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25404, RE: hmmmmm
Posted by jose3030, Fri Mar-31-00 05:48 AM
>this is all quite disturbin.....yall will
>make statements like...
>
>"i dont like the soulquarians",
>"LWFC is boring",
>"Voodoo is repetitive",
>"LWFC sounds like the Roots"....and those
>that makes these statements, EACH
>AND EVERY SINGLE EFFIN time,
>anyone, from quest to any
>other player challenges your statement,
>people do the "ad homenim"
>(makin your opinion what is
>right and wrong.....if i think
>it, it must be true)
>that shit is wack, and
>is called informal logic, and
>goes no where in a
>debate

I agree 100%.. you gotta know what you're speaking of and just saying "i don't like it" isn't really a qualifier.



>....its like saying, well i dont
>support the death penalty cause
>i feel its mean....LIKE WTF...come
>to the hole with your
>best shit, or expect to
>be the cat in the
>poster that got dunked on........

I almost think that people have gotten too used to the wack shit that has been coming out lately, that they've been brainwashed... and when they get approached w/ some horns and some xylophones, they don't know how to react. It's as thought somebody let out the cat, and they aint even trying to find it, they'd rather just BITCH..

>i dunno, it seems like yall
>are pickin at straws, understand
>that the Soulquarians are replayin
>breaks, and doin loops, durin
>a time, when that shit
>is not possible due to
>samplin laws.(see above)...ahmir told me
>this after a Roots show,
>when i asked him about
>his cynicsm at the end
>of "TRCA" "due to
>the asanine wall street esque
>samplin laws.....)....that shit boggled my
>mind....and make me mad effin
>sad.....yall wonder why hip-hop is
>dead...hmm...like Ego Trip said, "cant
>kill somethin thats already dead"

like I alluded to in another post, I think that the simplistic ways of LWFC (simplistic in terms of, not trying to shine over Common; i know there are a lot of technicalities that go on in the background, that I'm not even finitely aware of.) are done on purpose to help Common shine lyrically. I know peeps are listening for the beats most of the time (I know I always am... on the real), but this album really made me change a little bit of that.. in terms of listening for lyrics a little more and paying more attention... ).. If we start listening to JUST beats, we get ignorant yo (perhaps, I'm ignorant because of my love for beats... and strictly that, but half the battle of knowledge is realizing you need to learn and open your mind... some cats here aren't willing to do that...)..


>but where do we go from
>here?!....give up.....sorry yall, im a
>taurus, but even i find
>myself wantin to give up
>on this shit and listen
>to the classics........but....when you hear
>an album like "LWFC" it
>gives you that feelin that
>there may be a whisper
>in a loud ass genre....and
>we wanna amplify that whisper...well
>at least i do......

I hope we aint talking the Q-Tip-type "Amplified".. :)


>so where do we go....."EW WHERE
>IS NO ID...BLAH BLAH BLAH"
>i love noid and dug
>inf more than anyone, i
>was listenin to "res..." the
>other day, and you simply
>cant make a song like
>"chapter 13..." nowadays...so do you
>give up, or go back
>pick up instruments, and do
>that shit for yourself?

Man, dilemma galore. I remember I told my dad once, that I was pissed that they never taught me how to play an instrument.. no matter what the hell it was.. a piano, a cello, a flute, a damn comb w/ some tissue over it... (ok ok, i'm stretching it now..).. It's so much harder when you DO the ish, that, that's why I've learned to be humble.. cuz I can't do a lot of things, so i really can't speak on em.. (criticize, mind you)..



>....dont yall find it mad effin
>interesting that ali sha, jay,
>tip, pete rock, etc are
>learnin how to play instruments,
>even primo on each new
>track, addin a new instrument,

And even the other artists... the Black Eyed Peas, messing around w/ that Native "flute".. that ish is dope..


>on J-Live's "best part" the flute

J-Live. Classic.

>on "mathematics", the nasty guitar

damn, i can't listen to that now.. :(

>on "sixth sense", the flute and
>bass combined...

I love it... that's why I love beats and have been ignorant to lyrics. Cuz of nicely laced tracks like this one.


>....trailblazers dont complain, they take what
>they have and make classic
>shit. So why is
>when the soulqarians do the
>same shit...it becomes...."not hiphop"....if yall
>have a personal difference with
>the album, dont go makin
>general statements about what very
>very little is left with
>hip-hop music!

A good trick I use when listening to stupid people is, not everybody in the world has mastered
a) the art of being humble
b) the art of thinking
c) the art of making coherent points / discussions..

So w/ those people, you just ignore. It's no point wasting your time.

>One Love
>RamXL
>(beat junkie)


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