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utamaroho

Sun Jan-21-01 06:22 PM

  
55. "RE: Westerner does not equal white."
In response to In response to 47


          

"REAL RECOGNIZE REAL, and even more than that, the fake, they REALLY REALLY recognize REAL!" -BlackThought

>>I guess this whole argument would be clarified if you laid out what you think these harmful ideals distinct to Western culture are.

when you read the posts i made, as Solarus already posted, this war against black and whites came up, also i never made mention of killing ANYBODY at all. so here's one aspect of western culture that is problematic 1) it's ability not to think metaphorically/allegorically/abstractly, ways which spiritual people have obtained informatin about the cosmos for CENTURIES. and 2) upon meeting these abstract concepts, applying an elementary western template on top of it to ATTEMP to understand it all. what happens as a result? you FUCK up and never get it at all. then try to come up with some sorry as substitute like Masonry, Metaphysical Bookstores, and New Age culture clubs to try to convince yourselves of having "understanding". when you apply that template which is the tool you use to get the "closest" understanding possible (still far off the mark though) you universalize it and apply it on a global level. global in the sense that it gets incorporated into the western view of everything which becomes another part of the arsenal used to justify your points which had no sound base in the first place!

how you did it: 1)assuming i was talking about killing people, perhaps because of the word "destroy", you then 2)incorporate that with previous data, i.e. Hitler, a symbol of physical destruction by western standards. 3) seeing this as a means to strenghthen already established belief of me wanting to kill, you then make this statement about a "white on black" war even though race really never applied anywhere in my posts. 4) separating yourself from that war you become a "nonpartisan" observer which gives you a for lack of a better word, a "god" perspective. this allows you to 5) universalize the instances of "evil" which have plagued the world in "every" society. thus making ignorant staments like those you will again attempt to justify on Monday. i've sat back and witnessed this phenomenon so much it's easy to predict it before it even happens. matter of fact, the night i read that i KNEW Solarus was gonna see it and respond like he did so i went home.

DENMARK VESEY

An ex-slave of a slave trader, he knew the wickedness of slavery and that man was not meant to slave for man. It got to the point where Vesey couldn't bear to have a white person in his presence. He was very outspoken with his hatred for YT. When slaves bowed to YT in the street, he would rebuke them. When the slaves replied, "But we're slaves," Vesey would reply, "You deserve to be slaves." An infamous quote of Vesey was when he said, "We are free, but the white people here won't let us be so; and the only way is to raise up and fight the whites." One of his plans was to takeover of arsenals, guardhouses, powder magazines and naval stores in Charleston, South Carolina, but, he too, was betrayed by a house negro. Vesey and 5 of his aides were hanged on July 2, 1822.


  

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revolution: what are you fightin' for? [View all] , Beyond_Levels, Thu Jan-18-01 12:06 PM
 
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RE: revolution: what are you fightin' for?
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
1
Wow...
Jan 18th 2001
3
RE: Wow...
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
6
      All I can say is...
Jan 18th 2001
7
           RE: All I can say is...
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
11
                Let's start with the obvious...
Jan 18th 2001
15
                     This is more than a little harsh...
Jan 18th 2001
16
                     RE: This is more than a little harsh...
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
18
                          Yup.
Jan 18th 2001
22
                               what in tha...
Jan 18th 2001
29
                                    Matrix...
Jan 18th 2001
30
                                         whoa
Jan 19th 2001
31
                                              Why?
Jan 19th 2001
41
                     RE: Let's start with the obvious...
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
17
                          Never mind...
Jan 18th 2001
23
                          You're Terrible
Marinera
Jan 22nd 2001
59
                               Don't bother...
Jan 22nd 2001
61
                          I can't believe..........
insomnia
Jan 23rd 2001
63
RE: revolution: what are you fightin' for?
Beyond_Levels
Jan 18th 2001
4
RE: revolution: what are you fightin' for?
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
10
RE: revolution: what are you fightin' for?
yinka
Jan 19th 2001
36
I AGREE
apexNYC
Jan 19th 2001
37
RE: revolution: what are you fightin' for?
derby
Jan 19th 2001
39
not quite
yinka
Jan 19th 2001
40
i asked b/c
Beyond_Levels
Jan 19th 2001
42
what would u replace it with?
yoshiaki
Jan 20th 2001
53
Truth
KoalaLove
Jan 18th 2001
2
Yeah...
Jan 18th 2001
5
fighting for
audiovisuals
Jan 18th 2001
8
There it is...n/m
Jan 18th 2001
9
RE: fighting for
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
12
And there is nothing wrong
Jan 19th 2001
33
RE: fighting for
Phraktal
Jan 18th 2001
13
RE: fighting for
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
14
RE: fighting for
Phraktal
Jan 18th 2001
19
      RE: fighting for
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
20
      no, no, no
apexNYC
Jan 18th 2001
21
           Westerner does not equal white.
Jan 18th 2001
24
           RE: Westerner does not equal white.
apexNYC
Jan 18th 2001
27
                RE: Westerner does not equal white.
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
28
                     RE: Westerner does not equal white.
apexNYC
Jan 19th 2001
34
                          RE: Westerner does not equal white.
utamaroho
Jan 19th 2001
43
                               RE: Westerner does not equal white.
apexNYC
Jan 19th 2001
47
                                    Do you need help coming out?
Jan 20th 2001
50
                                   
                                    To add to what Solarus and utamaroho said...
dysfunctmonk
Jan 22nd 2001
62
           RE: no, no, no
utamaroho
Jan 18th 2001
26
                RE: no, no, no
apexNYC
Jan 19th 2001
35
      not looking to be provided for
audiovisuals
Jan 22nd 2001
58
zackly
audiovisuals
Jan 22nd 2001
56
Absolutely
Marinera
Jan 22nd 2001
60
      good question
audiovisuals
Jan 23rd 2001
66
Couldn't resist...
Jan 18th 2001
25
God, Bless the Child
Jan 19th 2001
32
its obvious
Jan 19th 2001
38
      who was this remark...
Beyond_Levels
Jan 19th 2001
44
      why is that?
apexNYC
Jan 19th 2001
45
      RE: why is that?
utamaroho
Jan 19th 2001
46
           RE: why is that?
apexNYC
Jan 19th 2001
48
                Misunderstanding
Jan 20th 2001
49
                     RE: Misunderstanding
booby_trap_the_sniper
Jan 20th 2001
51
                          RE: Misunderstanding
utamaroho
Jan 20th 2001
54
      I don't get it
Jan 22nd 2001
57
western civilizations
booby_trap_the_sniper
Jan 20th 2001
52
Power doesn't equal problems
dysfunctmonk
Jan 23rd 2001
64
Fight 4 di yoots!
Jan 23rd 2001
65
what am I fighting for?
Jan 30th 2001
67
plagues of ignorance
lusciousDivya
Jan 31st 2001
68

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