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13448298, Can we talk bout Salaam Remi’s legacy for a minute!?!|
Posted by sersey, Thu Nov-18-21 07:54 PM
Specifically his lack of accolades. I’ve been rocking with dude since the Super Cat days in the 90s. He basically invented the trend of putting dancehall artists over hip hop beats. But that ain’t what this post is about.
I stumbled over an article where I read he has 9 Grammy noms. But 0 wins. I was like this can’t be right. Im sure he won a Grammy or two for Amy’s Back To Black.
Looked it up and sure enough he wasn’t even nominated for his work on the album. But we all know who was…. Mark Ronson. Mark won record of the year for Rehab. AND producer of the year for Back to Black.
My jaw dropped. How the fuck does this happen. Mark and Salaam split production duties right down the middle across the 11 cuts on the album. Granted, none of Salaam’s tracks were singles.
But the album is not the crowning achievement it’s known to be if you erase the 5 tracks Salaam did. Shit is wild to me!
It’s a fucking crime this man was not acknowledged in the same way Ronson was in 2008.
13448299, Quiet as kept… Salaam also dropped one of 2020s best albums|
Posted by sersey, Thu Nov-18-21 08:07 PM
with “Black On Purpose”
13448336, Saved The Fugees career IMO|
Posted by bentagain, Fri Nov-19-21 09:43 AM
That will always be his legacy to me
The Fugees hit with that Mona Lisa jawn...and quickly followed up with an album...that was straight garbage
I think Lauryn has a solo jawn on the first album...but other than those 2 songs...that album was a miss
...until that Vocab remix hit...
I remember thinking at the time, The Fugees could have fallen through the cracks like so many groups
But that Vocab remix saved them
Interesting point about B2B, hadn't really thought about it that way
The BT jawn was hot...and his album last year
Yeah, he should be celebrated. Salute
13448341, it was actually Nappy Heads that "saved" them|
Posted by atruhead, Fri Nov-19-21 10:46 AM
the hit as we know it is the remix produced by Salaam Remi, it wasnt on the first version of the album
13448344, ? I remember it differently|
Posted by bentagain, Fri Nov-19-21 11:01 AM
That was the lead single...not sure that it was left off the album
100% positive the vocab remix was not on the album...and the album version sucked
Point being, after the nappy heads single dropped...there wasn't anything from that album to follow it up with
the Vocab remix was the 2nd single
w/o it, they could have disappeared like so many acts that didn't capitalize on the success of a single
13448351, I know that tapes and CDs differed at times|
Posted by atruhead, Fri Nov-19-21 11:34 AM
I bought the Blunted On Reality tape and Nappy Heads (the remix that we loved) wasnt on it. The original version has the Big Daddy Kane "Young Gifted & Black" sample https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvnnbc4pw5A
that album was a flop, but they got another chance years later with Fugee-La, then they got bigger and blew up with Ready Or Not/Killing Me Softly
13448426, They re-issued the album with the "Nappy Heads" remix as a bonus track.|
Posted by squeeg, Fri Nov-19-21 04:39 PM
13448361, it was Nappy Heads remix.. I bought the single and was MAD AF|
Posted by legsdiamond, Fri Nov-19-21 12:42 PM
Wyclef screaming and shit.. it was so wack.
13448424, The first single was "Boof Baf."|
Posted by squeeg, Fri Nov-19-21 04:36 PM
The second single was Remi's "Nappy Heads" remix.
The third single was the "Vocab" remix.
gamblers and masturbators.
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13448613, Yup! Fugees were DEAD until Salaam remixed Nappy Heads....|
Posted by My_SP1200_Broken_Again, Tue Nov-23-21 01:59 PM
.....THEN they pulled the album and reissued it with the remix ...Still an absolutely awful LP
13448635, ^^say word. Without Salaam, they were one and done|
Posted by spenzalii, Tue Nov-23-21 09:18 PM
Blunted on Reality was not a good album. If they don't get Nappy Heads remixed, they would have been another hip hop footnote.
Lauren should have given him one of her Grammys as thanks
13448918, Yall made me realized I have never heard another song from Fugees first|
Posted by Buddy_Gilapagos, Mon Nov-29-21 06:06 PM
album other than Vocab and Nappy Heads.
Like we never talk about how that first album was garbage.
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"
13448338, Ill be that person..Ronson's songs were better than Salaams songs|
Posted by tomjohn29, Fri Nov-19-21 09:53 AM
Salaam should get every accolade and be wayyyyy more known
but specifically on Back to Black..Ronson gave the A+ material and Salaam gave the B...shrugs
13448342, Remi worked with Amy on Frank|
Posted by bentagain, Fri Nov-19-21 10:58 AM
Fuck Me Pumps is how I got into Amy
I also believe his portion of B2B was recorded before Ronson
Remi was a major key in her sound...before Ronson entered the picture
Tears Dry on Their Own was a big record
Puts some respect on the man's name.
13448358, specifically countering the back to black stuff said in the post|
Posted by tomjohn29, Fri Nov-19-21 12:13 PM
I was specifically talking about the songs on back to black...not frank
every word we both said was true
you right on Frank
im right on back to black
13448916, RE: Ill be that person..Ronson's songs were better than Salaams songs|
Posted by Original Juice, Mon Nov-29-21 05:40 PM
>Salaam should get every accolade and be wayyyyy more known
>but specifically on Back to Black..Ronson gave the A+ material
>and Salaam gave the B...shrugs
Tears Dry On Their Own: A+
Just Friends: A+
Me & Mr. Jones: A
Some Unholy War: A-
Only thing on BTB that's Ronson-produced that is greater than or equal to all of these would be "Love is a Losing Game": A+.
Posted by Bambino Grande, Sat Nov-20-21 06:37 AM
13448457, RE: Can we talk bout Salaam Remi’s legacy for a minute!?!|
Posted by double 0, Sat Nov-20-21 09:49 AM
The issue is simple, he doesn't talk much. In order to be a "super-producer" you have to be visible and play that game as much as you can. It's why Questo is as big as he is every super-producer has vocals on their songs.
It looks like the ONLY reason he didn't win the Grammy with Mark for "Best Pop Vocal Album" on Back To Black is because of 1 song difference-making his contribution under 50% (some bullshit)
13448643, His work on Mega Barton’s 1,000,000 Megawatts|
Posted by Geah, Wed Nov-24-21 12:26 AM
remains a personal fave
13448914, RE: Can we talk bout Salaam Remi’s legacy for a minute!?!|
Posted by Original Juice, Mon Nov-29-21 05:32 PM
>I stumbled over an article where I read he has 9 Grammy noms.
>But 0 wins. I was like this can’t be right. Im sure he won
>a Grammy or two for Amy’s Back To Black.
>Looked it up and sure enough he wasn’t even nominated for
>his work on the album. But we all know who was…. Mark
>Ronson. Mark won record of the year for Rehab. AND producer of
>the year for Back to Black.
>My jaw dropped. How the fuck does this happen. Mark and
>Salaam split production duties right down the middle across
>the 11 cuts on the album. Granted, none of Salaam’s tracks
>But the album is not the crowning achievement it’s known to
>be if you erase the 5 tracks Salaam did. Shit is wild to me!
>It’s a fucking crime this man was not acknowledged in the
>same way Ronson was in 2008.
that's some straight up bullshit.
salaam's productions on BTB were my favorite songs on the album. Was never a big fan of Rehab. No shade to Mark Ronson.. he's a talented cat and all, but Salaam Remi is on another level.
He did indeed popularize the hip-hop ragamuffin remix.. not only that.. but he gave R&B artists that classy breakbeat edge.. He gave hip-hop artists that lush, melodic sound.
13448917, I studied under him when he was working with Zhigge and Oran Juice Jones|
Posted by imcvspl, Mon Nov-29-21 06:01 PM
Even beyond the absurd talent, he is just one of the most likeable and humble cats out there. Maybe to a fault considering the industry but he's eating well and I suspect very happy in life.
Big PEMFin H & z's
"I ain't no entertainer, and ain't trying to be one. I am 1 thing, a musician." � Miles
"When the music stops he falls back in the abyss."
13450540, RE: I studied under him when he was working with Zhigge and Oran Juice Jones|
Posted by double 0, Thu Dec-23-21 12:03 PM
This sounds like an amazing time.
Zhigge's first video is how I fell in love with Polo
13450564, I met one dude from Zhigge last summer.|
Posted by SP1200, Thu Dec-23-21 11:12 PM
First thing he said is…u look too young to know who we are lmao!
13450658, I'm pretty sure I have that Zhigge album in my tape bag|
Posted by spenzalii, Mon Dec-27-21 10:13 AM
Dope album, but lost in the sauce of 90s albums
13450542, Story time with Wyclef|
Posted by double 0, Thu Dec-23-21 12:09 PM
Clef on Math Hoffa pod
Crazy to think he did to the Fugees what DJ Esco does to Future
13451097, The most cohesive and best overall Streams of Thought thus far|
Posted by Beamer6178, Tue Jan-04-22 06:42 PM
And it wasn't like that right away for me, but over time it's been clear cut.
13451120, aside from the dancehall history|
Posted by SsenepoD, Wed Jan-05-22 10:16 AM
his work with The Fugees, Amy, & Nas are first ballot HOF.
13451156, He even did Here comes the hotsteppa, damn|
Posted by Bambino Grande, Wed Jan-05-22 05:18 PM