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Subject: "I don't think it's suggested, I merely think it's left open." Previous topic | Next topic
Frank Longo
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7. "I don't think it's suggested, I merely think it's left open."
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Tue Sep-17-13 03:03 PM by Frank Longo

  

          

I suppose they had to leave it open somewhat, otherwise it becomes a much broader anti-zoo film, but making it so pointedly anti-SeaWorld instead and continually playing the "if they only hadn't done this" card to sculpt that narrative left me wondering what the film could have achieved had they focused their narrative differently or if they'd allowed their scope to sweep a bit more (the movie's a pretty brisk 80-something minutes, I wouldn't have protested if they'd added more).

Even starting at the beginning, where they say they captured the babies and separated them from their mothers, starting the trauma right from the jump. So if they'd also brought the mothers into captivity, the babies wouldn't have been traumatized and thus not psychotic and this not dangerous to humans? etc. Same goes for the breeding point-- they say any animal breeder would tell you never to breed an animal with a pattern for violence against humans. Okay, so if they'd used a different male orca's sperm, then those babies wouldn't cause any accidents and humans would be in control? The scientist interview clips used even leaned more on "SeaWorld fucked up" than "this was fucked on a conceptual level."

Not that that needs to be spelled out, per se, but the focus on the execution rather than the concept left me wondering. Since most of the damning evidence is in execution, and there is no model present for an ideal orca captivity unit, they follow the footage and the evidence and sculpt the film that way, understandably... but it did leave me questioning whether the filmmakers thought the mistakes were the specific problem.

The point that intrigued me the most-- the ego of everyone, from up top to those working in the park daily, to think orcas in any circumstances can be controlled-- seemed outweighed by the point of corporate indifference leading to the mistakes that led to the accidents.

(Not that I should sit here on some "how dare they present the thesis they wish to present to the audience!" I just feel the thesis they seem to present doesn't fully hold water, which mildly undercut my enjoyment of the overall execution.)

(Also, if anyone other than Will or me is reading this thread, it's still totally a film worth seeing with a lot of merit and fascinating/shocking footage.)

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Blackfish (Cowperthwaite, 2013) [View all] , will_5198, Mon Aug-12-13 01:01 PM
 
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This arrives near me next week. Can't wait.
Aug 12th 2013
1
I'm not sure the film is arguing this.
Sep 17th 2013
2
it's a specific narrative
Sep 17th 2013
3
I don't think they're ignorant to the flawed nature of captivity...
Sep 17th 2013
4
      when is a humanistic method of captivity suggested though?
Sep 17th 2013
5
          
                that's one interpretation, sure
Sep 17th 2013
8
                     But here's my question:
Sep 17th 2013
9
                          I think they touched on that too
Sep 17th 2013
10
                               Ah, right. I forgot that moment.
Sep 17th 2013
11
RE: I'm not sure the film is arguing this.
Dec 29th 2013
15
well at one point
Dec 30th 2013
17
wow this was facinating and disturbing...
Sep 17th 2013
6
On CNN tonight
Oct 24th 2013
12
RE: Blackfish (Cowperthwaite, 2013)
Dec 28th 2013
13
Loved it. The intelligence of the orcas blew me away.
Dec 29th 2013
14
the part about them having more evolved emotional brains than us
Dec 31st 2013
18
I sawneded this...dis good
Dec 29th 2013
16
pretty damning indictment of capitalism
Dec 31st 2013
19

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