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k_orr
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40. "RE: Do we have more access?"
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>Or just a different method of
>getting at the same old
>material

Napster is a good example. Everyone has a record store, but few people have the funds to afford everything that they want to hear. But I won't go down this path today.

>True but at some level, big
>business or government still plays
>a role in providing the
>ability to use those services.

The back bones yes. But folks are already putting together guerilla networks. For about 2 grand, you can set up a your own wireless nodes for a network. There are projects in the North West, in which Mac Airports have been hacked, and the folks are setting up their own private nets. Again this ain't for everyone, but there are folks working to get outside of those parameters.

>In what way? It can
>be more than those things
>in some areas but it
>also can be LESS.

For instance?

>I'm taking it a little further
>than that, I think.
>Its not about free search
>engines or newsgroups...

>its about who controls those groups,
No one controls the usenet. As long as you have access to a newsserver...

>who controls the the fiber,

Fibers are vulnerable. You can operate outside of fibers though. You can operate computer networks wirelessly. It's not as efficient, at this point though.

The idea of the net is very dangerous for the power structures. The information to opt out of the net is in it's infancy stages, but it will happen.

>Its also about awareness....as more &
>more people gain access &
>more & more people develop
>a web presence, the quantity
>of the information limits individual
>visibility.

It depends on how you view it. Instead of having to recieve my news from 1 newspaper, 2 wire services, and 3 net works, I now have the option of getting it from a myriad of sources. Principle wise, it can't really be stopped. Tech wise is another question.

>The information can be
>there but whats the point
>if no one knows.

Zero link sites. I feel you on that. But it's the same way it is now. Most folks don't know what they're state rep is doing, or how they are voting, with our without the net.

You
>still are tied to the
>standard principles of marketing &
>promotion - you just have
>a larger audience.

Wrong direction. We shouldn't be trying to build a large well organized and defined structure. There should be no central meeting place for Af Am's online. www.black.com/militant or www.black.com/sell_out...

Yes, we'll
>have faster & more access
>to information but faster &
>more are only relative to
>those running along side us.

So the disconnect is me telling my folks who aren't online what is going on?

>>I have a feeling we will see that end in the next 10 years.
>
>Yes, not to mention, we can
>& some are being monitored
>today.

FBI's Carnivore. I'm sure they've got a file on me now. But it's not different than it was before. FICO #'s (a way to calculate credit ratings) is far more deterimental to me and you than anything we say online. And that's a private net.

>>No doubt, but access to information is a far better weapon
>>than we've had before.
>
>Yes, if we can find it,
>trust it, and control it.
>There isn't a plan in
>place for that.

It, is us. Which is where I'm coming from. You can put your info up, and connect with other like minded heads.

peace
k. orr

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Myth of the Digital Divide? [View all] , k_orr, Wed Jan-24-01 06:51 AM
 
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a side issue
Jan 24th 2001
1
telephone lines?
Jan 24th 2001
3
      yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
4
           RE: yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
5
           let's not get away
Jan 24th 2001
6
           RE: let's not get away
Jan 26th 2001
30
                agree w/ everything except:
Jan 26th 2001
34
                     it's not bad
Jan 26th 2001
35
           it's like having a typewriter
Jan 24th 2001
7
                RE: it's like having a typewriter
Ruslanchik
Jan 24th 2001
8
           a note:
Jan 24th 2001
11
                Lets compare apples to apples
Jan 25th 2001
17
                     um....
Jan 25th 2001
19
                          RE: um....
Jan 25th 2001
22
                               I would bet $$$...
Jan 25th 2001
23
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Jan 24th 2001
2
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sierra
Jan 24th 2001
9
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sporatic
Jan 24th 2001
10
      What needs are unmet in the typical black home?
Jan 25th 2001
13
           What for?
Jan 25th 2001
28
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
31
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
33
                     Do we have more access?
Jan 26th 2001
36
                         
The Digital Experiment
Jan 24th 2001
12
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
14
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
15
Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
16
RE: Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
18
      honestly...
Jan 25th 2001
20
a few thoughts...
Jan 25th 2001
21
Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
24
RE: Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
25
K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 25th 2001
26
will internet access be just another way
Jan 25th 2001
27
RE: will internet access be just another way
Jan 26th 2001
29
      Then how will it differ from tv?
Jan 26th 2001
37
           Dj screw
Jan 26th 2001
38
RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
32
      RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
39
           RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
41
It's just a tool!
Jan 26th 2001
42
This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
43
      RE: This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
44
education
Jan 29th 2001
45
Revisiting this question in 2005...I think there is a divide.
Mar 09th 2005
46
Technology is just a tool
Mar 10th 2005
53
      lol 4yrs later, how's the center doing?
Mar 11th 2005
54
           I was curious too.
Mar 12th 2005
55
           It's still there, still open
Mar 12th 2005
56
Anti-intellectualism?
Mar 10th 2005
47
this post is 4 years old
Mar 10th 2005
48
      Hooooly shit.
Mar 10th 2005
51
      Yeah...I though about that
Mar 10th 2005
52
What's particularly intellectual about being online?
Mar 10th 2005
49
WHOAH...there are 2 Nahymsa's at this site
Mar 10th 2005
50

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