretending they hurt major, sell-out, materialistic artists. They don't, even when it flips to a new system, trust me they'll get way more caked off the usual mainstream shit than any of your present favorite rappers (who by now have given up anyway and just give away shit for free, especially the newer rappers). If you think the internet is the great equalizer, you're in denial, small labels will go way before any majors and as soon as profitable alternative outlets spring up, you know who's buying them.

Anyways I don't know if your intensely loyal to apple and iTunes, I'm not, thus I use Rhapsody. Rhapsody and Zune subscription services are ridiculously underrated. Basically, I get the best of both worlds and can access everything I used to as an illegal downloader. The only thing I download anymore is unreleased shit/bootlegs, which I don't consider illegal considering it's obviously unreleased and was never put for sale.

With Rhapsody, for only about 15 bucks a month (if you do the math that's less than 5 dollars a week), I can add any album I want to my music library. I can also transfer any of these albums to my Sansa mp3 player and thus take my music anywhere I go. What I like a lot, eventually gets bought on CD and ripped to .Flac. What I don't feel is worth buying (like a couple of tracks but nothing essential) I keep in the music library.

The only downside to all of this is that you can only do it with specific mp3 players. Zune is obviously for Microsoft mp3 players, Rhapsody rolls with the SanDisk Sansa line and a couple others. Ipods offer much more space than any Sansas, but in truth I don't miss the space. I'd rather pay 15 a month and take the time to switch out albums every once in awhile (as you get tired and want to hear something different anyway) then wait until I can afford a massive music library to put on my Ipod.

I'm yet to buy any digital music though. I still only purchase what I can find on CD. The rest stays on Rhapsody. I'd purchase MP3's if I could find somewhere to buy them in lossless format, though the more good albums that are released digitally, the closer I am to saying fuck it and buying the mp3 versions.

So basically, I have equal access to the music I like as I did during my illegal days and the artists get some compensation too.

  

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DonWonJusuton
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40. "ok, i don't even know why i'm about to say this, cuz i know ppl aren't"
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gonna be happy... buuuut...

would y'all consider it fair to trade your social media "likes" and "follows" and "retweets" and website "hits" and youtube "views," etc. for feeling ok about illegally downloading?

i know that sounds bad at first, but considering the fact that a lot of the money that artists receive (if not most of the money) comes from other ventures outside of albums sales.. marketing clout is measured in vastly different ways now and 4M twitter followers probably means more to most advertising agencies than a platinum record... that drives up asking prices for appearances, commercials, record deals, performance fees, etc. etc.... we give tokens of our fandom away for free and artists can and DO use that to make money... w/o giving us anything other than the chance to see them selling another (unrelated) product to us... now, that doesn't work for all artists... but all of that stuff could be just as helpful to struggling artists who need more exposure - maybe to get signed, maybe to book a gig across the country or overseas... and there was a time when marketing yourself used to cost money... our appreciation and tangible support actually makes money.. it's actually *heavily* involved in commerce...

i'm not even agreeing or disagreeing w/ what i just said - i don't even know if i've made up my mind on that... but it was just something i was thinking about and wanted to throw out for discussion..

  

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67. "this is an underratted reply"
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Everything you said, plus more, will be part of the future.

You should still find a way to support the stuff you like monetarily though...

  

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41. "RE: i've reached the point of feeling guilty for illegally downloading"
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I will say this.

Since the plantation owners had 400-500 years of complimentary free labor from my ancestors.

Not mention, Jim Crow, unreported lynchings, current negative assumptions of black folk, etc...

This is a small level of get back...

  

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49. "are you fuckin serious?"
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ugh.

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59. "right? these dudes is killing me here"
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people using slavery to justify pirating now? fuh real?

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61. "I can honestly say I haven't seen that argument yet lol"
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>people using slavery to justify pirating now? fuh real?


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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

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lakai336
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63. "Hopefully you're trolling."
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Otherwise, this is just ridiculous to begin with. As previously stated, you ain't strictly hurting "the man", your actually much more directly and much more effectively hurting your favorite independent rappers (many of whom happen to be Black, making this whole argument that much more out of it's mind).

So really you're helping ensure said rapper doesn't get the chance to speak his or her mind and instead goes 9-5ing it for the system.

  

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43. "yeah"
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i used to illegally download (i'm kinda surprised no one's came up with a catchier name that 'download', but anyway) but i kinda reached the same conclusion.

plus i find that when i just download the album, i get entitled and don't really try to enjoy the music for what it is. when i buy an album, i'm more committed to try and like it or appreciate some aspect to it.

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53. "there's always the very catchy 'pirate'"
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>i used to illegally download (i'm kinda surprised no one's
>came up with a catchier name that 'download', but anyway)

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album ---> http://greenwoodburns.bandcamp.com/releases
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my own stuff -->http://soundcloud.com/lonesomedstringband

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44. "Guilt is a useless emotion imo but"
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do what u feel is right for you definitely. Support will always > downloading. Downloading isn't illegal btw (as in from sites like megaupload, not yet) unless u get it from P2P applications. But morally, it's an issue for some.

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mwasi kitoko
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46. "meh."
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www.royallegacy.org
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47. "I mainly download free music, OOP, and hard to find."
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Occasionally I'll download something new but I typically buy the stuff that I like. For instance, I downloaded Janell Monet's Archandroid, liked it, and ended up buying a physical copy. If it's wack with exception to a couple of songs, I don't buy.

  

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48. "Only time I don't feel guilty is when"
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it's some rare ass bootleg that's not commercially available.

Other than that I'm buying the shit. The CD or LP. Fuck mp3s.

D'ANGELO beat tape PART 2: https://chrisp.bandcamp.com/album/dangelo-beat-tape-2020

IPHONE LP2 “A beatmaker who loved” https://music.apple.com/us/album/a-beatmaker-who-loved/1473644375

  

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51. "i dont feel bad if i get stones throw"
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them niggas fight back too vigorously

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Dre makes no apologies for his own eccentricities. “I was young, and searching, trying to find myself,” he says. “Never did.”-- Andre B

  

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62. "Those guys must hire blog assassins"
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52. "My spotify account absolves me of all my sin. "
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I am paying monthly for music so I don't worry much about where I get it (spotify or not. But I am able to get it mostly through spotify).

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54. "I hope I never reach this point"
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OL' DIRTY BASTARD on himself:
"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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55. "Why?"
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I don't like the beat anymore because its just a loop. ALC didn't FLIP IT ENOUGH!

Flip it enough? Flip these. Flip off. Go flip some f*cking burgers.(c)Kno

Allied State of the National Electric Beat Treaty Organization (NEBTO)

  

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CMcMurtry
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57. "I enjoy listening to shit without guilt"
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___________________________
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"I may curse, I may have a bad mouth, whatever whatever. I'm not that bad, yaknow'mean. Bad to y'all, I dunno how y'all... I don't give a fuck. Um, I'm a good person at heart, for real and shit.

  

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OldPro
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56. "When these artist reach the point of feeling guilty for putting out crap"
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I'll follow suit
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60. "Since Spotify, I barely download anything anymore"
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It's kind of made me slow down and digest albums better. I realize that I have so much stuff I downloaded just to download that I have probably listened to 1% of it all. I download a lot of stuff thinking I am going to have a need for it one day and it just sits on my hard drive

  

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lakai336
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64. "This describes the entirety of the illegal downloading"
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set. Props to you for admitting it. They'll say they listen to all of it, but their definition of listen pales in comparison to pre-internet listeners. Their listens means maybe a front to back one time, a couple of songs about 10-15 times for the next two weeks, then on to the next one.

That was a huge influence in choosing to stop for me. I got tired of dealing with disposable music and having an ever diminishing attention span coupled with an ever increasing desire for new music. My standards are higher now, if I can't listen to it on and off for 3-5 months, don't even bother with it.

  

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BarTek
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65. "I stopped downloading a long time ago."
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let's play ping pong ■

  

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66. "Did anyone ever feel guilty about buyin used CDs?"
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because that's not going to the artist either. I swear music heads is pussified nowadays.

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Abstract_TheEclectic_Nubian
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68. "Here's how i REALLY feel about it"
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I've been buying tapes and CDs for almost 20 yrs. So that means I have supported literally THOUSANDS of artist with my own money. If I were to add up all the money I have spent on CDs, Tapes, concerts DVDs, not to mention the frequent Itunes downloads, I'm sure It would be enough to put my ass in a decent little house. Matter of fact, I'm quite sure I've helped pay off some of these niggas mortgages and I ain't even got a house myself! Now do I regret supporting those artists? Absolutely not! IMO there is no better way to throw money away than to support your favorite artist. Am I gonna feel sorry for downloading your shit though? Nope! I been supporting yall niggas and will continue to do so...if it is convineint, meaning if your shit is accesible and if I have the money to pay for it. There are no record shops were I live anymore...only BEST BUY and artist I like or could be remotely interested in seldomn come to my neck of the woods. AND I ain't runnin' up my damn credit card bill for a cd that I have to wait for 2 weeks, when I can get it for free in 2 min. I dare any motherfucker to tell me I ain't do my part!

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