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"Do we not have a post about Kaepernick going full Abdul-Rauf? (swipe)"


  

          

props to anyone standing up for what's right, but don't think its gonna get the type of attention/response he's looking for...

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-protest-of-national-anthem

SANTA CLARA, Ca. -- Forty Niners quarterback Colin Kaepernick has willingly and knowingly immersed himself into controversy by refusing to stand for the playing of the national anthem in protest of what he deems are wrongdoings against African Americans and minorities in the United States.

His latest refusal to stand for the anthem -- he has done this in at least one other preseason game -- came before the 49ers preseason loss to Green Bay at Levi's Stadium.

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses Black people and people of color," Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the game against Green Bay. "To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

The 49ers issued this statement: "The national anthem is and always will be a special part of the pre-game ceremony. It is an opportunity to honor our country and reflect on the great liberties we are afforded as its citizens. In respecting such American principles as freedom of religion and freedom of expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose and participate, or not, in our celebration of the national anthem."

By taking a stand for civil rights, Kaepernick, 28, joins other athletes, like the NBA's Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul, LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony and several WNBA players in using their platform and status to raise awareness to issues affecting minorities in the U.S.

However, refusal to support the American flag as a means to take a stand has brought incredible backlash before and likely will in this instance. The NBA's Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf of the Denver Nuggets, formerly Chris Jackson before converting to Islam, refused to acknowledge the flag in protest, citing similar reasons as Kaepernick and saying that it conflicted with some of his Islamic beliefs.

Abdul-Rauf drew the ire of fans and was briefly suspended by the NBA before a compromise was worked out between the league and player, who eventually stood with his teammates and coaches at the playing of the national anthem.

Kaepernick said that he is aware of what he is doing and that he knows it will not sit well with a lot of people, including the 49ers. He said that he did not inform the club or anyone affiliated with the team of his intentions to protest the national anthem.

"This is not something that I am going to run by anybody," he said. "I am not looking for approval. I have to stand up for people that are oppressed. ... If they take football away, my endorsements from me, I know that I stood up for what is right."

Kaepernick said that he has thought about going public with his feelings for a while but that "I felt that I needed to understand the situation better."

He said that he has discussed his feelings with his family and, after months of witnessing some of the civil unrest in the U.S., decided to be more active and involved in rights for black people. Kaepernick, who is biracial, was adopted and raised by white parents and siblings.

Kaepernick's Twitter feed is filled with civil rights Tweets and messages.

The former Super Bowl starting quarterback's decision to go public comes while he is fighting for his football life with the 49ers, who drafted him in the second round in 2011. He lost his starting job last season after being one of the most promising players in the NFL during his run under former coach Jim Harbaugh.

Over the past few months, his relationship with management has turned sour. He requested a trade last spring, which never came to fruition. He also has spent most of the offseason rehabilitating from operations to his left (non-throwing) shoulder, his hand and knee. That left him unable to fully compete with Blaine Gabbert for months and now, just weeks before the regular season starts, has him seemingly in a bind to regain his starting job.

He made his preseason debut against the Packers and played for the second quarter, completing two of six passes for 14 yards. He looked as rusty as you'd expect from someone who has not played since last November.

Following the game and without any knowledge of Kaepernick's non-football behavior, coach Chip Kelly said that there has never been any discussion about cutting Kaepernick.


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Good for him
Aug 27th 2016
1
it's already begun, obviously.
Aug 27th 2016
5
100% agreement.
Aug 28th 2016
34
courageous dude, man.
Aug 27th 2016
2
takes guts
Aug 27th 2016
3
Major respect to him
Aug 27th 2016
4
good shit but like Rauf woulda been better when he was balling
Aug 27th 2016
6
very cool
Aug 27th 2016
7
Good luck Kaep gawd.
Aug 27th 2016
8
Feel for what he's about to go through
Aug 27th 2016
9
I hope he's prepared to not play another down of NFL football
Aug 27th 2016
10
NFL & 49ers shrugged. (link/swipe)
Aug 29th 2016
57
      if he don't win the starting job, he could very well be done.
Aug 29th 2016
60
      San Fran is prolly a good city to be playing in for taking this stance
Aug 29th 2016
62
      'San Fran' doesn't give a shit about the 49ers.
Aug 29th 2016
68
           RE: 'San Fran' doesn't give a shit about
Aug 29th 2016
79
           Lol right. I hate when ppl call it San Fran too
Aug 29th 2016
80
           that wasn't my point at all.
Aug 29th 2016
84
           or anything black anymore. n/m
Aug 30th 2016
162
           so they're basically the football version of Cardinals fans*
Sep 02nd 2016
242
      He's not Cam Newton or Russell Wilson
Aug 29th 2016
66
           we'll see.
Aug 29th 2016
69
#7tormsComing for realll
Aug 27th 2016
11
Been a fan, now I'm a fan for life. Props.
Aug 27th 2016
12
LOL@MSM implying this could have a financial impact on the 9ers
Aug 27th 2016
13
I might have to go buy his jersey
Aug 27th 2016
14
Yup, me too!
Aug 28th 2016
35
patiently waiting for his Dancing With the Stars invite...
Aug 27th 2016
15
whoa. respect. that took balls.
Aug 27th 2016
16
I just want him to complete some passes
Aug 27th 2016
17
Oh WORD?
Aug 27th 2016
18
Respect.
Aug 27th 2016
19
I'm already annoyed by the hot takes and they aren't even here yet
Aug 27th 2016
20
is this the first time a white athlete has boycotted the anthem
Aug 27th 2016
21
Lol
Aug 27th 2016
23
RE: Do we not have a post about Kaepernick going full Abdul-Rauf? (swipe...
Aug 27th 2016
22
Kaepernick and Melo have my full respect
Aug 27th 2016
24
Carmelo out there crying w/ an American flag wrapped around him
Aug 27th 2016
26
      One is demostrating and one is putting his money where
Aug 27th 2016
27
           I somewhat agree but that flag, hand on his heart bullshit bogus as fuck...
Aug 27th 2016
29
           Or maybe Melo just believe in an America that he can help make better
Aug 27th 2016
30
                Right. The dude had usa on his chest...flag is a symbol
Aug 27th 2016
31
                He's had a lot of logos on his chest!
Aug 29th 2016
76
                Melo just wants to Make American Great Again like Trump
Aug 28th 2016
32
                Melo is a refined black-tino who loves his country and the cause
Aug 28th 2016
37
                German Jews who love their country would never salute a Nazi flag
Aug 29th 2016
74
                     Godwin's Law strikes again!! (this time with corny Hotep niggery)
Aug 29th 2016
103
                          Tho entertaining, your use of catch phrases is lightweight shit.
Aug 29th 2016
118
                               Real black men don't bring up "Nazs" or "Hitler" like that
Aug 30th 2016
119
                                    LMAO! The "Real black men" prefix is more lame and cliche than any
Aug 31st 2016
199
                                    If u'd like to make a coherent argument on the merits of what I actually
Sep 02nd 2016
235
                                         You're a strong black man, and I like you, dude.
Sep 02nd 2016
241
                                              Respect.
Sep 02nd 2016
244
                That's like saying he believes he can change white poeple.
Aug 29th 2016
78
                     Um. Kaep is being more friendly with whites than Carmelo is.
Sep 02nd 2016
243
           Melo ALREADY made his money, what does he have to lose?
Aug 28th 2016
33
                You already made your sad that Carmelo a legend.
Aug 28th 2016
38
                Not sure if you've paid attention to Melo's proposal or not
Aug 28th 2016
39
                     Of course he didn't pay attention. He's mad.
Aug 28th 2016
40
                     don't know why y'all feeding that troll man.
Aug 28th 2016
49
Amazing.
Aug 27th 2016
25
Stand up for your beliefs!
Aug 27th 2016
28
Platano in the room? CARMELO GETTING CREDIT.
Aug 28th 2016
36
Let's see how far we've come
Aug 28th 2016
41
Does anyone believe other athletes will follow in his footsteps?
Aug 28th 2016
42
yeah this will change nothing
Aug 28th 2016
43
Check his twitter feed. He fully knows what he was getting into
Aug 28th 2016
47
      Yeah, America suddenly hates Melo, Bron, Jordan, et al FO the fuck H
Aug 28th 2016
48
           RE: not saying we have much progress, but at least a tiny bit.
Aug 28th 2016
50
                You need to wash your Kufi and take a nap.
Aug 29th 2016
52
                     RE: Hush
Aug 29th 2016
55
                          Fam u sound like you ate a chew stick with doo doo on it
Aug 29th 2016
70
                               and you're just a typing head
Aug 29th 2016
71
Who else has done this?
Aug 28th 2016
44
RE: Do we not have a post about Kaepernick going full Abdul-Rauf? (swipe...
Aug 28th 2016
45
+1, Chip Kelly is racist
Aug 28th 2016
46
Chip said the right things here, not mad. (at least so far)
Aug 29th 2016
53
RE: +1, Chip Kelly is racist
Aug 29th 2016
54
Kaep is the LEAST of 49ers worries
Aug 29th 2016
77
Chip isn't racist, he's an uncompromising authoritarian...
Aug 29th 2016
96
      if the 9ers cut Kap = Chip Kelly still a racist
Aug 30th 2016
168
      Chip cosigned Riley Cooper. Birds of a feather flock together
Sep 03rd 2016
247
           Blaine Gabbert to start = Chip Kelly still racist.
Sep 04th 2016
251
thank god social media didn't exist when John Carlos and Tommie Smith
Aug 28th 2016
51
ESPN has made Bomani their go-to "defender of blacks"
Aug 29th 2016
56
Of course Bo made himself that, too
Aug 29th 2016
59
      Who else do they have that could/would do it, though?
Aug 29th 2016
63
      I trust Bo
Sep 01st 2016
203
...what happens if NOTHING happens?
Aug 29th 2016
58
what do you mean he's not risking anything?
Aug 29th 2016
61
cool.
Aug 29th 2016
67
He's an important piece of a growing movement
Aug 31st 2016
198
nothing but respect for this move.
Aug 29th 2016
64
Props to kaep and once again to this board ..
Aug 29th 2016
65
This board has legit been a force for good in my life
Aug 29th 2016
72
RE: This shit is real
Aug 29th 2016
73
Dope.
Aug 29th 2016
82
i spend my days studying racial inequality
Aug 29th 2016
86
yep
Aug 29th 2016
87
don't be fooled, mf's know their role on here, there is the real world.....
Aug 29th 2016
98
      Which posters and which other message boards?
Aug 29th 2016
104
      ^^^^^
Sep 01st 2016
204
      agreed
Sep 08th 2016
266
hearing ppl discuss this at work has made me want to jump off a bridge
Aug 29th 2016
75
my facebook timeline is bad enough
Aug 29th 2016
88
The "what's he mad about, he has white parents" take is one
Aug 29th 2016
89
      that take caught me way off guard
Aug 29th 2016
90
      I see a lot of "He's a millionaire. How is he oppressed?"
Aug 29th 2016
91
      just shows you that people aren't actually listening to what he said...
Aug 29th 2016
92
           pretty much.
Aug 30th 2016
123
      what's funny is every dumbass spouting that doesn't realize
Aug 29th 2016
93
      Exactly
Aug 29th 2016
99
      Right?
Aug 29th 2016
100
To all the veterans and parents of military personnel, family members et...
Aug 29th 2016
81
Ton of respect for Kap, hopefully more ppl follow his lead
Aug 29th 2016
83
Colin Kaepernick & 2 Americas (swipe)
Aug 29th 2016
85
there. it. is.
Aug 29th 2016
95
100% behind dude, tip my cap to him
Aug 29th 2016
94
Rookie Eagles LB Myke Tavarres to sit too (swipe)
Aug 29th 2016
97
nope. his agent and old coachesadvised him not to (swipe)
Aug 29th 2016
105
Drew Brees (ESPN now swipe) via Mike Triplett
Aug 29th 2016
101
breezus pls.
Aug 29th 2016
102
RE: Drew Brees (ESPN now swipe) via Mike Triplett
Aug 29th 2016
106
Lol how was what Kaep did not peaceful
Aug 29th 2016
109
Pyramid scheme trick
Aug 29th 2016
110
America* needs to grow the fuck up
Aug 29th 2016
107
Trump: Maybe he should find a country that works better for him
Aug 29th 2016
108
the lack of self-awareness is almost comical.
Aug 29th 2016
111
smh...so jerry rice just tweeted all lives matter
Aug 29th 2016
112
and suddenly we've remembered his half-bald braids
Aug 29th 2016
113
Well, that's certainly disappointing
Aug 29th 2016
115
Perfect example of a dumb jock
Sep 03rd 2016
248
Four more sports-related jack-offs:
Aug 29th 2016
114
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bOXQibamM
Aug 29th 2016
117
And honestly, I'm tried a lot tired of the "split the difference"
Aug 29th 2016
116
is there a more measured, non-confrontational statement to make
Aug 30th 2016
146
      in the NFL? hmm...gonna go with nope.
Aug 30th 2016
152
Wait!! We comparing Kaep to Ali now!?!??
Aug 30th 2016
120
requires MASSIVE BALLS to do what he's doing right now tho
Aug 30th 2016
121
Requires MASSIVE-ER balls to send black children to college.
Aug 30th 2016
128
      meh. bill + melinda sending plenty colored kids to college.
Aug 30th 2016
131
           Bill + Melinda have legitimately saved tens of thousands of black kids
Aug 30th 2016
136
                they don't ''save'' black kids any more than the NBA/ NFL does
Aug 30th 2016
138
                Are you on Heroin?
Aug 30th 2016
141
                     /end
Aug 31st 2016
187
                     RE: a touching sight, i'm sure. did you ugly-cry again like this?
Aug 31st 2016
194
                RE: Bill + Melinda have legitimately saved tens of thousands of black ki...
Sep 03rd 2016
246
lulz. i chuckled at the hat too.
Aug 30th 2016
122
Colin Kaepernick is Colin Kaepernick
Aug 30th 2016
125
Yeah, Colin is a Freshman at Hillman, changing his name to "Kwame"
Aug 30th 2016
129
Earth is Earth (c) All Stah
Sep 07th 2016
265
"White people" have never had a problem with blacks doing shit in the ho...
Aug 30th 2016
126
Sorry, but you are either high, out of your fucking mind, or a coon.
Aug 30th 2016
127
      RE: Sorry, but you are either high, out of your fucking mind, or a coon....
Aug 30th 2016
135
      Either Kaep does what Melo/Lebron BEEN DOING or he gets fried
Aug 30th 2016
137
      you sound like one of these flag patriots
Aug 30th 2016
140
           You sound like a minor league Hotep
Aug 30th 2016
142
           You sound like an ill informed kid whose parents glossed over your
Sep 03rd 2016
249
since we don't have a time machine (c) ba
Aug 30th 2016
130
He's not Ali but Kap he's stepping out there more than any other athlete...
Aug 30th 2016
139
No, but it's legit to compare this stand to Ali's stand on Vietnam
Aug 30th 2016
173
      Cool, so Kaep is facing prison time?
Aug 30th 2016
178
           No, which is why this isn't on Ali's level...like I said.
Aug 31st 2016
181
Good for Kaepernick
Aug 30th 2016
124
Bomani's piece on Kaep
Aug 30th 2016
132
fire
Aug 30th 2016
133
SI had a great piece from this dude on thecoli too
Aug 30th 2016
134
excellent.
Aug 30th 2016
145
GODDAMN
Aug 30th 2016
157
shit, i almost stood and saluted after reading that FIRE.
Aug 30th 2016
158
Great read...that last paragraph gave me full on chills
Aug 31st 2016
195
greatness
Sep 08th 2016
267
A military veteran weighs in with blue flame (via Facebook)
Aug 30th 2016
143
pretty much
Aug 30th 2016
144
Wow. That was excellent.
Aug 30th 2016
148
powerful. i love this response.
Aug 30th 2016
.
Aug 30th 2016
151
But how is this thoughtful response better than my meme
Aug 30th 2016
155
damn
Aug 30th 2016
160
yall see what Rodney Harrison said about Kaep?
Aug 30th 2016
147
great, another fucking genius.
Aug 30th 2016
150
yeah, his whole statement is really so asinine.
Aug 30th 2016
153
CTE is real.
Aug 30th 2016
154
^^^ having just watched concussion, this is an under rated reply
Aug 30th 2016
169
I wish these rxns could be attributed to a condition
Aug 30th 2016
177
sounds like he understands it more than harrison
Aug 30th 2016
161
hahaha....he's not black???? Then what is he?
Aug 30th 2016
163
And it gets better:
Aug 30th 2016
156
Ohhhh...he didn't know.....makes sense now
Aug 30th 2016
164
So TMZ added their own subtitle?
Aug 30th 2016
165
lol...
Aug 30th 2016
166
lol, twitter is frying this cat.
Aug 30th 2016
174
LMAO! That tweet is HILARIOUS! n/m
Aug 30th 2016
175
Tony Dungy probably called him and checked his ass, lol
Aug 30th 2016
167
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Aug 30th 2016
171
lying, backpedaling, and full of shit.
Sep 01st 2016
200
I see he's learning from Screaming A
Aug 30th 2016
159
If Kap isnt black..why is everyone on the internet calling him a nigga
Aug 31st 2016
182
What a f*cking idiot Harrison is...
Aug 31st 2016
197
Harrison is still looking forward to the day we have a Black President.....
Sep 02nd 2016
245
As someone who frequently goes to events and sits next to a dude
Aug 30th 2016
149
Come to Minnesota?
Aug 30th 2016
170
B(rian) Mitch supports. R*dskins first ever black player does not.
Aug 30th 2016
172
This wasn't going to be free or easy for him and he knew that.
Aug 30th 2016
176
I feel like this has caused more uproar than the ESPYs. It's incredible.
Aug 31st 2016
179
They didn't actually say much at the ESPYs
Aug 31st 2016
180
So were Colin's. And Colin is a bum ass backup.
Aug 31st 2016
183
      Clearly it isn't.
Aug 31st 2016
184
           That's because racists are dumb
Aug 31st 2016
192
oh they shook as hell about #VeteransforKaepernick
Aug 31st 2016
186
my only issue/concern is those defending kaep by making it a freedom
Aug 31st 2016
185
49ers @ chargers about to be most watched presason game ever
Aug 31st 2016
188
And we're mad at *Kap* for "inserting politics into sports"
Aug 31st 2016
189
      NFL has been strong on the propaganda for a while now
Aug 31st 2016
190
Btw both the motivation for AND method of his stance deserve debate IMO
Aug 31st 2016
191
Namless NFL executive compares Kaep to Rae Caruth (LINK)
Aug 31st 2016
193
How is Kaep a traitor?
Aug 31st 2016
196
the white irony is almost satire
Sep 01st 2016
201
smh someone actually fixed their face to say he has nothing to lose.
Sep 01st 2016
202
The NFL is the world's dumbest corporation
Sep 01st 2016
205
yeah of all the fucked up things, that one was most fucked up
Sep 05th 2016
261
Damn they're about to try to Nate Parker Kaep...
Sep 01st 2016
206
that story's two and a half years old.
Sep 01st 2016
207
lulz
Sep 01st 2016
209
ok, my bad
Sep 01st 2016
210
c'mon
Sep 01st 2016
208
Kaep rocks socks featuring a pig in a cop's uniform (LINK)
Sep 01st 2016
211
ugh... amateur-hour activist coming thru.
Sep 01st 2016
212
agreed 100%
Sep 01st 2016
213
agreed.
Sep 01st 2016
225
lmao @ this weak ass deflection. i guess kaep dont have a point
Sep 01st 2016
214
what next, a che T?
Sep 01st 2016
215
It is worth noting that the pic is from Aug. 10.
Sep 01st 2016
216
Deflections aplenty...
Sep 01st 2016
217
ahh, this changes my stance. i thought he followed the BLM with the sock...
Sep 01st 2016
222
okay, that timing makes more sense.
Sep 01st 2016
224
but they clowning folk over in GD for thinking this way
Sep 01st 2016
221
as they should. that way of thinking is horseshit.
Sep 02nd 2016
240
Close....He had that Castro/X shirt lol
Sep 02nd 2016
237
Who cares?
Sep 01st 2016
218
Sadly, lots of people
Sep 01st 2016
219
And he responds via IG:
Sep 01st 2016
220
Not disrespecting The Troops, though
Sep 01st 2016
223
non-issue.
Sep 02nd 2016
239
eric reid joined kaepernick in taking a knee for the anthem
Sep 01st 2016
226
Good for him. Always liked Reid
Sep 01st 2016
227
yeah i thought it was great. jeremy lane did it also tonight in oakland
Sep 01st 2016
228
Uh oh... the Blackness is spreading. Jeremy Lane sat too?
Sep 01st 2016
229
Screamin' A goes in on Cam's post racial neutrality (vid)
Sep 02nd 2016
230
screaming a is one of the best nicknames ever
Sep 02nd 2016
231
RE: Screamin' A goes in on Cam's post racial neutrality (vid)
Sep 02nd 2016
232
Interesting
Sep 02nd 2016
238
http://www.theroot.com/blog/the-grapevine/colin-kaepernick-and-hot-97s-n...
Sep 02nd 2016
233
didn't realize they were out as a couple..ebro stayed teasing her
Sep 02nd 2016
234
Kaep to donate first $1 million of salary to community organizations (LI...
Sep 02nd 2016
236
no post about kap *bye felicia'ing* jason whitlock?
Sep 04th 2016
250
Megan Rapinoe kneels during anthem before game today
Sep 04th 2016
252
yes
Sep 04th 2016
253
right...who will be the first to say she's disrespecting the anthem...
Sep 05th 2016
256
fuckin love it
Sep 04th 2016
254
Yes
Sep 04th 2016
255
The onus is really on the so called "non racist" whites
Sep 05th 2016
257
note to OE: this is what actual influence looks like
Sep 05th 2016
258
this reads awful. Like just terrible. Offputting.
Sep 05th 2016
259
yeah it does. My bad and I apologize
Sep 05th 2016
260
i thought your argument was that these things shouldn't be agenda-ized
Sep 05th 2016
262
Owner of the NWSL's Washington Spirit coming for the crown
Sep 07th 2016
264
      lol @ that tweet.
Sep 08th 2016
268
Who is gonna make the dope Kaep t shirt?
Sep 06th 2016
263
Wonder how many more twitter followers he's gained
Sep 08th 2016
269
well, his jersey sales have skyrocketed off this
Sep 08th 2016
270
      he says he's donating the money from jersey sales
Sep 08th 2016
271
Finally have a reason to root for the Seahawks
Sep 08th 2016
272
wow that is dope
Sep 08th 2016
273
wowsers that's huge.
Sep 08th 2016
274
Are they going to strap Russell Wilson to the ground?
Sep 08th 2016
275
was waiting for this
Sep 08th 2016
277
LOL Supercuts does seem like an All Lives Matter type don't he?
Sep 08th 2016
282
LOLOLOLOLOLOL
Sep 08th 2016
286
*applause*
Sep 08th 2016
276
believe it when you see it.
Sep 08th 2016
278
damn you are right.
Sep 08th 2016
279
We was gonna sit but they fired Don Sterling
Sep 08th 2016
281
let alone glowinski and justin britt
Sep 08th 2016
285
      now, from Doug Baldwin's comments today...
Sep 08th 2016
287
Props to any and all that go through with it.
Sep 08th 2016
280
FUCKING AWESOME!!!!!
Sep 09th 2016
291
non-violent non-protest...They made Trump supporters proud...
Sep 12th 2016
295
      ^^^^^^
Sep 12th 2016
296
Meanwhile, in America's Shittiest "Big League" town . . .
Sep 08th 2016
283
amazing image makeover for the Kaepernick brand
Sep 08th 2016
284
broncos b.marshall joins in, jets b.marshall takes the brunt-
Sep 08th 2016
288
RE: broncos b.marshall joins in, jets b.marshall takes the brunt-
Sep 08th 2016
289
jed york, yes, jed york... pledges to match kap's $1MM
Sep 08th 2016
290
well shit, I'll clap to this all day every day
Sep 12th 2016
292
RE: well shit, I'll clap to this all day every day
Sep 22nd 2016
299
confirmed: we're in the upside down.
Sep 12th 2016
293
      i blame the Hadron
Sep 12th 2016
294
just happy some pats raised fists
Sep 12th 2016
297
time magazine cover-
Sep 22nd 2016
298
This is Major!
Sep 22nd 2016
304
Richard Sherman speaks out against shootings, backs Kaep
Sep 22nd 2016
300
Oh, and props to Jerry Rice for coming around too.
Sep 22nd 2016
301
      had to clap to this
Sep 22nd 2016
303
Sports, Protest & Art (swipe)
Sep 22nd 2016
302
entire Indiana Fever team kneels during national anthem (link)
Sep 22nd 2016
305
kap: on second thought, US dollars >>>>>>> hillman college
Mar 02nd 2017
306
Oh.
Mar 02nd 2017
307
hard to kneel if you're not in the stadium
Mar 02nd 2017
308
That's a corny way to frame it bro. Protests don't last forever.
Mar 06th 2017
309
having a job > not having a job.
Mar 06th 2017
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Amritsar
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1. "Good for him"
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I've been as critical of his play as any Niner fan here


but I fuckin love him for this.


Now watch him get dragged through the mud while Brady gets a pat on the back for his Trump endorsement

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5. "it's already begun, obviously."
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34. "100% agreement."
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2. "courageous dude, man. "
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____________________________________________________


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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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3. "takes guts"
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...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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4. "Major respect to him"
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6. "good shit but like Rauf woulda been better when he was balling"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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7. "very cool"
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>props to anyone standing up for what's right, but don't think
>its gonna get the type of attention/response he's looking
>for...
>
>http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap3000000691077/article/colin-kaepernick-explains-protest-of-national-anthem
>
>SANTA CLARA, Ca. -- Forty Niners quarterback Colin Kaepernick
>has willingly and knowingly immersed himself into controversy
>by refusing to stand for the playing of the national anthem in
>protest of what he deems are wrongdoings against African
>Americans and minorities in the United States.
>
>His latest refusal to stand for the anthem -- he has done this
>in at least one other preseason game -- came before the 49ers
>preseason loss to Green Bay at Levi's Stadium.
>
>"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a
>country that oppresses Black people and people of color,"
>Kaepernick told NFL Media in an exclusive interview after the
>game against Green Bay. "To me, this is bigger than football
>and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way.
>There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave
>and getting away with murder."
>
>The 49ers issued this statement: "The national anthem is and
>always will be a special part of the pre-game ceremony. It is
>an opportunity to honor our country and reflect on the great
>liberties we are afforded as its citizens. In respecting such
>American principles as freedom of religion and freedom of
>expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose
>and participate, or not, in our celebration of the national
>anthem."
>
>By taking a stand for civil rights, Kaepernick, 28, joins
>other athletes, like the NBA's Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul, LeBron
>James and Carmelo Anthony and several WNBA players in using
>their platform and status to raise awareness to issues
>affecting minorities in the U.S.
>
>However, refusal to support the American flag as a means to
>take a stand has brought incredible backlash before and likely
>will in this instance. The NBA's Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf of the
>Denver Nuggets, formerly Chris Jackson before converting to
>Islam, refused to acknowledge the flag in protest, citing
>similar reasons as Kaepernick and saying that it conflicted
>with some of his Islamic beliefs.
>
>Abdul-Rauf drew the ire of fans and was briefly suspended by
>the NBA before a compromise was worked out between the league
>and player, who eventually stood with his teammates and
>coaches at the playing of the national anthem.
>
>Kaepernick said that he is aware of what he is doing and that
>he knows it will not sit well with a lot of people, including
>the 49ers. He said that he did not inform the club or anyone
>affiliated with the team of his intentions to protest the
>national anthem.
>
>"This is not something that I am going to run by anybody," he
>said. "I am not looking for approval. I have to stand up for
>people that are oppressed. ... If they take football away, my
>endorsements from me, I know that I stood up for what is
>right."
>
>Kaepernick said that he has thought about going public with
>his feelings for a while but that "I felt that I needed to
>understand the situation better."
>
>He said that he has discussed his feelings with his family
>and, after months of witnessing some of the civil unrest in
>the U.S., decided to be more active and involved in rights for
>black people. Kaepernick, who is biracial, was adopted and
>raised by white parents and siblings.
>
>Kaepernick's Twitter feed is filled with civil rights Tweets
>and messages.
>
>The former Super Bowl starting quarterback's decision to go
>public comes while he is fighting for his football life with
>the 49ers, who drafted him in the second round in 2011. He
>lost his starting job last season after being one of the most
>promising players in the NFL during his run under former coach
>Jim Harbaugh.
>
>Over the past few months, his relationship with management has
>turned sour. He requested a trade last spring, which never
>came to fruition. He also has spent most of the offseason
>rehabilitating from operations to his left (non-throwing)
>shoulder, his hand and knee. That left him unable to fully
>compete with Blaine Gabbert for months and now, just weeks
>before the regular season starts, has him seemingly in a bind
>to regain his starting job.
>
>He made his preseason debut against the Packers and played for
>the second quarter, completing two of six passes for 14 yards.
>He looked as rusty as you'd expect from someone who has not
>played since last November.
>
>Following the game and without any knowledge of Kaepernick's
>non-football behavior, coach Chip Kelly said that there has
>never been any discussion about cutting Kaepernick.
>
>
>-----------
>you think we playing chess, but i'm playing mad-making.
>Basaglia

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the brown figures on the walls of my apart-a-ment...

  

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8. "Good luck Kaep gawd. "
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Media bout to plant themselves firmly up his ass. I hope he's ready

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9. "Feel for what he's about to go through"
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Remember when Bomani Jones suggested the anthem at sporting events was an inherently political thing? Now magnify that by 100,000 and you're still not close to the level of Takes people will have on Kaep.

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10. "I hope he's prepared to not play another down of NFL football"
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The NBA might tolerate this to some degree, but not the NFL.

Props to him for actually taking a stand for what he believes in

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57. "NFL & 49ers shrugged. (link/swipe)"
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http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/8/27/12672566/nfl-statement-colin-kaepernick-national-anthem

It has been 12 hours since the story dropped that Colin Kaepernick did not stand during the National Anthem. The NFL has now issued a statement on the matter, keeping things pretty simple.

"Players are encouraged but not required to stand during the playing of the National Anthem."

The 49ers issued a statement to Pro Football Talk when the story first broke, and they too recognized his right to express himself:

The national anthem is and always will be a special part of the pre-game ceremony. It is an opportunity to honor our country and reflect on the great liberties we are afforded as its citizens. In respecting such American principles as freedom of religion and freedom of expression, we recognize the right of an individual to choose to participate, or not, in our celebration of the national anthe

fuck you.

  

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60. "if he don't win the starting job, he could very well be done."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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62. "San Fran is prolly a good city to be playing in for taking this stance"
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*Jews you*

"this is okp tho, reading is completely optional" (c) desus

Proceed with caution. I am overtly racist.

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68. "'San Fran' doesn't give a shit about the 49ers."
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the team plays in Santa Clara, about 30 miles south of SF near San Jose. most of the fans come from the suburbs - the very right-leaning suburbs.

fuck you.

  

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79. "RE: 'San Fran' doesn't give a shit about "
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people of color period

  

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80. "Lol right. I hate when ppl call it San Fran too"
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Would almost prefer "Frisco"

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84. "that wasn't my point at all."
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fuck you.

  

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162. "or anything black anymore. n/m"
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242. "so they're basically the football version of Cardinals fans*"
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* - who don't remember Vince "The God" Coleman and Ozzie Smith

  

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66. "He's not Cam Newton or Russell Wilson"
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i.e. he's not a top caliber QB. He's fighting for a starting position in SF.

If he has to go to another team as a free agent, this will be a "character issue" that will cause teams to pass on him. He doesn't have the talent to overcome that in my opinion.

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69. "we'll see."
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fuck you.

  

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11. "#7tormsComing for realll"
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i respect this move tho

not sure why the national anthem is even played before domestic sporting events in the first place

  

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12. "Been a fan, now I'm a fan for life. Props."
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13. "LOL@MSM implying this could have a financial impact on the 9ers"
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LOL and FOH

hopefully the dumbest thing I hear today is...'should they cut him before the fanbase turns'

this is football

those racists sat front row last year in CAR and cheered the loudest

this is football, only Donald Trump could lose money in professional football

leave it to the US media to spin, deflect and focus on anything other than the issue that Kap is trying to address

I NEED EVERYBODY TO SEE THIS

this story will take every angle, other than the oppression of minorities in the US

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you can't understand it with an explanation

  

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14. "I might have to go buy his jersey"
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35. "Yup, me too!"
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How about a Kap jersey with the #BLM?

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15. "patiently waiting for his Dancing With the Stars invite..."
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16. "whoa. respect. that took balls."
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17. "I just want him to complete some passes"
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Make some reads, handle the blitz, make some plays.

He has the right to sit or stand during the national this is America after all. He has the right to voice his opinion too.

.
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18. "Oh WORD?"
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that's wtf is up!!

hope he got most of his bread already.

prolly started gettin that niggga treatment in all walks of life, soon as his game started slippin.

can't wait to read the article when i get back to the crib.

  

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19. "Respect. "
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20. "I'm already annoyed by the hot takes and they aren't even here yet"
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https://www.instagram.com/sbmission365/

In a generation of swine, the one-eyed pig is king.
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21. "is this the first time a white athlete has boycotted the anthem "
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for civil rights?

  

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23. "Lol"
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22. "RE: Do we not have a post about Kaepernick going full Abdul-Rauf? (swipe..."
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Good for him if that's how he feels but I also don't really care what Kaepernick does or doesn't do regarding the national anthem.

I'm from the lost black tribe of Israel, the Yos

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24. "Kaepernick and Melo have my full respect"
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"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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26. "Carmelo out there crying w/ an American flag wrapped around him"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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27. "One is demostrating and one is putting his money where"
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his mouth is and demanding his peers do the same. Different approaches and I respect both because they publicly took a stand.

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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29. "I somewhat agree but that flag, hand on his heart bullshit bogus as fuck..."
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he sending a horrible non verbal message to the kids. confusin the shit out a mufucka.

  

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30. "Or maybe Melo just believe in an America that he can help make better "
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Loving your country and standing up to injustice are not mutually exclusive.

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31. "Right. The dude had usa on his chest...flag is a symbol"
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OF the same thing.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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76. "He's had a lot of logos on his chest!"
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doesn't mean he has to pledge allegiance to any of that shit.

he wears the required uniform! (c)Andrew Clark



bad answer.

  

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32. "Melo just wants to Make American Great Again like Trump"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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37. "Melo is a refined black-tino who loves his country and the cause"
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Nothing wrong with two men of color expressing
themselves differently

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74. "German Jews who love their country would never salute a Nazi flag"
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if they still flew it... and no self-respecting black man should ever salute that bullshit american flag... unless they' on some 'Spook Who Sat by the Door' shit, but Melo has already made his activist/pro-black/brown/humanist agenda public.

  

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103. "Godwin's Law strikes again!! (this time with corny Hotep niggery)"
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>if they still flew it... and no self-respecting black man
>should ever salute that bullshit american flag... unless they'
>on some 'Spook Who Sat by the Door' shit, but Melo has already
>made his activist/pro-black/brown/humanist agenda public.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

Nigga, sit your Amen-Ra ass down

Self respecting black men do ACTUAL things, not corny
symbolic things

Carmelo has done shit for ACTUAL blacks and latinos.

Kaep? LOL. He's done shit for himself...and mind you, I'm ALL
WITH KAEP doing what he must. But to compare him to a true
leader like Carmelo!?!? BWAHAHAHAH. Cornball

  

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118. "Tho entertaining, your use of catch phrases is lightweight shit."
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Tue Aug-30-16 12:05 AM by thebadnegro

          

instead of pointing out any flaw in the logic, u go with some pseudo-intellectual catch phrase (no, "sooner or later, *some*one will compare *some*one or *some* thing to Hitler" is some vague, immeasurable, unscientific, illogical bullshit, homie.


if u don't see the parallels between the holocaust and the terror our very recent ancestors suffered here then i'm not gonna try to convince u.

stay patriotic my nigga. salute that flag that we were legally hung, raped, castrated and robbed under. be a respectable negroe and pay homage.

  

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119. "Real black men don't bring up "Nazs" or "Hitler" like that"
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I'm just stating the facts, brotha.

That Godwin's Law shit is powerful: people use Hitler and
the Nazis as a crutch when they can't argue

>if u don't see the parallels between the holocaust and the
>terror our very recent ancestors suffered here then i'm not
>gonna try to convince u.

Those are the facts. Grown ass black men know how to
discuss shit on their own terms. We don't have to resort
to corny college dorm hyperbole.

You wanna argue some shit, argue it.

>stay patriotic my nigga. salute that flag that we were legally
>hung, raped, castrated and robbed under. be a respectable
>negroe and pay homage.

Nah, like Carmelo, I'll help actual blacks and latinos do
actual things in this world. Lebron and Carmelo sending black
kids to school. He's building youth centers, giving kids
alternatives, helping them live in a complex world.

Y'all corny niggas are paper champions with your 'symbolic
gestures' and 'stands'. You only help yourselves, and
perpetuate this dumb ass myth from the 1970s that symbolism
is everything.

Do. Something. For. Black. People.

Take a gun out of a hand.

Put some food in a mouth.

A book in a hand.

Keep in mind: I SUPPORT KAEP. Proud of him. But he's
straight training wheels activist at this point. He just
started reading.

He gotta DO SHIT IN THE HOOD now. If he don't follow it up
by DOING SHIT IN THE HOOD, I'm off him, and he's a corn ball.




  

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199. "LMAO! The "Real black men" prefix is more lame and cliche than any "
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Hitler comparison and whatever anti-intellectual, bullshit sociological term that u attempted to attach to it.

and for you to be the one to qualify what real black men do lol... YOU dog? the nigga who's constantly caught making assclown assertions, only to be caught later contradicting himself when posters bring back up old OKS links of u professing the exact opposite? *blank stare*

so yeah, i couldn't even read past the lil cliche. can't respect that shit even a lil bit, holmes.

can only imagine the rest of that ass juice u keyed in below that subject line lolol. maybe later son.

  

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235. "If u'd like to make a coherent argument on the merits of what I actually"
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Fri Sep-02-16 10:27 AM by thebadnegro

          

said, and why the parallels that i pointed out are not legit, then i'll listen with an open mind.. but to plea cop- really cop out- by using the pseudo-intellectual cracka catch phrase of the day.. and following it up with "Real Black men..." is laughable AT BEST.


>I'm just stating the facts, brotha.

LOL broad brush stroking catch phrases are NOT facts lil homie.

>That Godwin's Law shit is powerful: people use Hitler and
>the Nazis as a crutch when they can't argue

LOLOLOLOL


>You wanna argue some shit, argue it.

i did, with these *facts* u reposted below. lemme know when u wanna argue the validity of what i stated right here in these next lines:

>>stay patriotic my nigga. salute that flag that we were
>legally
>>hung, raped, castrated and robbed under. be a respectable
>>negroe and pay homage.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
there it is, in all it's simplicity and correlation with the (much shorter lived) suffering and dehumanizing of the German Jews.


>Nah, like Carmelo, I'll help actual blacks and latinos do
>actual things in this world. Lebron and Carmelo sending black
>
>kids to school. He's building youth centers, giving kids
>alternatives, helping them live in a complex world.

YOUTH CENTERS? NIGGA GROW THE FUCK UP! u know how many decades black celebs been going back to the hood building youth centers??? continuing to do the things that have failed us for the last 50 years is just flat out retarded. we need to BUILD AN ECONOMY- and the money is there to do it. we got mo niggas with college degrees than ever and we still DON'T PRODUCE ANYTHING!, you nincom-fuckin-poop. instead of dropping $50 million to send kids to college, only to graduate and have to beg yt for jobs is the typa shit that keeps them patting us on the head and laughing at us behind closed doors. that $50 mil could be put directly in the hood by buying up gas stations, corner stores, grocery stores, liquor stores, beauty supply stores, etc. that would create jobs for black people and teach them how to operate BUSINESSES. If Melo, Bron, CP3, KD, Boogie got together and recruited other black athletes, celebs, and business leaders to pool their resources, we could actually take over the black hair-care industry (among other things), build factories, start trucking companies, and literally BUILD A BLACK ECONOMY.

it's not rocket science, and if u actually studied renown black economists like Dr. Claude Anderson and his 'Powernomics' strategies instead of pseudo-intellectual crackas who make catch phrases about Hitler references, then maybe u could get some of them chains out your head.

don't get me wrong, I LOVE AND RESPECT THESE BROTHAS and i know they have good intentions. hopefully the right people will cross their paths and elevate their thinking.
and guess what? i love you too OE, and think your heart is in the right place. i just expected a little more advanced thinking from the guy whose always trying to flex his intellectual muscles around OKP.



>Y'all corny niggas are paper champions with your 'symbolic
>gestures' and 'stands'. You only help yourselves, and
>perpetuate this dumb ass myth from the 1970s that symbolism
>is everything.
>Do. Something. For. Black. People.

the sign, or symbolic gesture, IS ONLY A SIGN. you don't stop at the sign lil homie, it's only there to give you a sense of DIRECTION. creating more degreed negroes to continue the cycle of getting out of school and having to beg white people for jobs IS NOT PROGRESS.



>Keep in mind: I SUPPORT KAEP. Proud of him. But he's
>straight training wheels activist at this point. He just
>started reading.
>
>He gotta DO SHIT IN THE HOOD now. If he don't follow it up
>by DOING SHIT IN THE HOOD, I'm off him, and he's a corn ball.

YOU'RE STATING THE OBVIOUS HOMIE. unfortunately, that has nothing to do with my point.

  

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241. "You're a strong black man, and I like you, dude. "
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But Kaep is up there kissing more troop ass now than
Carmelo ever did, having to backtrack and damage
control

Carmelo been thorough from jump

Carmelo on some grown shit

Kaep on some just read Isis Papers shit

Not mad at Kaep, btw

But he not grown

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244. "Respect."
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Fri Sep-02-16 02:26 PM by thebadnegro

          

Kaep is definitely a newbie. he's learning on the fly and i'm glad he's decided to get on that path.

not tryin to make this into Kaep vs Melo. i'm just a lil disappointed in da god for embracing all that American flag, hand on his heart for the National Anthem, patriotic bullshit. like i said, i think it sets a bad example, especially coming from a respected activist like Melo. still i'm proud of the brotha for what he's trying to do.


>Kaep on some just read Isis Papers shit

lmao!! can't even front, u be havin me fucked up with the jokes bruh. had to lmao when u told me to sit my Amen-Ra ass down lol.

i spit my fuckin drink out when u told the homie kinetic to wash his kufi and take a nap lolololol! a near tears experience no doubt.



  

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78. "That's like saying he believes he can change white poeple. "
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the white power structure in particular.

if we haven't learned by 2016, WITH a "black" man sitting in the White House..... then he's just trying to ameliorate the plantation.
integration is the worse thing that happened to Black Americans in the last half century.

you can take it or leave it, but even Dr. MLK knew it.. yt just buried that part of his history- particularly the speeches from his last year before his assassination.

  

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243. "Um. Kaep is being more friendly with whites than Carmelo is. "
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>the white power structure in particular.
>
>if we haven't learned by 2016, WITH a "black" man sitting in
>the White House..... then he's just trying to ameliorate the
>plantation.
>integration is the worse thing that happened to Black
>Americans in the last half century.
>
>you can take it or leave it, but even Dr. MLK knew it.. yt
>just buried that part of his history- particularly the
>speeches from his last year before his assassination.
>
>


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33. "Melo ALREADY made his money, what does he have to lose?"
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>his mouth is and demanding his peers do the same. Different
>approaches and I respect both because they publicly took a
>stand.

If anything Melo is hedging b/c he isn't going to be remembered as a legend for his NBA career.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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38. "You already made your sad that Carmelo a legend. "
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Hi Saddy Rich

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39. "Not sure if you've paid attention to Melo's proposal or not"
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But he is asking star's, guys with large contracts and huge endorsement deals to contribute their own money. In addition, Melo proposed that the star athlete make the corporation that is having their product endorsed to match the athletes contribution.

Kaep is demonstrating on a personal level. Change is needed at every level. From Block captain all the way to the presidency. From small business to a Dow 30 public company. It all matters and those that take a stand at every level have my respect.

"hey, make this right mayne
stop at the light mayne,
my yester night thang got me hung off the night train "

  

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40. "Of course he didn't pay attention. He's mad. "
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>But he is asking star's, guys with large contracts and huge
>endorsement deals to contribute their own money. In addition,
>Melo proposed that the star athlete make the corporation that
>is having their product endorsed to match the athletes
>contribution.
>
>Kaep is demonstrating on a personal level. Change is needed at
>every level. From Block captain all the way to the presidency.
>From small business to a Dow 30 public company. It all matters
>and those that take a stand at every level have my respect.


Correct, but don't reply to that dude.

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49. "don't know why y'all feeding that troll man. "
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http://soundcloud.com/djshinobishaw
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http://twitter.com/DJShinobiShaw
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25. "Amazing."
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Amazing especially given how rocky last season was for him and this is just going to make things potentially more stressful for him depending on if both the NFL and the 49ers front office give him grief over this.

Major props and respect for sticking to his convictions.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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28. "Stand up for your beliefs! "
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36. "Platano in the room? CARMELO GETTING CREDIT. "
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IT COUNT.

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41. "Let's see how far we've come"
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----
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42. "Does anyone believe other athletes will follow in his footsteps?"
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Let me be clear, I do think it takes courage to do what he did. I hope he's prepared for the response he will get. Unfortunately, he may have put his safety in jeopardy (knowing all the crazy right wing nut jobs out there).

There are plenty of pro athletes who have spoken out against police brutality/racism in the USA, but few to my knowledge who have actually went as far to protest the national anthem. Call me a cynic, but I don't think what he did makes him any more for the cause than other athletes who choose not to protest the national anthem. He will get tons of attention for the being the face of protest among pro athletes. So if his objective was to bring attention to his cause, then I applaud him for his efforts bc he definitely succeeded. Unfortunately, we all know the conversation will focus elsewhere though.

But uh...does anyone believe this will go anywhere besides the typical divisive racial conversation we as a nation have like every other month?

  

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43. "yeah this will change nothing"
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look at the reaction so far, people on both sides are just using this as a vehicle for their own opinions. the people opposing him are not thinking critically about his stance or the issues it pertains to, they are just spouting slogans and talking about respect for veterans and other bullshit. the people who stand with him aren't looking very critically at this either, they just can't wait to get up and applaud.

there was a pretty interesting article about the rauf incident in an academic journal that showed a similar phenomenon that was even more complicated. that was like 20 years ago and little changed, less as a result of it.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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47. "Check his twitter feed. He fully knows what he was getting into"
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https://twitter.com/kaepernick7

He retweeted this a week and a half ago:
https://twitter.com/LeftSentThis/status/766394702442541056

--
"You can't beat white people. You can only knock them out."

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48. "Yeah, America suddenly hates Melo, Bron, Jordan, et al FO the fuck H"
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That is some hyperbolic shit that was true decades ago. I am not saying we have much progress, but at least a tiny bit.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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50. "RE: not saying we have much progress, but at least a tiny bit."
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who are you to determine?

do you consider yourself a victim of the oppression (YT supremacy) that we (ppl of color) need to progress from?

if not, then your opinion is not atall tenable. welcome? sure, speak your piece. but, you shouldn't. atleast not to anyone non-yt. not like this.

if so, then you should look closer, because you're missing the point.

if i'm mistaken, mi malo, but i thought you were yt.

which makes your opinion of our progression virtually null & void. you could do better work among your own.

agn, if i'm mistaken, mi malo.

_____________
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52. "You need to wash your Kufi and take a nap. "
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>who are you to determine?
>
>do you consider yourself a victim of the oppression (YT
>supremacy) that we (ppl of color) need to progress from?
>
>if not, then your opinion is not atall tenable. welcome? sure,
>speak your piece. but, you shouldn't. atleast not to anyone
>non-yt. not like this.
>
>if so, then you should look closer, because you're missing the
>point.
>
>if i'm mistaken, mi malo, but i thought you were yt.
>
>which makes your opinion of our progression virtually null &
>void. you could do better work among your own.
>
>agn, if i'm mistaken, mi malo.


What is this gibberish?

Hush.



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55. "RE: Hush"
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you won't make me.

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70. "Fam u sound like you ate a chew stick with doo doo on it"
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I'm serious


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71. "and you're just a typing head"
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i'm serious too.

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44. "Who else has done this?"
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Pretty sure Ricky Williams did it. Steve Nash. Carlos Delgado.

  

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45. "RE: Do we not have a post about Kaepernick going full Abdul-Rauf? (swipe..."
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If Cowboys can't win the Superbowl I hope he starts for SF and wins.

In the SF scenario, when he takes his shoulder pads off for post game field celebration, I hope he is wearing beads. If SF, please God

Knicks yo
Cowboys yo

  

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46. "+1, Chip Kelly is racist "
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Haven't heard Chip's previous race issue brought up

or any critique of him in this scenario...?

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53. "Chip said the right things here, not mad. (at least so far)"
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>Haven't heard Chip's previous race issue brought up
>
>or any critique of him in this scenario...?


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54. "RE: +1, Chip Kelly is racist "
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Meanwhile bet Elway is rejoicing he didn't get the deal done

  

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77. "Kaep is the LEAST of 49ers worries"
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with Chip at the helm

  

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96. "Chip isn't racist, he's an uncompromising authoritarian..."
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that said the interesting thing here is that he's been very much a "support our troops" guy (he instituted the "for the troops" theme for Oregon's spring game, and established programs linking up Oregon players with active servicemen/women) and to whatever extent the National Anthem can be seen as a sign of respect for military sacrifice, I'm sure this is sticking in his craw.

  

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168. "if the 9ers cut Kap = Chip Kelly still a racist"
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if they keep him, Chip Kelly hates our troops

either way, it's a quandary for Chip, and it couldn't have happened to a nicer guy

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247. "Chip cosigned Riley Cooper. Birds of a feather flock together"
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He's that North Eastern racist but he still racist. Had the whitest team in the league and basically no black people on his coaching staff with any power.

You just havent paid attention because he wasn't coaching your team. Fuck him.

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251. "Blaine Gabbert to start = Chip Kelly still racist."
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there were rumors, not too loud, but the idea of the Iggles making a move to bring Kap here was floating

he is assumed to be a proto-type QB for Chip's system

Chip ships out to SF and benches Kap = racist.

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51. "thank god social media didn't exist when John Carlos and Tommie Smith"
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was raising black fist at the olympics.

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56. "ESPN has made Bomani their go-to "defender of blacks""
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On every show today talking Kaep. Not sure how I feel about it.

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59. "Of course Bo made himself that, too"
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He's so sharp that I'm sure he gets the deal. And it's not like Bo hasn't pushed the company through his consistent excellence to get the position he's in and to do it the way he wants.

I guess I'm just worried. This is my dude, and the ground he's walking is so fraught with peril. Feels like three bad seconds would be all it took to get him axed.

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63. "Who else do they have that could/would do it, though?"
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203. "I trust Bo"
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He understands the complexity and nuance of it all. I think he does a great job of breaking it down too.

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58. "...what happens if NOTHING happens?"
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so far the league and the team are like "and?"

what if Colin doesn't stand up for the Anthem and the world keeps turning?

i'm glad he's using his platform to bring attention to issues he feels need attention. so far it doesn't seem like he's risking very much to do so. but we'll see. i dunno that i need him to risk anything.

fuck you.

  

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61. "what do you mean he's not risking anything?"
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he's about to lose the starting job to blaine gabbert for football reasons...if a team wanted to take a chance on him to bring him to either compete for a starting job or as a backup, its extremely unlikely they will now.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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67. "cool."
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fuck you.

  

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198. "He's an important piece of a growing movement"
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...sure, alone, he accomplishes very little. That's
not the point, though

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64. "nothing but respect for this move."
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*skatin' the rings of saturn*


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65. "Props to kaep and once again to this board .."
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One of the few places on the internet where hardcore sports fans support Kaep-- not even just majority but basically unanimously (aside from some trolling).

This is why I love and miss this place overall - and hope we can keep it alive.

At one point, Some of the best nuances discussions on sports in the universe.

Not every convo had to explicitly discuss race and social justice but you knew that for the most part their was a strong assumed root in those things that made this board unique as far as sports boards go.

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72. "This board has legit been a force for good in my life"
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The race/culture discussions were a revelation to college-aged me and helped me think about things differently. Honestly, even some of the obvious trolling posts Basaglia or someone else would make ten years ago still had a point to them. This shit is real and it's insidious and it's all over sports in ways that a lot of white people don't see.

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73. "RE: This shit is real"
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>and it's insidious and it's all over
>sports in ways that a lot of white people don't see.

exactly.

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82. "Dope."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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86. "i spend my days studying racial inequality"
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and this place still dropped knowledge and ways of seeing things i wouldn't have considered fully or challenged me to be smarter in my views even when I didn't change my stance.

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87. "yep"
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one of the things that make the board great is it has a diverse membership. So it isnt just a "white sports board" or a "black sports board".

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98. "don't be fooled, mf's know their role on here, there is the real world....."
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then there's OKP. Some of the "cool" white folks on here are calling Kaepernick all types of "ungrateful niggers" on other message boards, lol

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104. "Which posters and which other message boards?"
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204. "^^^^^"
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266. "agreed"
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>then there's OKP. Some of the "cool" white folks on here are
>calling Kaepernick all types of "ungrateful niggers" on other
>message boards, lol

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75. "hearing ppl discuss this at work has made me want to jump off a bridge"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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88. "my facebook timeline is bad enough"
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couldnt stomach these discussions in person

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89. "The "what's he mad about, he has white parents" take is one"
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I honestly didn't see coming.

THAT's why he shouldn't protest? Like, if he had two black parents, these people would be ok with it?

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90. "that take caught me way off guard"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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91. "I see a lot of "He's a millionaire. How is he oppressed?""
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Even though he made it a point to say it's not about him

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92. "just shows you that people aren't actually listening to what he said..."
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or even trying to understand where he's coming from. One of his former teammates, some OL who no plays for the Vikings was being interviewed yesterday talking about how Kaep is disrespecting the troops and that if he had been on the team and knew about it, there would have been a problem on the sidelines. Dude clearly said he had a great deal of respect for the men and women who serve and have served.

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123. "pretty much. "
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93. "what's funny is every dumbass spouting that doesn't realize"
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they're basically admitting white privilege exists.

the same dumbasses who in a separate conversation will say it doesn't.

really showin' they ass.

  

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99. "Exactly"
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100. "Right?"
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>Like, if he had two black parents, these people would be ok with it?

  

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81. "To all the veterans and parents of military personnel, family members et..."
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you have a very strange and limited version of freedom

your service is appreciated

but it doesn't give you license to make demands of 'free' citizens

Kap made his greviance known

and it's not with you

instead of attacking him based on a perception of disrespecting you and the freedom that you fought for

why not fight against those who abuse their power and infringe upon our freedoms that you fought for?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_for_the_Thought_That_We_Hate

an interesting book that gave me a new perspective on freedom of speech, etc...

freedom is not just what you agree with

but it also may be views and beliefs that you disagree with

^ that is what you served for.

way too much energy being directed at Kap and not enough toward the issue he is trying to draw attention to

when does the conversation turn to that?

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83. "Ton of respect for Kap, hopefully more ppl follow his lead"
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85. "Colin Kaepernick & 2 Americas (swipe)"
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http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2016/08/29/baffoe-colin-kaepernick-2-americas/

Colin Kaepernick & 2 Americas
August 29, 2016 10:01 AM
By Tim Baffoe

(CBS) “O say does that star spangled banner yet wave

O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?”

One of the sadder ironies of Americana is how fervently so many citizens of this country defend its symbols without ever really considering what exactly those symbols entail.

Take “The Star-Spangled Banner.” The song actually stinks — its tune is bad even for antiquated pieces, and it’s infamously difficult to perform. Most who revere it don’t know what the hell a rampart is or know that we only play one verse of what is a four-stanza poem. We don’t pay attention to the words and instead just drone them from rote because authority figures told us to as kids. It’s not unlike the McCarthian requirements of school-children saying the Pledge of Allegiance (written by a socialist minister, originally recited at the installment of a holiday for a genocidist and for decades sans “under God” until religious Americans found the jingoistic practice to be too Soviet).

And how often do any of us hear our national anthem played anywhere but prior to a sporting event? What does that say about the hollowness of our patriotism and what we really value most? What tangible thing would be lost if we got rid of it before games (and the worse use of “God Bless America” in the middle of baseball games)?


"Due to popular demand, we will forgo our national anthem." #MayweatherPacquaio http://t.co/obigLuWlve

(@SimpsonsQOTD) May 03, 2015

Notice, too, those last lines of the verse proper are a question, but we sing it as a declaration. If the latter is true, our national anthem is a lie.

San Francisco 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick proves that. After choosing to not stand for the anthem in three straight preseason games in social protest, he told NFL.com: “I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder.”

Kaepernick spoke further on Sunday:


Kaepernick said he will sit for the anthem until things change. Asked specifically what would be a success, he said it's hard to say.

Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) August 28, 2016


Kaepernick: "This country stands for freedom, liberty, justice for all. And it's not happening for all right now."

Tim Kawakami (@timkawakami) August 28, 2016

The response was swift and typical, with the loudest being the usual worst. How dare he disrespect America, the flag, troops, your grandma’s apple pie and the odd gravitas we place on positioning bodies a certain specific way before songs and inanimate objects. This football man shouldn’t be putting social issues over football, nor should he be make us conscious of those issues the status quo tries so hard to ignore.

The CBS family wasn’t immune to spontaneously combusting in fire takes.


Now we understand Colin Kaepernick! The country that lets you make tens of millions of dollars to be a wasted talent is your problem Colin?

Hub Arkush (@Hub_Arkush) August 27, 2016

Does Kaepernick realize that he spat in the face of those who so diligently/selflessly fight for his literal ability to protest?

Brandon Tierney (@BrandonTierney) August 27, 2016


$61m guaranteed... Very oppressed #ColinKaepernick

Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) August 27, 2016

..@bomani_jones 99% of people are against all kinds of racism,more & more opportunities are given to all-like Kaep

— Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) August 27, 2016

Kaep is the 1st ath to take a stand when he had this much to lose,makes it more bold.IMO his career is a display that racism isn't in NFL

Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) August 27, 2016

The takes over someone like Josh Brown, NFL domestic abuser du jour, have been spread much thinner than the outrage over Kaepernick, but, again, that just speaks to what we consider most important. Perceived disrespect to Old Glory is a much worse cultural offense than putting hands on a woman against her will. At least, it is in one of the two Americas that exist.

The stars and stripes fly over one of those Americas, the kind of America that exists inside a vacuum that is a stadium. Because a flag is a symbol, and symbols only have as much power as people give them. We’re also talking about having oodles of respect for an inanimate object and a poem that wasn’t supposed to be set to music in the first place.

Ask yourself what really bothers you about someone not standing at attention for the anthem? Even if you say you don’t agree with what he’s doing but believe he should still be allowed to do it (a common hedging out there), what about it is disagreeable? It’s not about men and women fighting and dying for his right to protest, no matter how much you lean on that convenient crutch. It’s not about him dividing us further (see: making racists angrier). Why does this non-criminal behavior bother you? Your answer speaks way more about your darkest scruples than anything about a protester.

The flag and song are only allowed to hold power if the interpreter gives them that power. For someone like Kaepernick, the flag and its song don’t contain a power to be revered. Intellectually, this shouldn’t be all that challenging.

The American flag’s particular power is given by people for whom their version of America is idyllic to the point of fairy tale (or Dream, if you will). The syllogism goes like this: Your life is overall pretty darn good. You live in America; therefore, America is good as are its given representative symbols. A variation involves concluding the one’s life is good because of America. The flaw in the equation is that it usually doesn’t consider why someone’s life is pretty good in the first place and/or that such isn’t true for a lot of people in this country.

Kaepernick put that flaw up to eye level for a lot of now-uncomfortable people. That freedom, liberty and justice for all that one America enjoys is “not happening for all right now.” This isn’t debatable.

It’s not exactly happening for Kaepernick either. Sure, he’s exercising his First Amendment right and would never face any documented governmental repercussions for his stance, but the First Amendment doesn’t protect someone’s job. As Kaepernick was already in a flimsy state of employment in San Francisco going into this season, his protest is absolutely the type of move the NFL of all places loathes, not matter what neutral statements by the league or team get released. This may hurt his employability with the 49ers or elsewhere, which is a whole other discussion.

But Kaepernick knows all this. He’s clearly thought this through and has said he’s aware of the ramifications. He’s fully aware that what he’s doing may negatively affect his fragile status on an NFL roster is even more noble. Substitute the status of football player and the object of flag/anthem, and he’d embody that revolutionary spirit we champion in the Founding Fathers. In one of the Americas.

That America is one that whitewashes Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. into safe, docile historical figure and recently celebrated the civil disobedience of Muhammad Ali because in death he’s no longer a threat to the establishment.

Kaepernick isn’t declaring himself Ali, but he’s doing the very thing we praised Ali for a few months ago in memoriam but not when he protested (like Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf and Carlos Delgado as well). It’s as though the figures who angered our parents or grandparents are now cool and idol-worthy, but the ones who parallel the same social conscience today and are an affront to the superficial BS we today hold dear have it all wrong.

America loves it when athletes speak truth to power. All we ask is that they do it 30 years ago. https://t.co/87yWSxcnKt

— King Kaufman (@king_kaufman) August 27, 2016

It’s those two Americas right there. Protest in the past is fine because “I Have a Dream” takes on a dream-like quality for those who don’t need to really be affected by it. Those are people who believe in the American Dream. And because Kaepernick has supposedly reached it, he need not fight more battles.


oh sure. if he was poor, you'd say "stop making excuses and make something of yourself" twitter.com/dbongino/statu…

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That he’s eschewing the comfort afforded to him by his wealth in order to make his statements is even more important. We want wealthy people to speak on so many topics — endorse products, support the troops, retweet pictures of our kids in jerseys — except that which makes us personally uncomfortable. And those who think Kaepernick’s money disqualifies him from speaking up for oppressed people are the worst of hypocrites and ones who are willfully ignorant of oppressed people as voiceless and then vilified when they try to protest. That’s the two Americas, though. As though once you’ve “made it” — whether by benefits of birth or hard work — you’re supposed to ignore those who haven’t.

A subset of this bad logic is proclaiming that America allowed for Kaepernick to be a millionaire playing a game, thus he can’t bite the red, white and blue hand that has fed him. There’s that loaded word “allowed.” Saying that implies there are those not allowed to fulfill the (myth of the) American Dream, and maybe those are the very people Kaepernick is sticking up for. But they’re in that other America.

The same one that in criticizing Kaepernick reproves the Gabby Douglas paternalism. Douglas made no protest yet still felt the brunt of blind patriotism because she suddenly was properly representing one of the Americas. Kaepernick is exercising a First Amendment right that many anti-PC folk who are flapping their hands over this usually champion … in one of the Americas. For all the mocking of “safe spaces” people of the ilk bothered by flag demonstrations make, they sure do construct their own, be they the politically impermeable bubble of sports or a fantasy country where systematic injustice is perpetually a thing of the past (if it ever existed at all).

Fox Sports 1’s Clay Travis likes to use “safe space” as a pejorative to dismiss his critics while in the process mocking victims of trauma whom Travis can’t empathize with. He penned a column and generally missed the point entirely, as he’s wont to do.

@ClayTravis you bigots would've said the same about Ali, Jim Brown and Bill Russell in their day as well. Much respect to Kaep.

— Evan Beauchamp (@bonafidelegit) August 27, 2016

I don't agree w/all of @ClayTravis column, but his points are always interesting and I agree with some.

Doug Gottlieb (@GottliebShow) August 27, 2016

Travis is representative of a sports talk culture that subtly shows which America it often speaks for. Khaled Beydoun — law professor, critical race theorist and columnist (so, like, someone way more versed in the baggage of this issue than you or me), in observing sports radio (but might as well be TV punditry and internet media sports talk, too) — notes four commonalities that exist among the denouncers of Kaepernick:

1) White men telling a Black man how to go about protesting the mistreatment of Black people;
2) Millionaire athletes should ‘keep politics out of sports,’ e.g., remain docile, dumb and “shut up and play;”
3) Playing a professional sport is a ‘privilege’ made possible by our wars abroad – not a supremely competitive job earned through world-class talent, hard work, and sacrifice; and
4) That Black Lives (mostly) Matter when entertaining fans through sport – not when victims, or political beings with ‘critical politics.’
Instead of assessing the merits of his free speech rights, these ‘sports experts’ infused their own political worldview to condemn Kaepernick’s. In short, they freely exercised the very right they unwaveringly denied him.

Such rights exist perfectly in one America, not so much in the other. One of those Americas went from a black guy with tattoos not being football CEO-worthy in 2012 to the same guy needing to acquiesce to the butt-headed binary demand of “love it or leave it” in 2016.

“O say does that star spangled banner yet wave
O’er the land of the free and the home of the brave?”

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95. "there. it. is."
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>And how often do any of us hear our national anthem played
>anywhere but prior to a sporting event? What does that say
>about the hollowness of our patriotism and what we really
>value most? What tangible thing would be lost if we got rid of
>it before games (and the worse use of “God Bless America”
>in the middle of baseball games)?

  

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94. "100% behind dude, tip my cap to him "
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The more these issues can be illuminated on a national stage, the more conversation and dialogue there is...as well as outing the naive and conditioned.

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97. "Rookie Eagles LB Myke Tavarres to sit too (swipe)"
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http://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/17415889/myke-tavarres-philadelphia-eagles-follow-colin-kaepernick-footsteps-sit-national-anthem

Myke Tavarres plans to sit out national anthem Thursday
1:51 PM ET

Philadelphia Eagles rookie linebacker Myke Tavarres has decided to join Colin Kaepernick in sitting out the national anthem.

Speaking to ESPN on Monday, Tavarres said he almost sat during the anthem ceremony preceding Saturday night's game against the Colts in Indianapolis, and he plans to follow through when the Eagles host the New York Jets in their preseason finale Thursday night.

"Oh, I thought about it. Believe me, I definitely thought about it," Tavarres said of sitting Saturday night. "And usually I'm front and center on the line with the rest of the guys, and that's since pre-K all the way up. Saturday's game, I stepped back, I was in the background, and it didn't feel right to me at all, and so I will be taking a stand -- or sitting down -- for the fourth game."

Kaepernick has created a national conversation for opting not to stand for "The Star Spangled Banner" this preseason because of his views on the country's treatment of racial minorities.

Eagles defensive coordinator Jim Schwartz had an open forum on the topic during a group meeting Monday, according to multiple players. Several people spoke, including Malcolm Jenkins, Leodis McKelvin and Tavarres, one source in attendance said.

"We've got an issue in this country in this day and age, and I feel like somebody needs to step up and we all need to step up," Tavarres said. "We've got that right. There's just a lot going on that people don't want to talk about, and I feel like us as athletes, we're looked at as role models. And I feel like with Colin Kaepernick, he's doing a great job for standing up in what he believes in, and most people may not like that, but that's his opinion, he's entitled to it, and I respect him for doing it."

Tavarres is an undrafted rookie out of Incarnate Word. He made the first round of cuts, as the Eagles recently trimmed their roster to 74 players, and is trying to make the team to contribute mainly on special teams.

He indicated that some people in the building are aware of his plans but said he hasn't had a conversation with his coaches yet.

"In this situation, I've really got nothing to lose," he said. "I'm a rookie free agent, haven't signed any major contract, so there's not a lot of money on the line, I don't have any big endorsement deals on the line. Really what's at stake is my pride and what kind of man would I be and what kind of African-American would I be if I didn't stand my ground on this issue we have today?

" needs to be done. Will there be backlash? Probably. I don't think anyone has bought my jersey yet, so I don't know if it's going to be burned, but it's a major issue and I'm definitely going to stand my ground for this one."

  

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105. "nope. his agent and old coachesadvised him not to (swipe)"
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http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/eagles-lb-reverses-course-wont-sit-during-anthem/ar-AAidXWo?OCID=twmsnspt

Myke Tavarres, the Philadelphia Eagles linebacker and rookie undrafted free agent, doesn't appear to be following Colin Kaepernick's lead after all.

After telling ESPN on Monday he plans to sit during the national anthem when the Eagles host the New York Jets on Thursday, Tavarres later reversed course and now does not plan to join the San Francisco 49ers quarterback in his protest.

"As a rookie, his goal is not to be a distraction for the Eagles," Tavarres' agent Corey Williams said, according to NFL Network's Mike Garafolo. "His coaches at Incarnate Word and I advised him to stand."

Tavarres previously said that as a rookie free agent he has "nothing to lose" by following Kaepernick's example.

"We've got an issue in this country in this day and age, and I feel like somebody needs to step up and we all need to step up," Tavarres said.

Kaepernick said Sunday he will continue to sit during the Star Spangled Banner "to stand with the people that are being oppressed."

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101. "Drew Brees (ESPN now swipe) via Mike Triplett"
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Drew Brees said he felt compelled to speak out against Colin Kaepernick's method of protest Monday, saying it was "bothering me all day long." The Saints quarterback, who is a passionate military supporter, said the American flag is "sacred." "I disagree. I wholeheartedly disagree," Brees said. "Not that he wants to speak out about a very important issue. No, he can speak out about a very important issue. But there's plenty of other ways that you can do that in a peaceful manner that doesn't involve being disrespectful to the American flag."

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102. "breezus pls."
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106. "RE: Drew Brees (ESPN now swipe) via Mike Triplett"
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https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/770376569466544128




Bomani's been killing it on twitter, coming into studio now off vacation.

  

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109. "Lol how was what Kaep did not peaceful"
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fucking christ

  

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110. "Pyramid scheme trick"
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107. "America* needs to grow the fuck up"
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About the flag. About the anthem. About the military. About "sportsmanship." Grow. The. Fuck. Up. People mad about this sound like fucking babies.

(* - white people)

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108. "Trump: Maybe he should find a country that works better for him"
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Honestly I was expecting something much more vile. Like a thinly veiled call for Kaepernick's death or something. I'm a little disappointed.

http://deadspin.com/donald-trump-on-colin-kaepernick-maybe-he-should-find-1785910423

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111. "the lack of self-awareness is almost comical."
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https://twitter.com/GolfweekEtzler/status/769571832034983936

reminds me of my favorite james baldwin quote:

"I love America more than any other country in this world, and, exactly for this reason, I insist on the right to criticize her perpetually."

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112. "smh...so jerry rice just tweeted all lives matter"
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113. "and suddenly we've remembered his half-bald braids"
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being the GOAT only buys you so much leeway from these jokes

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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115. "Well, that's certainly disappointing"
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248. "Perfect example of a dumb jock"
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coupled with being rich to long to relate.

The best part of Kaep's action is him stating that he READ UP on the subject and educated himself. "Ignorance is bliss" isn't just an idiom it describes whites and blacks mentality in the US due to the poor education on the history of this country and subsequent perpetual war. Jerry remedial ass should brush up on a few hundred pages before saying anything.

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114. "Four more sports-related jack-offs:"
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Jim Harbaugh, Alex Boone, tennis player John Isner, and Aubrey Huff

Probably the most disappointed in Harbaugh, who said he didn't respect Kaep's motivation or the action. He later tried to walk back to "doesn't respect the motivation" part in a tweet, but made to note that he had just mispoken "true sentiments." Whatever, guy.

Alex Boone said Kaep needs "to show some fucking respect for the people who served."

Isner called him "pathetic" and added he was "a big Blaine Gabbert fan." I guess there has to be one.

And Aubrey Huff won the hackneyed right-wing response Bingo with just one tweet: "This guy is a joke. Get lost. You don't like it in a country that has given you opportunity to succeed? Then get out"

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117. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bOXQibamM"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2bOXQibamM

>
>And Aubrey Huff won the hackneyed right-wing response Bingo
>with just one tweet: "This guy is a joke. Get lost. You don't
>like it in a country that has given you opportunity to
>succeed? Then get out"

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116. "And honestly, I'm tried a lot tired of the "split the difference""
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responses. Especially when they come from the "woke" athletes.

It's always along the lines of "I respect what he's doing, but I think he could have picked a better platform and a better way to do it." He's not standing for the anthem; I've never understood why that's somehow beyond the pale. He's not pissing on a the flag, or giving the crowd the middle finger, or saying "Fuck the troops," which is of course, those who speak out against him like to hide behind. He's not stand for a 90 second song.

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146. "is there a more measured, non-confrontational statement to make"
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than simply not standing?

the only "better platform" is keeping their mouth shut, which is what people are actually arguing for.

"better platform" = not saying anything, ever. I see you Brees/Harbaugh/Rice.

Shit even Richard Sherman "sees both sides" of the argument.

  

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152. "in the NFL? hmm...gonna go with nope."
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i'd normally say things like wearing BLM shirts or other such gear is better in terms of not poking the bear (like we've seen w/ basketball teams), but the NFL already has the uniform policy on lockdown. and it's not like those didn't lead to similar hot takes of anger either.

this is an interesting point--part of how this happened is likely because the NFL provides players no other means through one could take this type of stand publicly.

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120. "Wait!! We comparing Kaep to Ali now!?!??"
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See, niggas take shit too far.

I'm proud of Kaep.

I want him to continue doing what we wants. He wants
to express himself...I'm happy.

But y'all realize this nigga is training wheels fisher price
activist, right?

And that's FINE. This is his path.

But Lebron and Carmelo been doing ACTUAL shit in the hood
for a DECADE. There's kids in school. And food on tables.
Because of them dudes. THOSE are REFINED black men who
CARE about their communities and have DONE shit.

Kaep?

Kaep getting his Hillman College freshman on. LMAO @ that
X hat. Nigga, sit down.

In order for me to give him TRUE props, he's gonna have to
be IN THE HOOD AFTER THIS. I want him WORKING WITH BLACKS.

If he don't do that, he another corny posturing ass dude.







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121. "requires MASSIVE BALLS to do what he's doing right now tho"
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and one could make the argument that in many ways its easier to do the dirty behind-the-secenes work that lebron and carmelo are known for.

for this stunt, he may very well find himself on the argonauts next year.

hell, the majority of active / retired black athletes do a GANG of shit on the DAILY for the benefit of their communities (sheed / stephen jackson, etc) -- that for reasons unknown -- goes unpublicized

its 2016, and football is the new baseball. kaep is TROLLING the EVER-LOVING FUCK out of white america right now, holding its feet to the dumpster fire that is their hypocrisy.

and ba-da-ba-ba-baaaaa -- i'm loving it.

and in this climate, niggas bout NEED to bring back the x-hat -- AND the medallions -- might as well -- it compliment the d. rose fade errybody rockin

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128. "Requires MASSIVE-ER balls to send black children to college. "
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>its 2016, and football is the new baseball. kaep is TROLLING
>the EVER-LOVING FUCK out of white america right now, holding
>its feet to the dumpster fire that is their hypocrisy.

Exactly. Kaep is an internet troll. I like his trolling.
But he's just trolling.

Grown black men like Lebron and Carmelo are actually helping.

I'm down with Kaep, support him.

But LMAO @ cornball niggas thinking he's Ali.

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131. "meh. bill + melinda sending plenty colored kids to college."
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and cmon. who's REALLY comparing kaep to one of the greatest human beings to ever draw breath???

i feel what you gettin' at -- by all means -- cook, fam

you one of the best chefs on the board (no homo)

but cmon dog you reaching for ingredients

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136. "Bill + Melinda have legitimately saved tens of thousands of black kids"
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I don't even know why you'd bring that up as a
quasi-counter point.

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138. "they don't ''save'' black kids any more than the NBA/ NFL does"
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Tue Aug-30-16 10:37 AM by 2.tears.in.a.bucket

  

          

they hand-pick & award the (very much deserving) cream of the crop.

and they get massive tax breaks for doing so.

what are the gates' risking? money? their careers?

does money even exist in that realm which they inhabit?

hell, does RISK exist for bill gates?

philanthropy isn't necessarily activism - they both have their place & function

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141. "Are you on Heroin? "
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>they hand-pick & award the cream of the crop.

I have seen, with own two eyes, water systems implemented
with Gates funds that legitimately and clearly lead to
reductions in water borne illnesses.

So stop, and go get some fresh beeswax for your hair,
Hotep.




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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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187. "/end"
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>>they hand-pick & award the cream of the crop.
>
>I have seen, with own two eyes, water systems implemented
>with Gates funds that legitimately and clearly lead to
>reductions in water borne illnesses.
>
>So stop, and go get some fresh beeswax for your hair,
>Hotep.
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>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
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194. "RE: a touching sight, i'm sure. did you ugly-cry again like this? "
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http://i.imgur.com/3ZyZrsS.gifv

>>they hand-pick & award the cream of the crop.
>
>I have seen, with own two eyes, water systems implemented
>with Gates funds that legitimately and clearly lead to
>reductions in water borne illnesses.
>
>So stop, and go get some fresh beeswax for your hair,
>Hotep.
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>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

♚♚♚♚

#BYLUG >>> https://goo.gl/1ooFp6

♚♚♚♚

screamin' mothafuck a 12 /
bitches ain't shit /
cops ain't neither /
they huntin' my people /

- i. rashad

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246. "RE: Bill + Melinda have legitimately saved tens of thousands of black ki..."
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Sat Sep-03-16 12:33 PM by thebadnegro

          

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pjj4Iq-rsNg

fake, fraudulant Autism studies, huh Billy boy? f.o.h. cracka ass cracka. these studies are well known and have now been acknowledged directly by doctors who worked for/with the CDC and exposed their corruption.

since Farrakhan (and many others) blew the lid off this shit and he knew no one would believe him (and before u go into your Kufi/Hotep/ salaam alaikum schtick) , Robert F. Kennedy Jr. X decided to take the bataan.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icSIbnHR4XE


f.o.h. with this Bill Gates shit. u gotta stop trustin these crackas man (and the majority of these niggas as well). mufuckas will always place a few pieces of good food to lure the prey into the trap. if he puts a few million into food and clean water, he knows fools will trust him when he brings in those billions worth of death and disease... i mean vaccines.

  

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122. "lulz. i chuckled at the hat too."
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>Kaep getting his Hillman College freshman on. LMAO @ that
>X hat. Nigga, sit down.

dude's whole vibe is "new woke". just started reading, like you said. which is fine. but yeah.

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125. "Colin Kaepernick is Colin Kaepernick"
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Carmelo Anthony is Carmelo Anthony, LeBron James is LeBron James, and Muhammad Ali is Muhammad Ali. Unless Kaepernick himself wants to compare himself to the other folks mentioned in your original post with the stance he's taking, he should be able to exist in his own lane and operate on his own terms. Not saying he's above criticism, but comparing him to other folks isn't fair IMO. Let him be him.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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129. "Yeah, Colin is a Freshman at Hillman, changing his name to "Kwame" "
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And I'm not mad.

He's doing what he has to do to get the knowledge he needs.

When he's ready, he can join the movement of actual grown
intelligent black MEN who are actually DOING something.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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265. "Earth is Earth (c) All Stah"
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<----- Long Live The King

  

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126. ""White people" have never had a problem with blacks doing shit in the ho..."
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they don't care about the hood and don't focus on it, so the coverage and attention is minimal.

it's when truth is spoken to their power that it causes issues.

not calling him nelson mandela, but in this era of media exposure and scrutiny, and jingoistic ecstasy, it was a gangster fucking move to both do it and EXPLAIN IT in the way that he did. I don't believe it's all he's going to do. He's thought a lot about it and seems to be prepared for the repercussions.

As a fan of the team and a greater fan of what he's doing, I just hope his play improves, so that he can grab his balls and continue to flick off his growing list of haters.

>See, niggas take shit too far.
>
>I'm proud of Kaep.
>
>I want him to continue doing what we wants. He wants
>to express himself...I'm happy.
>
>But y'all realize this nigga is training wheels fisher price
>activist, right?
>
>And that's FINE. This is his path.
>
>But Lebron and Carmelo been doing ACTUAL shit in the hood
>for a DECADE. There's kids in school. And food on tables.
>Because of them dudes. THOSE are REFINED black men who
>CARE about their communities and have DONE shit.
>
>Kaep?
>
>Kaep getting his Hillman College freshman on. LMAO @ that
>X hat. Nigga, sit down.
>
>In order for me to give him TRUE props, he's gonna have to
>be IN THE HOOD AFTER THIS. I want him WORKING WITH BLACKS.
>
>If he don't do that, he another corny posturing ass dude.
>
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>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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127. "Sorry, but you are either high, out of your fucking mind, or a coon. "
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Tue Aug-30-16 08:59 AM by Orbit_Established

  

          


Did you seriously say that white people don't have a problem
with black people empowering other blacks to seize economic
and political power!?!?!

Fuck is wrong with you!?!?

Nigga, they didn't assassinate and kill and dismantle
the Panthers because of some silly ass clothes and
cornball Maoist TALK. They got rid of the Panthers
because they were feeding black children and Sickle Cell
screening and teaching black kids how to read and understand
the world.

THAT is revolutionary and scary to white racists.

Not a shitty backup QB who acts like a Freshman at Hillman
College

If anything, these corny "symbolic" acts are chuckle
worthy, because they don't put ANY food on ANY tables.

Kaepernick gains notoriety from this, and no food goes
on any tables.

AGAIN: Let's see what he does NEXT.

He BETTER be IN THE HOOD. DEEP IN THE HOOD.

Or it's just talk.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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135. "RE: Sorry, but you are either high, out of your fucking mind, or a coon...."
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>AGAIN: Let's see what he does NEXT.

On this point, I'm very curious if the storylines and attention behind Kaepernick's stance changes, especially if dude struggles on the field, or even worse if dude is booted from the 9'ers because he just that bad with the QB play.

The narratives behind what Kaepernick is doing can go some interesting directions.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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137. "Either Kaep does what Melo/Lebron BEEN DOING or he gets fried"
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>>AGAIN: Let's see what he does NEXT.
>
>On this point, I'm very curious if the storylines and
>attention behind Kaepernick's stance changes, especially if
>dude struggles on the field, or even worse if dude is booted
>from the 9'ers because he just that bad with the QB play.
>
>The narratives behind what Kaepernick is doing can go some
>interesting directions.

He better be DEEP in the hood empowering black kids.

DEEP in the hood.

If he aint?

Another grandstanding posturing black man


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140. "you sound like one of these flag patriots"
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>
>Did you seriously say that white people don't have a problem
>with black people empowering other blacks to seize economic
>and political power!?!?!
tone the fuck down. i definitely didn't say that shit that you just phrased above. since when does "being in the hood" automatically mean empowering other blacks to SEIZE economic and political power. turn down your senstationalist interpreter machine fam, seriously.

>Fuck is wrong with you!?!?
>
>Nigga, they didn't assassinate and kill and dismantle
>the Panthers because of some silly ass clothes and
>cornball Maoist TALK. They got rid of the Panthers
>because they were feeding black children and Sickle Cell
>screening and teaching black kids how to read and understand
>the world.
gun control legislation came knocking under saint ronnie's california when the panthers armed up.

>THAT is revolutionary and scary to white racists.
>
>Not a shitty backup QB who acts like a Freshman at Hillman
>College
>
>If anything, these corny "symbolic" acts are chuckle
>worthy, because they don't put ANY food on ANY tables.
>
>Kaepernick gains notoriety from this, and no food goes
>on any tables.
>
>AGAIN: Let's see what he does NEXT.
>
>He BETTER be IN THE HOOD. DEEP IN THE HOOD.
>
>Or it's just talk.
the response that has come already proves that it is way way more than "just talk."

  

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142. "You sound like a minor league Hotep "
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249. "You sound like an ill informed kid whose parents glossed over your"
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black history lessons... then u glossed over them again in college.


>>Did you seriously say that white people don't have a problem
>
>>with black people empowering other blacks to seize economic
>>and political power!?!?!
>tone the fuck down. i definitely didn't say that shit that you
>just phrased above. since when does "being in the hood"
>automatically mean empowering other blacks to SEIZE economic
>and political power. turn down your senstationalist
>interpreter machine fam, seriously.

dude, that's basically what u said. why the hell else would Bron and Melo be in the hood spending millions of dollars on youth/education programs (they may not be the most effective programs, but they're still programs that are empowering people in the hood)?


>>Fuck is wrong with you!?!?
>>
>>Nigga, they didn't assassinate and kill and dismantle
>>the Panthers because of some silly ass clothes and
>>cornball Maoist TALK. They got rid of the Panthers
>>because they were feeding black children and Sickle Cell
>>screening and teaching black kids how to read and understand
>>the world.

>gun control legislation came knocking under saint ronnie's
>california when the panthers armed up.

gun control legislation? nigga are u foreal? what about the J. Edgar Hoover, FBI/CIA sponsored COUNTER INTELLIGENCE PROGRAM???
if you're not more than a lil bit familiar with it the documents are readily available to anyone with online access. OE just brought up assassinations and u talkin about some bullshit gun control program smh.

i'm not here to pile on with condemnation, but the shit ur sayin is definitely not on point and worthy of criticism.

  

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130. "since we don't have a time machine (c) ba"
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139. "He's not Ali but Kap he's stepping out there more than any other athlete..."
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in the 4 major professional team sports in the modern era.

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173. "No, but it's legit to compare this stand to Ali's stand on Vietnam"
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He's taking shots at the prevailing sentiment of patriotism and criticizing the country for it's treatment of black folks and standing up in the face of the backlash.

No, Kaep isn't on Ali's level. But this stand right here descends from the Ali tree.

  

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178. "Cool, so Kaep is facing prison time? "
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181. "No, which is why this isn't on Ali's level...like I said."
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124. "Good for Kaepernick"
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proud of that dude.

Love the way he's staying focused and not getting distracted by all the patriotic non-sense.

I also love the fact that in this day and age hypocritical people calling him can be called out by regular people. Tony Stewart and Tiki Barber come to mind. LOL
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132. "Bomani's piece on Kaep"
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http://theundefeated.com/features/kaepernick-is-asking-for-justice-not-peace/

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133. "fire"
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134. "SI had a great piece from this dude on thecoli too"
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https://thecauldron.si.com/colin-kaepernick-is-the-american-dream-95720446cc39?gi=7aa591a05b45

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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145. "excellent."
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157. "GODDAMN"
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"Mindless populism embodied by Trump and Sanders are like a malignant wart on our body politic"

  

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158. "shit, i almost stood and saluted after reading that FIRE."
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not the flag, the article. so much truth.

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195. "Great read...that last paragraph gave me full on chills"
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Bomani with that ether

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267. "greatness"
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amazing piece

  

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143. "A military veteran weighs in with blue flame (via Facebook)"
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Jim Wright
August 28 at 6:43pm · Pensacola, FL ·

"I am not going to stand up to show pride in a flag for a country that oppresses black people and people of color. To me, this is bigger than football and it would be selfish on my part to look the other way. There are bodies in the street and people getting paid leave and getting away with murder."

I've been away from the internet all day.

I came home from a family picnic on the Blackwater River to find my inbox, as usual, overflowing like a ripe Port-O-Pottie.

One of the first messages I read was about 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, quoted above, who last Friday night at the beginning of a preseason game suddenly decided to become the most hated man in America du jour by deliberately not standing for the National Anthem.

Yes, that's right, a football player didn't stand for the National Anthem.

As you know, this means Kaepernick is scum, a horrible human being, a likely member of ISIS, a Muslim terrorist, a black thug, a communist, a socialist (and not the cool share your weed Bernie Sanders kind of socialist but the Red Brigade kind of Socialist who sleeps under a poster of Chairman Mao), a radical, a Black Panther, and he probably has Fidel Castro's phone number in his contact favorites.

Yeah. Okay.

I answered the message and went on to the next one.

The next message was about Kaepernick. As was the next one. And the next one. And...

They all begin pretty much the same way: Jim, AS A VETERAN, what do you think about this? Well?

Let me answer all the messages at once
__________

AS A VETERAN, what do I think about Colin Kaepernick's decision to sit during the National Anthem?

As a veteran?

Very well, as a veteran then, this is what I believe:

The very first thing I learned in the military is this: Respect is a two-way street. If you want respect, true respect, sincere respect, then you have to GIVE IT.

If you want respect, you have to do the things necessary to earn it each and every single day. There are no short cuts and no exceptions.

Respect cannot be compelled.

Respect cannot be bought.

Respect cannot be inherited.

Respect cannot be demanded at the muzzle of a gun or by beating it into somebody or by shaming them into it. Can not. You might get what you think is respect, but it's not. It's only the appearance of respect. It's fear, it's groveling, it's not respect. Far, far too many people both in and out of the military, people who should emphatically know better, do not understand this simple fact: there is an enormous difference between fear and respect.

Respect has to be earned.

Respect. Has. To. Be. Earned.

Respect has to be earned every day, by every word, by every action.

It takes a lifetime of words and deeds to earn respect.

It takes only one careless word, one thoughtless action, to lose it.

You have to be worthy of respect. You have to live up to, or at least do your best to live up to, those high ideals -- the ones America supposedly embodies, that shining city on the hill, that exceptional nation we talk about, yes, that one. To earn respect you have to be fair. You have to have courage. You must embrace reason. You have to know when to hold the line and when to compromise. You have to take responsibility and hold yourself accountable. You have to keep your word. You have to give respect, true respect, to get it back.

There are no short cuts. None.

Now, any veteran worth the label should know that. If they don't, then likely they weren't much of a soldier to begin with and you can tell them I said so.

IF Kaepernick doesn't feel his country respects him enough for him to respect it in return, well, then you can't MAKE him respect it.

You can not make him respect it.

If you try to force a man to respect you, you'll only make him respect you less.

With threats, by violence, by shame, you can maybe compel Kaepernick to stand up and put his hand over his heart and force him to be quiet. You might.

But that's not respect.

It's only the illusion of respect.

You might force this man into the illusion of respect. You might. Would you be satisfied then? Would that make you happy? Would that make you respect your nation, the one which forced a man into the illusion of respect, a nation of little clockwork patriots all pretending satisfaction and respect? Is that what you want? If THAT's what matters to you, the illusion of respect, then you're not talking about freedom or liberty. You're not talking about the United States of America. Instead you're talking about every dictatorship from the Nazis to North Korea where people are lined up and MADE to salute with the muzzle of a gun pressed to the back of their necks.

That, that illusion of respect, is not why I wore a uniform.

That's not why I held up my right hand and swore the oath and put my life on the line for my country.

That, that illusion of respect, is not why I am a veteran.

Not so a man should be forced to show respect he doesn't feel.

That's called slavery and I have no respect for that at all.

If Americans want this man to respect America, then first they must respect him.

If America wants the world's respect, it must be worthy of respect.

America must be worthy of respect. Torture, rendition, indefinite detention, unarmed black men shot down in the street every day, poverty, inequality, voter suppression, racism, bigotry in every form, obstructionism, blind patriotism, NONE of those things are worthy of respect from anybody -- least of all an American.

But doesn't it also mean that if Kaepernick wants respect, he must give it first? Give it to America? Be worthy of respect himself? Stand up, shut up, and put his hand over his heart before Old Glory?

No. It doesn't.

Respect doesn't work that way.

Power flows from positive to negative. Electricity flows from greater potential to lesser.

The United States isn't a person, it's a vast construct, a framework of law and order and civilization designed to protect the weak from the ruthless and after more than two centuries of revision and refinement it exists to provide in equal measure for all of us the opportunity for life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. The United States is POWER.

All the power rests with America. Just as it does in the military chain of command. And like that chain of command, like the electrical circuit described above, respect must flow from greater to lesser FIRST before it can return.

To you the National Anthem means one thing, to Kaepernick it means something else. We are all shaped and defined by our experiences and we see the world through our own eyes. That's freedom. That's liberty. The right to believe differently. The right to protest as you will. The right to demand better. The right to believe your country can BE better, that it can live up to its sacred ideals, and the right to loudly note that it has NOT. The right to use your voice, your actions, to bring attention to the things you believe in. The right to want more for others, freedom, liberty, justice, equality, and RESPECT.

A true veteran might not agree with Colin Kaepernick, but a true veteran would fight to the death to protect his right to say what he believes.

You don't like what Kaepernick has to say? Then prove him wrong, BE the nation he can respect.

It's really just that simple.

  

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>You don't like what Kaepernick has to say? Then prove him
>wrong, BE the nation he can respect.

  

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"powerful. i love this response."


  

          

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151. "."
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155. "But how is this thoughtful response better than my meme"
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of a Sgt Slaughter-looking jackass yelling at a cartoon of Kap?

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160. "damn"
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>Instead you're talking about every dictatorship from the Nazis to North Korea where people are lined up and MADE to salute with the muzzle of a gun pressed to the back of their necks.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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147. "yall see what Rodney Harrison said about Kaep?"
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"I tell you this, I"m a black man. And Colin Kapernick - he's not black. He can not understand what I face and what other young black men and black people face, or people of color face, on a every single (day) basis....."

thoughts?

  

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150. "great, another fucking genius."
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Rodney Harrison on Colin Kaepernick: 'He's not black'
August 30, 2016 12:17pm EDT
Rodney Harrison doesn't think Colin Kaepernick understands the injustices he's protesting against.
By Jordan Heck
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@jordanheckff


The Colin Kaepernick takes keep rolling in, and Rodney Harrison delivered a hot one during an interview on iHeartRadio Tuesday morning.

http://sports790.iheart.com/onair/the-proper-gentlemen-of-sports-52356/rodney-harrison-says-kaepernick-doesnt-understand-15059009/

"I tell you this, I'm a black man. And Colin Kaepernick — he's not black," Harrison said. "He can not understand what I face and what other young black men and black people face, or people of color face, on a every single (day) basis. When you walk in a grocery store, and you might have $2,000 or $3,000 in your pocket and you go up in to a Foot Locker and they're looking at you like you about to steal something.

"You know, I don't think he faces those type of things that we face on a daily basis."

Kaepernick was adopted at birth, but he comes from a biologically white mother and black father. Considering he's biracial, Kaepernick is viewed by most as a person of color and has to deal with racial issues. Just take a gander at his Twitter mentions over the last few days.

http://blacksportsonline.com/home/2016/08/kaepernick-asks-for-better-treatment-for-blacks-so-his-social-media-flooded-with-ngger-comments/

Just a few years ago, Kaepernick had to deal with people blasting him for kissing his tattoos. Even as a child (https://www.mrporter.com/journal/the-look/mr-colin-kaepernick/535) he dealt with people judging him for the color of his skin. These are the reasons Kaepernick decided to protest, but Harrison still doesn't feel like the 49ers quarterback understands the struggle.

"I'm not saying he has to be black, but I'm saying, his heart is in the right place, but even with what he's doing, he still doesn't understand the injustices as a black man, or people of color, that's what I'm saying," Harrison said.

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153. "yeah, his whole statement is really so asinine."
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dude's father is Black. but he's not a person of color.

Hanh? (c) yeezy

  

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154. "CTE is real."
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169. "^^^ having just watched concussion, this is an under rated reply"
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I'm sure a black male adopted by a white family has never been the target of racism in 'murica

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177. "I wish these rxns could be attributed to a condition"
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Sadly we know that's not the case for most people.

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161. "sounds like he understands it more than harrison"
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> he still doesn't understand the injustices as a black man, or people of color, that's what I'm saying,

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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163. "hahaha....he's not black???? Then what is he?"
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Harrison is a idiot savant.

How stupid can you be sazying dumb isht like that?!

Prime example of a dude making comments to curry favor with YT.

He's a well trained one...

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156. "And it gets better:"
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https://twitter.com/Rodney_Harrison/status/770677454256168961?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

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164. "Ohhhh...he didn't know.....makes sense now"
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HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

What an idiot....

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165. "So TMZ added their own subtitle?"
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Maybe he thought Kaep was Dominican?

http://www.tmz.com/2016/08/30/nfls-rodney-harrison-colin-kaepernick-is-not-black/

  

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166. "lol..."
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https://twitter.com/mlse/status/770679579665174528

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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174. "lol, twitter is frying this cat. "
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175. "LMAO! That tweet is HILARIOUS! n/m"
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167. "Tony Dungy probably called him and checked his ass, lol"
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171. "HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
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200. "lying, backpedaling, and full of shit."
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159. "I see he's learning from Screaming A"
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to be loud, proud, and wrong all at the same time.

Anything to get that media attention these days, I suppose.

It's truly scary if dude actually believes in that nonsense he said in the linked article.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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182. "If Kap isnt black..why is everyone on the internet calling him a nigga"
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197. "What a f*cking idiot Harrison is..."
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Let's just say that Kaep isn't Black? What... he
can't express empathy, outrage and solidarity with
people who are mistreated? What the f*ck is his
point and what the f*ck is Rodney Harrison doing
about the problem?

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149. "As someone who frequently goes to events and sits next to a dude"
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who does not stand during the anthem. It's crazy how often other men will try to shame or intimidate the dude to stand. He's a big (read husky) Black dude with dreads who wears a keffiyeh, so that probably doesn't help, and the crowd is usually a fight crowd so it's full of white first-responder-goons and the like, but it's an aggressive thing. Dude just laughs it off but I almost want to sit with him to take the attention off him.

Anyway, I hope Kaepernick puts his money and his time off the field where his mouth is, but I think his responses (and surprisingly the Niners) have been good so far.

  

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172. "B(rian) Mitch supports. R*dskins first ever black player does not."
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https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/dc-sports-bog/wp/2016/08/30/redskins-hall-of-famer-to-colin-kaepernick-understand-how-you-feel-but-stand/

Redskins Hall of Famer to Colin Kaepernick: ‘Understand how you feel, but stand’

At the risk of overloading on soundbites about Colin Kaepernick’s decision to remain seated during the national anthem, here are a couple of thoughtful responses from all-time Redskins greats.

Hall of Famer Bobby Mitchell, the franchise’s first black player, spoke recently with WJLA about the new Smithsonian National Museum of African American History and Culture, and in the course of the interview, he was also asked about Kaepernick.

“You can’t help but have mixed feelings,” Mitchell said, “but I would say to him that it’s still your country. We’ve had to do a lot of things we didn’t like, and this museum will speak to that, but if at all possible partner, stand. Understand how you feel, but stand. I get tears, just like anybody else, and I might have just got through being treated like a dog out on the street. I still stand.”

Mitchell, interestingly, was part of a group of athletes who met with Muhammad Ali in 1967 about his refusal to be inducted into the military.

“I’m patriotic,” Mitchell had told The Post in 1976, when he was working for the Redskins as director of professional scouting. “And we felt that it would reflect on all of us if Ali did not go into the military.”

“He was refusing to go in, and as a group, we thought that it might be a good idea for him to go on…because we didn’t understand his faith either at that time,” Mitchell told ESPN 980 earlier this year, after Ali’s death.

But Ali convinced the group he was sincere in his religious beliefs, and they wouldn’t be able to change his mind.

Meanwhile, another former Redskins great — running back Brian Mitchell — had a different opinion about the Kaepernick controversy.


“I have to applaud him, because I know he understood that it would be a lot of backlash coming from that,” Brian Mitchell said on The Dean Obeidallah Show on SiriusXM. “And I agree with him, liberty and justice for all. It’s not just for a certain aspect of this society. And it’s amazing to me that everyone can protest, but when anybody that’s not of white America protests, then we want to say ‘Shut up,’ or ‘Go back to your country.’ Well, I’ve been in this country for 48 years. I’m 48 years old. And I know a lot of people that are in this country, your nationality came here at the same time mine came here. Unfortunately, mine was forced to come, and yours came to try and find something.

“The United States of America was built by different people, and we all have that right: if we don’t like something, we can protest it,” Brian Mitchell went on. “People say ‘Take race out of it.’ You can’t take race out of it, because when you look on Twitter, you see it’s nothing but things about race. He’s getting called everything but the child of God, told to go back to Africa. … I think he has a different perspective on what America is than I do, because I didn’t grow up with a white family, as he did. So he was able to get inside a little bit and also see the intricate racism that goes on in this country. So I’m going to say I applaud him for doing it, knowing what would come about, but I’m not going to say that is what everyone should do. Colin felt strongly enough to do that, and you have to applaud a guy for that.”

  

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176. "This wasn't going to be free or easy for him and he knew that."
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That's why I have to respect it. Not everyone is Ali, not everyone has an eloquent protest statement. He did something though.

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179. "I feel like this has caused more uproar than the ESPYs. It's incredible."
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Colin damn Kapernick.

Also, check the #VeteransforKapernick hashtag....they not talkin bout that yet

  

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180. "They didn't actually say much at the ESPYs"
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The gesture and image was meaningful, but the words were pretty empty and certainly non confrontational.

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183. "So were Colin's. And Colin is a bum ass backup. "
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Lebron is the most famous athlete in the world.

Him saying *anything* is way, way, way scarier to racists
than a bum ass backup not standing up for the anthem

Also, Lebron puts kids through college, so he's more revolutionary
on multiple fronts.

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184. "Clearly it isn't."
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>Him saying *anything* is way, way, way scarier to racists
>than a bum ass backup not standing up for the anthem

if this were true, people would have been going harder at him than they are at Kaep.

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192. "That's because racists are dumb"
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>
>>Him saying *anything* is way, way, way scarier to racists
>>than a bum ass backup not standing up for the anthem
>
>if this were true, people would have been going harder at him
>than they are at Kaep.

Lebron overthrowing white supremacy more than Kaep is

It's not even a competition

I love both, tho

Not hating on Kaep one bit

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186. "oh they shook as hell about #VeteransforKaepernick"
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>Also, check the #VeteransforKapernick hashtag....they not
>talkin bout that yet

the racists had co-opted vets, but they just got swerved and now are pathetically trolling those same (mostly black) vets who have posted the hasthtag and pics in fatigues.

a lot of these military folk speaking out are still on active duty too.



  

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185. "my only issue/concern is those defending kaep by making it a freedom"
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of speech issue. bc what happens when someone is disciplined/blackballed for expressing hateful opinions? Free speech is free speech...

Obviously there was nothing hateful about what kaep said(its actually the opposite) but we know how it is being twisted.

I appreciate that kaep's message has been simple and direct...flag supposed to represent freedom/justice/equality and its not. Til it does, I'm not recognizing it. I don't think anything from him has been about freedom of speech.

But i think it opens a can of worms when people use it to defend what he's doing.

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188. "49ers @ chargers about to be most watched presason game ever"
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SANTA CLARA -- Thursday's preseason game between the 49ers and Chargers promises to have plenty of red, white and boo.

The Chargers announced that the game will be their annual Salute to the Military and that the national anthem will be sung by Petty Officer 1st Class Steven Powell from the U.S. Navy. The Salute to the Military game is held every preseason by the Chargers to pay tribute to the thousands of military members who live in the area. San Diego is a naval town and has the highest number of military personnel on the west coast.

The game happens to coincide with the arrival of 49ers quarterback Colin Kaepernick, whose refusal to stand during the anthem has roiled a big segment of the country, especially current and former servicemen and women.

Kaepernick explained Sunday that he's protesting against unfair practices and police violence against minorities, not taking a swipe at the military.

"I have great respect for the men and women that have fought for this country," he said. "I have family, I have friends that have gone and fought for this country. And they fight for freedom, they fight for the people, they fight for liberty and justice, for everyone. That’s not happening."

Kaepernick said he was not worried about his safety in Thursday’s game.

“Not really too concerned about that,” he said. “At the end of the day, if something happens, that’s only proving my point.”

Kaepernick likely will start the contest, the preseason finale for both teams. The game typically is the least important warm-up of the summer, one in which Week 1 starters are held out and only players fighting for a spot on the bottom of rosters take part.

This one, however, will have coast-to-coast interest, especially the pregame ceremony, which promises to have plenty of flag waving.

The Chargers announced that pregame entertainment will be provided by the Marine Band San Diego along with the Frog X parachute team, which features retired navy seals who will descend into Qualcomm Stadium.

While the anthem is being sung, 240 sailors, marines and soldiers will be on the field with a "super" U.S. flag. At halftime six Vietnam War veterans will be recognized as part of a remembrance of the 50th anniversary of the war. At the start of the third quarter, Powell will be back on the field to perform God Bless America.

  

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189. "And we're mad at *Kap* for "inserting politics into sports""
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>The Chargers announced that pregame entertainment will be
>provided by the Marine Band San Diego along with the Frog X
>parachute team, which features retired navy seals who will
>descend into Qualcomm Stadium.
>
>While the anthem is being sung, 240 sailors, marines and
>soldiers will be on the field with a "super" U.S. flag. At
>halftime six Vietnam War veterans will be recognized as part
>of a remembrance of the 50th anniversary of the war. At the
>start of the third quarter, Powell will be back on the field
>to perform God Bless America.

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190. "NFL has been strong on the propaganda for a while now"
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not in a good way.

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191. "Btw both the motivation for AND method of his stance deserve debate IMO"
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To some extent, I agree with people complaining that the debate is revolving over whether he's choosing an "appropriate" way of making his point about white supremacy / injustice / etc, because the real debate should be around the substance of the point itself.

But in a year when the Democrats are doubling down on American exceptionalism, and we've got our next President saying things like "America is great because America is good" in her convention speech, it's also important to be thoughtful about what good citizenship and being loyal to country truly mean, which is NOT being reflexively uncritical of one's country.

  

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193. "Namless NFL executive compares Kaep to Rae Caruth (LINK)"
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These guys all sound like a bunch of Grade A shit-heads. Calling him a traitor, claiming he has no respect for the country. Of course, they all do this anonymously.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2651681-mike-freemans-10-point-stance-kaepernick-anger-intense-in-nfl-front-offices

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196. "How is Kaep a traitor? "
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I need someone to break this down in the best way possible.

  

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201. "the white irony is almost satire"
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if a healthy Kaepernick isn't in the NFL in 2017 he was clearly blackballed for this. despite his obvious struggles, there's no way 64 other quarterbacks are better than him.

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202. "smh someone actually fixed their face to say he has nothing to lose."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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205. "The NFL is the world's dumbest corporation "
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At every level from owner on down, dumb is a virtue.

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261. "yeah of all the fucked up things, that one was most fucked up"
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it wasnt so much the "comparison" (not sure he compared them) but the broader notion that he is being resented by NFL brass in a fashion anywhere close to the repugnance carruth inspired. i mean these two things are not commensurate on ANY level.

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206. "Damn they're about to try to Nate Parker Kaep..."
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nfl/niners/2014/04/10/colin-kaepernick-investigation/7550297/

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207. "that story's two and a half years old."
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no charges were ever filed.

  

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209. "lulz"
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210. "ok, my bad"
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208. "c'mon"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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211. "Kaep rocks socks featuring a pig in a cop's uniform (LINK)"
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http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/9/1/12748234/colin-kaepernick-cop-pig-socks-kezar-practice

Personally, IDGAF about what he puts on his socks, but I doubt this is going to play well. I can easily see the small amount of good will that he has could easily evaporate as the new story becomes "Kaepernick thinks all cops are pigs!!!"

The context (besides the obvious): 1. SFPD has been going hard against him since the story broke and 2. SFPD is embroiled in some serious scandals involving everything from questionable shootings to racist text messages.

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212. "ugh... amateur-hour activist coming thru."
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on the heels of vetsforkaepernick catching fire, it felt like he was gaining momentum.

for the record, SFPD can get the finger... but he's gotta know, you can't get into a pissing contest with a nest of skunks.

  

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213. "agreed 100%"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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225. "agreed."
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214. "lmao @ this weak ass deflection. i guess kaep dont have a point"
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since he isn't pristine perfect anymore.

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215. "what next, a che T?"
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see, stuff like this goes back to what OE was talking about, i.e. hillman college freshman revolutionary, fisher price my first activism.

the silent protest was a winner, i clapped to that 100%, but immature shit like this is counterproductive and unnecessarily antagonistic. it obscures your message, it moves nothing forward and it doesn't help you to be taken more seriously.

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216. "It is worth noting that the pic is from Aug. 10."
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So he wore the socks before he decided to not stand for the anthem. Just no one noticed the details of the pic until now.

And the SFPD is REALLY fucked up these days.

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217. "Deflections aplenty..."
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media coverage could just focus on the points he's keeping CLEARLY stating.


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222. "ahh, this changes my stance. i thought he followed the BLM with the sock..."
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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224. "okay, that timing makes more sense."
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i thought he had the battery in his back behind the anthem uproar and called himself upping the stakes w/ this silly sock thing. which would have been a dumb move.

his next play needs to be something of substance, not just symbolic.

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221. "but they clowning folk over in GD for thinking this way"
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240. "as they should. that way of thinking is horseshit."
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237. "Close....He had that Castro/X shirt lol"
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218. "Who cares?"
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219. "Sadly, lots of people"
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Because now the innaccurate narrative has become: "Kaep protests silently, then decides to antagonize all police officers."

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220. "And he responds via IG:"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BJ0vPsQAGZQ/

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223. "Not disrespecting The Troops, though"
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Which is what everyone was supposedly so angry about to begin with.

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239. "non-issue."
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226. "eric reid joined kaepernick in taking a knee for the anthem"
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awwww shit

  

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227. "Good for him. Always liked Reid"
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And so far Kaep is playing well enough to keep his spot on the roster. I'm wondering if they sit him for the rest of the game, or trot him out for no real reason in the second quarter.

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228. "yeah i thought it was great. jeremy lane did it also tonight in oakland"
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>And so far Kaep is playing well enough to keep his spot on
>the roster. I'm wondering if they sit him for the rest of the
>game, or trot him out for no real reason in the second
>quarter.

i'd like to see him finish the second half, tho i think he's already positively played himself into the backup job. arm strength looked pretty strong on the intermediate stuff...and he was *mostly* accurate against the scrubs.

  

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229. "Uh oh... the Blackness is spreading. Jeremy Lane sat too?"
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on the real, though, I'd love to see this catch on and grow into a something bigger.

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230. "Screamin' A goes in on Cam's post racial neutrality (vid)"
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https://youtu.be/2mMD9nAo5fQ

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231. "screaming a is one of the best nicknames ever"
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232. "RE: Screamin' A goes in on Cam's post racial neutrality (vid)"
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lmao 1/8th of an inch.....

I love that lame ass argument when people ask....how can skin color be so divisive.

Go ask the fucking white people who started this bullshit off 1/8th of an inch.


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238. "Interesting"
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Is Cam going with the "If you can't beat 'em, join 'em" type of mentality?

Looks as if this upcoming regular season will have plenty of things to keep any eye out for.

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233. "http://www.theroot.com/blog/the-grapevine/colin-kaepernick-and-hot-97s-n..."
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http://www.theroot.com/blog/the-grapevine/colin-kaepernick-and-hot-97s-nessa-donates-60k-worth-of-backpacks-to-south-bronx-and-harlem-kids/

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234. "didn't realize they were out as a couple..ebro stayed teasing her"
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when she first joined the station

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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236. "Kaep to donate first $1 million of salary to community organizations (LI..."
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This is dope. He's always been good donating to charity throughout his career. But good to see him continuing to put his money where his mouth is.

http://www.ninersnation.com/2016/9/1/12767276/colin-kaepernick-donating-one-million-dollars-to-community-organizations

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250. "no post about kap *bye felicia'ing* jason whitlock?"
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http://deadspin.com/jason-whitlock-lectures-colin-kaepernick-at-presser-ge-1786109495

  

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252. "Megan Rapinoe kneels during anthem before game today"
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253. "yes"
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publicly admonishing Hope Solo and now this? awesome. adding a proudly gay white woman who has actual patriotic accomplishments to the movement is going to cause some media members' heads to explode.

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256. "right...who will be the first to say she's disrespecting the anthem..."
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and the troops? I mean, they have to right? Cuz if she's not, that means...

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254. "fuckin love it "
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255. "Yes"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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257. "The onus is really on the so called "non racist" whites"
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Not Kaep, not BLM, not a black leader, not Melo or any other minority. The white majority still creates and control the US. If there are real good cops, then prosecute the bad cops. If there are real non-racist whites, then prevent the racist whites from creating and running a system that discriminates.

I applaud her for standing up and placing herself on an island. Its not the easiest thing to do but its the right thing to do.

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stop at the light mayne,
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258. "note to OE: this is what actual influence looks like"
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yes, i'm trolling, but still.

Also, Team Rapinhoe.

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259. "this reads awful. Like just terrible. Offputting. "
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>Also, Team Rapinhoe.

  

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260. "yeah it does. My bad and I apologize"
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Don't know how I messed it up like that, but it was unintentional

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262. "i thought your argument was that these things shouldn't be agenda-ized"
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maybe i read it wrong though. to me it seems sensible, there is no olympics of difference making. it's a threshold matter of associating with the struggle or being content to live comfortably.

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264. "Owner of the NWSL's Washington Spirit coming for the crown"
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of Biggest Dipshit In The Field Of Anthemhumping. Shout out to their (soon to be former) social media person, though.

https://twitter.com/JeffKassouf/status/773669540471443456/photo/1

http://screamer.deadspin.com/grandstanding-nwsl-owner-plays-national-anthem-early-to-1786357322

Megan Rapinoe’s Seattle Reign traveled to Washington D.C. to play the Washington Spirit tonight. It’s the Reign’s first game since Rapinoe knelt in solidarity with Colin Kaepernick last weekend. She expected to kneel again tonight, but she didn’t get a chance to, as Washington played the national anthem while the teams were still in the locker room.

The team’s owner, Bill Lynch, said that he decided to silence Rapinoe’s protest because he didn’t want to “subject our fans and friends to the disrespect such an act would represent.” He also made a point of going at Rapinoe for having the gall to “hijack this tradition that means so much to millions of Americans.” Here’s his full statement.

As many have, Lynch is trying to make the leap between Rapinoe and Kaepernick’s protest with disrespect for the military. That is either a misreading or a deliberate falsehood. Rapinoe has been very specific about why she is choosing to kneel, and she also called out people who’ve tried to make a protest about police brutality and systemic racism into something it’s not. Lynch, like others who’ve focused more on the perceived inconveniences of protesting the national anthem than the substance, has nothing to say about why Rapinoe is protesting the national anthem, and to shut her voice down while promoting his own views is very disingenuous. He said he wants to “avoid taking focus away from the game,” and yet he’s the one releasing longform statements about respect.

Thankfully, the Spirit’s Twitter account wasn’t having it, and someone with the keys to the team’s Twitter sent out this glorious fuck you.

https://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/image/upload/s--Tj1Qn1_j--/c_scale,fl_progressive,q_80,w_800/dd53kckoezhzqfhbhofl.jpg

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