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"1997-1998: The (not so) dark ages of L.A. Rap"


  

          

It seems to be a common narrative that the West Coast fell off in 96, and was basically dead until 99 when Dre made 2001. But the more I think about it...it felt more like a Golden Age for local Rap that may not have made it out of L.A., but got major play from everybody in the city. Along with the G-Funk sound that was a bit evolved past what it was in 94-95, the Underground "L.A. Boom Bap" sound was really starting to take place.

Doggystyle, Chronic, and Dogg Food were the most played albums from 93-96...and I'd say that Street Gospel, Tha Shadiest One, and Rhythmalism were the most played in this period. The thing about this time was that artists seemed to feel like "fuck it, we might not get play outside the city, but we're gonna make sure the city loves it!!!"

Here's some of my favorites from this time period:

Tha Comrads - Westside Connect OG's:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNP7PGpoIyU

Mack 10 ft. Snoop Dogg - LBC and the ING:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Db6kKCDdq8

Mack 10 ft. Big Pun and Fat Joe - Let the games begin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuT7s7Z93lI

Suga Free - Doe Doe and da skunk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDFnGX86kYY

DJ Pooh ft. Threat - Nowhere to hide: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9y-wFA3yY28

The Comrads - Homeboyz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XrTo0DywB6Q

Suga Free - Why you bullshittin: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLXoSLEm7OQ (It took me years to realize that this is basically an even more West Coast sounding "Heartz of men")

Suga Free - Inside out: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D4vQ8-RlptU (officially came out years later, but some of us had the bootleg tape)

WC - Hog: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lneTuDx6LcQ

WC - Cheddar: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mj7KGGcIfE

DJ Quik - We still party: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E2pX7ezEKIs

DJ Quik - Down, down, down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIupvCZJaoo

Xzibit ft. Ras Kass and Saafir - 3 card molly: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYKbBkb8BSQ

Nate Dogg - Never leave me alone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzveEPBVQtA

Nate Dogg - These days: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wtxuKO0orXo

Warren G ft. Mr. Malik/Hershey Locc - What we go through: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2swZBkhdhQ

Daz ft. Too Short - It might sound crazy (remix): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRzwluU19Wk

Bad Azz ft. Snoop - We be putitn it down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2MqRDGv7EYU

It's even more songs than this. But yeah...at the time, I was in Middle/High School, and wasn't even using the internet, so it didn't feel like the West was "dead" at all to us. The radio still played these songs just as much as the Bad Boy tracks, and surely more than the No Limit ones. Even BET still had a few songs in rotation.

And that's all just L.A....the Bay had some HEAT too. E-40 "Hope I don't go back" and all those songs were out and in rotation as well!

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Ya know, I've recently started exploring this time period of hip-hop
Jun 01st 2015
1
I notice that a lot of folks who hated our sound back then tend to
Jun 01st 2015
2
My homies swear by the Daz/Quik/Battlecat shit from that era
Jun 01st 2015
6
And yeah, that DJ Pooh album wasn't so good
Jun 02nd 2015
13
      Thinking about it all, Pooh had a series of flops, sadly
Jun 02nd 2015
19
           I expected him to come strong after producing two tracks on "Dogg Food"
Jun 02nd 2015
28
                Well "The Wash" soundtrack was actually dope, he wasn't involved though
Jun 02nd 2015
32
                     It was VERY dope.
Jun 07th 2015
90
a few West Coast gems from that period
Jun 01st 2015
7
      Haha. I pretty much bumped all of those relentlessly
Jun 02nd 2015
12
      I really forgot how dope Likwidation is
Jun 03rd 2015
47
      THIS is the route I went
Jun 02nd 2015
23
           close enough though
Jun 03rd 2015
48
How was that Comrads album?
Jun 01st 2015
3
Comrads album was bangin to me back then. Doesn't hit as hard
Jun 01st 2015
4
The first Whoridas album had some dope shit on it.
Jun 01st 2015
5
Starting around 95 the Bay carried the torch..
Jun 01st 2015
8
L.A. and the Bay were about equal in 95, even though L.A. had more hits
Jun 02nd 2015
21
Xzibit - Recycled Assassins is so overlooked
Jun 01st 2015
9
My God that's such a banger
Jun 01st 2015
10
That beat is one of my favorite ever...Montage killed it
Jun 01st 2015
11
he's too advanced for his own good
Jun 02nd 2015
24
Great song.
Jun 04th 2015
65
Likwidation was one of the best rap albums of 1997 from anywhere
Jun 02nd 2015
14
Killin' It and Contents Under Pressure are my joints!
Jun 02nd 2015
16
Yep, those and Funny Style, Pass Out, Awww Shit, & Tore Down.
Jun 02nd 2015
30
And see y'all skipped maybe my two favorites on the whole album
Jun 02nd 2015
45
Killin it was one of them neck breakin beats
Jun 03rd 2015
49
^^^
Jun 02nd 2015
25
I felt it was a bit disappointing compared with ''Coast II coast''...
Jun 02nd 2015
42
      like it better than Coast II Coast but know most of the OG fans disagree
Jun 02nd 2015
44
Kurupt Streetz is a Mutha album was a slept on banger..
Jun 02nd 2015
15
Oh for sure, a lot of L.A> people actually prefer Streetz to 2001
Jun 02nd 2015
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I prefered "Steetz Iz a Mutha" too
Jun 02nd 2015
33
I did an "Album vs Album" thing a few months ago on IG/Twitter
Jun 02nd 2015
34
C-walk is a classic
Jun 04th 2015
66
that album is Good as fuck
Jun 02nd 2015
26
as a midwest kid...people used to look at me strange bumpin it
Jun 07th 2015
93
I never copped 2001
Jun 10th 2015
95
Liks, Lootpack, Dilated, Defari, Alchemist, Xzhibit, Raas Kas...
Jun 02nd 2015
17
^^^
Jun 02nd 2015
27
I keep forgetting ALC is an L.A. dude
Jun 04th 2015
73
      Word to Scott Caan and the Whooliganz
Jun 04th 2015
74
      yeah, i get em mixed up..but Muggs is from Queens...
Jun 05th 2015
88
3X Crazy - Keep It On The Real
Jun 02nd 2015
20
I almost feel deprived that I didn't hear most of these Bay songs til
Jun 02nd 2015
22
That got moderate play when I was in college. It was the cut, tho. *edit...
Jun 02nd 2015
29
^^^^Yeah, that shit was ill.
Jun 02nd 2015
31
thanks
Jun 04th 2015
67
      lol
Jun 04th 2015
79
      I wonder what happened to Bart...
Jun 04th 2015
81
           I always thought Bart was supposed to be the crazy one
Jun 04th 2015
83
                LOL. This is what I was alluding to...
Jun 04th 2015
84
                     Wow. I bet that story is hilarious..
Jun 04th 2015
85
RE: 1997-1998: The (not so) dark ages of L.A. Rap
Jun 02nd 2015
35
I definitely wasn't listening to it back then, but I heard the Defari,
Jun 02nd 2015
36
There's actually a lot of overlap between the two sides
Jun 02nd 2015
37
Oh with the rappers, it was for sure. Even shows booked artists on both
Jun 02nd 2015
39
RE: There's actually a lot of overlap between the two sides
Jun 02nd 2015
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RE: There's actually a lot of overlap between the two sides
Jun 02nd 2015
43
RE: There's actually a lot of overlap between the two sides
Jun 07th 2015
91
Self Scientifc!!!
Jun 02nd 2015
46
      I keep trying to figure out what went wrong
Jun 10th 2015
96
           right!!!
Jun 11th 2015
98
RE: 1997-1998: The (not so) dark ages of L.A. Rap
Jun 04th 2015
63
It's striking how much there was overlap between LA & the Bay scenes
Jun 02nd 2015
38
There was overlap, but the majority of Bay acts didn't get as much play
Jun 02nd 2015
41
great pick on the Sugga free and Quik "Inside Out"
Jun 03rd 2015
50
Good post.
Jun 03rd 2015
51
Okay, based on this post, I sought out a bunch of these albums
Jun 03rd 2015
52
Man, yeah I loved that production in that era from the Mack 10 side
Jun 04th 2015
69
      RE: Man, yeah I loved that production in that era from the Mack 10 side
Jun 04th 2015
76
           Shit! Yea, I actually never heard many good stories about him
Jun 04th 2015
78
Some Of My Favs from 97-98
Jun 03rd 2015
53
man I love that Psycho Realm album
Jun 03rd 2015
54
Stone Garden is the shit
Jun 04th 2015
61
What's the second dude's name in this pic?
Jun 03rd 2015
55
RE: What's the second dude's name in this pic?
Jun 03rd 2015
56
Yeaaaaaaaaa that's right! I'm mad I forgot
Jun 04th 2015
68
That's Sick Jacken. Him and Murs toured together back in 2010
Jun 03rd 2015
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Sic Jacken is super cool
Jun 04th 2015
60
Agreed. His first 3 albums were all excellent but...
Jun 04th 2015
58
Yeah 40 Dayz was a dope album...
Jun 04th 2015
59
check #54
Jun 04th 2015
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gotta re-listen to this one too!
Jun 04th 2015
64
MAAN, it's even more songs I am just now remembering.
Jun 04th 2015
70
No Doubt had a major resurgence in my daily listening in 2012...
Jun 04th 2015
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Man, my dad was like 55 when I first played it for him, and even he
Jun 04th 2015
82
      Yea man. That song got so many comments...
Jun 05th 2015
87
RE: MAAN, it's even more songs I am just now remembering.
Jun 04th 2015
75
It's wild, the Dilated songs only got play on the late night shows
Jun 04th 2015
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Backyard Boogie was the joint man
Jun 10th 2015
97
I think that Quik was the only one I was on heavy in this time...
Jun 04th 2015
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Semi-underground 12" by Buc Fifty (aka Buc Wead of Da Wascals):
Jun 04th 2015
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Krondon
Jun 05th 2015
86
Speaking of Strong Arm..I was a fan of Phil Da Agony..
Jun 06th 2015
89
      I know it's not from the time period, but...
Jun 07th 2015
92
      RE: Speaking of Strong Arm..I was a fan of Phil Da Agony..
Jun 07th 2015
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mrhood75
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1. "Ya know, I've recently started exploring this time period of hip-hop"
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At the time, I was pretty heavily into backpack/underground shit, so I pretty much ignored all the mainstream stuff from the era, from all areas. I've been playing a lot of the NY stuff, but I feel I should get into the West Coast stuff too. Of the links that you posted, the only album I owned at the time was Xzibit's. But I feel remiss that I never gave the WC/DJ Quik/Daz/Nate Dogg albums a chance.

So yeah, I guess as soon as I finish listening to this first Lox album, I'll put on the DJ Pooh.

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2. "I notice that a lot of folks who hated our sound back then tend to"
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appreciate it more now. Musically, no way to deny what it was. I didn't understand it back then that the lyrics and content were lacking, but the personality, flows, music, and just the song composition seemed to always be on point. Even the storytelling was still great on tracks like WC "Fuckin with a house party"...I literally think of that song every time I end up at a house party that seems sketchy.

LOL at going to DJ Pooh after Lox. I can say that his album wasn't that good aside from the two singles, though. That Mack 10 "The recipe" album was surely dope, though.

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6. "My homies swear by the Daz/Quik/Battlecat shit from that era"
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I just never got into it. Probably because I was turned off by the Death Row outside-the-music dumb shit that was going on at the time. Over time, I'm more open to give it a chance. And yeah, I definitely can appreciate their skill as story-tellers.


>LOL at going to DJ Pooh after Lox. I can say that his album
>wasn't that good aside from the two singles, though.

I remember watching the homie Mark Luv break "Whoomp Whoomp" at a club back in the days. Club went fucking apeshit.

>That Mack 10 "The recipe" album was surely dope, though.

Never heard it. Will give it a chance though.

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13. "And yeah, that DJ Pooh album wasn't so good"
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Like you said, it's basically the two singles. And maybe two other songs. It's a shame, because I love DJ Pooh, Kam, and Threat (Mista Grimm notsomuch). Just didn't add up to all that much. I honestly blame the beats.

And that Lox album isn't that good either.

But I am going to download The Recipe.

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19. "Thinking about it all, Pooh had a series of flops, sadly"
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from being the lead on Doggfather, to his own album, and even to making "The Wash." There was a time that folks saw him as being one of our next Dre's.

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28. "I expected him to come strong after producing two tracks on "Dogg Food""
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Especially considering "NY NY" and "Smooth" were both the shit. But "Doggfather" was a poster child for sophomore let-downs. I never even bothered listening to "The Wash" soundtrack. Better or worse than "Bad Newz"?

It really sucks because I grew up on the stuff Pooh did with King Tee. That's almost as important to my musical upbringing as NWA and Ice Cube. And to see that he fizzled hurts.

Ah well, at least the script to "Friday" was dope.

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32. "Well "The Wash" soundtrack was actually dope, he wasn't involved though"
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he just wrote/directed it or whatever, so it still counts toward his overall legacy. But yeah, the music itself on there was slept on...I was really in shock that nobody cared about "On the Blvd" and the title track, being that Dre and Snoop were fresh off of The Next Episode and Still D.R.E....hell, and Bitch please too.

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90. "It was VERY dope."
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>he just wrote/directed it or whatever, so it still counts
>toward his overall legacy. But yeah, the music itself on there
>was slept on...I was really in shock that nobody cared about
>"On the Blvd" and the title track, being that Dre and Snoop
>were fresh off of The Next Episode and Still D.R.E....hell,
>and Bitch please too.

As you mentioned, I was extremely surprised that On the Blvd never really took off. That probably just has to do with it not having a video. It's one of my favorite Snoop and Dre collabos, especially when they start trading verses.

That soundtrack was very well put together and I could easily rate it up there with High School High and Juice, which are my two must own hip hop laden OSTs.


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7. "a few West Coast gems from that period"
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Tha Alkaholiks "All Night" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hi4FgleGmWk

Dilated Peoples "Third Degree" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCLl1ISqYwc

Loot Pack "Psyche Move" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tAg7lLjqE2M

Ras Kass "Soul on Ice" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tp6QI7pQ1Ds

Dan the Automator "4:17" - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_Imtyf1CXk


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"Where was the peace when we were getting shot? Where's the peace when we were getting laid out?
Where is the peace when we are in the back of ambulances? Where is the peace then?
They don't want to call for peace then.

  

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12. "Haha. I pretty much bumped all of those relentlessly"
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Especially Aklaholik's "Likwidation." One of my favorite albums period from that era.

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47. "I really forgot how dope Likwidation is "
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I've bumped Coast II Coast so tough that I genuinely forgot about Likwidation. I started listening to it again about two months ago. There was so many gems on that album I'm actually kinda pissed I've been overlooking it.

  

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23. "THIS is the route I went"
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Soul On ice 96 tho fam

  

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48. "close enough though"
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Ras Kass got bumped all through '97 so I figured I'd include it anyway.

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3. "How was that Comrads album?"
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I have their CD single still. I remmeber liking a video for a group called the Whooridaz (sp). Were they any good?

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4. "Comrads album was bangin to me back then. Doesn't hit as hard"
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as WC's at all, but some songs still sound good.

Who-Ridaz had some bangers, they were from the Bay but had a L.A. sound more so than Mob from what I heard them make. More of a BBQ, Lowrider sound.

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5. "The first Whoridas album had some dope shit on it."
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They were the more "street rap" arm of Hobo Junction, but they made more rider music.

Till the Wheels Fall Off f/ Eyecue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1xwNe6DpSI

Taxin
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8. "Starting around 95 the Bay carried the torch.."
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LA rap was overshadowed by their neighbors to the north. There was still a lot of heat dropping though:

Daz - RRGB
Lil C Style compilations
Quik, Suga Free etc
Menace Clan - Da Hood
Bad Azz

plus everything you mentioned earlier...

  

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21. "L.A. and the Bay were about equal in 95, even though L.A. had more hits"
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mainstream wise. 96, Bay had a whoooole lotta tracks that should have been bigger mainstream.

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9. "Xzibit - Recycled Assassins is so overlooked"
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10. "My God that's such a banger"
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That beat is beautiful. The flows... Dope album too.

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11. "That beat is one of my favorite ever...Montage killed it"
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and the lyrics...greatness.

"...slumped a n*gg* just for looking, didn't know he was blind
so I find mankind is a serious threat
to another of his kind when there's something to get
and I bet when feds jet through the spot
to see what they got, nobody saw shit cuz it's not
cool to break the rule of the code of the streets..."

X kills it with the full circle story of his two brothers too.

and yes, that album is a few slip ups away from being an all-time classic in my opinion.

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24. "he's too advanced for his own good"
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he didn't get a second chance to see the glock pointed at his hood...

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65. "Great song."
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14. "Likwidation was one of the best rap albums of 1997 from anywhere"
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16. "Killin' It and Contents Under Pressure are my joints!"
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30. "Yep, those and Funny Style, Pass Out, Awww Shit, & Tore Down."
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Plus Captain Hook and the title track. Yeah, that whole album is the shiznit. But damn, Tash was fucking bitter about his ex.

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45. "And see y'all skipped maybe my two favorites on the whole album"
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in Feel The Real (tho maybe this is the bitterness u were referencing) and All Night (J-Ro's closing verse on here is his career peak).

Those two and Contents Under Pressure were the three for me.

My boys and I played this everywhere despite living in three different cities at the time, whenever we got together for a weekend road trip this album was being played all the way through several times.

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49. "Killin it was one of them neck breakin beats"
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IIRC, that was the joint I got stuck on when I first got the tape (i.e. I listened to that song for 2-3 days straight non-stop).

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25. "^^^"
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42. "I felt it was a bit disappointing compared with ''Coast II coast''..."
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It was definitely good though; I think my problem was it was just too fucking long and too many tracks-I dug the efficiency of the first two Liks albums
Also, I had it on vinyl and long albums with lots of skits and stuff was always a chore even if I don't remember many particular cuts missing the marks-it's more the combined impact of the Liks for 70 minutes or so...

  

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44. "like it better than Coast II Coast but know most of the OG fans disagree"
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I really think the run length is the biggest part of that when it comes down to it, because the songs were more memorable on a case-by-case basis.

And I can understand that in today's context but man every rap album was long in 1997, plus this would end up being the last great Alkaholik album so now having it stuffed with prime-cut-Likwit-shit doesn't feel like a bad deal.

To me this was Tash at the pinnacle of his bouncing-on-the-top-rack-in-Tetris flow.

I had him, Deck and Andre Benjamin in my Top 5 MC's during that late-90's era.

When Tash dropped a 20-track-solo album a year or so after this was when i was like, 'alright, you gotta scale back a bit'.

The skits aren't great but they're so short that they were never worth even skipping on the disc for back then.

I can't really think of what I'd say could definitely be cut.....maybe the WhoRidas song or one more towards the end I'm forgetting.

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15. " Kurupt Streetz is a Mutha album was a slept on banger.."
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It came out around the same time as Chronic 2001 so it got over shadowed (shit if I remember right it came out the same day!...lol)

I think because of the massive anticipation of 2001, Streetz didn't get it's just due as a really good album. Plus Kurupt's previous double album wasn't getting the best of reviews, even though We Can Freak It is still is his biggest song to date.



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18. "Oh for sure, a lot of L.A> people actually prefer Streetz to 2001"
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It was surely more Regional. And yea, the double album was a flop, but still had bangers. I forgot to post "Ask yourself a question" which was def a hitter.

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33. "I prefered "Steetz Iz a Mutha" too"
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Me and whole crew, actually. But I don't want to extrapolate the feelings of my circle of homies across the entire Bay.

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34. "I did an "Album vs Album" thing a few months ago on IG/Twitter"
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Shockingly, it got HUGE, especially once Bomani Jones started responding to the questions.

When I did "2001 vs Streetz"...most of Twitter picked 2001, since it's folks from everywhere. But my IG is majority L.A. people, and nearly all of them picked Streetz!

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66. "C-walk is a classic"
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> but still had bangers.

the album was just too diluted with the 2 cd's east coast/west coast nonsense

  

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26. "that album is Good as fuck"
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he just spit his ass off on that record

  

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93. "as a midwest kid...people used to look at me strange bumpin it"
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95. "I never copped 2001"
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I caught the fade on that Immobilarity. After that bad experience I never went back for 2001. I just went ahead and copped Streetz iz a mutha and never looked back. I love that album. I play it more than any Dr. Dre album. Snoop only has one album better IMO. The posse cuts go so hard man. I even know the skits like the back of my hand.

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17. "Liks, Lootpack, Dilated, Defari, Alchemist, Xzhibit, Raas Kas..."
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....thats just off the top of the head from that mid late 90s era ...crazy amount of dope shit coming from all directions

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73. "I keep forgetting ALC is an L.A. dude"
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74. "Word to Scott Caan and the Whooliganz"
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20. "3X Crazy - Keep It On The Real"
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this was a hood hit - bay area https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qo8tPTpaPiY

Brotha Lynch (from Sac I believe) You Will Die from Loaded - another hood classic https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83zfOIscXUM

  

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22. "I almost feel deprived that I didn't hear most of these Bay songs til"
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college. BTW, a newer artist named Netta Brielle sampled the 3x Krazy song, it's actually called 3x Krazy too

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29. "That got moderate play when I was in college. It was the cut, tho. *edit..."
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I should spell out that college was in a very small, rural college town in the early to mid 90s. This was before folks were downloading music too. We relied on BET and newsgroup discussions/recommendations in order to find music.

  

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31. "^^^^Yeah, that shit was ill."
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81. "I wonder what happened to Bart..."
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Agerman went gospel. Keek Da Sneak got big then went sorta crazy. Dunno about Bart tho.

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83. "I always thought Bart was supposed to be the crazy one"
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Keek is cool, I know people who know him. They just say he likes to um...get on a good one sometimes (all the time)

  

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84. "LOL. This is what I was alluding to..."
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>They just say he likes to um...get on a good one sometimes (all the >time)

Another dude I was supposed to interview, but completely flaked out. After we drove all the way up to Sacto.

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85. "Wow. I bet that story is hilarious.."
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plus there's so many rappers around there you probably ran into 20 others

  

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35. "RE: 1997-1998: The (not so) dark ages of L.A. Rap"
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Yo DJ R-Tistic,

Were you listening to the Project Blowed affiliates around this time?
Have you put together a Project Blowed or Goodlife mix?
Some of the best stuff came out around '97/'98. Albums like:

Aceyalone - A Book of Human Language
Abstract Tribe Unique - Mood Pieces
Abstract Tribe Unique - South Central Thynk Taynk
Omid - Beneath the Surface (an incredible Blowed compilation)
Of Mexican Decent - Exitos Y Mas Exitos
The Nonce - The Sight of Things

Plus a bunch of underground albums by groups like CVE and Hip Hop Klan circulating on tape and CDR.

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36. "I definitely wasn't listening to it back then, but I heard the Defari, "
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Dilated type acts on late night radio in that period.

What I realized, especially in this post, is that this time basically lead to two completely different sides of L.A. fans. The more G-Funk/Gangsta, borderline commercial fans, and then the underground/Project Blowed type of fans. There was some overlap here and there, but not much.

I definitely gotta check out those albums, the only one I'm familiar with is Aceyalone. I remember Self Scientific and even Black Eyed Peas being in that scene back then, but I was too young to take part in it!

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37. "There's actually a lot of overlap between the two sides"
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It's not really as overt listening to the music itself, but it's there.

Take of the dudes mentioned above, Abstract Rude. Dude is the epitome of a Project: Blowed type rapper. But he came up with Lay Law and DJ Slip (of CMW) as his mentors. (A side note, he was also the little known third act that was supposed to launch Michael Jackson's MJJ record label)

Myka 9 from FreeStyle Fellowship raps on the original version of the "NWA and the Posse" album.

Volume 10 is just as much as a "gangsta rapper", content-wise, as any of the dudes mentioned in your o.g. post.


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39. "Oh with the rappers, it was for sure. Even shows booked artists on both"
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sides. But with the fans, not as much at all.

Most of my friends who are born and raised in L.A. like me, from my generation, barely know those names. It depended on age, and even exactly where you lived...it seems like Mid City and Leimert Park were much more involved with the Project Blowed/Underground scene.

I would say that there were surely more fans into the Underground side that were also into the G-Funk side than vice versa. A lot of the Underground fans who I knew here were more into East Coast Boom Bap than G-Funk or Commercial East Coast.

With Volume 10, most people I know would see him as a one hit wonder. Sadly, half the people who live "Pistol Grip Pump" may not even know his name. When Napster was poppin, the song was almost always mislabeled as being made by "Mack 10"...which was also because of the confusion of Mack 10 and T-Boz remaking the track.

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40. "RE: There's actually a lot of overlap between the two sides"
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Good points. Also, RBX has appeared on Myka 9 and Freestyle Fellowship albums.

And, Ganjah K dropped a chill-inducing verse on "Akebulan" from the "RBX Files" album. Peep the 2nd verse:

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43. "RE: There's actually a lot of overlap between the two sides"
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Another Blowed / Dogg Pound collab:

Ganjah K "Ups & Downs" feat. Snoop Dogg, produced by Daz:

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91. "RE: There's actually a lot of overlap between the two sides"
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>Myka 9 from FreeStyle Fellowship raps on the original version
>of the "NWA and the Posse" album.

This is the first time I've heard about this and also the first time being made aware that there was a scratched version of NWA and the posse.

Why'd they scratch it, if you might know?

Also, IMAGINE if he had stayed down with that crew?. He might have been one of the greatest gangster rappers of all time today.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

  

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46. "Self Scientifc!!!"
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The Best Part
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The Self Science
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3DwefWObL0

Three Kings f/ Krondon & wack ass Phil
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=paHPKfjwRkI

Love Allah
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G6daeavmKQY

Cash Craft
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yo9U8BzanTk

Degrees
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=beVyMuoM60w&list=PL4GyFdp5YdmNrbnxhsBUPYXZAaIg1giDe&index=15

man, listen... i was disappointed their album wasn't a classic

  

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96. "I keep trying to figure out what went wrong"
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Every song they dropped was dope. Album came...

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98. "right!!!"
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but tell me the ones I linked aren't gems

  

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63. "RE: 1997-1998: The (not so) dark ages of L.A. Rap"
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>Some of the best stuff came out around '97/'98. Albums like:
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>Aceyalone - A Book of Human Language
>Abstract Tribe Unique - Mood Pieces
>Abstract Tribe Unique - South Central Thynk Taynk
>Omid - Beneath the Surface (an incredible Blowed compilation)
>Of Mexican Decent - Exitos Y Mas Exitos
>The Nonce - The Sight of Things
>

yup, all those!

gotta pull out ABOHL again.

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38. "It's striking how much there was overlap between LA & the Bay scenes"
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at the time. Or maybe it's striking how segregated they seem now.

This post has much looking back at a lot of the "gangsta" albums from that era. Was Swoop G from the LA or the Bay? Looking at the track-list/guest appearances/production credits on his album, I can't tell. I think he's from LA. Only reason I'd know Bad Azz is from LA is this post.

I dunno, maybe it's because a lot these acts were on Priority.

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41. "There was overlap, but the majority of Bay acts didn't get as much play"
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in L.A., especially on radio. There were a good number of folks here who played Bay music, but it didn't go as deep.

I remembered ALL the main names from back then, so even beyond Short and 40, that would be Dru Down, Mac Mall, Spice 1, Ant Banks, 3x Krazy, The Who-Ridas, Celly Cell, Mac Dre, even down to the folks like Little Bruce and Dre Dog. But I really only knew who they were because their albums were all at Sam Goody and The Wherehouse. I would catch a few of their videos on Rap City, sometimes even The Box, but that was it. Me being younger had a huge impact, since I was 12-14 at this time, and also the fact that the internet wasn't really going until 1999 when it came to music.

Listening to all the Bay music I put on the Timeline, I find it crazy that barely any of it really made it to L.A, because it sounded so similar. A few songs would make it randomly, like "It's going down tonight" but we missed a good majority of the bangers. Local radio was way different, though...so it was also about the fact that L.A. rappers were hanging at the studios daily, while Bay ones wouldn't make it down as much.

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50. "great pick on the Sugga free and Quik "Inside Out""
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dug how Quik sung that song from that distant vibe.

very Slave inspired and dug that bass Groove.


Rappin 4 tay,celly cell and dru down had some bangers back then as well.

i had a cold Bay Area Compilation with Ant Banks and others it was a Banger.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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51. "Good post."
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I stayed on board with LA rap throughout. No it wasn't nearly as far-reaching and potent as the early-to-mid 90s were for the area but there was definitely some great music coming out of LA during the late 90s, including many of the songs you posted plus more.

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52. "Okay, based on this post, I sought out a bunch of these albums"
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(Bought the second Xzibit album when it dropped; ridiculously dope)

Haven't had a chance to make it through them all, but yo, I'm really liking the album from The Comrads and Allfrumtha I. Which is sorta surprising, since I've never like Mack 10, but his associates appear to be dope. The beats are really strong. Which of course makes DJ Pooh's misfire look even worse.

Next up is WC and Mack 10's "The Recipe." Figure I'll give Mack another day in court.

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69. "Man, yeah I loved that production in that era from the Mack 10 side"
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"County jail" used to get some play on L.A. radio, but it's all the way forgotten about now. A lot of us forget how big Mack 10 was...seeing him portrayed in the TLC movie, a lot of people almost see it as being backwards that he was able to get T-Boz. But Cube was still a King of L.A., and he was his right hand man for a minute.

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76. "RE: Man, yeah I loved that production in that era from the Mack 10 side"
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I had halfway negative experiences with Mack 10, so I've always given his "era" the side-eye, even retro-actively.

Back in 2000(?!?!?!), I got flown out to Chicago to interview him for a cover story I was writing. It was in advance of "The Paper Route", not that long after he married T-Boz, and while he was rolling with Ice Cube as part of the Smoking Grooves tour. The idea was that he was going to do a photo shoot, then I'd interview him for a bit, then he'd go and do the show.

Well, dude was literally 4 hours late to the shoot. Which was awkward. But I at least got to kick it with the photographers, label rep, and wardrobe girls, who were all cool. Then the photo shoot took like another hour. By the time it was over, he had to head out to the venue. So I got to talk to him for all of 15 minutes en route to the show. And that was 10 minutes too long, because he was one of the least interesting rappers I've ever interviewed. And "The Paper Route" kinda sucked.

But still, listening to the albums from cats in his camp, they had something. And I'll give his first few albums their day in court.

In the meantime, this "Shadiest One" joint is dope.

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78. "Shit! Yea, I actually never heard many good stories about him"
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And by 2000, he was basically done. But his first three albums, and everyone he linked up at the time? Definitely something like a legend. AND he literally put Inglewood on the map, as he promised in his first single.

Everyone talked about how he was abusive toward T-Boz. But even folks in Inglewood never really say anything good about him. I know his own hood stopped dealing with him, and most of the ING rappers had something out for him, such as Da Relativez/Young Soldierz/Big Wy. So I'm not surprised that the interview was pretty dry as well.

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53. "Some Of My Favs from 97-98"
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Psycho Realm-Super underrated album. Some Dark shit with a lot of heart & good production. This first album is what Cypress Hill's 4th album should have sounded like.

Liquidation-Underrated gem of an album. J Ro & Tash are in prime form.

40 Dayz & 40 Nightz-Xzibit's best album in my opinion.

Rasassination-Probably the most lyrical West Coast album of that era.

This was also around the time when a lot of the more underground LA stuff started to bubble in late 99 going into early 2000...The Lootpack, Madlib,

  

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54. "man I love that Psycho Realm album"
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Showdown
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4gPVRckG2sY

The Big Payback
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SQ9ewxgtMqI

Stone Garden <--- possibly my favorite on the album; you know what I'm sayin' esse, we all die at the end muthafucka...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UIMeK9IH3Pc

La Conecta Py. II
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A9zgZEJVQwI

Psycho City Blocks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMilpIeYcBo

and I just recently watched Blue Velvet and realized when B Real is wyldin at the beginning of "Bullets" he's riffing on Dennis Hopper's insane character from the movie

  

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61. "Stone Garden is the shit"
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The whole album bangs but that track is definitely my favorite as well.

  

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55. "What's the second dude's name in this pic?"
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http://41.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_luwxltTc9H1r56i7uo1_1280.jpg

I see him with Murs ALL the time, always talk to him, but never knew his name. He's one of the coolest dudes ever, but you would never know when you see their wild ass stage show!

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56. "RE: What's the second dude's name in this pic?"
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2nd from the left is Sick Jacken I think. 2mex interviewed him on his podcast... Dope interview with a lot of Psycho Realm history explained.

  

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68. "Yeaaaaaaaaa that's right! I'm mad I forgot "
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57. "That's Sick Jacken. Him and Murs toured together back in 2010"
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He was on the "Fornever" album. He's also the guy that still does guest appearances.

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60. "Sic Jacken is super cool"
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Really underrated dude and one of those guys that everyone seems to really like.

  

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58. "Agreed. His first 3 albums were all excellent but..."
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...this one is def best in my opinion, too. I actually liked a lot of his later work as well, though he never reached his early peak again.

>40 Dayz & 40 Nightz-Xzibit's best album in my opinion.

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59. "Yeah 40 Dayz was a dope album..."
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I dug Liquidation and appreciated Rasssassination alot more now than I did then...Im not really hip to Psycho Realm but I'll give it a spin tho..


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62. "check #54"
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64. "gotta re-listen to this one too!"
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>Rasassination-Probably the most lyrical West Coast album of
>that era.

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70. "MAAN, it's even more songs I am just now remembering."
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Mack 10 - Backyard Boogie: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HZE9xZsqjNM (You STILL hear this a whole lot out here)

Kurupt - We can freak it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oU5EUAh8q34 (Same as above, but played even more)

Ice Cube - Ghetto vet...one of his best songs post WSCG: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRQ5wlkVznE

Kurupt - Ask yourself a question (Prod. by Dre): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDQziPY0N9g

Dr. Dre & LL Cool J - Zoom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nk9UIFjuRbg

Dilated Peoples - Work the angles: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2kYVCl8Kh0

All Frum Tha I - County jail: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu6ZSpMwv-c

Mack 10 - Gangsta shit is like a drug: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lWk73dUGSKk

DJ Quik ft. Suga Free - No doubt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uFiRWtDK5bg

Jayo Felony - Nitty gritty (Diego but still): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jJxxakEXQ8Q

Shaq ft. Peter Gunz, Prod. by Quik - The way it's goin down: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nLaea9Du85I (It was Shaq, but that beat!!!!!)

Dogg Pound and Luniz - My buddy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QR-CQjAgJYk

Tray Dee ft. Daz and Jayo Felony - Way too crazy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ph2E0mMyFjM (Completely slept on from Rush Hour sdtk)

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71. "No Doubt had a major resurgence in my daily listening in 2012..."
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randomly. No idea how I came across it again but this was one of 4 summers I got a house in Newport with a few of my buddies and this song was a daily play (sometimes multiple plays) on the beach. Love that track. That beat is ludicrous. Just listened the other day actually.

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82. "Man, my dad was like 55 when I first played it for him, and even he"
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liked it. And Suga Free's whole delivery on there was just perfectly funky LOL

>randomly. No idea how I came across it again but this was one
>of 4 summers I got a house in Newport with a few of my buddies
>and this song was a daily play (sometimes multiple plays) on
>the beach. Love that track. That beat is ludicrous. Just
>listened the other day actually.

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87. "Yea man. That song got so many comments..."
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on the beach that summer from people who hadn't previously heard it. Like "yo what's this? beat is dope"

I love Suga Free so much. He enhances every song he's on, with few exceptions.

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75. "RE: MAAN, it's even more songs I am just now remembering."
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>Dilated Peoples - Work the angles:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2kYVCl8Kh0

This one was a HUGE underground hit. Even when I went out to Chicago, it got play all the time. DJ Revolution's scratches on that are so ill. Beni B said it was very much ABB's most ordered/shipped single.

>WC - Fuckin wit uh house party:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kt4pxiU20-g

Bumped this for the first time today on the way to work. "Looking like the Elephant Man with a Jheri Curl..." had me cracking the fuck up.

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77. "It's wild, the Dilated songs only got play on the late night shows"
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Never heard them during the "Rush Hour" or before-school mixes.

And maaaaan, that WC line!! LOL I literally rented Elephant Man from Blockbuster because I heard that line and was like "Who the hell is the Elephant man? He sound ugly!!!" That whole song is hilarious...and that shit was sooooo relatable to us back then. "What that stand for on ya arm?" "Niggas Havin Cash" because NHC = Neighborhood Crip...he was in the wrong hood and they saw that tattoo.

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97. "Backyard Boogie was the joint man"
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Forgot about that. And Gheto Vet is definetly the last classic song I heard from Cube. I did like Fuck Dying on the low.

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72. "I think that Quik was the only one I was on heavy in this time..."
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outside of the cats that were low-key hitting like XZ, Liks, and of course the Lootpack...

I can't remember which magazine, wanna say the Source gave it a low rating, I went and checked that CD out, and was like, "THESE MOTHERFUCKERS LIED"

  

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80. "Semi-underground 12" by Buc Fifty (aka Buc Wead of Da Wascals):"
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Still Breathin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mkd-I6rnJiw

One of two 12"s on the very short-lived Soul Assassins records. Produced by Alchemist.

I'd include the Baron Ricks 12" too, but he was from Harlem.

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86. "Krondon"
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Most people only know him from when he was a part of Xzibit's Strong Arm Steady crew but he had been putting it down for a minute in LA in the late 90's into the 2000's:

Know The Rules-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szSuautV-DA

Black Gold- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1Coc1eFhS0

  

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89. "Speaking of Strong Arm..I was a fan of Phil Da Agony.."
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Around that time....He had that 'dont rhyme where you think he should rhyme, but it rhymes eventually' type of style going on but I really fucked with it...




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92. "I know it's not from the time period, but..."
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> Around that time....He had that 'dont rhyme where you think
>he should rhyme, but it rhymes eventually' type of style going
>on but I really fucked with it...

Had to say that his The Aromatic album is criminally underrated and really could have made an impact if it was promoted right.

Come to grips with the fact that most OKP's are of the Nut Hugger lineage, so, if you' re not part of the little cliques that exist 'round here, your posts will probably tank like Souljaboy's album sales.

  

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94. "RE: Speaking of Strong Arm..I was a fan of Phil Da Agony.."
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Phil is definitely underrated. I always thought he was one of those MC's that was a good mix of street and straight up MC type of Hip Hop. If he was in a different situation I could have seen him blowing up even beyond just the LA underground for sure.

  

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