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smutsboy
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"2020 NHL Playoffs Poast: Gritty Goes to Canada"


  

          

https://www.reddit.com/r/Flyers/comments/hzkiu3/gritty_billboard_in_toronto/

Games start Saturday in a country that has a *mildly* functional national government, which is more than the US can say.

I still don't quite understand how this tournament works but I'm not mad at 6 games a day including during week days.

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Subject Author Message Date ID
yes, I'm hyped for this...
Jul 29th 2020
1
The format is basically a giant roulette wheel.
Jul 31st 2020
2
If Carlson stays injured the Caps are toast
Jul 31st 2020
5
go canes
Jul 31st 2020
3
still a good young team
Jul 31st 2020
4
lotta hockey about to be played
Aug 02nd 2020
6
Caps/Bolts was phenomenal
Aug 03rd 2020
7
great game
Aug 03rd 2020
8
this play-in & re-seeding shit is... weird
Aug 05th 2020
9
Islanders are good but I'm glad we're not playing Carolina
Aug 09th 2020
10
4th longest game ever
Aug 11th 2020
11
My Pens just said fuck it, let’s go home.
Aug 12th 2020
12
can't fire the (bottom 6) players and the GM isn't going to fire himself
Aug 12th 2020
14
Maybe the biggest meltdown in Holtby's entire career
Aug 12th 2020
13
Penalties didn’t help either. Colossal choke
Aug 12th 2020
15
      Kempny hasn't been the same since his big injury but holy hell:
Aug 13th 2020
17
there is some sloppiness but this has been very exciting anyway
Aug 12th 2020
16
Caps stats
Aug 13th 2020
18
Of course it was a huge mistake
Aug 14th 2020
19
      I wanted a younger coach who was less conservative with younger players
Aug 14th 2020
20
           the team's resolve was more consistent and they were more disciplined
Aug 14th 2020
21
           100%
Aug 14th 2020
22
           IMHO you have a veteran team going for it all, that's a good approach
Aug 17th 2020
25
                the larger context was back to back 2nd round losses
Aug 18th 2020
32
                     2017 was a big disappointment but a Cup erases that
Sep 04th 2020
39
Todd, you should probably start collecting your things
Aug 15th 2020
23
Ch-ch-ch-chaaaannnges, la vem meu trem (c) Seu Jorge
Aug 17th 2020
24
I don’t think I get any of the channels that hockey is on
Aug 17th 2020
26
they’re all on NBCSN...
Aug 18th 2020
28
if you get NBC sports through your tv provider
Aug 18th 2020
31
ayo the canes went on their face tonight smhhhhhhh
Aug 17th 2020
27
been watching too many Caps games
Aug 18th 2020
30
welcome to the series, RO’R
Aug 18th 2020
29
The Captain said
Aug 18th 2020
33
Elimination Day: Leave the Bubble
Aug 19th 2020
34
Reirden gone
Aug 24th 2020
35
I think Lavy is the guy for them
Aug 27th 2020
36
      I really really really really
Aug 27th 2020
37
           I doubt it will be him
Sep 04th 2020
40
Lotta game 7s coming
Sep 04th 2020
38
Dallas in the finals. Caps hire Laviolette.
Sep 15th 2020
41
Thank you based tampa
Sep 18th 2020
42
and Dallas wins game 1 in a.... could call it GUILE?
Sep 20th 2020
43
Congratulations, Tampa Bay Lightning.
Sep 28th 2020
44
well deserved. By far the best team, imo
Sep 29th 2020
45
The best team won
Sep 29th 2020
46
      refusing to fire Cooper was bolder than a lot of franchises would have b...
Sep 29th 2020
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1. "yes, I'm hyped for this..."
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we got some much needed rest...as everyone did. Nice to have a healthy Vlad Tarasenko back.

...cleaned up my act, made a few violent songs...but, they wack like Glen Rice with New Balance on - Sean Price

  

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2. "The format is basically a giant roulette wheel."
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The extra round is pretty stupid, I mean wow Edmonton got fucked, that was basically a coin flip for a bye and they lost.

I have a lot of thoughts as to who I like on paper but let's face it paper means nothing. The weird layoff and the potential for injuries alone throws the whole fuckin thing into a blender, and then toss in all the possible Covid fuckery and we really can't form much in the way of expectations.

You'd have to think Columbus having all their players is an edge for them. I think they will take out Toronto in the opening round.

Tough breaks for Philly and Boston, they were really rolling at the stoppage time.

In the West who knows, if Edmonton gets good goaltending they are one team in the play in round I could see going deep. Dallas is very slept on and their boring but effective style could play even better in this setting. I wouldn't wanna play them for seven games. St. Louis is super strong, best team on paper in the West by far. Colorado also very interesting now that they are healthy. No idea what to expect from Vegas, they were all over the place under Gallant and only a little more consistent with Deboer.

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5. "If Carlson stays injured the Caps are toast"
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3. "go canes"
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i'm not sure if were good or not. i fell off after 20 or so games after being really into last season's stretch and playoff run.

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4. "still a good young team"
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They lack some scoring depth after their top line, and goaltending is mediocre. But they're a good team. Annoyingly good.

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6. "lotta hockey about to be played"
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Pretty surprised MTL hung with Pittsburgh.

No idea what happened to Edmonton but it was 5-1 at one point, damn.

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7. "Caps/Bolts was phenomenal"
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8. "great game"
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even though the Caps couldn't get out of their own end for the first ~38 minutes.

Tampa is stacked, as usual.

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9. "this play-in & re-seeding shit is... weird"
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some teams are going to get screwed.

But as long as it's Boston, that's fine with me.

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10. "Islanders are good but I'm glad we're not playing Carolina"
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Canes are playing great and their top line is smoking right now.

CBJ v Toronto tonight. Will the Leafs choke yet again?

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11. "4th longest game ever"
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epic.

85 saves by Korpisalo in the loss.

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12. "My Pens just said fuck it, let’s go home. "
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if this was the Steelers they woulda trashed Tomlin’s yard over that performance.

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14. "can't fire the (bottom 6) players and the GM isn't going to fire himself"
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so I guess dumping the staff is the next best thing.

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13. "Maybe the biggest meltdown in Holtby's entire career"
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holy shit that was epic.

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15. "Penalties didn’t help either. Colossal choke"
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17. "Kempny hasn't been the same since his big injury but holy hell:"
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"With Kempny on the ice at five-on-five, the Caps were out-attempted 23 to 6, out-scoring chanced 13 to 1, and out-high danger chanced 6 to 1."

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16. "there is some sloppiness but this has been very exciting anyway"
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the games are being called a little tight but they are letting some stuff go still. lots of penalties and i think that's mostly guys getting their timing, legs, etc.

but the intensity is definitely there.

i didn't see anyone out in the qualifiers that mattered other than maybe mcdavid, draisaitl and josi as individuals. the penguins looked dead AF, haven't seen them play that bad since 2013 against boston and this may have been worse, really. they were a lot younger then, too.

the flyers have really impressed me. they don't get bummed if they get a bad bounce. they respond fast when they need to and they always respond *well*. they really slammed the door in the third tonight, other than the end where montreal was obviously pinching and pressing. they barely broke a sweat in the round robin.

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18. "Caps stats"
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"The Caps are now a very unimpressive 2-2 when leading after two periods in the playoffs under Todd Reirden... after posting a 24-2 mark under Barry Trotz."

And I was 100% on board with promoting Todd & letting Barry walk

what a mistake.

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19. "Of course it was a huge mistake"
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Nothing against Reirden but Trotz is one of the best coaches in the league and finally got the Caps over the top.

During that 17-18 season, they had already made the call to let him walk and they denied multiple teams' request to talk to Reirden. So between saving money, being fair to Reirden and being unwilling to reassess their attitude toward Trotz (and GMBM did not see eye to eye on some fundamental things), they gave Trotz a bullshit offer to say "well, we 'tried' to retain him." I can't imagine how anyone would have thought that would end well. Losing Reirden as an assistant also hurt, but that would have happened either way.

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20. "I wanted a younger coach who was less conservative with younger players"
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Barry was holding roster development back, which is a bad strategy with an aging core like this one.

But it shouldn't have been enough to fire him.

Especially not since Reirden seems so far over his head.

Reirden will get fired, coach in the minors for a while, and probably have a successful second stint somewhere.

Meanwhile it looks to me like the Caps need to move on ASAP, from Reirden AND his staff.

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21. "the team's resolve was more consistent and they were more disciplined"
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under Trotz

I'm going off of the eye test, but I'm willing to bet there's data that even says so. They're so up and down, blowing leads often, and the penalties have hindered their potential greatly. It wasn't this unruly under Trotz.

  

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22. "100%"
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25. "IMHO you have a veteran team going for it all, that's a good approach"
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There is this new way of thinking that says you should gun for a dynasty, a sustainable thing blah blah blah. Not everybody is the Spurs and the Spurs had Duncan playing at a really high level for 20 years.

To me it's the front office who has to have a mind toward those things but the coaching and the lineup should stay oriented toward vets. Yes I get that Trotz was sticking with the Orpiks of the world and now playing Bowey, stuff like that. He didn't give a consistent role to Burakovsky or show much patience with him. But there is alway give-and-take, and Trotz is the rare coach that can really define a team's identity and be a big figure in it. Look at Nashville, he was basically the star of the franchise and the same thing is happening in New York.

I thought it was really dumb that they approached it in such an inflexible way, and honestly I thought it was dumb that they were ushering him out the door prior to the Cup win. He and GMBM differed on some things, and on most of those things, Trotz was right. He didn't want Shattenkirk, and that move was pretty much a bust. That's where I thought they went wrong if anything. They went all in on one year and were prepared to rebuild a little with an impending cap crunch rather than just keeping the window open. It didn't end up hurting them much, and that had a lot to do with the job Trotz did.

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32. "the larger context was back to back 2nd round losses"
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and nearly heading towards a third when the Eller OT magic happened.

He was brought in almost solely to get past the 2nd round and until year 3, had failed.

Between that and things like regularly playing Orpik over Nate Schmidt, it was reasonable to start making plans for his departure.

A much bigger problem is that Reirden seems to be totally incapable of the job.

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39. "2017 was a big disappointment but a Cup erases that"
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I think it was a clash of philosophy and personality more than anything.

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23. "Todd, you should probably start collecting your things"
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thank you for your time & we wish you luck in the future.

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24. "Ch-ch-ch-chaaaannnges, la vem meu trem (c) Seu Jorge"
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Sempre em frente, nunca pra tras.

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26. "I don’t think I get any of the channels that hockey is on"
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Why the hell is the NHL so hard to find on TV?

  

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28. "they’re all on NBCSN..."
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which you have, if you have Sling Blue.

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31. "if you get NBC sports through your tv provider"
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you can stream a lot of it on NBC's web site

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27. "ayo the canes went on their face tonight smhhhhhhh"
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up 3-0 in the 3rd cruising to 2-2 series count how in THE FUCK do you blow that lead

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30. "been watching too many Caps games"
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29. "welcome to the series, RO’R"
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33. "The Captain said"
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NOT TONIGHT

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34. "Elimination Day: Leave the Bubble"
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35. "Reirden gone"
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My preferences in order:

1. Gallant
2. Laviolette
3. Boudreau (2.0!)
4. any veteran coach not named Babcock

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36. "I think Lavy is the guy for them"
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They need to abandon the long view and look at the fact that however many good years they get out of their current core is directly related to how wide their window is. Laviolette is perfect for that. He comes in, makes some tweaks, lights some fires and all goes well until he loses the room and everyone is sick of him.

Babcock and Sutter fit the bill for them but I doubt either coaches next season, Sutter maybe never again. He's got a pretty cush situation now and it'd have to be a really sweet opportunity to get him back into coaching.

I like Boudreau a lot, but he is all the things they don't want. They need someone known for delivering, period.

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37. "I really really really really"
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really hope it's not Babcock

that kind of super asshole treat players like shit coaching style is about 10 years past its expiration date.

The first time Babcock tried to do it to #8, Alex Ovechkin would rightly tell him to fuck himself and Babcock would lose the entire team.

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40. "I doubt it will be him"
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Toronto was the perfect storm of a team that wanted to announce loudly that it was serious about winning and didn't care about paying a coach $8M. I also think he will lay low for another year, but we'll see. A team with new ownership that wants to make a splash or something like that might hire him. Maybe Seattle, but that doesn't seem very on brand for them or for Babcock frankly.

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38. "Lotta game 7s coming"
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Lotta teams trying avoid a 3-1 collapse.

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41. "Dallas in the finals. Caps hire Laviolette."
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They're on a great run. Their defense is untouchable and Dobby the Elf is playing out of his mind.

Maybe Seguin will start scoring at some point.

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Laviolette is by far the best choice for this Caps team. Love it.

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42. "Thank you based tampa"
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Islanders/Stars final might have bored hockey out of existence.

NYI played great, but that team had no business being in the Finals.

Bolts are about as complete as a team can be, Dallas has their work cut out for them.

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43. "and Dallas wins game 1 in a.... could call it GUILE?"
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Tampa needs to make this interesting.

Last time Dallas won....

.... it was some shit.

  

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44. "Congratulations, Tampa Bay Lightning. "
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Rest In Peace, Bad News Brown

  

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45. "well deserved. By far the best team, imo"
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Their roster has zero weaknesses and Hedman is an absolute beast.

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46. "The best team won"
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These two teams were both pretty endearing but in the end Tampa had more weapons, better goaltending, etc. It was weird that they had to do it in an empty arena and without Stamkos but I'm sure they are thrilled anyway. They have a great group there, from Cooper on down and good ownership, too. Class organization and it is quite possible that this isn't their last Cup.

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47. "refusing to fire Cooper was bolder than a lot of franchises would have b..."
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after last year's choke

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