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bentagain
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10. "More specifically..."
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Sun Aug-08-10 08:34 AM by bentagain

  

          

Since the main obstacle in the discussion is the label "conscious", I will refer to the individuals I am speaking of as "native tongues", since that is what they called themselves...

In the golden era of hip-hop, circa 1985-88, the majority of music in the market was quality. Toward the end of this era we have the emergence of more commercially viable acts with MC Hammer and NWA moving a lot of units. We also have the emergence of the native tongues. Elder statesmen the Jungle Brothers, ATCQ, and De La, developed a distinct sound and formed an alliance dubbed the native tongues. They developed a sound that was organic, immersed in the preservation of the pillars of hip-hop, and appearing to be unconcerned with commercial success. As their careers progressed into the 90's they helped mentor acts such as BlacStarr, Common, and even the Roots whom subsequently became affiliated. The native tongue family had its 2nd generation and it was in good hands. That was 15 years ago. As those same acts associated with the native tongue sound are progressing into the latter stages of their career, and some appear to becoming more concerned with themselves as commodities, there is a noticeable void in the 3rd generation of the native tongue sound. Regardless of your personal opinion of their music today, what acts are going to hold my interest in the hip-hop industry? The Roots, definitely. Mos Def, mos definitely. Kweli, hesitant. Common, no comment. Gucci Mane, hell no. It seems to me that Jay Electronica has been crowned prince of the 3rd generation. It may seem like an insurmountable task, but I'm praying on it...If heads want to make money, make your money, but my personal interest is vested in the native tongue sound. If there was definite 3rd generation, I wouldn't have to concern myself with decisions that Kweli or Common make, I would have acts to fill my hip-hop prescription and they can go act or collaborate with Gucci Mane. But there isn't, so the expectation may prevail amongst fans of the original native tongue sound for those acts which still remain to carry on the legacy.

  

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Death of the conscious rapper... [View all] , bentagain, Sat Jul-24-10 08:22 AM
 
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RE: Death of the conscious rapper...
Jul 24th 2010
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RE: Death of the conscious rapper...
Jul 24th 2010
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"conscious" rap was a term given by marketing.
Aug 04th 2010
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RE: "conscious" rap was a term given by marketing.
Aug 05th 2010
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      What are you talking about?
Aug 06th 2010
5
           Sell your image, never sell a record...
Aug 07th 2010
6
                More specifically...
Aug 07th 2010
7
                     Please, it isnt that complex.
Aug 08th 2010
8
                          I love when people run out of intelligent counter arguments...
Aug 08th 2010
9
                              
                               who ran out of counter argument?
Aug 08th 2010
11
                                    RE: who ran out of counter argument?
Aug 09th 2010
12
                                         uh why i even bother, i should have just let your rant die
Aug 09th 2010
13
                                              Hello, I didn't write the article. Did you even read it?
Aug 09th 2010
14
                                              i could care less about the article.
Aug 09th 2010
15
                                                   The point that I am trying to make, for fear of redundancy...
Aug 09th 2010
16
                                                        Yes, maybe...
Aug 17th 2010
24
                                                        dude please stop repeating same bs
Aug 18th 2010
25
                                              This dood says he's approaching 40...
Aug 17th 2010
23
                                                   THANK YOU
Aug 18th 2010
26
Could be a marketing move...
Aug 09th 2010
17
maybe you could explain that again for Lexx
Aug 09th 2010
18
      explain to me? you serious?
Aug 11th 2010
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RE: Death of the conscious rapper...
Aug 10th 2010
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RE: Death of the conscious rapper...
Aug 11th 2010
21
Yea I read that post
Aug 17th 2010
22
RE: Death of the conscious rapper...
Aug 18th 2010
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