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will_5198
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10. "I think they touched on that too"
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the one expert, who'd been on dozens of trips to see orcas in the wild, said he was always stunned by their presence. he was also fearful of them. he admired whales but knew to keep his distance.

we *know* what happens to whales in captivity -- we fuck them up. again, I bring up the particular scene of the trainer being dunked at what amounted to timed intervals of his lung capacity -- orcas could kill the trainers at their leisure. if they solely wanted to kill humans, you'd never be able to put a trainer in the water. but instead they suffer through a lifetime of belittling confinement until they are agitated into doing so.

applying those parameters to the wild is kind of baseless. sure, if we go swimming next to a family of orcas every day and withhold them from hunting until they jump and touch a ball, I'm guessing there will be casualties eventually.

>I'm sure fucking the orca's life up didn't HELP, clearly. I'm
>just not sure interacting with wild orcas daily in the water
>for twenty years wouldn't also result in three total deaths.
>They're fucking big, and ultimately they know they are in
>control once we are in the water with them.

well...exactly. a point the film makes itself: love the whales, see the whales, but respect the whales, because they're as smart as you and more powerful than you can imagine. capturing their young and putting them in a swimming pool is the opposite of such respect.

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Blackfish (Cowperthwaite, 2013) [View all] , will_5198, Mon Aug-12-13 01:01 PM
 
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This arrives near me next week. Can't wait.
Aug 12th 2013
1
I'm not sure the film is arguing this.
Sep 17th 2013
2
it's a specific narrative
Sep 17th 2013
3
I don't think they're ignorant to the flawed nature of captivity...
Sep 17th 2013
4
      when is a humanistic method of captivity suggested though?
Sep 17th 2013
5
           I don't think it's suggested, I merely think it's left open.
Sep 17th 2013
7
                that's one interpretation, sure
Sep 17th 2013
8
                     But here's my question:
Sep 17th 2013
9
                         
                               Ah, right. I forgot that moment.
Sep 17th 2013
11
RE: I'm not sure the film is arguing this.
Dec 29th 2013
15
well at one point
Dec 30th 2013
17
wow this was facinating and disturbing...
Sep 17th 2013
6
On CNN tonight
Oct 24th 2013
12
RE: Blackfish (Cowperthwaite, 2013)
Dec 28th 2013
13
Loved it. The intelligence of the orcas blew me away.
Dec 29th 2013
14
the part about them having more evolved emotional brains than us
Dec 31st 2013
18
I sawneded this...dis good
Dec 29th 2013
16
pretty damning indictment of capitalism
Dec 31st 2013
19

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