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41. "RE: K.orr... a better question may be"
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>come on hon, you know the
>most rabid net users can
>be very computer illerate.

True dat. But they are ahead of the folks who aren't online at all. I've fixed many a "broken" computer in my day...

>In terms of employment, it
>can be an asset if
>developed along with other more
>critical skills.

Typing alone can be useful in and of itself. It just depends on what kind of job and economy you are looking at.

>>Personally, I think it's (internet) a lot
>>like a cell phone. You don't need one, but
>>when you have it, you realize how useful it is.
>>(I"m cell phone free, though).
>
>True. Though, I'm finding that my
>cell is as much of
>a shackle as it is
>an asset - especially at
>work.

hence why i'm still shackle free.

>Computers & the net aren't used
>like any of the other
>gadgets you listed.

Primary usage of the net for most folks
- email
- chat rooms
- discussion boards

If folks can get hype over typing to each other on a motorola 2 way pager, I don't see a big jump between that and coming to Okayplayer. I don't expect to hit the club tomorrow, and folks are breaking out their visors and talking about open source, but it's really just a matter of time.

>They aren't social gathering
>points - like a tv/dvd/video
>game in the living room.

A phone isn't a people node either.

> Computers & the net
>require a different type of
>interaction, dont ya think.

It really depends on what you are doing with the computer. Playing Tetris/solitaire is a seemingly very enjoyable activity of my elders. Why I don't know. But my younger folks love them some playstation. Doing the same thing online is not a big step for them.

Chatting, discussion boards, is really a side step to those big 3 way caller sessions I used to do in high school.

Now if you're talking about hunting down drivers, warez, or learning to be an MSCE online, that's something else. Not many folks are ready for that, and the loners/outsiders in our community will probably be the first to tackle it.

>I think we do, but less
>& less as time goes
>on.

It's strange, but down here I've talked to some brothers who never question the things they do everyday, and i've talked to brothers who think outside the box. But i'm going to have to really collect my thoughts on it though.

>true but aren't we using our
>discretion in this area or
>do you believe that most
>of us just don't know
>better.

I'm not sure what it is. Changing out an alternator is tougher than putting together a computer. I don't think folks really know what is available. Or they get on and can't figure out what the hype is about. That's the main danger I see. Folks not realizing what they could do with access.

>When I didn't have
>the internet, i couldn't wait
>to get it, now sometimes
>I wish I didn't have
>it.

It's no longer a luxury for me. Any kind of economic decision I make now, is thoroughly researched. Maps, product reviews, history, music.. But I know with this respect I'm very much an anomaly, and a product of this town and my experience.

>I wouldn't have mine either.
>But many business in the
>new media industry are notoriously
>wasteful with unproductive workers.

Management's problem, not the net.

Right
>now the entire industry is
>on shaky foundation, and I
>think more layoffs are on
>the way.

It depends on where you are in the online world. If I was working at 360hiphop.com, and I was not an IT or CS person, I would be getting my portfolio together.


>The government is hiring the hacks.

No worse. the quasi/pseudo governments (multinational corporations) are hiring the hacks.

>The brightest "criminals" will always
>come up with new ways
>to skin a cat but
>most users wouldn't have the
>capacity to break into Fort
>Knox or the capacity to
>stop government/corporate intrusion & monitoring.

People adapt. Video cameras that catch speeders are notoriously effective. How come they aren't everywhere? The technology has existed since the last 60's, yet you only find them in a few places. It's a killer ap, definite money maker, yet unused.

>>But is this an actual concern of folks you know?
>
>Yeah, well atleast a lot of
>them my Godbody brethren.
>But I think they articulate
>concerns that a lot of
>us have.

Privacy is the #1 issue, as far as i'm concerned.

peace
k. orr

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Myth of the Digital Divide? [View all] , k_orr, Wed Jan-24-01 06:51 AM
 
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a side issue
Jan 24th 2001
1
telephone lines?
Jan 24th 2001
3
      yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
4
           RE: yeah but
Jan 24th 2001
5
           let's not get away
Jan 24th 2001
6
           RE: let's not get away
Jan 26th 2001
30
                agree w/ everything except:
Jan 26th 2001
34
                     it's not bad
Jan 26th 2001
35
           it's like having a typewriter
Jan 24th 2001
7
                RE: it's like having a typewriter
Ruslanchik
Jan 24th 2001
8
           a note:
Jan 24th 2001
11
                Lets compare apples to apples
Jan 25th 2001
17
                     um....
Jan 25th 2001
19
                          RE: um....
Jan 25th 2001
22
                               I would bet $$$...
Jan 25th 2001
23
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Jan 24th 2001
2
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sierra
Jan 24th 2001
9
RE: Myth of the Digital Divide?
Sporatic
Jan 24th 2001
10
      What needs are unmet in the typical black home?
Jan 25th 2001
13
           What for?
Jan 25th 2001
28
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
31
                RE: What for?
Jan 26th 2001
33
                     Do we have more access?
Jan 26th 2001
36
                          RE: Do we have more access?
Jan 26th 2001
40
The Digital Experiment
Jan 24th 2001
12
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
14
RE: The Digital Experiment
Jan 25th 2001
15
Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
16
RE: Hmmmmmm
Jan 25th 2001
18
      honestly...
Jan 25th 2001
20
a few thoughts...
Jan 25th 2001
21
Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
24
RE: Some Facts
Jan 25th 2001
25
K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 25th 2001
26
will internet access be just another way
Jan 25th 2001
27
RE: will internet access be just another way
Jan 26th 2001
29
      Then how will it differ from tv?
Jan 26th 2001
37
           Dj screw
Jan 26th 2001
38
RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
32
      RE: K.orr... a better question may be
Jan 26th 2001
39
          
It's just a tool!
Jan 26th 2001
42
This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
43
      RE: This is what I'm saying.
Jan 27th 2001
44
education
Jan 29th 2001
45
Revisiting this question in 2005...I think there is a divide.
Mar 09th 2005
46
Technology is just a tool
Mar 10th 2005
53
      lol 4yrs later, how's the center doing?
Mar 11th 2005
54
           I was curious too.
Mar 12th 2005
55
           It's still there, still open
Mar 12th 2005
56
Anti-intellectualism?
Mar 10th 2005
47
this post is 4 years old
Mar 10th 2005
48
      Hooooly shit.
Mar 10th 2005
51
      Yeah...I though about that
Mar 10th 2005
52
What's particularly intellectual about being online?
Mar 10th 2005
49
WHOAH...there are 2 Nahymsa's at this site
Mar 10th 2005
50

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