39. "seriously, u are in full "whining" mode right now" In response to In response to 38 Thu Jun-02-05 02:00 PM by suave_bro
>The problem that you and Suave Bro are having, is that you >don't realize that black people are not monolithic.
- see there you all go again puting peoples opinions on a message board before real world events - if what you just typed out is true, it would reflect in the market. allow me to break it down for you in the most simple way i know how...if u put 20 black folks in a room and 17 of them want to see UPN, SoulPlane, listen to ying yang twinz and lil john and the other 3 want to watch Hotel Rwanda, listen to BlackStar and dead prez, want to go to the poetry sessions and protest and march etc., those 3 are simply SOL when it comes to the media! what station/media outlet can survive by simply catering to 4% of a population?
>I guess that comes from looking @ black issues from white >eyes, and thinking that there can only be 1 way to look at >it.
- once again, that is simply your frustration talking - hell, you wouldnt be debating anything if what we were saying wasn't true.
>As to Suave, the sheer fact that Bill Cosby's attitude towards >lots of issues in black american life is shared by nearly a >majority of black folks, should tell us all that it's very >difficult to figure out what black people are about - and that >it;s silly to generalize in this context.
- well an overwhelming majority of black folks that agree with cosby are OLDER than my generation. anybody that knows anything about the media knows that it has to cater to the group that spends/GENERATES the most money and thats teenagers/young folks. look @ BET, they have gotten rid of ALL of their programming for "adults" because teenagers watching the bullshit boosts those ratings and im not mad @ them, ratings are the ONLY thing in the television industry. this isnt 1995...
>The article however goes out of its way to show how much white >industry, in this case advertising, is unwilling to >acknowledge the diversity of black, insists on obvious (ie >stereotypical black cues), and only if it's consistent with a >white understanding of blackness.
- once again, u are waiting on an outside influence to "help us out"...your frustration and whining stems from the fact that black folks are complacent and apathetic towards this "problem" which they dont see as a problem at all. white people have a perfect understanding of what being "black" is all about, the problem is that when they throw it back in our faces, we get embarrassed (at least the "intellectual" negroes do), prime example was when a few years back Ford was asked by jesse jackson to pull that magazine ad of a black man with a ford truck in his gold teeth. now, go to any black community in america or turn it on BET right now and u will see gold teeth/grills. its become a part of our culture and has been for quite some time...however, when white folks say "HEY! lets use a black guy with gold teeth to sell this product" its racist....now, that reaction stems from A) we are embarrassed and ashamed of our own culture or B) we are simply looking for something to pin on whitey to call him racist over because that is just-what-we-do or C) a little of both.
>But this level of obviousness seems to escape the both of >you.
- give it up man, u are whining because folks dont see things the way u do. just accept it and move forward with life.