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26291, RE: well "asian" is plainly less accurate
Posted by explizit, Fri Mar-04-05 07:20 PM
>firstly,
>-I can't tell the difference between Korean, Chinese,
>Japanese, Tibetan, Vietnamese (and others) people readily,
>they have a similar skin tone (and other physical features)

THATS NOT MY FAULT. LIKE RAWSOUTHPAW SAID IM NOT SUPPOSED TO BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOUR IGNORANCE. I KNOW THE DIFFERENCES THEY'RE PRETTY OBVIOUS. WHITE PEOPLE HAVE THESE ETHNIC PHYSICAL DIFFERENCES TOO, JUST MOST WHITE PEOPLE DONT EVER THINK OF THEMSELVES AS DIFFERENT, AS ABNORMAL, AS MOST PEOPLE OF COLOR ARE FORCED TO AT A VERY YOUNG AGE THEREFORE WE ARE VERY AWARE AND SENSITIVE TO PHYSICAL DIFFERENCES. SINCE DAY ONE I HAVE BEEN VERY AWARE OF THE FACT THAT I AM DIFFERENT THAN MOST OTHER PEOPLE AROUND ME BECAUSE OF MY PHYISCAL DIFFERENCE, THAT IS SOMETHING WHITE PEOPLE RARELY HAVE TO FEEL BECAUSE THEY CAN GO MOST PLACES AND SEE THEMSELVES ALL AROUND THEM. TURN ON THE TV AND SEE SO MANY DIFFERENT KINDS OF WHITE PEOPLE. I TURN ON THE TV AND SEE ONLY A NARROW DEPICTION OF ASIAN MEN. WEAK, NON-ROMANTIC, KUNG-FU. WOW IM TOTALLY BREAKING THE DAMAJA APART.

>-I can't tell the difference between Indian and Pakistani
>people, they have a similar skin tone (and other physical
>features)
>-The two groups mentioned above, however, ARE distinctive
>from eachother
>-So it's a problem if you use the same term "asian" for both
>of them
>
STILL NOT MY PROBLEM, THATS YOUR PROBLEM. LEARN THE DIFFERENCES. LET IT BE A PROJECT OF YOURS.

>secondly,
>-I said "political correctness" is calling people what they
>want to be called
>-you said political correctness is just some term white
>people use to dismiss stuff, and that you should call people
>what they want to be called.
>-Does that seem somewhat circular to you?

UH... LET ME SEE..NO! NO AND NO! CIRCULAR THINKING IS ONE PERSON MAKING A STATEMENT THEN EXPLAINING REASONS LEADING TO A POINT THAT CONCLUDE WITH THIS FIRST STATEMENT. I HAVE REFUTED YOUR DEFINITION OF POLITICAL CORRECTNESS, OUR POINTS NEVER MEET, HENCE NO CIRLCE. YOU'VE SEEN A CIRCLE RIGHT? ITS ONE LINE THAT CONNECTS TO ITS 2 POINTS. IF YOU NEED AN EXAMPLE OF CIRCULAR THINKING WATCH ANY BUSH SPEECH. YOU'LL SEE PLENTY EXAMPLES OF CIRCULAR THINKING. ARE YOU A FRESMAN IN COLLEGE, WHITE, TRYING TO RESIST ALL THAT REFUTES THE NOTION THAT WHITE PEOPLE ARE RIGHT, THE CENTER OF THE WORLD, ETC? YOU'RE LOSING THE COUNTRY RIGHT?
>
>thirdly,
>You DIDN'T break down what's wrong with "oriental"... other
>than you don't want to be called it. And if you maintain
>that you did, I ask you to repeat it for my sake

HERE IT IS, READY, READING?? "ORIENTAL" MEANS SAVAGE, MYSTERIOUS, CHING-CHONG, GONGS, OPIUM BROTHELS, KUNG-FU, IMPOTENT, WEAK, MUTE, SLANTED EYES, ABNORMAL, NON-INTELLECTUAL, ALL INSTINCUAL, SENSUAL, RELATING TO ANIMALISTIC BEHAVIORS ETC. ALL NEGATIVE STEREOTYPES. READ THE BOOK THAT PINK PANTHO STATES IN THE NEXT POST. IT WILL ENLIGHTEN YOU SO YOU CAN STOP POSTING IGNORANT MESSAGES ABOUT THE WORD"ORIENTAL."
>
>fourthly,
>I wouldn't call someone something they didn't like, to their
>face
>but if I've got an acquaintence from India and a friend from
>China, except I don't know their exact nationalities, then I
>am going to say "asian" and "oriental" to describe them (or
>maybe far-eastern or east easian interchangably)

WHY DONT YOU USE THEIR NAMES TO DESCRIBE THEM. OR YOU COULD JUST SAY INDIAN AND CHINESE. IS THAT TOO HARD? ASIAN IS A BLANKET TERM TO DESCRIBE PEOPLE THAT COME FROM A CERTAIN REGION OF THE WORLD. I AM ASIAN, JAPANESE WHITE, FRENCH GERMAN, IRISH, AMERICAN ALL OF THESE THINGS. OH

5THLY
THE TERM "ASIAN-AMERICAN" IS USED TO CREATE POLITICAL POWER, TO INSTILL SELF-ESTEEM, TO FEEL APART OF SOMETHING FINALLY, TO NOT FEEL ABNORMAL OR THE "OTHER" OR "ORIENTAL." YOU SEEM TO BE VERY IGNORANT OF ASIAN-AMERICANS, OF POLITICALLY PROGRESSIVE ASIAN-AMERICANS. PLEASE ALLOW YOURSELF TO LEARN. YOUR'E THE ONE WHO ASKED A QUESTION, REMEMBER. I ASSUME YOU WANTED AN ANSWER OR MAYBE YOU JUST WANTED TO SAY POLITICAL CORRECTNESS A MILLION TIMES TO PROVE THAT ASIAN AMERICAN IS NOT REAL AND ORIENTAL IS THE TRUE ACCURATE WORD TO DESCRIBE A PEOPLE. SORRY YOUR'E WRONG DAMAJA. OHH

6THLY
DONT USE THAT NAME "DAMAJA" ITS A BITE AND A DISGRACE TO JERU. YOUR'E FAR MORE IGNORANT THAN HE IS.