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39. "clarifying:"
In response to In response to 37


  

          

>>the dumbass mother..
>
>she's dumb for smoking/drinking while pregnant,
>but "exercising her rights" if
>she decides to kill her
>baby? if it's a "non-rights
>having" fetus, why should we
>be able to "force" her
>not to smoke/drink if that's
>her "choice"?

IMO she's dumb depending on the circumstances:
if she's trying to have the child, and she chooses to use drugs, then she's a dumbass
if she's having an abortion because she/he didn't use protection, then she is a dumbass....its still her right to be a dumbass though


>>...community
>>pressure would be more effective
>
>isn't that exactly what the bill
>is trying to instantiate? at
>least on a very high
>level?

legal authority given by government vs. community........not quite the same (I see where you are going though)





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Unborn Victims of Violence Act [View all] , SankofaII, Tue May-15-01 07:24 AM
 
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whats wrong with.......
May 15th 2001
1
they have tried this before
May 15th 2001
2
      RE: they have tried this before
May 15th 2001
3
           what about her rights to do so ?
May 15th 2001
4
                RE: what about her rights to do so ?
May 15th 2001
5
                is the fetus a person?
May 15th 2001
7
                     ?s
May 15th 2001
8
                     for grins
May 15th 2001
9
                          as a matter of fact
May 15th 2001
10
                          odd criteria indeed....
May 15th 2001
14
                               apples/oranges
May 15th 2001
23
                                    RE: apples/oranges
May 15th 2001
27
                                         perhaps
May 15th 2001
35
                                              I hear you....
May 15th 2001
38
                          RE: for grins
May 15th 2001
12
                               think about that
May 15th 2001
13
                                    just trying
May 15th 2001
16
                briefly
May 15th 2001
6
                     not really...
May 15th 2001
11
                          no?
May 15th 2001
15
                               smoke & drink.....
May 15th 2001
17
                                    but that's not what i said
May 15th 2001
18
                                    I know....just clarifying 2/3rds of it.....
May 15th 2001
21
                                    partly correct
May 15th 2001
24
                                         so true
May 15th 2001
26
                                    agreed
May 15th 2001
19
                                    example(s)?
May 15th 2001
20
                                         example(s)?
May 15th 2001
22
                                    RE: smoke & drink.....
May 15th 2001
25
                                         who says?
May 15th 2001
28
                                              solution
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29
                                              that's assault & battery
May 15th 2001
30
                                                   nah...
May 15th 2001
31
                                                   lol
May 15th 2001
32
                                                        huh?
May 15th 2001
37
                                                            
                                              RE: who says?
May 15th 2001
33
                                                   what legal precendent?
May 15th 2001
34
                                                        RE: what legal precendent?
May 15th 2001
36
                                                             to reply....
May 15th 2001
40
                                                                  some fetus's do have rights:
May 17th 2001
42
as a pregnant woman
May 15th 2001
41

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