"Can we talk bout Salaam Remi’s legacy for a minute!?!"
Specifically his lack of accolades. I’ve been rocking with dude since the Super Cat days in the 90s. He basically invented the trend of putting dancehall artists over hip hop beats. But that ain’t what this post is about.
I stumbled over an article where I read he has 9 Grammy noms. But 0 wins. I was like this can’t be right. Im sure he won a Grammy or two for Amy’s Back To Black.
Looked it up and sure enough he wasn’t even nominated for his work on the album. But we all know who was…. Mark Ronson. Mark won record of the year for Rehab. AND producer of the year for Back to Black.
My jaw dropped. How the fuck does this happen. Mark and Salaam split production duties right down the middle across the 11 cuts on the album. Granted, none of Salaam’s tracks were singles.
But the album is not the crowning achievement it’s known to be if you erase the 5 tracks Salaam did. Shit is wild to me!
It’s a fucking crime this man was not acknowledged in the same way Ronson was in 2008.
2. "Saved The Fugees career IMO" In response to Reply # 0
That will always be his legacy to me The Fugees hit with that Mona Lisa jawn...and quickly followed up with an album...that was straight garbage I think Lauryn has a solo jawn on the first album...but other than those 2 songs...that album was a miss ...until that Vocab remix hit... I remember thinking at the time, The Fugees could have fallen through the cracks like so many groups But that Vocab remix saved them
Interesting point about B2B, hadn't really thought about it that way Valid. The BT jawn was hot...and his album last year
6. "? I remember it differently" In response to Reply # 4 Fri Nov-19-21 11:02 AM by bentagain
That was the lead single...not sure that it was left off the album 100% positive the vocab remix was not on the album...and the album version sucked Point being, after the nappy heads single dropped...there wasn't anything from that album to follow it up with the Vocab remix was the 2nd single w/o it, they could have disappeared like so many acts that didn't capitalize on the success of a single
7. "I know that tapes and CDs differed at times" In response to Reply # 6
I bought the Blunted On Reality tape and Nappy Heads (the remix that we loved) wasnt on it. The original version has the Big Daddy Kane "Young Gifted & Black" sample https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvnnbc4pw5A
that album was a flop, but they got another chance years later with Fugee-La, then they got bigger and blew up with Ready Or Not/Killing Me Softly
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9. "it was Nappy Heads remix.. I bought the single and was MAD AF" In response to Reply # 6
Wyclef screaming and shit.. it was so wack.
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15. "^^say word. Without Salaam, they were one and done" In response to Reply # 14
Blunted on Reality was not a good album. If they don't get Nappy Heads remixed, they would have been another hip hop footnote.
Lauren should have given him one of her Grammys as thanks
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3. "Ill be that person..Ronson's songs were better than Salaams songs" In response to Reply # 0
Salaam should get every accolade and be wayyyyy more known but specifically on Back to Black..Ronson gave the A+ material and Salaam gave the B...shrugs
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5. "Remi worked with Amy on Frank" In response to Reply # 3
Fuck Me Pumps is how I got into Amy I also believe his portion of B2B was recorded before Ronson Remi was a major key in her sound...before Ronson entered the picture Tears Dry on Their Own was a big record Puts some respect on the man's name.
8. "specifically countering the back to black stuff said in the post" In response to Reply # 5 Fri Nov-19-21 12:15 PM by tomjohn29
I was specifically talking about the songs on back to black...not frank every word we both said was true you right on Frank im right on back to black fin
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18. "RE: Ill be that person..Ronson's songs were better than Salaams songs" In response to Reply # 3
>Salaam should get every accolade and be wayyyyy more known >but specifically on Back to Black..Ronson gave the A+ material >and Salaam gave the B...shrugs
Nope.
Tears Dry On Their Own: A+ Just Friends: A+ Me & Mr. Jones: A Some Unholy War: A- Addicted: B+
Only thing on BTB that's Ronson-produced that is greater than or equal to all of these would be "Love is a Losing Game": A+.
13. "RE: Can we talk bout Salaam Remi’s legacy for a minute!?!" In response to Reply # 0
Love Salaam..
The issue is simple, he doesn't talk much. In order to be a "super-producer" you have to be visible and play that game as much as you can. It's why Questo is as big as he is every super-producer has vocals on their songs.
It looks like the ONLY reason he didn't win the Grammy with Mark for "Best Pop Vocal Album" on Back To Black is because of 1 song difference-making his contribution under 50% (some bullshit)
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17. "RE: Can we talk bout Salaam Remi’s legacy for a minute!?!" In response to Reply # 0
>I stumbled over an article where I read he has 9 Grammy noms. >But 0 wins. I was like this can’t be right. Im sure he won >a Grammy or two for Amy’s Back To Black. > >Looked it up and sure enough he wasn’t even nominated for >his work on the album. But we all know who was…. Mark >Ronson. Mark won record of the year for Rehab. AND producer of >the year for Back to Black. > >My jaw dropped. How the fuck does this happen. Mark and >Salaam split production duties right down the middle across >the 11 cuts on the album. Granted, none of Salaam’s tracks >were singles. > >But the album is not the crowning achievement it’s known to >be if you erase the 5 tracks Salaam did. Shit is wild to me! > >It’s a fucking crime this man was not acknowledged in the >same way Ronson was in 2008.
that's some straight up bullshit. salaam's productions on BTB were my favorite songs on the album. Was never a big fan of Rehab. No shade to Mark Ronson.. he's a talented cat and all, but Salaam Remi is on another level.
He did indeed popularize the hip-hop ragamuffin remix.. not only that.. but he gave R&B artists that classy breakbeat edge.. He gave hip-hop artists that lush, melodic sound.
19. "I studied under him when he was working with Zhigge and Oran Juice Jones" In response to Reply # 0
Even beyond the absurd talent, he is just one of the most likeable and humble cats out there. Maybe to a fault considering the industry but he's eating well and I suspect very happy in life.
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