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Frank Longo
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9. "But here's my question:"
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>for me, the attack on SeaWorld's practices was also a defense
>against the orca species. the trainers' deaths were not due to
>a maniac animal that presented a docile nature but secretly
>lusted for human flesh. instead, they were caused by an
>incredibly smart creature driven insane by its captors -- and
>here are the 12 systemic steps that led to it.

If humans interacted with orcas in the wild-- sane orcas, never tortured, on their turf, etc.-- would we be safer? It's hard to defend the orca as a peaceful species in regards to human interaction when the statistics of in-water human-orca interaction are presumably enormously limited. I'm not tremendously convinced that two deaths out of multiple daily in-water interactions in twenty years with Tilikum is the result of three plus decades of torture more than it is the result of what happens when humans tempt fate by entering the home turf of a much larger animal they simply cannot hope to control.

I'm sure fucking the orca's life up didn't HELP, clearly. I'm just not sure interacting with wild orcas daily in the water for twenty years wouldn't also result in three total deaths. They're fucking big, and ultimately they know they are in control once we are in the water with them.

>my resounding takeaway was that we should
>appreciate whales only under their terms.

That was definitely my takeaway as well, my small gripe with the narrative focus aside. The ending achieves that, for sure, regardless of the path it took, just due to the power of that individual image of the former trainers watching the orcas live.

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Blackfish (Cowperthwaite, 2013) [View all] , will_5198, Mon Aug-12-13 01:01 PM
 
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This arrives near me next week. Can't wait.
Aug 12th 2013
1
I'm not sure the film is arguing this.
Sep 17th 2013
2
it's a specific narrative
Sep 17th 2013
3
I don't think they're ignorant to the flawed nature of captivity...
Sep 17th 2013
4
      when is a humanistic method of captivity suggested though?
Sep 17th 2013
5
           I don't think it's suggested, I merely think it's left open.
Sep 17th 2013
7
                that's one interpretation, sure
Sep 17th 2013
8
                    
                          I think they touched on that too
Sep 17th 2013
10
                               Ah, right. I forgot that moment.
Sep 17th 2013
11
RE: I'm not sure the film is arguing this.
Dec 29th 2013
15
well at one point
Dec 30th 2013
17
wow this was facinating and disturbing...
Sep 17th 2013
6
On CNN tonight
Oct 24th 2013
12
RE: Blackfish (Cowperthwaite, 2013)
Dec 28th 2013
13
Loved it. The intelligence of the orcas blew me away.
Dec 29th 2013
14
the part about them having more evolved emotional brains than us
Dec 31st 2013
18
I sawneded this...dis good
Dec 29th 2013
16
pretty damning indictment of capitalism
Dec 31st 2013
19

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