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34. "agree w/ everything except:"
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> Seriously, if schools can't buy
>new books and
>teachers have to buy their own
>paper, pencils,
>etc., where are they getting the
>money to buy
>computers and all the $$$ that
>goes
>with it.

ever wonder what companies to with older obsolete models? they give them away. i know, because i've been in contact with MY own (and several other) companies to secure some boxes. 99.9 are in 100% corking condition and they're totally free.

it's one of those untapped (at least by us) resources.

that said, even with the money they DO get and decide to spend I tend to think the computers are a long term investment. even when they get obsolete -- you can have vocational classes where you teach upgrading. i don't mean to gloss over the cost issues, but that need not be a wall instead of a hurdle. of course computers aren't a necessity, but then again neither is a phone or a tv (or some jordans, of dkny jeans, etc). if you can't keep your lights on a computer isn't going to do jack for ya -- that's real. this discussion was initially about priorities and why so many folk DON'T prioritize differently (particularly in our culture where temporary material investment superseeds others).

the "digital divide" does exist (again), the question -- which a few are working on as we speak -- it what do we do about it?

i'll conclude thusly:

computers are by no means a panacea (and neither is internet access). BUT, they are a valuable tool which can ease many of the problems we face educationally -- if taught and used correctly. i don't promote the idea that if you put a computer in every classroom or home that magically the playing field will be leveled, nor do i front the idea that the use of the net should replace human interaction. just like a tv or a phone, it's a tool
and little more. i'd just like to see the potential for the usage of this tool to be realized/utilized until the net becomes a wasteland like the broadcast airwaves.
many of the reasons we select to stay away from the use of this tool are faulty, and the longer we wait to examine their usage the further behind we'll get. in a world where there are DEFINTE roadblocks to advancement, this is one small area where we can take initiative and overcome/avoid future and current hurdles.

good post k_orr

(this is definitely one for the archives)

  

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Myth of the Digital Divide? [View all] , k_orr, Wed Jan-24-01 06:51 AM
 
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a side issue
Jan 24th 2001
1
telephone lines?
Jan 24th 2001
3
      yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
4
           RE: yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
5
           let's not get away
Jan 24th 2001
6
           RE: let's not get away
Jan 26th 2001
30
               
                     it's not bad
Jan 26th 2001
35
           it's like having a typewriter
Jan 24th 2001
7
                RE: it's like having a typewriter
Ruslanchik
Jan 24th 2001
8
           a note:
Jan 24th 2001
11
                Lets compare apples to apples
Jan 25th 2001
17
                     um....
Jan 25th 2001
19
                          RE: um....
Jan 25th 2001
22
                               I would bet $$$...
Jan 25th 2001
23
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Jan 24th 2001
2
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sierra
Jan 24th 2001
9
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sporatic
Jan 24th 2001
10
      What needs are unmet in the typical black home?
Jan 25th 2001
13
           What for?
Jan 25th 2001
28
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
31
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
33
                     Do we have more access?
Jan 26th 2001
36
                          RE: Do we have more access?
Jan 26th 2001
40
The Digital Experiment
Jan 24th 2001
12
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
14
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
15
Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
16
RE: Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
18
      honestly...
Jan 25th 2001
20
a few thoughts...
Jan 25th 2001
21
Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
24
RE: Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
25
K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 25th 2001
26
will internet access be just another way
Jan 25th 2001
27
RE: will internet access be just another way
Jan 26th 2001
29
      Then how will it differ from tv?
Jan 26th 2001
37
           Dj screw
Jan 26th 2001
38
RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
32
      RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
39
           RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
41
It's just a tool!
Jan 26th 2001
42
This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
43
      RE: This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
44
education
Jan 29th 2001
45
Revisiting this question in 2005...I think there is a divide.
Mar 09th 2005
46
Technology is just a tool
Mar 10th 2005
53
      lol 4yrs later, how's the center doing?
Mar 11th 2005
54
           I was curious too.
Mar 12th 2005
55
           It's still there, still open
Mar 12th 2005
56
Anti-intellectualism?
Mar 10th 2005
47
this post is 4 years old
Mar 10th 2005
48
      Hooooly shit.
Mar 10th 2005
51
      Yeah...I though about that
Mar 10th 2005
52
What's particularly intellectual about being online?
Mar 10th 2005
49
WHOAH...there are 2 Nahymsa's at this site
Mar 10th 2005
50

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