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""Manufactured" artists that did not make it "


  

          

Many of us always talk about the "manufactured" stars out there who become major artists and even icons. The ones mentioned are usually women, which is another topic, but those such as Madonna, Rihanna, Beyonce, even Aaliyah and Ashanti.

As much as we talk about them as if it discredits their talent...we know that there are a thousand other artists who were given the same type of mold and didn't succeed for other reasons.

Who are some of these artists that you can think of who were almost "add water and stir" and should have made some impact, but failed? It can be R&B, Pop, Rock, or Rap.

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RE: "Manufactured" artists that did not make it
Feb 27th 2012
1
Yea I know it's been a milli...so I guess you can mention some that
Feb 27th 2012
3
      RE: Yea I know it's been a milli...so I guess you can mention some that
Feb 27th 2012
4
           They haven't really pushed anybody else on YM though, Tyga is
Feb 27th 2012
6
                RE: They haven't really pushed anybody else on YM though, Tyga is
Jul 26th 2013
155
JoJo was fucking awesome.
Feb 27th 2012
2
Ironic timing...
Feb 27th 2012
5
there's a remix of "marvin's room" with her & chris brown.
May 17th 2012
101
have you seen her recently, she got HOT
May 17th 2012
102
Pretty much 95% of the people who were on music competition
Feb 27th 2012
7
I don't think they got the opportunity to be manufactured though
Feb 27th 2012
8
      RE: I don't think they got the opportunity to be manufactured though
Feb 27th 2012
9
           RE: I don't think they got the opportunity to be manufactured though
Feb 29th 2012
44
"manufactured" has a lot of variance in interpretation...
Feb 27th 2012
10
Good response for sure
Feb 28th 2012
28
The same Mobb...
Feb 28th 2012
29
      Wow, I do remember their very first video/single and thinkin back to
Feb 28th 2012
31
           yeah...lol
Feb 28th 2012
38
Hey man, that Myron album jammed.
May 13th 2012
60
co-sign
May 16th 2012
90
yeah, i was bout to say Myron was a badd dude....
May 16th 2012
91
yes indeed. I listened to Destiny last week.
May 16th 2012
95
MYRON'S 2nd CD "Free" was better damn good!
Feb 18th 2013
132
Willa Ford?
Feb 27th 2012
11
eagle eyed cherry was a cash-in on lenny kravitz
Feb 27th 2012
12
His first album had some really good songs
Feb 28th 2012
27
No it wasn't.
Jun 06th 2012
115
Nonsense
Jun 06th 2012
116
Christina Milian & Mya
Feb 27th 2012
13
either of them should have Rihanna's spot
Feb 28th 2012
33
RE: either of them should have Rihanna's spot
Feb 29th 2012
45
i hear thats what happened
May 14th 2012
76
wasn't she fucking with Dre (cool n dre) at that point?
May 17th 2012
103
      yep
May 20th 2012
112
RE: Christina Milian & Mya
May 15th 2012
87
RE: Christina Milian & Mya
Feb 18th 2013
133
Boogie Monsters = The Pharcyde
Feb 27th 2012
14
RE: Boogie Monsters = The Pharcyde
Feb 27th 2012
15
true
Feb 27th 2012
16
rapalot had a lot of cash-ins...
Feb 27th 2012
17
      Oh man...
Feb 27th 2012
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      RE: Oh man...
Feb 27th 2012
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           RE: Oh man...
Feb 27th 2012
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                RE: Oh man...
Feb 27th 2012
21
                     It had a few unreleased 2Pac songs on it...
Feb 27th 2012
23
                          That Soopafly I think "Like it or not" got L.A. radio play too
Feb 27th 2012
24
      again, that Blac Monks ablum jammed.
May 13th 2012
61
Let's not forget Questionmark Asylum they were just a slightly more
May 14th 2012
67
Ain't gonna lie
May 14th 2012
66
janelle monae
Feb 27th 2012
22
I feel she tries to go too many damn directions
Feb 27th 2012
25
RE: janelle monae
Feb 28th 2012
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RE: janelle monae
Feb 28th 2012
30
      I'd hope not! Only Prince can get away with being that damn weird
Feb 28th 2012
32
           RE: I'd hope not! Only Prince can get away with being that damn weird
Feb 28th 2012
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                RE: I'd hope not! Only Prince can get away with being that damn weird
Feb 28th 2012
40
didn't make it? despite the fact she has number 1 song on iTunes 9 weeks...
May 13th 2012
51
      And making one of the better albums of the last 5 years
May 14th 2012
68
      that ain't her song though.
May 14th 2012
71
Yellawolf
Feb 28th 2012
34
his music jumped the radio shark too
Feb 28th 2012
36
how was he manufactured?
May 13th 2012
56
yelawolf's success is indirectly connected to krit
May 14th 2012
77
Nicole Wray. Olivia. And if you wanna go really old,
Feb 28th 2012
35
Damn who's Barbara Randolph?
Feb 28th 2012
37
This is Barbara Randolph:
May 13th 2012
47
Nicole Wray was manufactured to be _____??
May 16th 2012
93
      She was manufactured to be an R&B/pop artist in the
May 19th 2012
109
           that's Missy tried to do on that first album
May 19th 2012
110
                yessir. hence the "all the way" comment.
Jun 06th 2012
114
Madaonna as manufactured?
Feb 28th 2012
41
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Feb 18th 2013
128
Smilez-N-Southstar.
Feb 28th 2012
42
^^^this is our winnar!!! nm
May 13th 2012
63
anastasia, lumidee, amerie, cherokee, rez
Feb 29th 2012
43
Shyne? Loon?
Feb 29th 2012
46
Three months and no one thought to mention TORREY CARTER?
May 13th 2012
48
Would Kim Weston count?
May 13th 2012
49
was Me Phi Me the answer to Arrested Development?
May 13th 2012
50
wait til y'all see what Dr Dre got coming up next
May 13th 2012
52
RE: wait til y'all see what Dr Dre got coming up next
May 13th 2012
54
World Class Wrecking Crew reunion tour?
May 13th 2012
58
lmao
May 14th 2012
69
WTH??? I can't even halfway call it
May 13th 2012
62
he can keep that Hologram Eazy if that's what it is.
May 14th 2012
72
He'll probably put MJ and Tupac on a track with those Black Hippy kids
May 14th 2012
73
"Detox" Is On Hold, That Shit Is A Living Corpse In The Waiting
May 19th 2012
104
*flashbacks of D'angelo* No....not this time, quest. NOT THIS TIME.
May 19th 2012
108
hologram CD stands of Detox. people looking like this:
Jun 06th 2012
117
Kendrick Lamar?
Feb 17th 2013
123
Genius he is, lol
Feb 18th 2013
126
lol
Feb 20th 2013
150
this post obviously wasn't referring to Kendrick or
Jul 26th 2013
153
considering 15's knack for hyperbole
Jul 26th 2013
154
RE: this post obviously wasn't referring to Kendrick or
Jul 26th 2013
156
i hate when you do this
Aug 01st 2013
159
Who's still poppin from any season of Making The Band?
May 13th 2012
53
slightly off topic: I was SURE Rihanna wasn't gonna be anything.
May 13th 2012
55
I never thought about it but figured she'd be another one that made
May 13th 2012
64
RE: slightly off topic: I was SURE Rihanna wasn't gonna be anything.
May 14th 2012
83
Yung Berg
May 13th 2012
57
Brotherly Love - a group Holland-Dozier-Holland put together
May 13th 2012
59
Lil' Zane
May 14th 2012
65
so you're telling me
May 14th 2012
70
I didn't want you to find out this way.
May 14th 2012
75
You mean celebriTEEEEEEEE
May 14th 2012
80
      lmao
May 31st 2012
113
RE: Lil' Zane
May 16th 2012
92
I wanna say Sum41, D4L and Guerilla Black
May 14th 2012
74
Lol awww @ Guerilla Black.
May 14th 2012
79
Hmm would we call D4L manufactured? Interesting
May 14th 2012
81
      I always thought they were a Dem Franchize Boys ripoff
May 14th 2012
84
           I honestly thought that was the same group.
May 15th 2012
89
                LOL. Their singles were identical for sure, but D4L "Scotty" is CLASSIC
May 16th 2012
94
Nina Sky
May 14th 2012
78
they released some interesting tracks recently
May 14th 2012
85
The Flatlinerz
May 14th 2012
82
The Flatlinerz Gets My Vote
May 19th 2012
105
Rockwilder's production was kinda nice once you got past the gimmick
Feb 17th 2013
119
the first name i thought of was
May 14th 2012
86
shit...throw lil mama in there too.
May 17th 2012
97
I think a definition of manufactured should have been given.
May 15th 2012
88
Miri Ben-Ari...the hip hop violinist!
May 17th 2012
96
The joint with Scarface on her album is one of my favourites.
May 17th 2012
98
Elektrik Red & RichGirl come immediately to mind.
May 17th 2012
99
Several of those wannabe Jackson 5 black boy bands of the 90's.
May 17th 2012
100
I ALWAYS clown my younger homegirls who liked Imajin
May 20th 2012
111
The Hoodratz, Another Bad Creation, Quo, Paperboy, The Puppies
May 19th 2012
106
damn aint heard paperboy in a minute...
May 19th 2012
107
This nigga said 'quo'
Feb 17th 2013
122
RE: "Manufactured" artists that did not make it
Jun 06th 2012
118
having been around Storch from during this period, there was NO way
Feb 17th 2013
120
How many singles did they try to break her with...
Feb 17th 2013
121
I remember one with T.I. and one with will.i.am.
Feb 17th 2013
124
      She apparently released an album internationally but...
Feb 18th 2013
127
What were her issues? To me, none of her songs HIT like that. I liked
Feb 18th 2013
130
Johnbook once said that Nicole never took off
Feb 19th 2013
141
That can be said for a lot of people, but... I still feel the same way
Feb 20th 2013
146
didn't she turn down "We Found Love" she has no ear, or her A&R
Aug 01st 2013
158
Nikka Costa
Feb 18th 2013
125
didn't she have
Feb 18th 2013
129
not sure
Feb 18th 2013
131
but was she...?
Feb 18th 2013
135
Ha!
Feb 18th 2013
134
Speak on it
Feb 19th 2013
139
india.aire
Feb 18th 2013
136
^^ Correct answer.
Aug 01st 2013
160
Kreayshaun
Feb 18th 2013
137
NO
Feb 19th 2013
138
      RE: NO
Feb 19th 2013
140
           She wasn't really manufactered
Feb 19th 2013
142
                RE: She wasn't really manufactered
Feb 20th 2013
147
Them jackson boys 3T.
Feb 19th 2013
143
Highland Place Mobsters
Feb 20th 2013
144
Tamar Braxton. The Braxtons.
Feb 20th 2013
145
O-Town
Feb 20th 2013
148
eden's crush
Feb 20th 2013
149
B5 and Young Joc
Feb 20th 2013
151
RE: "Manufactured" artists that did not make it
Apr 01st 2013
152
Was Madonna manufactured?
Jul 26th 2013
157

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1. "RE: "Manufactured" artists that did not make it "
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Man.....its so many. Most one hit wonders are "manufatured" to me thats why it was one hit and then..............peace ...lol..

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3. "Yea I know it's been a milli...so I guess you can mention some that"
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you would have actually put stock in like "they're up NEXT!" Even if it's like a Jaguar Wright type

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4. "RE: Yea I know it's been a milli...so I guess you can mention some that"
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Dirty Money, Day 26, Donnie, The Band and Danity Kane...ok...that is Puff's stable

All of Young Money outside of Drake, Wayne and Minaj

I have more to come........these are some that were truly made out of cereal and milk..lol

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6. "They haven't really pushed anybody else on YM though, Tyga is"
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not gonna be nearly as big as them but he's doing good for his lane.

I was def thinking about EVERY group from "Making the band" though

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155. "RE: They haven't really pushed anybody else on YM though, Tyga is"
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all the pop shit...

Colby O Donnis
Jay Sean
The weird chick with black and blonde hair

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2. "JoJo was fucking awesome."
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>Many of us always talk about the "manufactured" stars out
>there who become major artists and even icons. The ones
>mentioned are usually women, which is another topic, but those
>such as Madonna, Rihanna, Beyonce, even Aaliyah and Ashanti.
>
>As much as we talk about them as if it discredits their
>talent...we know that there are a thousand other artists who
>were given the same type of mold and didn't succeed for other
>reasons.
>
>Who are some of these artists that you can think of who were
>almost "add water and stir" and should have made some impact,
>but failed? It can be R&B, Pop, Rock, or Rap.

It's probably one of the few times I can say this; her being white was a disadvantage.

Her album was just a dash too r&b for a period where pop scarlets were keeping not r&b outside of the first single, lol.

  

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5. "Ironic timing..."
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just last week I was at the gym and a new(er) video of hers was on one of the TVs and I was thinking to myself "shit, I forgot she existed". Cause I remember back in like 06 or 07 my guilty pleasure was that I loved her track "Too Little Too Late" and thought that she was gonna be something pretty decent ---- and then I literally never heard a thing from her or about her again until just last week at the gym.

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101. "there's a remix of "marvin's room" with her & chris brown."
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she's sooooo made for R&B radio...if anybody could make money being this generation's poor imitation of teena marie, it's JoJo. she could have straight R&B hits for years, i tell ya.

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102. "have you seen her recently, she got HOT"
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and she can still sing... I'm def still rooting for her

  

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7. "Pretty much 95% of the people who were on music competition"
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or reality tv shows (American Idol, Making The Band, etc.)

  

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8. "I don't think they got the opportunity to be manufactured though"
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I guess I'm referring to those who the companies pushed, threw in commercials, magazines, gave em guest features, etc etc etc

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9. "RE: I don't think they got the opportunity to be manufactured though"
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To me Big Sean. I guess he has a lane but I dont see him being around long.

Pusha T ....Kanye gave him and Sean spot in the light...not sure how long or if they will be relevant a year from now..I know Pusha has Clipse fame to fall back on though...

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44. "RE: I don't think they got the opportunity to be manufactured though"
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man, i remember Big Sean doing a show on my school's quad in 2009 for literally 14 people, 8 of which came to seem my homie open for him.

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10. ""manufactured" has a lot of variance in interpretation..."
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there are/were lots of acts who were a label's answer to ____'s popularity through similar sound/image/packing & presentation.

for example, MYRON, was an oft, if not totally forgotten act (by anyone under 35) that was island records answer to d'angelo/maxwell/raphael saadiq.

and remember all those kid rap groups from 91/92?
da youngstaz, illegal, mobb deep, etc.
they were various labels cash-in on the success of kris-kross.
who, was jermaine durpi's cash-in on the success of michael bivens' group another bad creation.

da brat was jermaine dupri's answer to snoop dogg.
"funkdafied" was their answer to "nothin but a g thang"
and lil romeo was master p's answer to the success of lil bow wow.

choppa (not to be confused with the guy who works jos. a bank) was master p's very thinly-veiled answer to nelly.

j. cole was imo jay-z's answer to drake/charles hamilton (who still had priority with jimmy in those days).

foxy brown was def jam's answer to lil kim, who they luckily launched at exactly the same time kim herself was preparing her debut album, confusing the "who came first?" question to anyone not paying attention.

L was def jam's early answer to mc shan

chubb rock, dare i say was somebody at a label's answer to heavy d, despite being talented in his own right.

the beastie boys were a white cash-in on run-dmc's sound a la new edition -> new kids on the block.

ditto for public enemy -> 3rd base.

nwa had enough differences to avoid comparisons but they were obviously inspired by the beastie boys & public enemy.
this is especially apparent if you've ever heard any old dr. dre mixtapes or ice cube's group C.I.A.

i mean i could keep going ("oh my god keep going!!" © just blaze) but the bigger issue is simple cause & effect in music/the music industry.
and the attempt to calculate and minimize risk on... art. lol.
but usually when something makes an impact and succeeds to some degree there will be cash-ins, other label's "answer" to the popularity.
in the 00's mainstream rap music was almost exclusively made up of that sonically because of how lucrative it had become after the late 90's.

  

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28. "Good response for sure"
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>there are/were lots of acts who were a label's answer to
>____'s popularity through similar sound/image/packing &
>presentation.
>
>for example, MYRON, was an oft, if not totally forgotten act
>(by anyone under 35) that was island records answer to
>d'angelo/maxwell/raphael saadiq.

Shit, I remember the name and that's it.

>and remember all those kid rap groups from 91/92?
>da youngstaz, illegal, mobb deep, etc.
>they were various labels cash-in on the success of
>kris-kross.
>who, was jermaine durpi's cash-in on the success of michael
>bivens' group another bad creation.

I don't even remember those rip off groups LOL...was this Mobb Deep different from Prodigy and Havoc?? I assume so

>da brat was jermaine dupri's answer to snoop dogg.
>"funkdafied" was their answer to "nothin but a g thang"
>and lil romeo was master p's answer to the success of lil bow
>wow.

Yep Romeo was a direct response, even though I feel he would have come out anyway. Master P did have a group "Lil soldiers" the year before Bow Wow dropped. And Brat was a female Snoop, dope as hell tho

>choppa (not to be confused with the guy who works jos. a bank)
>was master p's very thinly-veiled answer to nelly.

Hmm you think so? Thing that's interesting is that people say Nelly stole that New Orleans bounce singing style, and Choppa was actually from New Orleans, so a lot of folks felt he was more authentic.

>j. cole was imo jay-z's answer to drake/charles hamilton (who
>still had priority with jimmy in those days).

Hmm possibly so

>foxy brown was def jam's answer to lil kim, who they luckily
>launched at exactly the same time kim herself was preparing
>her debut album, confusing the "who came first?" question to
>anyone not paying attention.

Crazy to think, and I didn't realize sales were SO close til an article a few months ago that talked about their rivalry and Nicki. They were basically even.

>L was def jam's early answer to mc shan

WTF, never knew that

>chubb rock, dare i say was somebody at a label's answer to
>heavy d, despite being talented in his own right.

Wow, aside from the name, I can definitely see the similarity.

>the beastie boys were a white cash-in on run-dmc's sound a la
>new edition -> new kids on the block.

Hmm, possibly so yeah.

>ditto for public enemy -> 3rd base.

Never thought about that

>nwa had enough differences to avoid comparisons but they were
>obviously inspired by the beastie boys & public enemy.
>this is especially apparent if you've ever heard any old dr.
>dre mixtapes or ice cube's group C.I.A.

NWA was together right when PE became big, right? I know the CIA music sounded a LOOOT like NWA, especially how Cube was rapping, talkin about "the girlies" n that

>i mean i could keep going ("oh my god keep going!!" © just
>blaze) but the bigger issue is simple cause & effect in
>music/the music industry.
>and the attempt to calculate and minimize risk on... art.
>lol.
>but usually when something makes an impact and succeeds to
>some degree there will be cash-ins, other label's "answer" to
>the popularity.
>in the 00's mainstream rap music was almost exclusively made
>up of that sonically because of how lucrative it had become
>after the late 90's.
>

I'd also add Miracle who I felt was a DIRECT response to Mystikal and Drama.

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29. "The same Mobb..."
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It is referring to their Juvenile Hell album, before they found their lane with the Infamous. Even though you could hear the potential, they were just thrown in with a bunch of dope producers that probably just mailed in beats for them.

  

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31. "Wow, I do remember their very first video/single and thinkin back to"
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it, it did feel kinda Kris Kross...like young kiddy street, and they were really dancing like them too. Shit

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38. "yeah...lol"
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yeah that was funny as shit, since they had a couple of years up on those guys.

  

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60. "Hey man, that Myron album jammed. "
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you're probably right, but still...

other than that, I agree/am indifferent about everything else you posted...

  

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90. "co-sign"
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91. "yeah, i was bout to say Myron was a badd dude...."
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"Destiny" was cold, as was the whole debut, and his stuff with "the Works" is slammin too

...i never thought of him being manufactured in THAT way tho

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95. "yes indeed. I listened to Destiny last week."
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"This is dedicated to whom it may concern."-Donny Hathaway

  

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132. "MYRON'S 2nd CD "Free" was better damn good!"
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11. "Willa Ford?"
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phemom's the name, all-star writer/
searching 4 journalistic fame, mindframe igniter....www.twitter.com/hayabusaage

  

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12. "eagle eyed cherry was a cash-in on lenny kravitz"
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but he didn't have the jawline to withstand the heat after his 2nd single fizzled.

  

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27. "His first album had some really good songs"
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115. "No it wasn't."
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116. "Nonsense"
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Not the same type of music at all. Eagle-Eye wasn't a retro-rocker but rather a "MOR 90's rock" guy.

  

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13. "Christina Milian & Mya"
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There was a promise, but,,,,,,

  

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33. "either of them should have Rihanna's spot"
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much sexier and that's all that matters to me when you're music is that plain

I'm sure either of them could sing Umbrella

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45. "RE: either of them should have Rihanna's spot"
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>much sexier and that's all that matters to me when you're
>music is that plain
>
>I'm sure either of them could sing Umbrella

I don't know if they necessarily fit the topic of the post, but yea, both those girls just need hits to sing & they'd be there. only problem is Mya's 32, Milian's 30 & Rihanna's only 24. it may not sound like much, but Rihanna gets that 16-25 "I'm an independent woman" x ratchet girls crowd

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76. "i hear thats what happened"
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milan choose that record with young jeezy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jpU0QVpg3Mk

instead of this rihanna record 'sos': http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IXmF4GbA86E

after that defjam dropped her

  

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103. "wasn't she fucking with Dre (cool n dre) at that point? "
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Say I was kinda big tho, obviously no SOS

  

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112. "yep"
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she bucked at 'SOS' because she wanted to be hood
when SOS got huge they got rid of her.
folks said she was mad diva-ish because of her acting career and rihanna had the potential to be a bigger star, which ended up being true

  

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87. "RE: Christina Milian & Mya"
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I'd argue that Mya made it. Well, to a point. She was doing really well for herself, and then she kind of disappeared. She came out when R&B and pop weren't so intertwined, but it isn't like ol' girl didn't have a few albums that did pretty well.

  

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133. "RE: Christina Milian & Mya"
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>There was a promise, but,,,,,,


Nah...Mya has actual hits and albums that sold...She had the success she was supposed to have....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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14. "Boogie Monsters = The Pharcyde"
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that was a decent album to me too.

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Truths run marathons.

  

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15. "RE: Boogie Monsters = The Pharcyde"
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>that was a decent album to me too.

odd squad = the pharcyde
yall so stupid = the pharcyde
wascalz = the phracyde

the pharcyde had a ton of people cashing in.
just evidences how original they were.

  

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16. "true"
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-

Lies run sprints.
Truths run marathons.

  

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17. "rapalot had a lot of cash-ins..."
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remember the blac monks after bone thugs n harmony blew up?
they had a bunch of others...
no limit too.
and then remember death row's comeback strategy circa 1998/1999?
knock-offs of their biggest rappers in top dogg and the realest?
what a business man suge knight was... lol.
he seemed determined to single-handedly kill off their massive white dollar market share as quickly as he could.
did you know the chronic 2000 went PLATINUM? lol.
but everything after that...? yeah.

  

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18. "Oh man..."
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that whole Top Dogg shit was laughable then and even more laughable in retrospect. I had blocked that whole shit out of my mind. Thanks for the reminder, haha.

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19. "RE: Oh man..."
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>that whole Top Dogg shit was laughable then and even more
>laughable in retrospect. I blocked that out of my mind. Thanks
>for the reminder, haha.


the bigger picture though...

suge knight represents the chronic 2000 sold over a million copies.
like put that into perspective, the biggest rap album today barely scraps over 1.0-1.5.
suge knight, with a roster of nobodies and knock-offs of his own former successes sold a million fucking records with no single in rotation.

definitely "different" times.
how many of their pre-established white fanbase do you think bought that album and then never bought another death row or even another rap album ever again?

  

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20. "RE: Oh man..."
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Yea I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that there was a lot of noise on the internet and stuff about how Dre had to change the title of his album cause of Suge and Death Row...and also just the Death Row name which still resonated in the industry to a certain degree. But you're right - crazy that it sold like it did regardless, especially considering what you said about the label being a bunch of no names/wanna-be's and shit like that.

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21. "RE: Oh man..."
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>Yea I think a lot of that had to do with the fact that there
>was a lot of noise on the internet and stuff about how Dre had
>to change the title of his album cause of Suge and Death
>Row...and also just the Death Row name which still resonated
>in the industry to a certain degree. But you're right - crazy
>that it sold like it did regardless, especially considering
>what you said about the label being a bunch of no
>names/wanna-be's and shit like that.

it had NO single in national video/radio rotation either.
it sold purely on the reputation of the name of the chronic/death row.
that album should be listed in chapter 1 of how to kill your fanbase off in as few moves as possible.

  

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23. "It had a few unreleased 2Pac songs on it..."
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...at a time where independents were releasing anything they had with Pac on it. That definitely accounted for a lot of sales. Quiks Late Night was dope, and the only track I can remember off hand from Chronic 2000

  

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24. "That Soopafly I think "Like it or not" got L.A. radio play too"
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61. "again, that Blac Monks ablum jammed. "
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I always figured them for a Gravediggaz rip-off though...

  

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67. "Let's not forget Questionmark Asylum they were just a slightly more"
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>>that was a decent album to me too.
>
>odd squad = the pharcyde
>yall so stupid = the pharcyde
>wascalz = the phracyde
>
>the pharcyde had a ton of people cashing in.
>just evidences how original they were.

hip version of Pharcyde to me.
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66. "Ain't gonna lie"
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I bought their cd after hearing 'honeydrips in gotham'.

  

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22. "janelle monae"
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Has she deaded dat corny "robotic" schtick yet?

  

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25. "I feel she tries to go too many damn directions"
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And I'm not the type who likes that hybrid style. Just give me straight Soul/R&B, or straight Rock, or shit straight Blue grass. But all at once is too much. "Say you'll go" is greatness, and "Neon Valley Street" is pretty dope. But a lot of her songs did too much to hit me.

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26. "RE: janelle monae"
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what makes her manufactured?

dude

  

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30. "RE: janelle monae"
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Could be that eclectic/hipster vibe she tends to portray through her image. Just doesn't seem honest, like does she behave like that in real life!?!

  

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32. "I'd hope not! Only Prince can get away with being that damn weird"
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39. "RE: I'd hope not! Only Prince can get away with being that damn weird"
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even that, prince was still grounded.

  

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40. "RE: I'd hope not! Only Prince can get away with being that damn weird"
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>even that, prince was still grounded.


man i saw her around atl before she released her first albums and she was the same way,

someone said about lenny kravitz he seem to be overwhelmed by his influences i kind of feel the same about her

she has talent but is just trying to hard

dude

  

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51. "didn't make it? despite the fact she has number 1 song on iTunes 9 weeks..."
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NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
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"Night Moves"
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68. "And making one of the better albums of the last 5 years"
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71. "that ain't her song though."
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fuck you.

  

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34. "Yellawolf"
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not that he isnt talented. but the second he got on Shady. He was so non-subtley shoved down our throats by every major publication, and no one bit.

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36. "his music jumped the radio shark too"
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Radioactive is a trainwreck compared to Trunk Muzik, though that 0-60 rerelease showed some signs it was possible he could fall off.

at least he got his paper.


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56. "how was he manufactured?"
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**********
I should put that in a song

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The avatar is old. And, no, that hat was not a groovy style back then, either.

  

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77. "yelawolf's success is indirectly connected to krit"
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and krit has yet to reach potential, so yela is gonna obviously be underachieving
yela, rittz, & jackie chain success rode to strong on krits success
b.o.b. went completely pop to break out

  

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35. "Nicole Wray. Olivia. And if you wanna go really old,"
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Barbara Randolph.

  

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37. "Damn who's Barbara Randolph?"
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47. "This is Barbara Randolph:"
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Randolph

She was an actress (best known for a bit part as the assistant maid in "Guest Who's Coming to Dinner?") and a singer. She spent most of her career as a fill-in or replacement for other artists in group acts: she replaced Zola Taylor in The Platters, and was signed to Motown to replace Diana Ross in The Supremes in 1966.

When Berry Gordy decided to keep Ross in the group a while longer (she was finally pulled out in 1969), the plan then shifted to possibly hiring Randolph to replace Flo Ballard. Ross didn't like Randolph, so they snatched Cindy Birdsong from Patti LaBelle & the Blue-Belles instead.

Now technically without a purpose for being singed to Motown (a solo female singer on Motown in that era was more or less ignored as far as development and getting good records went in favor of Diana Ross - Martha Reeves and Gladys Knight will tell you that), Randolph briefly subbed for Tammi Terrell on the road with Marvin Gaye after Terrell fell ill. She recorded a few sides for Motown's Soul label (both A-sides were covers of stock H-D-H tunes: "I Got a Feeling" and "Can I Get a Witness") and faded into obscurity. This is her version of "I Got a Feeling", which I prefer to the Four Tops' hit version:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV_cs-T2Y-Q&feature=topics

More random trivia: her adoptive mother is Lillian Randolph, a radio/film actress from the 1940s probably best infamously remembered today as the voice of the black maid in the "Tom & Jerry " cartoons.

  

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93. "Nicole Wray was manufactured to be _____??"
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...i'm not saying she was the most original, and that she didn't have help finding her own voice, but...c'mon son....

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109. "She was manufactured to be an R&B/pop artist in the"
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Missy Elliott mode.

Missy actually has a long line of artists she's run through (heh)where she's writing and producing most/all of their material, they're signed to her label, and pay a lot of dues singing backup on her albums. Granted, a lot of these girls were talented, but they didn't have their own sound or style. They had Missy's.

Tweet and Jazmine Sullivan are the only two of the bunch with enough of their own style to not fall (all the way) into the Missy Elliott trap/curse.

  

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110. "that's Missy tried to do on that first album"
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....and she still does that with Jasmine, please don't think she isn't....AND Tweet....but the Nicole Wray music after the first record isn't as Missy driven, and even on the first album she has her own voice .....

...if anyone is Missy's musical new mouthpiece it's Jasmine...look at what she was doing b4 missy came around thaen after...it's night and day....

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114. "yessir. hence the "all the way" comment."
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41. "Madaonna as manufactured?"
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she was artsy-fartsy-slumming it in the downtown scene in NY late70s-ealry80s.

if i'm wrong i wont care, i just see her making her self what she is with label help. if that's manufactured, than all gold acts are

  

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128. "^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^"
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42. "Smilez-N-Southstar."
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63. "^^^this is our winnar!!! nm"
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43. "anastasia, lumidee, amerie, cherokee, rez"
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46. "Shyne? Loon?"
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Weren't they supposed to bethe ones to bring Bad Boy into the new millenium?

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48. "Three months and no one thought to mention TORREY CARTER?"
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AKA Missy Elliott's answer to her old pal Ginuwine?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1evg6lgL2Rc

  

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49. "Would Kim Weston count?"
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50. "was Me Phi Me the answer to Arrested Development?"
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remember that dude?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jLnmHa_k3Y0

https://www.instagram.com/christiancgarrido/

Hussein ibn Malik "if he escaped on a horse he might be realest nigga ever, EVER..2013 Nat Turner with the burner"

MaxPtah "Django is real homie.."

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52. "wait til y'all see what Dr Dre got coming up next"
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his "trick" 3 weeks ago in cali was just appetizer.

THIS will be either his most controversial move and a stroke of genius and what he'll be know for

or the greatest fail of his life.

THIS is why detox is on hold

NO! LIST
Tom Petty
M J
Zeppelin
Springsteen
Neil Young
Eagles
Ray Charles
Madonna
Chuck Berry
South Park TV Songs
Justin Timberlake
"Food Glorious Food"
"Twilight Zone" theme
"A Boy Named Sue"
"Night Moves"
"The Situation"
"Superbowl Shuffle"

  

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54. "RE: wait til y'all see what Dr Dre got coming up next"
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lemme guess
guest verses from Tupac / Eazy-E on Detox
2pac / Eazy-E holograms goes on Detox tour?

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58. "World Class Wrecking Crew reunion tour?"
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69. "lmao"
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62. "WTH??? I can't even halfway call it"
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72. "he can keep that Hologram Eazy if that's what it is."
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fuck you.

  

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73. "He'll probably put MJ and Tupac on a track with those Black Hippy kids"
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104. ""Detox" Is On Hold, That Shit Is A Living Corpse In The Waiting"
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>THIS is why detox is on hold

Dre had mad years and revamps to put out a dozen "Detox" albums/compilations, why add a new reason/excuse to why he's so-called putting it on hold...again.


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108. "*flashbacks of D'angelo* No....not this time, quest. NOT THIS TIME."
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117. "hologram CD stands of Detox. people looking like this:"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bq2F-UBvjcc

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123. "Kendrick Lamar? "
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https://soundcloud.com/swageyph/yph-die-with-me

  

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126. "Genius he is, lol"
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150. "lol"
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153. "this post obviously wasn't referring to Kendrick or "
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Beats By Dre headphones...I wonder what it was referring to.

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154. "considering 15's knack for hyperbole"
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I think it could still be Kendrick. The interesting thing is just that Dre played it lowkey.

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156. "RE: this post obviously wasn't referring to Kendrick or "
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probably something that got shelved...

He tried detox with 3 diff singles right? no one cared

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159. "i hate when you do this"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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53. "Who's still poppin from any season of Making The Band?"
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55. "slightly off topic: I was SURE Rihanna wasn't gonna be anything."
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Idk why but one day her pon de replay song was on and I mentioned to someone I can't see her lasting at all.

<<<<<<<Wrong as shit.

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64. "I never thought about it but figured she'd be another one that made"
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a few songs you'd see shown on college TV stations with a few semi hits, but NOTHING like she is now. I wouldn't have even saw her getting as big as Mya

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83. "RE: slightly off topic: I was SURE Rihanna wasn't gonna be anything."
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i thought for sure she was going to be a one hit wonder.

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57. "Yung Berg"
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**********
I should put that in a song

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The avatar is old. And, no, that hat was not a groovy style back then, either.

  

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59. "Brotherly Love - a group Holland-Dozier-Holland put together"
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for their Invictus label that was a direct answer to a certain family band who was hot on Motown at the time:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2HmN0x7a9X4

  

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65. "Lil' Zane"
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He ended up fucking himself and getting ethered by Usher's mom on the radio back in the day. Then trolled by Tyler, The Creator recently.

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70. "so you're telling me"
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that he doesn't live the life of a celebrity?
and he's not way bigger than them other cats i love to see?

  

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75. "I didn't want you to find out this way."
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80. "You mean celebriTEEEEEEEE "
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92. "RE: Lil' Zane"
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>He ended up fucking himself and getting ethered by Usher's
>mom on the radio back in the day. Then trolled by Tyler, The
>Creator recently.

they're the same dude? i thought lil zane was somewhere workin a reg 9-5 by now...

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74. "I wanna say Sum41, D4L and Guerilla Black"
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as the top 3 perpetrators of the last decade or so.

  

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79. "Lol awww @ Guerilla Black."
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Niggas publishing probably all goes to the artists voices he bit.

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81. "Hmm would we call D4L manufactured? Interesting"
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84. "I always thought they were a Dem Franchize Boys ripoff"
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I might have that shit backwards, but nobody would care.

  

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89. "I honestly thought that was the same group."
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http://www.last.fm/user/_CondoM_/

  

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94. "LOL. Their singles were identical for sure, but D4L "Scotty" is CLASSIC"
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78. "Nina Sky"
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85. "they released some interesting tracks recently"
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cant remember off the top of my head, but they adopted a way different sound

  

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82. "The Flatlinerz"
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Def Jam's first - and last - hope for horrorcore.

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105. "The Flatlinerz Gets My Vote"
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I was thinking about them when I read this post, yeah they're up there as being a manufactured rap group.


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119. "Rockwilder's production was kinda nice once you got past the gimmick"
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86. "the first name i thought of was"
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Nicole Sherzinger. I know she and the Pussycat Dolls had the 'Girlfriend' song, but she never did anything close to the numbers her hype might suggest she was worthy of.

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97. "shit...throw lil mama in there too."
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http://sonofbyford.com

  

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88. "I think a definition of manufactured should have been given."
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People are kind of going all over the place with this.
I mean some are spot on, but others...

  

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96. "Miri Ben-Ari...the hip hop violinist!"
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And Cowboy Troy...the Cowboy Rapper.

Man, this list should be ten thousand bodies deep.

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98. "The joint with Scarface on her album is one of my favourites."
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I remember stanning for her hard back then, her album cover was my avatar on allhiphop. I forgot she existed a few weeks later.

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99. "Elektrik Red & RichGirl come immediately to mind."
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Go Smack yourself and then apologize to your hand for looking stupid - Case_One

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100. "Several of those wannabe Jackson 5 black boy bands of the 90's."
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Imajin comes immmediately to mind, as does 3T.

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111. "I ALWAYS clown my younger homegirls who liked Imajin"
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I can't name a single song they made

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106. "The Hoodratz, Another Bad Creation, Quo, Paperboy, The Puppies"
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The list goes on and on when it comes to rap artists and groups the record label will find or put together to capitalize off a sound/trend.


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107. "damn aint heard paperboy in a minute..."
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word to the box

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122. "This nigga said 'quo' "
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wow

  

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118. "RE: "Manufactured" artists that did not make it "
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2 things...

ALL stars are manufactured. Nothing goes from the womb to stardom. When you get into the major system you are refined until you are a perfect product. Might have a smash song but no image, might sing your ass off but no "story", might be an ok singer but have a star personality. All of the holes get filled in either by the label, a producer, a stylist, management etc.

with that said then.. most of the artists we never succeeded were probably manufactured in someway. Look at any labels books. They might have 1000 ppl signed and 4 blow up.

Women get the tag A LOT more because there is straight up more that goes into a woman's image than a male artist. Make-up, styling etc... Visually they will always be more manufactured

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120. "having been around Storch from during this period, there was NO way"
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you could NOT tell me that Nicole Swhatshername was NOT gunning for that Rihanna position.

first time i met Jimmy Iovine at a 311 Show i to this day believe that he only came cause he was secretly "goomahing" Nicole S away from her then BF Nick (lead singer) whom we were opening for.

she travelled with the show for a bit so there was a crazy energy in the air that was already in effect. i mean PCD was just about to jump off the ground. but she was so ready for her closeup. actually quiet as its kept she has an *it* factor. even during like regular things like the 3am truck stop visit to Subway in bumblefuck america in her sweats she was prepping for her closeup.

so even during the time i was working with storch on Tipping id occasionally spot her and the machine was fittna go. like there was such a "remember this moment ahmir cause in about 12 years you'll be telling cats crazy stories of knowing her way "back when...."

i actually got frustrated when the machine couldn't quite take off.

sometimes it happens to the best of them.... label pres goes ALL OUT to make sure the machine works (see Matolla/Carey) and it just doesnt happen.

she is the FIRST person i think of when this subject comes up.

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121. "How many singles did they try to break her with..."
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before they scrapped the album?

  

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124. "I remember one with T.I. and one with will.i.am."
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127. "She apparently released an album internationally but..."
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not in the US. Reading the Wikipedia section on the her solo career is hysterical.

  

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130. "What were her issues? To me, none of her songs HIT like that. I liked"
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the direction they were going, to be those crossover "Black trendy crowd AND Top 40 crowd likes it" type songs, such as the one with T.I....but nothing ever took off for her.

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141. "Johnbook once said that Nicole never took off"
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because the industry still hadn't found a way to fetish-size her yet. I agree with that.

  

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146. "That can be said for a lot of people, but... I still feel the same way"
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Scherzinger definitely has a voice. She has the looks. But people will forever know her as a Pussycat Doll, and not a solo act, even though PCD as a "group" is essentially her.

Putting my Hawaiian pride into focus, look at Bruno Mars. He broke a lot of ground for pop music in Hawai'i, because it means someone who is him, with his ethnic background, with that face, can make it, even if he is a "Mars". Would he have made it as a Pete Hernandez? He would have made it, but not with the same level of impact? Where did Scherzinger go wrong? I think her people tried to cater her music to specific audiences, and failed. Bruno Mars actually pointed the finger at pop but said "I'm not afraid to show you what I can really do", and that generally goes against a lot of pop artists in Hawai'i. You're expected to make good music, cater to the tastes of your parents and grandparents, and be "safe". Mars has a sense of ballsiness I didn't sense at first, but now that he's in the position to take his career wherever HE wants, I feel he is in control. Scherzinger had those opportunities, but has yet to challenge them.

Yet.

I say "yet" because I truly want to give her a shot, have her be the one to be the "it" woman, the "aww shit" singer, but so far, not yet. The pessimistic person in me says it's not going to happen, that she has had the same level of success Yvonne Elliman had, and I compare her to Yvonne Elliman because of their shared Hawaiian heritage. It always seems when someone makes an attempt to step up to the plate, it goes away in five years. I wish Scherzinger had the same management team that Mars has, because if it was me, I'd be going for broke with her.

Here's how I feel. PCD was deliberately manufactured. Scherzinger is not, but her "role" was to be sexy within the product. The moment she tried to step out of the product, no one wanted her. People preferred the packaging over the item. Now the value of the item has weakened. She's a lead vocalist, but now has the integrity of a background vocalist. Yet I hear so many singers today that are neither, and yet are a success. Pisses me off every time the topic is brought up.




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158. "didn't she turn down "We Found Love" she has no ear, or her A&R"
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is an idiot...


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125. "Nikka Costa"
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Like a Feather is great, and she had Ronson behind her, but it didnt take off

  

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129. "didn't she have"
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two albums before 'Like a Feather' though?

Shaun G.

  

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131. "not sure"
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if she didn't they didn't make any waves here. And I felt like she was being propped up pretty good by the machine. Just didn't take.

  

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135. "but was she...?"
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134. "Ha!"
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Some of y'all really don't know what "manufactured" means...lol

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139. "Speak on it "
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136. "india.aire"
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160. "^^ Correct answer. "
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I can't stand that broad by the way.

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137. "Kreayshaun"
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LOL

  

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138. "NO"
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140. "RE: NO"
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>
She made it?

LOL

  

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142. "She wasn't really manufactered"
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at least in that traditional sense; she just had the good luck for a video to go viral. Sure, they tried to make something out of what little talent she got, but that was luck through and through.

The point of this post are those artist that get the WHOLE team behind em from gate...millions wasted on promotion, songwriting, training..and flop.

>>
>She made it?
>
>LOL

  

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147. "RE: She wasn't really manufactered"
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>at least in that traditional sense; she just had the good
>luck for a video to go viral. Sure, they tried to make
>something out of what little talent she got, but that was luck
>through and through.
>
>The point of this post are those artist that get the WHOLE
>team behind em from gate...millions wasted on promotion,
>songwriting, training..and flop.
>
>>>

I know. I just wanted to diss Kreayshaun cuz she sucks.

  

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143. "Them jackson boys 3T."
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144. "Highland Place Mobsters"
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and every other R&B group that tried to be like Jodeci.

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145. "Tamar Braxton. The Braxtons."
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not NOW after the reality show...

the FIRST time around on LaFace. pre-nose jobs.

i don't know if they are "manufactured" in the true sense of this post, but they were certainly given what should have been a good look/starting point coasting off of Toni's success.

and NOTHING popped off.

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148. "O-Town"
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i actually watched that damn show too. but i knew i wouldn't buy the music.

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149. "eden's crush"
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same as above.

except nicole schlongbanger (or whatever her last name is) is still kinda "in."

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151. "B5 and Young Joc"
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152. "RE: "Manufactured" artists that did not make it "
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I think that there are many good people that did not make it. I think that some people should also go to the NBA. And that some stay in college.

  

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Buck
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157. "Was Madonna manufactured?"
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My impression was that she busted her ass at club gigs for quite a while.

  

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