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Basaglia
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"The Villain Becomes The Hero? I must now defend MJ's legacy"


  

          


My record speaks for itself. Nobody hated on Jordan like me. I was a teen posting on Rec.sport.basketball.pro with Judden and SKF tryna destroy that man's legacy as he was making history night after night. I've never worn the man's shoes. Hell, I legit think I've never TOUCHED a pair. I flat out didn't like the guy. He tried to ruin Isiah and Stern and Falk helped him. I wished terrible things on that man.

All that said, agendas change. I don't like what I see happening in basketball media. The STANDARD was SIX. Nevermind that Kareem had SIX and ALL THEM STATS! I accepted the charade and sat my ass here and rooted for Shaq, Duncan, Kobe, ANYONE who could come close to matching the STANDARD that MJ set. Let's be clear, I only accepted it because my legit criticism about the era in which MJ played, the bum teams he faced in the finals, how he only shined when Bird, Isiah and Magic got old...all that got shot down and laughed off.

Cool.

But, now, I see people tryna throw SIX out the window and highlight LONGEVITY (KAREEEEEEM!!!!!), triple doubles (the most overrated stat in sports, as Euro-influenced positionless basketball has put the ball on the hands of big ass skill players 70% of the time...I will not be one of y'all cysing Jokic like his big soft ass is a legend......these guys are like the Kirk Cousins and Alex Smiths of basketball...all numbers...no thank you) and FINALS APPEARANCES (somehow, same people laugh at Brady whenever he loses a SB, despite having FIVE), I'm gonna make it a priority to restore some damn order. We can't just be changing rules so our faves can get credit.

Bron is top 5 ever. But, he ain't better than no damn Jordan. I saw Jordan and I see this bamma. We not doing this. Before that whole bum ass THREE IS ENOUGH campaign that's going around twitter and the blogs infects this board, I'm drawing the line. Win 3 more and we can talk. It's that's simple.

They really tryna throw Mike in the bushes NOW? After all that hate I put into knocking him down? FOR THIS 3-6 bamma? No way.

I ain't gonna hate LeBron, because he's a far better person than Jordan. But, nobody gonna say he better than Mike without me responding. Unlike unclaimed bags and inappropriate comments from white women at work, if I see it, I'MMA SAY SOMETHING!

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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Issue really is about how Lebron has distanced himself from Kobe
Apr 16th 2018
1
He passed Kobe before he even won a ring and now has him in the dust
Apr 16th 2018
4
This is sad, OE. Let it go.
Apr 16th 2018
5
Kobe not in the GOAT coversation. He top 10 tho.
Apr 16th 2018
7
Cool. n/m
Apr 16th 2018
15
Wait, Kobe couldn't score like LeBron could? Huh?
Apr 16th 2018
8
I know, it's hard to believe. But true.
Apr 16th 2018
14
      RE: I know, it's hard to believe. But true.
Apr 16th 2018
23
           That's the thing: Jordan never finished 2nd in the league in assists.
Apr 17th 2018
49
81 and 5...
Apr 16th 2018
12
lol @ "and 5"
Apr 17th 2018
35
      RE: lol @ "and 5"
Apr 17th 2018
41
who are you arguing with at this point?
Apr 16th 2018
13
It's amazing how sensitive Bron makes fans.
Apr 16th 2018
16
      It’s amazing how Bron stans won’t shut up about Kobe
Apr 17th 2018
46
           U sad Kobe = Dominique Wilkins with better teammates, or naw?
Apr 17th 2018
48
           Listen, Carmelo is trash but you dont need to lash out about it.
Apr 17th 2018
50
                Nah, but foreal: Kobe is Dominique with better teammates
Apr 17th 2018
58
                     What's that make Carmelo?
Apr 17th 2018
60
                          Best Latin-American to ever play. An Icon. : - )
Apr 17th 2018
62
           well, for years we had to endure the "kobe is better!" lamentations.
Apr 18th 2018
70
                YOU brought it up, dummy.
Apr 18th 2018
82
                HE wasnt on board a decade ago either lmao
Apr 18th 2018
84
                     RE: HE wasnt on board a decade ago either lmao
Apr 18th 2018
102
                lots of psychology here
Apr 18th 2018
92
                     LMAO "endured" was...hilarious.
Apr 18th 2018
133
Now taking bets for platinum status. O/U: seven hours.
Apr 16th 2018
2
Oh, I take the over. Big time.
Apr 16th 2018
3
      I keep forgetting.
Apr 16th 2018
28
Which do you hate more
Apr 16th 2018
6
I'm REAL mad I gotta defend Jordan.
Apr 16th 2018
9
better question: would he make this thread if Kyrie were still a Cav?
Apr 16th 2018
10
      Yes, because Kyrie would get blamed for them losing like last year
Apr 16th 2018
11
Not like this, Ba.
Apr 16th 2018
17
i'm not cysing 3 titles over Jordan. Simple as that.
Apr 16th 2018
18
      Who exactly are you cysing over Bron?
Apr 16th 2018
19
           Just Jordan and Kareem, for sure. MAYBE Magic.
Apr 16th 2018
20
                Unfortunately, Lebron is a lot better than Magic, but all good.
Apr 16th 2018
25
Forget Jordan, I still have him behind Kobe, Duncan and maybe Shaq.
Apr 16th 2018
21
LOL. No, you don't.
Apr 16th 2018
24
Huh?
Apr 16th 2018
26
      You don't have those niggas above Lebron. Stop.
Apr 17th 2018
39
           Oh I definitely do. If it's a 7 Game Series and I'm trying to win it...
Apr 17th 2018
42
                Naw, you lying. Love is love, though.
Apr 17th 2018
45
yea i got Dr. J ahead of Bron too. tougher era.
Apr 16th 2018
27
I got George Gervin ahead of Lebron by a finger roll
Apr 16th 2018
29
got david thompson and pistol ahead of him by a nose
Apr 19th 2018
140
      I want James Worthy over Lebron in any important game.
Apr 19th 2018
142
           Big Shot Bron? Nah, gimme Robert Horry
Apr 19th 2018
143
Somebody mentioned Dr. J?
Apr 17th 2018
31
      thats what they do rather than make points, pretend you made fake ones
Apr 17th 2018
32
           It's pretty bizarre. Lol... they be serious too.
Apr 17th 2018
43
                Nigga, you said Kobe better. That's a "fake point" too.
Apr 17th 2018
47
                     You want it to be beyond debate, but it's clearly a sound argument
Apr 17th 2018
53
                          No, you don't.
Apr 17th 2018
57
                          5>3 is not a sound argument.
Apr 19th 2018
144
You're talking about individual talent and career achivements
Apr 17th 2018
44
      If it's old school, you picking a team for a 7 game series...
Apr 17th 2018
54
           Kobe gets you swept. Lebron wins you a series. No debate.
Apr 18th 2018
69
                Kobe's 5-2 in the Finals. Lebron is 3-5 ***shrugs***
Apr 18th 2018
81
                     dudes acting like rings are actually just hypothetical projections
Apr 18th 2018
83
                     Finals MVPs are real things. So how many Kobe got vs. Lebron?
Apr 18th 2018
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                          too bad they dont give out rings for those :(
Apr 18th 2018
107
                               I know, Finals MVPs HARDER to get than rings. Lebron got more.
Apr 18th 2018
109
                     I mean, if we wanna do petty: how many Finals MVPs they got?
Apr 18th 2018
96
                          The ole... "If he didn't win MVP... it don't count!"
Apr 18th 2018
99
                               LMAO! LMAO! LMAO! Nigga YOU brought up chips.
Apr 18th 2018
100
                                    Yeah man... Robert Horry. You sound ridiculous bro.
Apr 18th 2018
101
                                         Yeah man...Kobe, you sound ridiculous bro. LOL
Apr 18th 2018
103
As a 90's Knick fan, I appreciate this post
Apr 16th 2018
22
lol...
Apr 17th 2018
30
i caught myself doing ot a lot over the last few years
Apr 17th 2018
33
That Mavericks loss sealed it for me
Apr 17th 2018
34
The thing that gets me about the MJ comparisons
Apr 17th 2018
36
Jordan's stats and accomplishments are absolutely immune to hyperbole
Apr 17th 2018
37
exactly. the argument cannot even be humored.
Apr 17th 2018
38
Your overall rankings sound fine to me. n/m
Apr 17th 2018
40
I dig the compelling analysis.
Apr 18th 2018
91
exposing the foolish wretched ballhog jordon since '96.
Apr 17th 2018
51
Judden had a whole bamma ass site cyse Wilt over Jordon...LOL
Apr 17th 2018
52
      lmao them jawnts still up, fam...
Apr 17th 2018
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           LMAO!!!!! he ain't updated that shit in 20 years...LMAO!!!!
Apr 17th 2018
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           haha. that's why it's good.
Apr 17th 2018
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           yeah man, we were in the presence of greatness...
Apr 18th 2018
65
                dogg, i still remember finding them groups. so damn good.
Apr 18th 2018
118
           i'm dying. i can't believe it's still up
Apr 18th 2018
78
           tripod.com in 2018?
Apr 19th 2018
148
If Kobe jumped ship to better teams TWICE, he's have 10 rings
Apr 17th 2018
56
If Lebron has prime Shaq and Pau, he'd have 7 (at least)
Apr 17th 2018
59
Kobe wins with LeBron's squad in 2011...
Apr 18th 2018
127
      Lebron wins with Kobe's 2004 and 2008, teams at least.
Apr 19th 2018
146
He actually left a 60+ plus win Cleveland team
Apr 18th 2018
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      ^Damn.
Apr 18th 2018
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      Lol so disingenuous by talking about previous rosters
Apr 18th 2018
128
      and then proclaimed to win championships in the 8+ region
Apr 18th 2018
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      LOL. He beat the 73 win Warriors. Cry, wimp.
Apr 18th 2018
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      Huh? See when you feel the need to lie
Apr 18th 2018
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      So how did Miami do when Lebron left?
Apr 18th 2018
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      smh.
Apr 18th 2018
74
           Okay, so Miami was ass. How did Cleveland do when Lebron arrived?
Apr 18th 2018
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           no, they werent. their best player had to retire at 31. u partying?
Apr 18th 2018
85
                Wade retired? When? And how did Lebron do in his new situation?
Apr 18th 2018
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                Lol caught in a lie...again
Apr 18th 2018
129
                     Wait--Wade retired? And what Lebron do in Cleveland? Remind me.
Apr 18th 2018
135
                Meanwhile Bron led Matthew Dellavedova & Tristan to the Finals
Apr 18th 2018
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                     fixed your lie:
Apr 18th 2018
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                          Bwahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah
Apr 18th 2018
106
           Well - how'd they do though?
Apr 18th 2018
89
                his first healthy year without bron he went to the 2nd round
Apr 18th 2018
104
                     LOL. So Bron been to the finals every year since. Miami? Nope.
Apr 18th 2018
108
                     noted. So if Bron "leads his team to the 2nd round" this year
Apr 18th 2018
110
                          Naw, all those finals in a row DONT COUNT to them, remember?
Apr 18th 2018
116
                          shit is bizarro.
Apr 18th 2018
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                          Wade's HOF big man didnt play. how about Bron's?
Apr 19th 2018
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                               what about when they did play together? .500 ballclub
Apr 19th 2018
145
      I simply stated a set of facts
Apr 18th 2018
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           You're not describing LeBron's teammates, but previous rosters. Liar
Apr 18th 2018
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                I'm describing what those teams accomplished prior to Bron's arrival.
Apr 18th 2018
132
                     Why can't you talk about LeBron's actual teammates tho?
Apr 18th 2018
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                          happy to talk about the roster he played with.
Apr 18th 2018
138
      smh
Apr 18th 2018
73
      so disingenuous.
Apr 18th 2018
80
           it literally happened twice.
Apr 18th 2018
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           so imprecise.
Apr 18th 2018
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           you exaggerate how poor that team was bc it supports your narrative.
Apr 18th 2018
111
                Naw, people are equating "The decision" to Durant's, and its ludicrous.
Apr 18th 2018
114
                lol. bro.
Apr 18th 2018
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                     well we actually read what people say.
Apr 18th 2018
120
                          sure, tinfoil beanie.
Apr 18th 2018
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                               gosh that's creative.
Apr 18th 2018
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                                    19th
Apr 18th 2018
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                You're bloating that team's stature to support your narrative
Apr 18th 2018
121
           Wait -- so what "superteam" did Lebron join in Cleveland?
Apr 18th 2018
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                i didn't say shit about cleveland.
Apr 18th 2018
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                     Lebron has made two huge risky moves, won chips in both.
Apr 18th 2018
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                          the team he joined in miami wasn't as bad as vex pretends it was.
Apr 18th 2018
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                               They're liars...selectively cherrypicking data to support their stannery
Apr 18th 2018
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                               Who cares? It was a huge risk, and he won. Y'all need to cry.
Apr 18th 2018
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                                    Actually moving back to Cleveland was lowering the bar
Apr 18th 2018
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                                         EXACTLY!!! And he WON ANYWAY!! BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHH
Apr 19th 2018
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i'm sorry this has caused so much uppage-inducing butthurtness
Apr 18th 2018
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Nigga. We past passive-aggressiveness. We been friends.
Apr 18th 2018
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i was tryna summon Truth, not you.
Apr 18th 2018
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What's funny is that nobody has actually disagreed w/ your take
Apr 18th 2018
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      since he parted ways with ky? you really are all-in delusional, vex.
Apr 18th 2018
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           or since ky parted ways w/ him -- it's whatever. Time to move on.
Apr 18th 2018
124
Michael Jordan, Kareem, Kobe, Shaq, LeBron. FACTS
Apr 18th 2018
87
Geez, did y'all see this ESPN comparison?
Apr 19th 2018
147

Orbit_Established
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1. "Issue really is about how Lebron has distanced himself from Kobe"
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I think the Lebron-Jordan debate from Lebrononon is
really about highlighting how much closer THEY are
than Lebron is to Kobe.

It's true.

Kobe-Lebron wasn't really even a debate when Kobe was
in his PRIME and Lebron was a KID. Lebron been better
since he was barely in his 20s.

I think that's the real breakthrough here.

As is the understanding that Mr "82 points" can't score like
Lebron can. Lebron is better than Kobe at the only thing we
care about Kobe for. That's true hilarity.

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ConcreteCharlie
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4. "He passed Kobe before he even won a ring and now has him in the dust"
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But nah he ain't better than Jilla, Wilt or Cap and he is getting kind of old to pass them.

Being likely the fourth greatest player of all time is not a slight.

Maybe he can jump on this process train and get three more rings though. Basa's threads have pretty much provided an instant boost to anyone they malign so it's possible.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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Ryan M
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5. "This is sad, OE. Let it go."
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'18-'19 LA Lakers

James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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Basaglia
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7. "Kobe not in the GOAT coversation. He top 10 tho. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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15. "Cool. n/m"
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ConcreteCharlie
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8. "Wait, Kobe couldn't score like LeBron could? Huh?"
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How did I miss that part? LMAO, nah, cmon man.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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14. "I know, it's hard to believe. But true. "
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If Lebron wasn't a team-oriented basketball player,
but was a primary chucker, he would have averaged
35 a game in his sleep.

And Kobe's biggest scoring season came one of
his most mediocre teams, dead in his prime.

Lebron had zero mediocre teams in his prime.

  

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23. "RE: I know, it's hard to believe. But true. "
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that's what's so astounding: that he's pass-first, and still as elite of a scorer as the game has ever seen. The efficiency in his scoring is crazy. He's above 50% for his career from the field - whereas so many volume scorers are in the 45-47% range. He's been scoring with Kareem like efficiency the past few years - and has become a better scorer with age. So many volume scorers just primarily focus on scoring - while Bron is out here working a second full-time job every night.


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Orbit_Established
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49. "That's the thing: Jordan never finished 2nd in the league in assists. "
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Jordan simply didn't have Lebron's court vision.
Not even close.

Lebron's scoring is closer to Jordan's than Jordan's
passing is to Lebron's. Lebron the better rebounder.
And Jordan the better defender.

I am NOT saying Lebron > Jordan.

But when you start looking at Lebron's game it
gets weirdly closer than any sensitive thug wants
to admit.


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12. "81 and 5..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=otCpCn0l4Wo

"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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35. "lol @ "and 5""
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YARDS

  

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41. "RE: lol @ "and 5""
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>
http://www.calisportsnews.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/CFoPk4QXIAE1c0u.png

"June 16th, 1971, Mama gave birth to a hell-raisin' heavenly son..."

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13. "who are you arguing with at this point?"
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just a suggestion, saying Kobe is not top 10 would be more interesting and better at mad-making

  

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16. "It's amazing how sensitive Bron makes fans."
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Particularly Kobe advocates. They were holding on for dear life like 10 years ago to the debate - and since then Bron has not just sped past Kobe on the all-time pantheon list - but has surpassed the greats (Magic, Duncan, Bird, Wilt etc..) to where the only rational argument that can be entertained is Jordan & Kareem.

But really - only Jordan is >. 2011-2018 Bron has been the most dynamic stretch of basketball in a 7 year stint that's arguably ever been seen (I'd love to hear an argument for a 7 year stint that has been more fruitful -- it would've been Jordan had he not retired in the midst of his 3-title book ends).
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46. "It’s amazing how Bron stans won’t shut up about Kobe"
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Despite him “eclipsing Kobe” in his second year or whatever bullshit y’all type. He stays on your brain and it’s weird. Most of us accepted this long ago - it’s not a big deal and zero Laker/Kobe fans said a word about him in this Bron-MJ thread.

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James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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48. "U sad Kobe = Dominique Wilkins with better teammates, or naw? "
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Discuss.

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50. "Listen, Carmelo is trash but you dont need to lash out about it."
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Help is available.

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James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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Orbit_Established
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58. "Nah, but foreal: Kobe is Dominique with better teammates"
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That's not a diss.

But it's true.


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(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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60. "What's that make Carmelo? "
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Cause Kobe is, at worst, a top 15 NBA player of all time. Probably top 10. Cry.

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James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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62. "Best Latin-American to ever play. An Icon. : - ) "
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And Captain America: Winningest international US player ever

Oh yeah you mad

  

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70. "well, for years we had to endure the "kobe is better!" lamentations. "
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Kobe v. LeBron was a hot topic 10 years ago - and some swore to the bone that Bron would never surpass Kobe. But since he did that so long ago, it's really not something to bring up - except for the Hurt Locker Kobe stans who just can't let it go. So if you're wondering why it's still brought up - just look in the mirror.
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82. "YOU brought it up, dummy."
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The rest of the shit you typed is just weird.

So people weren't on board with you a goddamn decade ago.

Get over it.

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'18-'19 LA Lakers

James. Ingram. Ball. Kuzma. Stephenson. Rondo. Caldwell-Pope. Zubac. McGee. Beasely. TBD...

  

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84. "HE wasnt on board a decade ago either lmao"
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so that kinda makes it extra weird

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102. "RE: HE wasnt on board a decade ago either lmao"
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>so that kinda makes it extra weird

not as weird as you auditing my posts to ascertain when i was and wasn't on the boards. Must've made quite the impression.

As Kobe would say: #Obsessed


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92. "lots of psychology here"
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saying someone is better than Bron is a trauma that must be "endured". not only that, even 10 years later, there must be retribution paid for it. there's also the projection of accusing others of doing what he himself is actually doing (bringing up Kobe-Bron comparisons).

i think this is best categorized as 'Lebron Fascism'

  

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133. "LMAO "endured" was...hilarious."
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'18-'19 LA Lakers

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2. "Now taking bets for platinum status. O/U: seven hours."
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All depends on who logs in this afternoon.

Hungry Hippos: The Movie. Now available to read: http://www.russellhainline.com.

  

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3. "Oh, I take the over. Big time."
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This board ain't what it used to be.

It'll go plat, but...36 hours or so.

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28. "I keep forgetting."
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This shit would've gone so quick three or four years ago.

How time flies.

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6. "Which do you hate more"
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Jordan or the fact you feel the need to take that stance?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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9. "I'm REAL mad I gotta defend Jordan. "
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but as much as i want someone to surpass him in my lifetime...not like this.

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10. "better question: would he make this thread if Kyrie were still a Cav?"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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11. "Yes, because Kyrie would get blamed for them losing like last year"
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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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17. "Not like this, Ba. "
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The bitterness is heavy.

Ky is set. Kang is set. They're friends; basketball brothers. Let it go.

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18. "i'm not cysing 3 titles over Jordan. Simple as that. "
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19. "Who exactly are you cysing over Bron?"
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Jordan?
Kareem?
Lafayette Lever?

Nobody out there is really advocating for the position that Bron > Jordan, right today. What many argue is that the totality of Bron's work over the past 15 years is on-par with GOAT activity - only reached by the likes of Jordan/Kareem - and if anybody is going to dethrone MJ, it's LeBron.

The titles thing is funny. 3 titles is an elite mile-marker, and always has been (people used to always tout that Bird had 3 titles as to why he was better than LeBron) - particularly when you were the Finals MVP for all 3 of those titles (second only to Jordan). 3 titles in today's NBA is *a lot*. The way that Bron has won his titles have been prolific - against the top of the very top in all-time competition.

But it's not simply a calculus of titles. It's comprehensive achievement - both as an individual and as a member of a team. The argument for LeBron is that he is the most accomplished individual talent the game has ever seen. To fathom that he could finish as the game's all-time leading scorer (when he's a pass-first playmaker) and top 3 in assists is absurd. That it's even possible is the evidence for his anomalous greatness.

He's #2 All-time. Jordan is his peer.


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20. "Just Jordan and Kareem, for sure. MAYBE Magic. "
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Like I said, he's top 5 for sure.

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25. "Unfortunately, Lebron is a lot better than Magic, but all good. "
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Not really mad at your opinion.


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21. "Forget Jordan, I still have him behind Kobe, Duncan and maybe Shaq."
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***shrugs***

And Kareem over everybody then MJ.

And I like Lebron a lot. Even as recently road with Zeke when punk ass Pippen went at his neck.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=dOgwQ5pmSiQ

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24. "LOL. No, you don't. "
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Just stop.

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26. "Huh?"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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39. "You don't have those niggas above Lebron. Stop. "
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Stop it

  

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42. "Oh I definitely do. If it's a 7 Game Series and I'm trying to win it..."
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I'm not taking Lebron over those guys. Simple as that.

It's not a slight. We're talking in the history of basketball, I'm taking those guys and maybe some others.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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45. "Naw, you lying. Love is love, though. "
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>I'm not taking Lebron over those guys. Simple as that.

You a good nigga

But you lyi


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27. "yea i got Dr. J ahead of Bron too. tougher era."
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29. "I got George Gervin ahead of Lebron by a finger roll"
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140. "got david thompson and pistol ahead of him by a nose"
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bshelly

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142. "I want James Worthy over Lebron in any important game."
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n/m


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143. "Big Shot Bron? Nah, gimme Robert Horry"
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bshelly

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31. "Somebody mentioned Dr. J?"
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32. "thats what they do rather than make points, pretend you made fake ones"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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43. "It's pretty bizarre. Lol... they be serious too. "
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47. "Nigga, you said Kobe better. That's a "fake point" too. "
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Lebron is better at basketball, by 47 miles, than
Kobe Bryant.

It's beyond debate at this point.

  

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53. "You want it to be beyond debate, but it's clearly a sound argument"
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If I gotta win a series, I'm going with Kobe over Lebron. ***shrugs***

And those other guys I mentioned.

I hope they beat the Pacers though.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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57. "No, you don't. "
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You lying breh

  

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144. "5>3 is not a sound argument."
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great math, bad argument.

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44. "You're talking about individual talent and career achivements"
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or just one of the two when you tally up those rankings?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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54. "If it's old school, you picking a team for a 7 game series..."
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I'm going with those guys over Lebron.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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69. "Kobe gets you swept. Lebron wins you a series. No debate. "
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>I'm going with those guys over Lebron.


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81. "Kobe's 5-2 in the Finals. Lebron is 3-5 ***shrugs***"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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83. "dudes acting like rings are actually just hypothetical projections"
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WHAT A TIME TO BE ALIVE

  

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97. "Finals MVPs are real things. So how many Kobe got vs. Lebron? "
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I mean, if you wanna do things that ain't hypothetical,
let's do it.

Kobe been a great sidekick for the majority of his
finals success.

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107. "too bad they dont give out rings for those :("
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109. "I know, Finals MVPs HARDER to get than rings. Lebron got more. "
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EVERYBODY ON THE WINNING TEAM get a ring.

Only the BEST get the MVP.

Lebron been the best more than Kobe has.

Cry about it.


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96. "I mean, if we wanna do petty: how many Finals MVPs they got? "
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Oh.

Why?

Because Kobe was a sidekick for 3 of them shits.

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99. "The ole... "If he didn't win MVP... it don't count!""
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Your argument is wasting away pretty quickly bro.

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100. "LMAO! LMAO! LMAO! Nigga YOU brought up chips. "
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LMAO: I mean, if we rocking with sidekicks, Horry
got both Kobe and Bron, right?

Difference is: Being the MVP mean you wasn't no
sidekick to another nigga.

Kobe a sidekick.

Lebron wasn't.


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101. "Yeah man... Robert Horry. You sound ridiculous bro."
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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103. "Yeah man...Kobe, you sound ridiculous bro. LOL"
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Lebron James was the best player on the floor
for the winning team more times than Kobe was.

So Lebron James was a better player in bigger games
in the NBA Finals than Kobe has been.

It's really not very difficult to understand.

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22. "As a 90's Knick fan, I appreciate this post"
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I hated Jordan. I hated how he took glee in working Starks over. I hated the 'Jordan Rules'. But I still have to say he's the best player I've seen. Two 3-peats isn't something anybody can overlook, regardless of how much you may hate Jordan or love Lebron.

<-- Dave Thomas knows what's up...
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30. "lol..."
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..this is rich.

never change.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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33. "i caught myself doing ot a lot over the last few years"
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but i cant pretend there is no difference between winning and losing

some ppl might be built like that...but nah.

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34. "That Mavericks loss sealed it for me"
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Even if I was willing to cast aside my petty Kobestan agenda (I'm not)...

Even if I could concede that Bron has faced some historically ridiculous Finals teams (I will not)...

I can't look past Dallas.

Jorn simply wouldna let that happen.

Particularly not the WAY it happened.

With that roster and those odds? No way.

I really got in my feelings after the "bum" comment. Was willing to spot my man a chip just because.

But I can't lower the bar, watch you crash into that bar for NO REASON, and then act like it ain't never happened.

It happened. 6 or shut up.

  

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36. "The thing that gets me about the MJ comparisons"
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is the inconsistent comparison of era and help.

-Jordan gets dinged for winning in 'watered down' NBA post expansion but Russell, Magic and Bird don't get dinged for playing on virtual allstar teams (that's like crowning Durant or Curry over LeBron). Wilt doesn't get dinged for being the only 7 footer in a bigoted league that was reluctant to go 'Black' in the 50's/60's. He nor Russell get flack for playing in the league's formative years where there were 8-10 teams and neither gets flack for winning in a 'watered down' league as it began to expand. For Christ's sake, they got a first round bye then had to play two 7 game series to win a title!

The competition was light years behind the late 70's, 80's, 90's, 00's and today. The offensive and defensive schemes changed, the training improved, the caliber of player improved.

-Jordan gets no credit for beating Zeke and Magic eventually because they were 'old' yet Zeke was 29 and Magic 31 when they lost to Jordan (look at these rosters: https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/DET/1991.html, https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/LAL/1991.html ... ages hit like this roster: https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/GSW/2018.html). If there are no Jordan Bulls, the Pistons probably win 3 in a row and face the Lakers for the 2nd time in 3 yrs. The Lakers had a prime Worthy, Perkins, Magic and Scott ALL TOP 5 F*CKIN DRAFT PICKS!. Bulls beat the last two NBA champions back to back to win their first title but detractors give them no credit for it.

*Side note, no one ever discounts the Pistons titles but the Celtics core were all over 30 when the Pistons finally beat them: https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/BOS/1988.html

-Jordan going 6-0 in the finals as the lead guy and a guard at that (which wasn't the norm, the NBA was dominated by bigs before Zeke and to a lesser extent Magic, pushed teams to titles). Winning all 6 finals MVP's.

-Jordan's team did xyz without him after his first retirement. They lost in the 2nd round. I mean, he did leave behind prime Pip and Grant (both 28) who were allstars so they should have won games in the regular season still. Post season ended at the 2nd round though.

-People marvel at what LeBron can do post 30 but Jordan won 3 titles post 30, lead the league in scoring from 32-34, played 38-39mpg each season, DID NOT MISS ONE FRIGGIN' GAME, at age 34 carried the team while Pip missed almost half the year (38 games) during their last title run (finished the year tied with Utah for the best record at 62-20). And though you can see from his numbers (and his game) he was physically declining, he was still the most potent force in the league. Wizards Jordan put up a combo of numbers (21/5.9/4.4/43%FG) that only 6 players in today's NBA equal or surpass (meaning all had this level or better of stats in all of these areas). If you add steals to that list (1.5) only 3 did it.

-Jordan had 2 major injuries his entire career: Broken foot in his second season and torn cartilage in his knee his first year with the Wizards. Outside of those two seasons, Jordan had a possibility to play in 984 games...he played in all but 7. His career minutes avg is above 38 a game.

-Jordan's rookie season was 28/6.5/5.9 and he shot 51% from the field. If RJ Barrett came in and did that today, the whole world would put him on GOAT trajectory.

-At age 25 he put up 32.5/8r/8a/2.9stls while shooting 53%fg and 85% from the line. In 88-89 when the league was still Bird/Magic/Zeke's. *shrug*

-Bron is great and the greatest all around player we've ever seen and he's continuing his legacy in the 2nd golden age of the NBA. Right now, I have him as 2B next to Kareem's 2A (the Cleveland Ring elevated him IMO). But his legacy is not without flaw. It's funny how Bron wasn't supposed to beat the Spurs with his team but Jordan was supposed to beat the C's/Lakers/Pistons with Dave Corzine, Artis Gilmore, Brad Sellers, Rory Sparrow, Gene Banks, Earl Cureton and Charles Oakley.

Those Bulls rosters were as bad or worse than anything Bron had to carry. Look at this sh*t man: https://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHI/1988.html

And yes, pippen and grant were on this team but they were rookies and wouldn't come into their own for another 2 seasons.

Bron came in the league when it was literally open season. The Lakers dynasty had died, 5 different teams won a ring the first 6 seasons of LeBron's career, 8 different teams (including his) made the finals. His team was a top 4 seed from his 3rd year on and by his 6th yr in the league had netted a finals appearance, 2 number 1 seeds and two league MVP's. Yet HE wasn't expected to win a title...but Jordan was supposed to. He lost to Dwight Howard in the conference finals (played amazing, still lost...Jordan put up 63 on the celtics...still lost), he choked away the 2011 finals to a beatable Dallas team...they let JJ Barea guard him fam. And his finals record is 3-5. Not to mention, he's ruled a garbage eastern conference for 8yrs (after the Celtics and Pistons aged out) whereas when Jordan won, the better teams were all out east (outside of the Lakers).

No consistency.

  

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37. "Jordan's stats and accomplishments are absolutely immune to hyperbole"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

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38. "exactly. the argument cannot even be humored."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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40. "Your overall rankings sound fine to me. n/m"
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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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91. "I dig the compelling analysis."
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This is the kind of stuff that makes the board fun to debate on (and not just entertaining to syce) - to see really cogent arguments laid out. I've always had MJ as #1. I grew up in Illinois and watched his first 3-peat title run as a kid and he remains the most legendary player in the league as far as i'm concerned - and the most accomplished. The unblemished finals record is mayweather-like perfection that will be tough for anyone to topple.

LeBron is the next evolution of the GOAT prototype type player - and he's clearly #2 (or 2b alongside Kareem) already when you objectively look at his mix of team and individual accomplishments. But he's not done and can close the gap. After all - Jordan still won 3 titles after age 32/33 - so there is some time, but it would have to be an epic finish.

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51. "exposing the foolish wretched ballhog jordon since '96."
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52. "Judden had a whole bamma ass site cyse Wilt over Jordon...LOL"
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____________________________________________________


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55. "lmao them jawnts still up, fam... "
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http://airjudden2.tripod.com/ejf/indexf.html

so offbrand.

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61. "LMAO!!!!! he ain't updated that shit in 20 years...LMAO!!!!"
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____________________________________________________


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63. "haha. that's why it's good. "
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65. "yeah man, we were in the presence of greatness..."
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didn't realize it at the time, but judden was a pioneer in this shit. definitely started that whole "extreme nba troll" wave.

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118. "dogg, i still remember finding them groups. so damn good. "
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them joints shaped my trolling. SKF and Judden were so committed to mad-making, i was in awe.

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78. "i'm dying. i can't believe it's still up"
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148. "tripod.com in 2018?"
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How in the world is that website still up? Who is sporting the bills for the server hosting that website?

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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56. "If Kobe jumped ship to better teams TWICE, he's have 10 rings"
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59. "If Lebron has prime Shaq and Pau, he'd have 7 (at least)"
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He wins in 2004 (with Shaq; Kobe single handedly lost
the Lakers that series....if Kobe doesn't play, Lakers
might win)

He wins in 2008

And he wins in 2014



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127. "Kobe wins with LeBron's squad in 2011..."
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146. "Lebron wins with Kobe's 2004 and 2008, teams at least. "
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And Lebron wins a Finals MVP or two, even with
Shaq, unlike SideKick-obe Bryant


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64. "He actually left a 60+ plus win Cleveland team "
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for a Miami team that couldn't get out of the first round and was perennially mediocre.

Then he left a dynasty team in Miami that he had built from the ground-up to join a 20-something win team in Cleveland.

But I know - facts are pesky.

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66. "^Damn. "
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>for a Miami team that couldn't get out of the first round and
>was perennially mediocre.
>
>Then he left a dynasty team in Miami that he had built from
>the ground-up to join a 20-something win team in Cleveland.
>
>But I know - facts are pesky.
>
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128. "Lol so disingenuous by talking about previous rosters"
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67. "and then proclaimed to win championships in the 8+ region"
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yeah a real risky proposition going to miami.

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68. "LOL. He beat the 73 win Warriors. Cry, wimp. "
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>yeah a real risky proposition going to miami.

Bwahahahha

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71. "Huh? See when you feel the need to lie"
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To prop him up it actually hurts him. You don’t need to lie
to prove Brons greatness.

Bron was obviously not the only change Miami made,
and to say he built that team is a straight up lie.

Hell there were debates if it was his team or wades
at least that first year.

I pegged you as starting watching basketball in like
‘08 or something but is it really like 2015?

Even in Cleveland Bron has been able to hit the reset-
hell he did twice just this season.

And him going back to the Cavs was cool as shit. But let’s
not pretend that him leaving Miami had nothing to do
with the beat down the spurs gave him.

5 6 7 rings turned into 2 real quick.

>But I know - facts are pesky.
>

^^^ Irony.

  

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72. "So how did Miami do when Lebron left? "
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>Bron was obviously not the only change Miami made,
>and to say he built that team is a straight up lie.

Oh.

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74. "smh."
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chris bosh had to retire after a half season with a vascular disease and nobody but Chalmers and Deng played more than 62 games

12 different players had double digit starts

partying on injuries, eh?

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76. "Okay, so Miami was ass. How did Cleveland do when Lebron arrived? "
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He won a 'chip.

Just go home.

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85. "no, they werent. their best player had to retire at 31. u partying?"
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94. "Wade retired? When? And how did Lebron do in his new situation? "
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129. "Lol caught in a lie...again"
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135. "Wait--Wade retired? And what Lebron do in Cleveland? Remind me. "
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Cry sissy


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98. "Meanwhile Bron led Matthew Dellavedova & Tristan to the Finals"
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sans Kyrie and Love -- and pushed the Warriors to 6 games.

It's funny who we have excuses for - versus who we make excuses for.

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105. "fixed your lie:"
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he (and kyrie) led them to the finals (which were played) sans love and kyrie

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106. "Bwahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahah"
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>he (and kyrie) led them to the finals (which were played)
>sans love and kyrie

Bwahahahhahahahahahjhhahhahahahahahahahha

So now we counting sidekicks??!?

So JORDAN ain't win them rings, Jordan AND PIPPEN
won them?!?!

Bwahahahhaahhahahahahahhahahahahahahahhahahahahahah

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89. "Well - how'd they do though?"
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Injuries happen to every team. Why wasn't Wade able to lead them out of mediocrity after Bron left? The team was one-year removed from a Finals appearance and fell off the face of the earth after Bron left.

Again - these facts shouldn't upset you.

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104. "his first healthy year without bron he went to the 2nd round"
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and won a division

and led them in scoring

and did it with Bosh missing half the season again

but youre playing stupid to keep asking me what he did in a season he missed 20+ games.

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108. "LOL. So Bron been to the finals every year since. Miami? Nope. "
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LMAOOOOOOOO

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110. "noted. So if Bron "leads his team to the 2nd round" this year"
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I'll be sure to check for you noting that as a significant accomplishment.

Thanks.


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116. "Naw, all those finals in a row DONT COUNT to them, remember? "
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They out here lying

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122. "shit is bizarro."
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Entertaining tho.

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139. "Wade's HOF big man didnt play. how about Bron's?"
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oh thats right, you still pretend kevin love doesnt exist

my bad lmao

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145. "what about when they did play together? .500 ballclub"
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>oh thats right, you still pretend kevin love doesnt exist
>
>my bad lmao

Kevin Love? Who misses as many playoff games as he appears in due to injury? Who is averaging 12 ppg on 33% from the field thus far this year? Yea - huge difference-maker right now for the Cavs.

Wade picked his spots and had a standout half every now and then for that team. LeBron does it every single night.


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88. "I simply stated a set of facts"
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(1) Bron left an elite 60+win team in Cleveland to join a Miami team that was in the midst of mediocrity. He was the MVP player that led that team from mediocrity to dynamism.

(2) He then left that dynasty team to join a lottery-bound, 20-something win team in Cleveland - and led that team to the most historic comeback title in NBA history and 3 straight Finals appearances.

That these facts make you so upset is indicative where your bias is. A fervent bias that only has you surface on the boards when it's about LeBron James.

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130. "You're not describing LeBron's teammates, but previous rosters. Liar"
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132. "I'm describing what those teams accomplished prior to Bron's arrival."
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but "lies!" and "fake news!" is a thing now - so I get it how you might think you're entitled to your own facts.

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137. "Why can't you talk about LeBron's actual teammates tho?"
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Not what the roster looked like before or after him - those weren't the rosters he played with.

  

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138. "happy to talk about the roster he played with."
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how'd they do in Miami after he left?

When he went to Cleveland - they already had Kyrie and the core intact. Then you add Kevin Love (who I guess you think is such a huge difference maker?) and LeBron James - and they win 30 more games and compete in the Finals, winning a title a year later.

It's very easy to ascertain as to what the predominate factor is in all of these various equations.



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73. "smh"
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80. "so disingenuous."
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>for a Miami team that couldn't get out of the first round and
>was perennially mediocre.

you always try to make it seem like he signed on with the Little Sisters of the Poor church league squad in 2010.

he joined a 47-win team with the reigning 1st team all nba shooting guard, one year removed from a scoring title and 4 yrs removed from a finals mvp, that had also just added a 5x all star power forward. both in their athletic primes.

lebron's legacy is secure. you don't have to artificially boost it up by pretending that miami was this collection of boxcar hobos that he dragged into relevancy from the depths of basketball hell. the '10 heat + bosh alone still win mid-50's in 2011.

it was a good team, which lebron made great. not the ragtag underachieving mutts that your narrative and agenda necessitate it be portrayed as.




>Then he left a dynasty team in Miami that he had built from
>the ground-up to join a 20-something win team in Cleveland.
>
>But I know - facts are pesky.
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86. "it literally happened twice."
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93. "so imprecise."
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since when are All-NBA shooting guards and Finals MVPs not judged by their post-season performance? Wade has never gotten out of the 2nd round w/out Shaq or LeBron on his team. He had one of the most commanding singular performances in Finals history in 2006 - and then after that his post-season performance (when he was *the* man) has been abysmal - Carmelo-esque.

>he joined a 47-win team with the reigning 1st team all nba
>shooting guard, one year removed from a scoring title and 4
>yrs removed from a finals mvp

And what did that team do after 2006? Let's see:
2007: *swept* in first round (the year after winning a title)
2008: missed playoffs *entirely*
2009: bounced in 1st round
2010: destroyed in 1st round, barely winning a game

That was a team on the brink of utter collapse and implosion after years of unmet expectations. Cute that you note they won "47 games" though lol. Wade is an all-time great shooting guard - so why are your standards for him so low? You act like this was a perfectly competitive team that was challenging the east every year before Bron came. They weren't. They were bottom-feeders in the low playoff bracket with no hope for a title-run until Kang came to South Beach.

You're right about one thing though: LeBron's legacy is secure. Some of y'all egos ain't, tho.


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111. "you exaggerate how poor that team was bc it supports your narrative."
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>That was a team on the brink of utter collapse and implosion after years of unmet expectations.

christ.

yeah, lebron chose miami in 2010 not because he saw a promising foundation there w/ all stars bosh and wade, but because it was a sinking ship taking on water. he was looking for the highest possible degree of difficulty. final choice was btwn them and the 12 win nets.

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114. "Naw, people are equating "The decision" to Durant's, and its ludicrous. "
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I mean, can we admit that's absurd?

Lebron's Miami move was closer to what happened
in Boston than what Durant did.

Somehow Durant got criticized less for what he did.

Why?

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119. "lol. bro."
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you stay replying to shit niggas ain't even say. lolz!

if you're just going to have both sides of the convo... why even bother involving me?

just create a burner username and reply to yourself.

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120. "well we actually read what people say."
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you've been super complimentary of Durant and oddly critical of LeBron throughout the years - particularly last year. The double standard re: Le Decision is real.

Durant joined an all-time great team that just won a title and gutted him in 7 in the WCF.

Bron joined a team that got bounced 4-1 in the 1st round of the Eastern Conference Playoffs.

Verrrrry different - yet the criticism was burdened disproportionately by LeBron.

It's more than a fair point. You just don't like it.

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123. "sure, tinfoil beanie."
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you and O are the only real lebron fans here. or anywhere. the rest of us despise him.

keep fighting the good fight.

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125. "gosh that's creative."
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I got Bron finishing about 9th in MVP voting next year. how bout you?

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126. "19th"
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121. "You're bloating that team's stature to support your narrative"
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Nah nobody is claiming that Miami was a lottery team - but they were bottom of the food chain among Eastern Conference playoff teams. You keep bringing up Bosh but he likely would've never made the move to Miami had Bron not been involved - so we don't know how good that team would've been sans Bron.

Although we do have a small sample size: the year Bron left and Bosh/Wade were together with a team that just appeared in the Finals. That team struggled all year long (even before Bosh had to sit out). They weren't very good. In fact, they got better after Bosh sat. Scraped their way through the 1st round, and got bounced in the 2nd round. So sure - they were an average playoff team.

But Bron turned them into a dynasty.



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95. "Wait -- so what "superteam" did Lebron join in Cleveland?"
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Dula, admit it:

It's easily the most risky and most successful free agent
move of all time.

He went to work for a boss he HATED (Dan Gilbert) to
a team that was ass cheeks all because of home sentimental
shit.

And he BROUGHT them a chip.

It is NOT hyperbole to say that it is one of the 5 best
championship stories of all time, any sport.

Why y'all fighting it is silly to me.

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112. "i didn't say shit about cleveland."
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115. "Lebron has made two huge risky moves, won chips in both. "
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And the latter is the riskiest, most triumphant
free agent move in sports history. I'm sorry, it's
true.

You be on some bullshit tho, D, dunno why

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117. "the team he joined in miami wasn't as bad as vex pretends it was."
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i mean... if you want to talk about something else, go do that.

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131. "They're liars...selectively cherrypicking data to support their stannery"
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134. "Who cares? It was a huge risk, and he won. Y'all need to cry. "
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He took two gigantic risks, one out of *sheer*
sentimentality (as in, NOT EVEN CLOSE to the best chance
for him to win chips, and won chips in both places)

It's legendary.

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136. "Actually moving back to Cleveland was lowering the bar"
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Scared he wouldn't get to six rings, he tried to redefine one ring with a Cleveland team that with him was the most talent in the conference as his GOAT argument.

  

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141. "EXACTLY!!! And he WON ANYWAY!! BWAHAHAHAHAHHAHAAHH"
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>Scared he wouldn't get to six rings, he tried to redefine one
>ring with a Cleveland team that with him was the most talent
>in the conference as his GOAT argument.

EXACTLY, he DID NOT CHOOSE THE SITUATION that was MOST
CONVENIENT or would GIVE HIM THE BEST CHANCE TO WIN.

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75. "i'm sorry this has caused so much uppage-inducing butthurtness"
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no my intent. jordan just better than bron and bari bout to get paid, regardless.

giannis should be able to carry teams out the first, since he's that good and all. but, if not, he can just pad and get to the HOF anyway like grant hill did.

mad?

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77. "Nigga. We past passive-aggressiveness. We been friends. "
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>no my intent. jordan just better than bron and bari bout to
>get paid, regardless.

Never said anything about Jordan in light of Bron

I DEFENDED Jabari in that post.

>giannis should be able to carry teams out the first, since
>he's that good and all. but, if not, he can just pad and get
>to the HOF anyway like grant hill did.

Giannis lost the coach who made him a star, all because
of racism.


>mad?

The opposite, actually

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79. "i was tryna summon Truth, not you. "
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90. "What's funny is that nobody has actually disagreed w/ your take"
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other than pointing out the obvious: it's salty with bron disdain since he parted ways w/ Ky the Gawd.

And that's ok - it's sports. The people who are mad are the ones who *maybe* have Bron in their top 5 and are patently offended when he's mentioned in the same breath as MJ.

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Basaglia
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113. "since he parted ways with ky? you really are all-in delusional, vex. "
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124. "or since ky parted ways w/ him -- it's whatever. Time to move on."
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87. "Michael Jordan, Kareem, Kobe, Shaq, LeBron. FACTS"
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147. "Geez, did y'all see this ESPN comparison? "
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Hate aside, guys, this really is a dead heat.


http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/21318089/where-michael-jordan-lebron-james-stack-1072nd-career-game


(LOL @ "time shared with #1 overall picks" as a proxy
for talent played with. The stat has Greg Oden and Joe
Smith in there....ESPN hires really dumb people)

And you have to consider that Lebron came into the
league out of high school, and not after his junior
year of college.


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