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91. "Final Thoughts (Like it matters...)"
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I've read all of the responses and the comments (not an easy task, timewise) and have marinated a little bit on things.

I think the big reason for some of the adverse reactions to the Soulquarians is summed up best by something that Pinoynj/Omar wrote:

"I just can't digest what you (?uestlove/Soulquarians) feeding me this time."

The people that pick up "Voodoo" and "LWFC" are all at different stages in their understandings of music, life, etc.

Just like a newborn, some folk have to have things in a simpler form to get the most out of them at the time.

Think of the best damn meal your mom has ever made.

Now that meal may have been the dopest thing ever concocted in a kitchen, but would you ever try to feed that to a newborn? Hell no!

But just 'cause that newborn really isn't ready to get it's mouth on that dish, does it mean that that meal is any less dope? Hell no!

Just because you either don't, can't, or aren't capable of feeling Voodoo or LWFC (at this time) doesn't mean that either LP is wack, not innovative, or whatever labels you're trying to tag on it.

Maybe it'll take a week, a month, or a lifetime to completely feel them, but in no way does that erase the merit of each effort by the Soulquarians.

Another thing that seems to be popping up frequently is that the LPs are "repetitive."

Just like ?uestlove (summary--repetitive in comparison to what?) and donwill (summary--it's the carving of a signature sound) mentioned, there's a reason that the albums and their songs within each album sound, for lack of a better word, similar.

Using LWFC for an example--

Comparing LWFC to the majority of Hip Hop releases currently out is like comparing the 3 hours of Kubrick's "2001" to 3 hours of episodes of "The Simpsons." (I love both 2001 and The Simpsons)

Most Hip Hop albums today have an emcee spitting over a smattering of different producer's works. There's nothing wrong with it, in fact, it enables "heads" from all persuasions to get a load of what that emcee is about. For the most part though, in my opinion, there really isn't communication going on between the different producers on what direction the emcee is trying to take or what the emcee's vision (correct me if I'm wrong AND if you can cite specific examples). Most people working on projects have a preoccupation with getting something out that's "hot."

That's where Com came different with LWFC. He had something specific he wanted to do with LWFC and enlisted the help of those he felt could best achieve that. From what I've read, it seems that the project was decently tight knit from the outset and followed through all the way.

The 2001/Homer Analogy?

It's cool to see the Simpsons banter and carry on through various wacky exploits within 30 minutes and see them get funky in another 30 minutes within situations set down by different sets of writers. But seeing all 3 hours of "2001," a movement in and of itself, is something that, in my eyes, is more about experiencing something in its wholeness and not just spectating fragments.

So what people seem to be labeling as "boring" or "repetitive," is really just a work that is nearly defined by its cohesiveness, something that, as of late, doesn't come along very often in the music world, much less the Hip Hop Nation.

My last point (if these can be called points) concerns the Rakim definition of MCing which someone brought up. It's one of my favorite definitions, in fact, and the idea is that someone is on a stage transfusing their essence through the mic and out the speakers to the crowd and having that crowd respond with a certain degree of connection to the energy and craziness of the show. If you've ever experienced that than you've witnessed a true emcee.

But what about after the jam, when the ringing of your ears finally fades and you have to get back to the grind of the life that you live on the daily. You still moving?

To me, that's where Com and the Soulquarians come in...having a lasting impact on whoever will give their ish a listen. To move the crowd beyond the circumstances of the moment and into the realization that for some people this music is life--that to me is truly the Next Movement.

Peace,
Mosaic

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As expected, drummer Questlove is playing on all tracks on the album. He comments, "Well, actually, I just hit each drum once and sample it, but it has to be a drum hit from me. I pour peanut butter all over my snare and put a live weasel in my kick drum to get that classic sound."
--?uestlove's production techniques for okayartist Trick Daddy's new album according to dollarcab

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soulquarians.. [View all] , donwill, Thu Mar-30-00 12:41 PM
 
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wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Mar 30th 2000
1
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
_bigheezy_
Mar 30th 2000
2
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Mar 30th 2000
3
what da fuck
_bigheezy_
Mar 30th 2000
5
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
pinoynj
Apr 01st 2000
47
      sampling.......hmmm
Apr 01st 2000
53
           RE: sampling.......hmmm
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
56
           RE: sampling.......hmmm
Apr 04th 2000
66
           RE: sampling.......hmmm
maltone west
Apr 05th 2000
72
           RE: sampling.......hmmm
maltone west
Apr 05th 2000
73
A question:
Mar 30th 2000
4
i told myself i wouldn't respond to you......
Mar 30th 2000
13
I'm Convinced That's What It Is
Quinn
Mar 30th 2000
15
Pharoahe Monch
bugginout!
Mar 31st 2000
39
      RE: Pharoahe Monch
Apr 02nd 2000
65
RE: i told myself i wouldn't respond to you......
Mar 30th 2000
16
AMEN ?UEST!
Mar 31st 2000
20
Dayum ?uest...Preach it..(no jockin here)..but Dayum!!..n/m
Shai4NY
Mar 31st 2000
41
RE: i told myself i wouldn't respond to you......
pinoynj
Apr 01st 2000
48
      well
Apr 01st 2000
52
      RE: well
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
59
           RE: well
Apr 02nd 2000
62
           Puny and everyone else.
Apr 05th 2000
67
      Is this a joke?
JDET313
Apr 05th 2000
77
      PREEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAACCCCCCCHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!
Apr 05th 2000
78
      Let's spread that love...
Apr 07th 2000
108
      OMAR PONY WHATEVER.........
Apr 05th 2000
80
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
rewind
Mar 30th 2000
14
repetittive?
P!
Apr 01st 2000
44
      Right? How is Thelonius NOT Hip Hop . . .
Apr 05th 2000
68
Wow, ?uest..
Mar 30th 2000
7
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
MosCommonWhiteBoy
Mar 30th 2000
9
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Villain
Mar 30th 2000
12
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Mar 31st 2000
19
That drummer is getting Vixed with the Truth.
Mar 30th 2000
17
whole nother direction
Mar 31st 2000
18
      oh, okay
Mar 31st 2000
21
      kev.....
Apr 01st 2000
42
           RE: kev.....
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
60
           EFF THIS!!!
Apr 05th 2000
69
                Tinky?
Apr 05th 2000
70
                i hear you...
Apr 05th 2000
81
                     reassuring, bennie....
Apr 05th 2000
86
                          oh yeah...
Apr 05th 2000
89
                               don't eff with this....
Apr 05th 2000
92
                                    look kid...
Apr 06th 2000
100
                                         Ya'll are bugging
Apr 06th 2000
101
                                         lemme guess....
Apr 06th 2000
102
      RE: whole nother direction
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
58
           who you speakin for?
Apr 05th 2000
75
           Ignorance is bliss
Apr 05th 2000
88
                G'won grrl!
Apr 06th 2000
94
                     quoting Beenie
Apr 06th 2000
95
                          RE: quoting YOU
Apr 07th 2000
106
Why does FIRE insist on torturing herself?
Mar 31st 2000
24
RE: Why does FIRE insist on torturing herself? The real one!
Mar 31st 2000
25
"Lessons" Posts from Ahmir
BEN
Mar 31st 2000
31
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Midnight_Son
Apr 01st 2000
51
the reason why ?uest is qool
Apr 02nd 2000
54
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
infinite7
Apr 05th 2000
74
??
Apr 05th 2000
83
"Let the congregation say AMEN!!!!!"
Apr 05th 2000
87
Hmm...I missed that...
Apr 07th 2000
109
RE: wanna know why? i'll tell you why......
Rocketeer
Apr 05th 2000
93
correct if i'm wrong....
Mar 30th 2000
6
Try reading quest's posts...
Supreme
Mar 30th 2000
8
read below please
Mar 30th 2000
10
      Grand Daddy IU.....
Mar 30th 2000
11
           RE: Grand Daddy IU.....
SqueegeeXM
Mar 31st 2000
33
                RE: Grand Daddy IU.....
DanjaRoom1
Apr 06th 2000
96
tell me
Mar 31st 2000
22
There's an entire post on this in the Lesson
Mar 31st 2000
34
ill tell you again
Apr 01st 2000
43
RE: ill tell you again
Apr 01st 2000
46
RE: ill tell you again
micah
Apr 06th 2000
105
I'll tell u...
JDET313
Apr 05th 2000
79
      This guy above me is Jay Dee in disguise...
Apr 05th 2000
84
           If you get any smarter
Apr 05th 2000
85
           RE: This guy above me is Jay Dee in disguise...
Apr 06th 2000
97
                Thanks ?uest
Apr 06th 2000
104
hmmmmm
Mar 31st 2000
23
Retrospection
infinite eternal
Mar 31st 2000
27
I was gonna spit some fire too, but.......
Apr 05th 2000
76
RE: hmmmmm
Mar 31st 2000
28
RE: hmmmmm
Mar 31st 2000
38
A universal reply by Okayplayer Goldbond
Mar 31st 2000
26
Stop Defending yall s&#^ wtf
Mar 31st 2000
30
RE: soulquarians..
Jihad
Mar 31st 2000
29
don't sweat this shit.....
Mar 31st 2000
32
RE: don't sweat this shit.....
pinoynj
Apr 01st 2000
50
      i will never join the dark side....
Apr 02nd 2000
55
      RE: i will never join the dark side....
pinoynj
Apr 02nd 2000
57
      How can you be an authority on Hip Hop
Apr 05th 2000
71
Soulquarians good compared to what???
Mar 31st 2000
35
i skimmed the 35 responses..
Mar 31st 2000
36
RE: Soulquarians good compared to what???
pinoynj
Apr 01st 2000
49
one more thing..
Mar 31st 2000
37
Soulquarians' style is born but let them grow, Okay !
Mar 31st 2000
40
RE: Soulquarians' style is born but let them grow, Okay !
sabotage
Apr 01st 2000
45
      Okayquote #3030
Apr 02nd 2000
61
The funny thing is..
Apr 02nd 2000
63
Oh, man, stop the "cross-dissing"
Apr 07th 2000
110
To the cats that feel Soulquarians are.....
Apr 02nd 2000
64
I would like to announce
Apr 05th 2000
82
I think I've found the answer!
conceited_bastard
Apr 05th 2000
90
RE: Final Thoughts (Like it matters...)
dwhite
Apr 06th 2000
98
RE: Final Thoughts (Like it matters...)
Apr 07th 2000
111
RE: Final Thoughts (Like it matters...)
dwhite
Apr 06th 2000
99
RE: soulquarians..
Apr 06th 2000
103
soulaquarians...
Apr 07th 2000
107

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