>>>nah the word "oriental" was created by Europeans, but it was
>>>comes from the word "orient" to orient oneself. so what it
>>>really relates to is a perspective of being the center, such
>>>as europeans thought europe was the center of the world.
>>
>>i disagree with this conclusion. to orient oneself with that
>>which is outside, does not imply that you think you're the
>>center of the world. the word "oriental" is a part of a
>>language of a people (england), for whom everything outside
>>of europe IS outside of their origin. it makes perfect sense
>>for someone from house A to look at the houses around them
>>and say "these houses are outside and around us" without
>>thinking that their own house is the center of the town.
>
>I never think of my house as the center of town. if you dont
>realize that you are a piece of a bigger whole you have a
>narrow ignorant view of the world and ignorance leads to
>fear, it leads to negative stereotypes. That is a completely
>stupid argument.

when did i say anything positive about thinking of your house as the center of town. i said RESIDENTS of a particular house look at the houses around them as being "the houses around them" and THEN i SPECIFICALLY said that it does NOT mean they think they're the center of town, just because they refer to the houses outside and around them as the houses outside and around them. damn read better.

>>It does if you know anything about history. Europeans created >the idea of the "savage" anything not white and "pure." Thus >oriental became associated with these negative connotations of >savage, non-intellectual.

well, so basically what you're saying is when a european-language-speaking person uses a european word, they're promoting things europeans did and therefore, even when speaking english, should not use the words the english used for things. ???

>I dont understand whats "silly" about replacing "oriental" >with "asian." Why are you tripping about that? You didnt really >explain.

think about it for 2 seconds without getting emotional.


>oh and asia is a
>different continent than the continent that iraq is on.

end of discussion.