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34. "RE: but isn't being 'Black' the meat of discussion"
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>>and dealing with issues concerning Blacks in general?
>If a discussion on how to better black families was made,
>wouldn't it seem more fit for the Huxtibles and Evans to
>discuss issues/find solutions compared to the Cunninghams
>given their insight on something that doesn't and never will
>have anything to do with them?

I think the last part of your scenario is false but it's an assumption that many people make. There *are white people that experience (and some surmount) bad credit, illegitimate children, problems with crime, etc.

In a discussion about those issues, they have more clout than a black or white family that's experienced none of those issues. The important factor isn't their race but their experience.

Also, people seem to believe that you have to experience the WHOLE condition in order to have any clout on some on the minor issues. The more experience the better for familiarity's sake but it's not necessary. A financial advisor can help you improve your finances without understanding "how the breakdown of the black family structure influenced your decision to have a child before you were finanicially ready".

You might feel more comfortable with an advisor that shares your views, but he's likely giving you the same advice he'd give anyone else in your financial condition, no matter the historical influences.

>Now if its a discussion on a universal topic versus a
>particular group of people, then everybodies opinion would
>hold similar weight, but I can't see me throwing my two cents
>in a discussion on how the Eskimos could better their
>community.

If you have experience in any issue that concerns them, you're 2 cents are 2 cents closer to a solution.

>And when was the last time non-whites engaged in a
>conversation on how to better white communities? Can't help
>but be suspicious about their motives.
>

Our communities are usually worse off so the dynamic is primarily them helping us while we help ourselves. Personally, I have no problem with who comes up with a solution as long as I feel it's contructive.

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Racist discourse and paternalism. [View all] , chillsm00th, Sat May-14-05 06:51 AM
 
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True
Apr 21st 2005
1
It's about credibility
Apr 21st 2005
2
RE: It's about credibility
Apr 21st 2005
3
      Because white people assume their opinions to be authoritative
Apr 21st 2005
4
           RE: Because white people assume their opinions to be authoritative
Apr 21st 2005
5
                Oh-PLEASE...there are still Grown Adults that think this way..?
Apr 21st 2005
6
RE: True
Apr 21st 2005
7
RE: Racist discourse and paternalism.
Apr 21st 2005
8
I think we suffer from a paralysis of analysis
May 10th 2005
31
RE: Racist discourse and paternalism.
Apr 25th 2005
9
Cosign 100%!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Apr 25th 2005
10
RE: Racist discourse and paternalism.
May 09th 2005
11
RE: This post is an oxymoron,
May 09th 2005
12
      RE: Typical ignoramous liberal!
May 09th 2005
16
           RE: Typical ignoramous liberal!
May 09th 2005
17
                RE: Typical ignoramous liberal!
May 09th 2005
18
                     Delete, wrong post
May 09th 2005
21
                          RE: Delete, wrong post
May 09th 2005
22
                RE: Typical ignoramous liberal!
May 15th 2005
108
                     RE: Typical ignoramous liberal!
May 15th 2005
110
What Donald Mercado wrote
May 09th 2005
13
But surely this is a tick of the university system...
May 11th 2005
54
      It goes deeper than that
May 12th 2005
80
           RE: It goes deeper than that
May 12th 2005
81
                RE: It goes deeper than that
May 12th 2005
82
RE: Racist discourse and paternalism.
May 09th 2005
14
RE: ahh..peace
May 09th 2005
25
Wait, are black people capable of being self normative?
May 09th 2005
26
RE: and that's what i was saying...but because im white..hatorade...
May 09th 2005
27
Considering the topic, you shoulda expected your argument to be moot
May 09th 2005
28
      RE: Considering the topic, you shoulda expected your argument to be moot
May 09th 2005
29
           I'll help you out BarTek
May 10th 2005
35
           RE: I'll help you out BarTek
May 10th 2005
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                RE: I'll help you out BarTek
May 10th 2005
43
                RE: That right there is...
May 10th 2005
45
                     RE: That right there is...
May 10th 2005
48
                That's the problem, you're not on the frontline!
May 10th 2005
50
                     RE: That's the problem, you're not on the frontline!
May 11th 2005
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                          RE: That's the problem, you're not on the frontline!
May 11th 2005
56
           I dunno the original poster's motivation
May 10th 2005
37
but isn't being 'Black' the meat of discussion
May 10th 2005
30
      then why not just take 'Black' out the equation?
May 10th 2005
38
           RE: then why not just take 'Black' out the equation?
May 10th 2005
49
                RE: then why not just take 'Black' out the equation?
May 11th 2005
61
                     RE: then why not just take 'Black' out the equation?
May 11th 2005
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                          RE: then why not just take 'Black' out the equation?
May 11th 2005
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                               RE: then why not just take 'Black' out the equation?
May 11th 2005
77
I think you are twisting the argument...
May 10th 2005
32
      thanks for summing that up.
May 10th 2005
33
      The original post would be better off supporting your post
May 10th 2005
36
      *claps*
May 10th 2005
39
      RE: not so fast....
May 10th 2005
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      RE: Hmmmmmm....
May 10th 2005
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           This is why this post was made
May 10th 2005
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           RE: wrong again!
May 10th 2005
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                RE: wrong again!
May 10th 2005
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                     Oh c'mon now-be nice.
May 10th 2005
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                     RE: wrong again!
May 10th 2005
52
                          Seek counseling
May 11th 2005
55
                               This is so true:
May 11th 2005
57
                               So on this reasoning if I give an educated opinion on
May 11th 2005
59
                               If its your opinion...probably so
May 11th 2005
63
                                    You're restricting the meaning of 'opinion' to 'two cents worth'
May 11th 2005
65
                                         your academic theory is based on what?
May 11th 2005
69
                                              This is a weak analogy...
May 11th 2005
70
                                                   I think i'd be able to differentiate to some extent
May 11th 2005
72
                                                   Point noted
May 11th 2005
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                                                        RE: Point noted
May 11th 2005
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                                                             Then last question...
May 12th 2005
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                                                                  Hey man!!
May 13th 2005
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                                                                  Lol...
May 13th 2005
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                                                                  RE: Then last question...
May 13th 2005
90
                                                                       Another example in post 92
May 13th 2005
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                                                                       Whoops!
May 13th 2005
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                                                                            RE: Whoops!
May 13th 2005
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                                                                            RE: Whoops!
May 13th 2005
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                                                                            Then I'll address it...
May 14th 2005
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                                                                            RE: Then I'll address it...
May 14th 2005
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                                                                            Wrong IF
May 14th 2005
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                                                                            RE: Wrong IF
May 14th 2005
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                                                                            RE: Wrong IF
May 14th 2005
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                                                                            Huh?!?
May 14th 2005
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                                                                            RE: Huh?!?
May 15th 2005
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                                                                            RE: Huh?!?
May 15th 2005
109
                                                                            RE: Huh?!?
May 17th 2005
114
                                                                            This response if very disappointing
May 17th 2005
115
                                                                            Jumping in...
May 17th 2005
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                                                                            Thank You
May 17th 2005
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                                                   RE: This is a weak analogy...
May 11th 2005
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                                                        You either like the to and fro'
May 11th 2005
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                               RE: You're not worth my time,
May 11th 2005
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           ?
May 11th 2005
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           Thats nice and all
May 11th 2005
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                RE: Thats nice and all
May 11th 2005
66
                     thats a lot of scrolling
May 11th 2005
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                          RE: what i think of that conversation...
May 12th 2005
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.
May 11th 2005
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RE: Archive!
May 12th 2005
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RE: Racist discourse and paternalism.
May 13th 2005
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He was as racist as they come.
May 13th 2005
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      RE: He was as racist as they come.
May 13th 2005
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      Yes
May 13th 2005
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           RE: Yes
May 16th 2005
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      RE: He was as racist as they come.
May 13th 2005
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           Racism is easy to prove
May 13th 2005
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                well stated...
May 14th 2005
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                RE: Racism is easy to prove
May 16th 2005
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                     It's clear you dont know what racism is
May 16th 2005
113
That is presumptious...
May 14th 2005
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From #116
May 17th 2005
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let's hear more from the prophet on this, tell me oh ye of wisdom...
Jun 07th 2005
119
Question
Jun 07th 2005
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      RE: Question
Jun 07th 2005
121
and what the hell is the black condition?
Jun 07th 2005
122

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