4. "as far as LB's go I feel like Wagner is slightly overrated, He's very..." In response to Reply # 1
good but is he HOF good?
I heard someone call him a "HOF'er" and I questioned it but they pointed out he has been to 7 straight Pro Bowls and most LB's with that resume' are in and I had trouble arguing with that...
I mean he's a solid all-around player LB I never thought of him as a "dominant" MLB in vein of a Urlacher, Lewis or Singletary...
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Oct-08-21 07:31 AM
6. "Mike Pouncey made the pro bowl last year" In response to Reply # 4
and he sucked
All Pro is the real deal but Pro Bowls tend to go on name recognition once you made a few regardless of the actual stats and game film.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
7. "4 pro bowls is not the same as 7 straight and Wagner has 7 All-Pro's..." In response to Reply # 6
he was dropped to 2nd team one year all the rest first team.
Again I'm not saying he's not a very good player but he doesn't scream HOF to me, he's good at everything but he doesn't seem to dominate at any one thing.
11. "that’s the thing, though…" In response to Reply # 7
he is good at everything. He’s not just a see ball, get ball guy like a lot of these dudes. He can play the run, drop into coverage or go get the qb. He diagnoses plays and puts other dudes in the right places. And he’s been really good for damn near 10 years. Your, right, though…he is not quite on the level of those three guys you named…but, goodness…look at those names. Those are three God-level LBs.
...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Oct-08-21 03:34 PM
17. "I know 4 doesn’t equal 7.. geezus, smh" In response to Reply # 7
just pointing out that pro bowls aren’t the best barometer for greatness.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
27. "He’s definitely HOF worthy. He’s built perfectly for the modern NFL" In response to Reply # 4
I’ve followed his career a bit closely bc he was the guy I wanted the Eagles to draft with their 2nd rd pick in 2012. The Eagles chose a highly talented player, Mychal Kemdricks, literally one pick before Seattle selected Wagner. Kendricks flashed at times, but was maybe 1/4 the player Wagner was.
He’s been a perfect fit for the modern game at ILB because he’s exceptionally athletic, has a nose for the ball, and can cover. The only knock you could say against him is that LBs have been a bit devalued in today’s game. That, and he was a bit overshadowed by the other great ILB in his draft class, Luke Keuchly, and his own teammates - Earl Thomas and Richard Sherman.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Fri Oct-08-21 03:36 PM
18. "every new big contract is the highest ever these days" In response to Reply # 15
just a ridiculous amount of money being thrown around for these elite players
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
5. "If the Vikings lose to the Lions" In response to Reply # 0
Mike Zimmer needs to be fired right when the game is over...right there on the sideline...don't even go into the locker room, just leave. We'll put your sh!t into a box and mail it to you.
"Dressed up like an evil villain dressed up like a soccer dad"
21. "gruden already lying like shit." In response to Reply # 20
doesnt recall email, calls people rubber lips as a euphemism for liar, etc.
dudes still aint learned to come clean from jump or you look even worse when other shoes start dropping (like more racist emails, evidence somebody at espn/raiders briefed you about knowledge of the existence of this email, past player racist interactions, etc).
24. "Washington team president (at the time) Bruce Allen" In response to Reply # 23
>right its one thing to say it and not remember, but to type it >it out? how often did you do this? I wonder who the email was >to...
as if you needed a reminder that ownership all talk the same way. if Gruden felt comfortable enough to send that to another team's president, it doesn't take much imagination to figure out how everyone at the executive NFL level talks.
>as if you needed a reminder that ownership all talk the same >way. if Gruden felt comfortable enough to send that to another >team's president, it doesn't take much imagination to figure >out how everyone at the executive NFL level talks.
28. "Big test for the Eagles this week. " In response to Reply # 0
I’m trying not to get too up or down on my Eagles this year as I had very low expectations heading into the season. This year is all about Hurts and establishing some building blocks for the future. We’re on track to have 3 top 12 picks in the ‘22 draft. That is pretty insane. I wish it wasn’t Howie making those picks, but it’s still pretty hard to miss on those odds.
So far, I’m higher on Hurts than most. In just 8 career starts, he’s shown a lot. At worst, he can be a very serviceable starting QB in the league. I still need to see him work through his progressions quicker and not be so quick to abandon the pocket. All in all though, I’m confident with him.
I really don’t understand Siriani’s complete lack of regard for the running game. You have two really talented backs in Miles Sanders and Kenny Gainwell. Use them!
On defense, this team has gone to shit. I believe a lot of that is due to her personnel as Howie has whiffed in the draft or has just completely devalued that side of the ball. Fletcher Cox is getting elite $$$ to do nothing at the moment. His performance has taken a precipitous decline in alarming fashion. Fortunately, Javon Hargrove is an absolute beast. Take him and Slay away, and we have a really porous defense. I don’t think there’s any fixes that can be done internally. This is the bed Howie made.
Anyway, I think this should be a good challenge. Yeah, Carolina is 3-1, but talent-wise they shouldn’t be that far ahead of the Eagles as they’re coming off a 5-11 season. Go Birds 🦅!!!
49. "Javon is by far my favorite new Eagle for various reasons." In response to Reply # 28
And good win by the Birds today. I have the same feelings about the team, low expectations and all. Especially the neglect of the running game on offense.
Team needs some defensive hitters big time. Javon was a rare win.
BrooklynWHAT Member since Jun 15th 2007 85051 posts
Sun Oct-10-21 01:06 PM
30. "Jags are just walking down the field on us smh" In response to Reply # 0
Between last game vs the Jets, watching the Jets/Falcons today and now Jax rollling down the field I might be done with this season man. We ain’t doing anything with this defense.
31. "my Falcons didn't blow it" In response to Reply # 0
this was the game we usually find a way to lose. both starting WRs out, rookie DBs, non-existent pass rush and our knack for making rookie QBs look like HOFers. should have scored at least 33 points today but turnovers kept this game closer than it should have been
48. "The Bums of LAyden got a bullseye on their back here on out" In response to Reply # 0 Sun Oct-10-21 06:46 PM by Dr Claw
Browns defense is crap, but once again we have a Baker Mayfield game where the offense puts up over 40 and they lose.
Officiating was shit. Browns drives stalled on holding calls, yet the "LA" offense (among other teams) get away with so much holding on Myles Garrett I'm shocked he got one of those sacks despite that.
That "defensive" pass interference" where 81 had the jersey of the Browns DB on a critical 3rd down was the worst.
Herbert getting Boody Calls and thus the coronation... shit's disgusting.
Browns got a few breaks, but it's hard to win against officiating gifting your opponent free drives, and your defense not being able to stop a door.
58. "sorensen has been getting cooked this year" In response to Reply # 51 Mon Oct-11-21 07:54 AM by Ashy Achilles
pass rush is terrible chris jones at defensive end isn't cutting it (though he was hurt for this game) linebackers can't cover just a shit show all around
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Mon Oct-11-21 07:14 AM
56. "only 25 passing attempts by Roethlisberger" In response to Reply # 0
if we e keep his attempts down we have a chance to win some games
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
65. "Bears get a good and much needed win over The Raiders." In response to Reply # 0
BUT
That 1st touchdown pass was lucky as fuck! A better defender would have at least batted that out of the way.
good to see our run game holding up despite missing Montgomery, and I might be tripping, but it almost looks like our O-Line is acting like a fucking O-Line.
67. "i have my hopes up for the cowboys" In response to Reply # 0
this has been the most fun ive had watching them in years. its looking like a well rounded team with great talent in all areas. a lot left to clean up yet they keep finding ways to win convincingly.
10-7 looks like absolute bottom barring major injuries. i think 14-3 is very likely and wouldnt be shocked at better.
whatever the record is i hope it translates to a couple playoff wins.
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Mon Oct-11-21 01:51 PM
68. "lmao at Steeler fans who shitted on me for shitting on Sam Darnold" In response to Reply # 0
they were hype as hell after the first 3 weeks. Terry Bradshaw said “the Charlotte Panthers have the best QB in their franchise history” after week 3.
An obvious shot at Cam Newton and smelled like racism to me.
and now these people are silent af when I told them don’t be fooled by the first 3 weeks and that easy ass schedule to start the season. Dude is still a shook one and fans are already talking about DeShaun Watson in Carolina next year after 5 games.
Not saying Sam can’t turn things around but..
nah, lemme keep it a buck.
That nigga sorry af with his “lemme do more research” ass
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
BrooklynWHAT Member since Jun 15th 2007 85051 posts
Mon Oct-11-21 03:57 PM
69. "funny we were just talking about Watson in the groupchat" In response to Reply # 68 Mon Oct-11-21 03:58 PM by BrooklynWHAT
and my boys would cut somebody to see the Panthers win but they do not want him on the team whether he gets cleared or not. so i can't see Tepper trying to do this, given how he got the team in the first place. they'd have to finish like 5-12 and Darnold be ungodly bad
As a Titans fan I'd take him no questions asked. Breh might be a piece of shit but its a lot of POS in sports and they arent top 5 at their position
legsdiamond Member since May 05th 2011 79493 posts
Mon Oct-11-21 05:58 PM
70. "ionno, Tepper picked Reid when he was kneeling next to Kaep" In response to Reply # 69
so I wouldn’t say Tepper is 100% against it.
**************** TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*
82. "Matt Stafford, MVP candidate" In response to Reply # 0
i hate this fucking franchise
i havent watched a single minute of live Lions game action, and probably wont all year except for Thanksgiving bc it will just be on at my moms house regardless
in 50 years hes still gonna be the best QB the team has ever had, and we will all realize that even MAKING the playoffs 3 times surrounded by a constantly rotating cast of itinerant losers was a monumental achievement.
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