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24. "RE: well "asian" is plainly less accurate"
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>firstly,
>-I can't tell the difference between Korean, Chinese,
>Japanese, Tibetan, Vietnamese (and others) people readily,
>they have a similar skin tone (and other physical features)

THATS NOT MY FAULT. LIKE RAWSOUTHPAW SAID IM NOT SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR IGNORANCE. I KNOW THE DIFFERENCES THEY'RE PRETTY OBVIOUS. WHITE PEOPLE HAVE THESE ETHNIC PHYSICAL DIFFERENCES TOO, JUST MOST WHITE PEOPLE DONT EVER THINK OF THEMSELVES AS DIFFERENT, AS ABNORMAL, AS MOST PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE FORCED TO AT A VERY YOUNG AGE THEREFORE WE ARE VERY AWARE AND SENSITIVE TO PHYSICAL DIFFERENCES. SINCE DAY ONE I HAVE BEEN VERY AWARE OF THE FACT THAT I AM DIFFERENT THAN MOST OTHER PEOPLE AROUND ME BECAUSE OF MY PHYISCAL DIFFERENCE, THAT IS SOMETHING WHITE PEOPLE RARELY HAVE TO FEEL BECAUSE THEY CAN GO MOST PLACES AND SEE THEMSELVES ALL AROUND THEM. TURN ON THE TV AND SEE SO MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF WHITE PEOPLE. I TURN ON THE TV AND SEE ONLY A NARROW DEPICTION OF ASIAN MEN. WEAK, NON-ROMANTIC, KUNG-FU. WOW IM TOTALLY BREAKING THE DAMAJA APART.

>-I can't tell the difference between Indian and Pakistani
>people, they have a similar skin tone (and other physical
>features)
>-The two groups mentioned above, however, ARE distinctive
>from eachother
>-So it's a problem if you use the same term "asian" for both
>of them
>
STILL NOT MY PROBLEM, THATS YOUR PROBLEM. LEARN THE DIFFERENCES. LET IT BE A PROJECT OF YOURS.

>secondly,
>-I said "political correctness" is calling people what they
>want to be called
>-you said political correctness is just some term white
>people use to dismiss stuff, and that you should call people
>what they want to be called.
>-Does that seem somewhat circular to you?

UH... LET ME SEE..NO! NO AND NO! CIRCULAR THINKING IS ONE PERSON MAKING A STATEMENT THEN EXPLAINING REASONS LEADING TO A POINT THAT CONCLUDE WITH THIS FIRST STATEMENT. I HAVE REFUTED YOUR DEFINITION OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, OUR POINTS NEVER MEET, HENCE NO CIRLCE. YOU'VE SEEN A CIRCLE RIGHT? ITS ONE LINE THAT CONNECTS TO ITS 2 POINTS. IF YOU NEED AN EXAMPLE OF CIRCULAR THINKING WATCH ANY BUSH SPEECH. YOU'LL SEE PLENTY EXAMPLES OF CIRCULAR THINKING. ARE YOU A FRESMAN IN COLLEGE, WHITE, TRYING TO RESIST ALL THAT REFUTES THE NOTION THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT, THE CENTER OF THE WORLD, ETC? YOU'RE LOSING THE COUNTRY RIGHT?
>
>thirdly,
>You DIDN'T break down what's wrong with "oriental"... other
>than you don't want to be called it. And if you maintain
>that you did, I ask you to repeat it for my sake

HERE IT IS, READY, READING?? "ORIENTAL" MEANS SAVAGE, MYSTERIOUS, CHING-CHONG, GONGS, OPIUM BROTHELS, KUNG-FU, IMPOTENT, WEAK, MUTE, SLANTED EYES, ABNORMAL, NON-INTELLECTUAL, ALL INSTINCUAL, SENSUAL, RELATING TO ANIMALISTIC BEHAVIORS ETC. ALL NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES. READ THE BOOK THAT PINK PANTHO STATES IN THE NEXT POST. IT WILL ENLIGHTEN YOU SO YOU CAN STOP POSTING IGNORANT MESSAGES ABOUT THE WORD"ORIENTAL."
>
>fourthly,
>I wouldn't call someone something they didn't like, to their
>face
>but if I've got an acquaintence from India and a friend from
>China, except I don't know their exact nationalities, then I
>am going to say "asian" and "oriental" to describe them (or
>maybe far-eastern or east easian interchangably)

WHY DONT YOU USE THEIR NAMES TO DESCRIBE THEM. OR YOU COULD JUST SAY INDIAN AND CHINESE. IS THAT TOO HARD? ASIAN IS A BLANKET TERM TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE THAT COME FROM A CERTAIN REGION OF THE WORLD. I AM ASIAN, JAPANESE WHITE, FRENCH GERMAN, IRISH, AMERICAN ALL OF THESE THINGS. OH

5THLY
THE TERM "ASIAN-AMERICAN" IS USED TO CREATE POLITICAL POWER, TO INSTILL SELF-ESTEEM, TO FEEL APART OF SOMETHING FINALLY, TO NOT FEEL ABNORMAL OR THE "OTHER" OR "ORIENTAL." YOU SEEM TO BE VERY IGNORANT OF ASIAN-AMERICANS, OF POLITICALLY PROGRESSIVE ASIAN-AMERICANS. PLEASE ALLOW YOURSELF TO LEARN. YOUR'E THE ONE WHO ASKED A QUESTION, REMEMBER. I ASSUME YOU WANTED AN ANSWER OR MAYBE YOU JUST WANTED TO SAY POLITICAL CORRECTNESS A MILLION TIMES TO PROVE THAT ASIAN AMERICAN IS NOT REAL AND ORIENTAL IS THE TRUE ACCURATE WORD TO DESCRIBE A PEOPLE. SORRY YOUR'E WRONG DAMAJA. OHH

6THLY
DONT USE THAT NAME "DAMAJA" ITS A BITE AND A DISGRACE TO JERU. YOUR'E FAR MORE IGNORANT THAN HE IS.

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some honest questions about the words "oriental" and "asian" [View all] , Jon, Fri Mar-04-05 04:46 AM
 
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oriental literally means 'eastern'
Mar 04th 2005
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up! cause this is a good conversation
Mar 04th 2005
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"oriental" means eastern
Mar 04th 2005
2
lol.
Mar 04th 2005
3
RE:
Mar 04th 2005
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but
Mar 04th 2005
8
      Colonization in Asia
Mar 14th 2005
70
sure thing, gringo
Mar 04th 2005
7
cosign
Mar 04th 2005
10
I say Asian
Mar 04th 2005
5
my question to you is
Mar 04th 2005
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      i use asian because
Mar 04th 2005
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           lol i was looking for more creativity
Mar 05th 2005
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                another word/ i wasn't singling you out
Mar 05th 2005
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RE: some honest questions about the words "oriental" and "asian"
Mar 04th 2005
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RE: some honest questions about the words "oriental" and "asian"
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RE: some honest questions about the words "oriental" and "asian"
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      RE: some honest questions about the words "oriental" and "asian"
Mar 05th 2005
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that's not where the word comes from
Mar 05th 2005
41
"asian" is inadequate... and isn't it even MORE of an invention?
Mar 04th 2005
13
RE: "asian" is inadequate... and isn't it even MORE of an invention?
Mar 04th 2005
14
      well "asian" is plainly less accurate
Mar 04th 2005
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           in your example some more enlightened news orgs
Mar 04th 2005
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           I forgot about them
Mar 04th 2005
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                "asian" is virtually void of national/political connotations
Mar 04th 2005
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                     RE:
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           RE: well "asian" is plainly less accurate
Mar 04th 2005
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                RE: well "asian" is plainly less accurate
Mar 04th 2005
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                          calm down
Mar 05th 2005
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                          RE: calm down
Mar 05th 2005
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                               RE: calm down
Mar 07th 2005
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                                    RE: calm down
Mar 08th 2005
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                          that's a mad doggie
Mar 05th 2005
27
Read "Orientalism" by Edward Said
Mar 04th 2005
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RE: Read "Orientalism" by Edward Said
Mar 09th 2005
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RE: some honest questions about the words "oriental" and "asian"
Mar 05th 2005
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however
Mar 05th 2005
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the people who use the word asian for themselves are usually Americans o
Mar 05th 2005
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let me clarify myself
Mar 05th 2005
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      RE: let me clarify myself
Mar 07th 2005
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           RE: let me clarify myself
Mar 08th 2005
46
i found a difference between NZ and the UK with this word
Mar 05th 2005
35
how in the world is
Mar 05th 2005
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if they're from India, call them Indian
Mar 05th 2005
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      ummm....asia
Mar 05th 2005
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RE: i found a difference between NZ and the UK with this word
Mar 05th 2005
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that's sort of similar to the US actually
Mar 05th 2005
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RE: some honest questions about the words
Mar 08th 2005
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oh my goodness
Mar 08th 2005
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hey, that's pretty much exactly what i was saying.
Mar 11th 2005
60
oh and btw, could you tell me what these mean:
Mar 08th 2005
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      RE: oh and btw, could you tell me what these mean:
Mar 08th 2005
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           thanks, i'm going to
Mar 08th 2005
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                RE: thanks, i'm going to
Mar 08th 2005
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                     well
Mar 08th 2005
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and the politics of the minority name game...
Mar 09th 2005
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u in here dropping dimes....up dammit.
Mar 09th 2005
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she didn't explain anything
Mar 10th 2005
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      read it again
Mar 10th 2005
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RE: and the politics of the minority name game...
Mar 11th 2005
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      thank you
Mar 11th 2005
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According to an Asian
Mar 11th 2005
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they're south east asian
Mar 11th 2005
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      RE: they're south east asian
Mar 11th 2005
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           because your boy's right
Mar 12th 2005
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                RE: because your boy's right
Mar 15th 2005
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RE: some honest questions about the words "oriental" and "asian"
Mar 11th 2005
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RE: some honest questions about the words "oriental" and "asian"
Mar 11th 2005
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RE: Amerie (who's part korean), says it best....
Mar 13th 2005
68
      Chicago has a freakin puerto rican radio dj as well?
Mar 14th 2005
69
Wow another Thai American on the boards
Mar 15th 2005
71
I just say Asian
Mar 16th 2005
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