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28. "RE: hmmmmm"
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>this is all quite disturbin.....yall will
>make statements like...
>
>"i dont like the soulquarians",
>"LWFC is boring",
>"Voodoo is repetitive",
>"LWFC sounds like the Roots"....and those
>that makes these statements, EACH
>AND EVERY SINGLE EFFIN time,
>anyone, from quest to any
>other player challenges your statement,
>people do the "ad homenim"
>(makin your opinion what is
>right and wrong.....if i think
>it, it must be true)
>that shit is wack, and
>is called informal logic, and
>goes no where in a
>debate

I agree 100%.. you gotta know what you're speaking of and just saying "i don't like it" isn't really a qualifier.



>....its like saying, well i dont
>support the death penalty cause
>i feel its mean....LIKE WTF...come
>to the hole with your
>best shit, or expect to
>be the cat in the
>poster that got dunked on........

I almost think that people have gotten too used to the wack shit that has been coming out lately, that they've been brainwashed... and when they get approached w/ some horns and some xylophones, they don't know how to react. It's as thought somebody let out the cat, and they aint even trying to find it, they'd rather just BITCH..

>i dunno, it seems like yall
>are pickin at straws, understand
>that the Soulquarians are replayin
>breaks, and doin loops, durin
>a time, when that shit
>is not possible due to
>samplin laws.(see above)...ahmir told me
>this after a Roots show,
>when i asked him about
>his cynicsm at the end
>of "TRCA" "due to
>the asanine wall street esque
>samplin laws.....)....that shit boggled my
>mind....and make me mad effin
>sad.....yall wonder why hip-hop is
>dead...hmm...like Ego Trip said, "cant
>kill somethin thats already dead"

like I alluded to in another post, I think that the simplistic ways of LWFC (simplistic in terms of, not trying to shine over Common; i know there are a lot of technicalities that go on in the background, that I'm not even finitely aware of.) are done on purpose to help Common shine lyrically. I know peeps are listening for the beats most of the time (I know I always am... on the real), but this album really made me change a little bit of that.. in terms of listening for lyrics a little more and paying more attention... ).. If we start listening to JUST beats, we get ignorant yo (perhaps, I'm ignorant because of my love for beats... and strictly that, but half the battle of knowledge is realizing you need to learn and open your mind... some cats here aren't willing to do that...)..


>but where do we go from
>here?!....give up.....sorry yall, im a
>taurus, but even i find
>myself wantin to give up
>on this shit and listen
>to the classics........but....when you hear
>an album like "LWFC" it
>gives you that feelin that
>there may be a whisper
>in a loud ass genre....and
>we wanna amplify that whisper...well
>at least i do......

I hope we aint talking the Q-Tip-type "Amplified"..


>so where do we go....."EW WHERE
>IS NO ID...BLAH BLAH BLAH"
>i love noid and dug
>inf more than anyone, i
>was listenin to "res..." the
>other day, and you simply
>cant make a song like
>"chapter 13..." nowadays...so do you
>give up, or go back
>pick up instruments, and do
>that shit for yourself?

Man, dilemma galore. I remember I told my dad once, that I was pissed that they never taught me how to play an instrument.. no matter what the hell it was.. a piano, a cello, a flute, a damn comb w/ some tissue over it... (ok ok, i'm stretching it now..).. It's so much harder when you DO the ish, that, that's why I've learned to be humble.. cuz I can't do a lot of things, so i really can't speak on em.. (criticize, mind you)..



>....dont yall find it mad effin
>interesting that ali sha, jay,
>tip, pete rock, etc are
>learnin how to play instruments,
>even primo on each new
>track, addin a new instrument,

And even the other artists... the Black Eyed Peas, messing around w/ that Native "flute".. that ish is dope..


>on J-Live's "best part" the flute

J-Live. Classic.

>on "mathematics", the nasty guitar

damn, i can't listen to that now..

>on "sixth sense", the flute and
>bass combined...

I love it... that's why I love beats and have been ignorant to lyrics. Cuz of nicely laced tracks like this one.


>....trailblazers dont complain, they take what
>they have and make classic
>shit. So why is
>when the soulqarians do the
>same shit...it becomes...."not hiphop"....if yall
>have a personal difference with
>the album, dont go makin
>general statements about what very
>very little is left with
>hip-hop music!

A good trick I use when listening to stupid people is, not everybody in the world has mastered
a) the art of being humble
b) the art of thinking
c) the art of making coherent points / discussions..

So w/ those people, you just ignore. It's no point wasting your time.

>One Love
>RamXL
>(beat junkie)


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soulquarians.. [View all] , donwill, Thu Mar-30-00 12:41 PM
 
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wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Mar 30th 2000
1
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
_bigheezy_
Mar 30th 2000
2
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Mar 30th 2000
3
what da fuck
_bigheezy_
Mar 30th 2000
5
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
pinoynj
Apr 01st 2000
47
      sampling.......hmmm
Apr 01st 2000
53
           RE: sampling.......hmmm
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
56
           RE: sampling.......hmmm
Apr 04th 2000
66
           RE: sampling.......hmmm
maltone west
Apr 05th 2000
72
           RE: sampling.......hmmm
maltone west
Apr 05th 2000
73
A question:
Mar 30th 2000
4
i told myself i wouldn't respond to you......
Mar 30th 2000
13
I'm Convinced That's What It Is
Quinn
Mar 30th 2000
15
Pharoahe Monch
bugginout!
Mar 31st 2000
39
      RE: Pharoahe Monch
Apr 02nd 2000
65
RE: i told myself i wouldn't respond to you......
Mar 30th 2000
16
AMEN ?UEST!
Mar 31st 2000
20
Dayum ?uest...Preach it..(no jockin here)..but Dayum!!..n/m
Shai4NY
Mar 31st 2000
41
RE: i told myself i wouldn't respond to you......
pinoynj
Apr 01st 2000
48
      well
Apr 01st 2000
52
      RE: well
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
59
           RE: well
Apr 02nd 2000
62
           Puny and everyone else.
Apr 05th 2000
67
      Is this a joke?
JDET313
Apr 05th 2000
77
      PREEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 05th 2000
78
      Let's spread that love...
Apr 07th 2000
108
      OMAR PONY WHATEVER.........
Apr 05th 2000
80
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
rewind
Mar 30th 2000
14
repetittive?
P!
Apr 01st 2000
44
      Right? How is Thelonius NOT Hip Hop . . .
Apr 05th 2000
68
Wow, ?uest..
Mar 30th 2000
7
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
MosCommonWhiteBoy
Mar 30th 2000
9
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Villain
Mar 30th 2000
12
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Mar 31st 2000
19
That drummer is getting Vixed with the Truth.
Mar 30th 2000
17
whole nother direction
Mar 31st 2000
18
      oh, okay
Mar 31st 2000
21
      kev.....
Apr 01st 2000
42
           RE: kev.....
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
60
           EFF THIS!!!
Apr 05th 2000
69
                Tinky?
Apr 05th 2000
70
                i hear you...
Apr 05th 2000
81
                     reassuring, bennie....
Apr 05th 2000
86
                          oh yeah...
Apr 05th 2000
89
                               don't eff with this....
Apr 05th 2000
92
                                    look kid...
Apr 06th 2000
100
                                         Ya'll are bugging
Apr 06th 2000
101
                                         lemme guess....
Apr 06th 2000
102
      RE: whole nother direction
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
58
           who you speakin for?
Apr 05th 2000
75
           Ignorance is bliss
Apr 05th 2000
88
                G'won grrl!
Apr 06th 2000
94
                     quoting Beenie
Apr 06th 2000
95
                          RE: quoting YOU
Apr 07th 2000
106
Why does FIRE insist on torturing herself?
Mar 31st 2000
24
RE: Why does FIRE insist on torturing herself? The real one!
Mar 31st 2000
25
"Lessons" Posts from Ahmir
BEN
Mar 31st 2000
31
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Midnight_Son
Apr 01st 2000
51
the reason why ?uest is qool
Apr 02nd 2000
54
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
infinite7
Apr 05th 2000
74
??
Apr 05th 2000
83
"Let the congregation say AMEN!!!!!"
Apr 05th 2000
87
Hmm...I missed that...
Apr 07th 2000
109
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Rocketeer
Apr 05th 2000
93
correct if i'm wrong....
Mar 30th 2000
6
Try reading quest's posts...
Supreme
Mar 30th 2000
8
read below please
Mar 30th 2000
10
      Grand Daddy IU.....
Mar 30th 2000
11
           RE: Grand Daddy IU.....
SqueegeeXM
Mar 31st 2000
33
                RE: Grand Daddy IU.....
DanjaRoom1
Apr 06th 2000
96
tell me
Mar 31st 2000
22
There's an entire post on this in the Lesson
Mar 31st 2000
34
ill tell you again
Apr 01st 2000
43
RE: ill tell you again
Apr 01st 2000
46
RE: ill tell you again
micah
Apr 06th 2000
105
I'll tell u...
JDET313
Apr 05th 2000
79
      This guy above me is Jay Dee in disguise...
Apr 05th 2000
84
           If you get any smarter
Apr 05th 2000
85
           RE: This guy above me is Jay Dee in disguise...
Apr 06th 2000
97
                Thanks ?uest
Apr 06th 2000
104
hmmmmm
Mar 31st 2000
23
Retrospection
infinite eternal
Mar 31st 2000
27
I was gonna spit some fire too, but.......
Apr 05th 2000
76
RE: hmmmmm
Mar 31st 2000
38
A universal reply by Okayplayer Goldbond
Mar 31st 2000
26
Stop Defending yall s&#^ wtf
Mar 31st 2000
30
RE: soulquarians..
Jihad
Mar 31st 2000
29
don't sweat this shit.....
Mar 31st 2000
32
RE: don't sweat this shit.....
pinoynj
Apr 01st 2000
50
      i will never join the dark side....
Apr 02nd 2000
55
      RE: i will never join the dark side....
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
57
      How can you be an authority on Hip Hop
Apr 05th 2000
71
Soulquarians good compared to what???
Mar 31st 2000
35
i skimmed the 35 responses..
Mar 31st 2000
36
RE: Soulquarians good compared to what???
pinoynj
Apr 01st 2000
49
one more thing..
Mar 31st 2000
37
Soulquarians' style is born but let them grow, Okay !
Mar 31st 2000
40
RE: Soulquarians' style is born but let them grow, Okay !
sabotage
Apr 01st 2000
45
      Okayquote #3030
Apr 02nd 2000
61
The funny thing is..
Apr 02nd 2000
63
Oh, man, stop the "cross-dissing"
Apr 07th 2000
110
To the cats that feel Soulquarians are.....
Apr 02nd 2000
64
I would like to announce
Apr 05th 2000
82
I think I've found the answer!
conceited_bastard
Apr 05th 2000
90
Final Thoughts (Like it matters...)
Apr 05th 2000
91
RE: Final Thoughts (Like it matters...)
dwhite
Apr 06th 2000
98
RE: Final Thoughts (Like it matters...)
Apr 07th 2000
111
RE: Final Thoughts (Like it matters...)
dwhite
Apr 06th 2000
99
RE: soulquarians..
Apr 06th 2000
103
soulaquarians...
Apr 07th 2000
107

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