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"Poll question: Paul George or Kawhi Leonard?"


          

no agenda here...just 2 dudes who made a name for themselves this postseason.

Poll result (64 votes)
PG (30 votes)Vote
Kawhi (34 votes)Vote

  

  

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You are an idiot for making this post
Jun 20th 2013
1
Kawhi's motor >>> PG's
Jun 20th 2013
3
      That's true
Jun 20th 2013
5
      Kawhi is just smarter. And he's not a Nyquil.
Jun 21st 2013
18
Paul George on Spurs; this would have been a sweep
Jun 20th 2013
2
PG= T-Mac.....Kawhi=Gerald Wallace
Jun 20th 2013
4
GOAT SF = Gerald Wallace?
May 10th 2016
319
      I'm GLAD that I was WRONG, Mad Much?
May 16th 2016
330
           Mad at what? That I was right and you were wrong?
May 17th 2016
331
LOL
Jun 20th 2013
6
PG is getting screamed by pop for being dumb and sleepy
Jun 21st 2013
17
LOL
Jun 24th 2013
145
IS, as in currently or has the potential to become??
Jun 24th 2013
156
Too soon to tell
Jun 20th 2013
7
always amazed how the moment cyses niggas.
Jun 20th 2013
8
Well Leonard was damn good during the regular season too
Jun 20th 2013
9
this isnt even close.
Jun 20th 2013
10
In what?
Jun 20th 2013
11
Paul george prolly has more potential based off his athleticism
Jun 20th 2013
12
Kawhi Leonard is a good complimentary player..PG is a better one
Jun 20th 2013
13
RE: Paul George or Kawhi Leonard?
Jun 20th 2013
14
George and it's not close. I was a huge fan of Leonard at SDSU
Jun 20th 2013
15
A quintessential Nyquil vs. A quintessential Jerome Kersey
Jun 21st 2013
16
Kersey played zero defense
Jun 21st 2013
19
      He uses Kersey and McKey as default "credibility" guys
Jun 21st 2013
21
      a) You've never seen him play. b) Study your cladistics.
Jun 21st 2013
23
Kawhi was the best player on a team with 3 hall of famers.
Jun 21st 2013
20
Cool, can we play a game where we find every time PG bested him?
Jun 21st 2013
22
.............If only he didn't miss bunnies
Jun 21st 2013
24
This post might single handedly ruin the Nyquil agenda
Jun 21st 2013
25
i see you're having an awfully hard time moving on from one game
Jun 21st 2013
27
they both good
Jun 21st 2013
26
to completely different players, Leonard is basically a garbage man...
Jun 21st 2013
28
Its actually harder to do what Kawhi does.
Jun 21st 2013
29
You trying to speak this into existence?
Jun 21st 2013
30
lol
Jun 21st 2013
31
my dude lost it after melo farted on himself in them 4 qtrs vs. PG
Jun 21st 2013
32
he never felt quite the same once he got a whiff of those hershey stains
Jun 21st 2013
36
I really didn't think anybody would care about PG.
Jun 21st 2013
37
      PG is more than a budding young player. He's got star potential.
Jun 21st 2013
39
           I can dig it. That's why I couldn't vote.
Jun 21st 2013
41
I'm talking about last night, dummy
Jun 21st 2013
33
      Hip me to what I'm mad about now?
Jun 21st 2013
34
           You tell me, bro. I'm support blacktinos. Lets hash this out.
Jun 21st 2013
40
                Lol....I was just concerned about Kawhi becoming the best...
Jun 21st 2013
42
                     In game 7, Kawhi was the best Spur. Not debatable.
Jun 21st 2013
43
LOL @ Stephenson getting tougher assignments than PG
Jun 21st 2013
35
      Umm, Born Ready guarded LEBRON and was guarded BY LEBRON
Jun 21st 2013
38
           LOL @ cysing who LeBron guarded!
Jun 21st 2013
45
                Paul George did not guard Lebron James in the ECF in 2013.
Jun 21st 2013
48
                     And how did that turn out for the Pacers?
Jun 21st 2013
49
                          Paul George did not guard Lebron James in the East. Conf. Finals.
Jun 21st 2013
52
                               that isnt what you said initially, as usual, narrowing/qualifying
Jun 23rd 2013
63
                                    http://youtu.be/e6Qb-f_xpkI
Jun 23rd 2013
64
well draftexpress had best case: Sean Marion for Kawhi
Jun 23rd 2013
118
      He can already get his own shot better than Marion, ever.
Jun 24th 2013
136
Aztecs #15
Jun 21st 2013
44
PG ran his team's offense and guarded the opposition's best wing
Jun 21st 2013
46
Almost the exact opposite is true, especially on defense.
Jun 21st 2013
47
      he nailed it and you're nitpicking like a bitch after not watching
Jun 21st 2013
50
           Fam. Kawhi guarded Lebron James. Paul George did not.
Jun 21st 2013
53
                Oh so you just gonna pretend Danny Green and Diaw didn't guard
Jun 21st 2013
54
                     Paul George did not guard Lebron James. Kawhi Leonard did.
Jun 21st 2013
55
                     Kawhi was stripping him like shit all series
Jun 21st 2013
58
                          Its like their minds go blank when they responding to OE
Jun 21st 2013
59
                     People were here talking about him going 1-8 against Diaw
Jun 23rd 2013
67
                          Paul George did not guard Lebron James in the EC Finals.
Jun 23rd 2013
69
Its w/o question PG - Kawhi has a bright future and someone who
Jun 21st 2013
51
Kawhi winning the poll...just saying
Jun 21st 2013
56
yes...it's typical OKS
Jun 21st 2013
57
i'd give the nod to pg but it was a very reasonable poll imo
Jun 21st 2013
60
The PG vs Melo post obviously hurt some feelings. Shit happens
Jun 21st 2013
61
Leonard is a very, very good player. Knicks fans are very, very mad
Jun 23rd 2013
65
RE: Leonard is a very, very good player. Knicks fans are very, very mad
Jun 23rd 2013
70
      his rebounding was marginally better if at all
Jun 23rd 2013
71
           RE: his rebounding was marginally better if at all
Jun 23rd 2013
72
                garbage time was a poor choice of words, i meant not crunch time
Jun 23rd 2013
74
                     29 ppg is 29 ppg.....and he scored more efficiently than George
Jun 23rd 2013
80
                          Ouch. Take it easy on him, breh.
Jun 23rd 2013
82
                          I mean, I'm really just pointing out what actually happened
Jun 23rd 2013
110
                               Yeah, I mean, Carmelo outplayed George by every conceivable standard.
Jun 26th 2013
246
                          he shit the bed in the 4th...nobody cares about the rest of it.
Jun 23rd 2013
84
                          Paul George had 7 points in Game 7 of the ECF.
Jun 23rd 2013
86
                          i know. and i make no excuses for it. he sucked.
Jun 23rd 2013
88
                               Melo's team far exceeded expectations, though.
Jun 23rd 2013
89
                               come to haunt me? is melo gonna win a title as a "franchise" player?
Jun 23rd 2013
113
                                    Nah, getting in bed with Iversonias will haunt you
Jun 23rd 2013
121
                                         what you're saying doesn't make sense.
Jun 23rd 2013
124
                                              I know you're not an Iverson fan. That's the point.
Jun 23rd 2013
131
                                              and i couldnt give a fuck less about melo vis a vis iverson
Jun 24th 2013
158
                                                   Nah. Carmelo gave AI the pink slip, team improved, ruined AI's legacy.
Jun 24th 2013
161
                               he also had a ton of foul trouble. oh well. youre dead on re: IND/NYK
Jun 23rd 2013
102
                                    I'll take cheese with those pleas.
Jun 23rd 2013
120
                          But....you said he's not a franchise player, didnt you?
Jun 23rd 2013
111
                          OK, cool, so Jerry Stackhouse's 30 PPG were 30 PPG then also
Jun 23rd 2013
101
                               Melo - 43% FG in series, Stack 40% in his 30 ppg season
Jun 23rd 2013
106
                                    The Knicks rely on Melo to score more than Indy does George
Jun 23rd 2013
108
                                         RE: The Knicks rely on Melo to score more than Indy does George
Jun 23rd 2013
109
                                              No, that is not what this is about
Jun 23rd 2013
112
                                                   This didn't happen.
Jun 23rd 2013
135
                                                   I Actually Just Read This Post
Jun 24th 2013
169
                                                   Explain this part:
Jun 25th 2013
179
                                                   usually you see someone missing and/or turning it over and ...
Jun 25th 2013
193
                                                        LOL! Yeah, you actually made that one up out of thin air. WOW.
Jun 25th 2013
200
                                                             lol son said i didn't 'feel' like he was hurting offense turning
Jun 25th 2013
208
                                                                  turnovers per game is overrated as an individual number
Jun 25th 2013
217
                                                                       also, PG's A:T ratio was better than Melo's, i think
Jun 25th 2013
218
                                                                       Both of theirs were bad. PG's was just a hair over 1:1
Jun 25th 2013
221
                                                                       Actually Melo had an outstanding year, not an "irrelevant" one
Jun 25th 2013
219
                                                                       i gave him credit during the year, but results are what matter
Jun 26th 2013
235
                                                                            The "results" = first division championship in a decade
Jun 26th 2013
242
                                                                       Maybe. Turnover % isn't though
Jun 25th 2013
220
                                                                       his assist % was also more than double melo's assist %
Jun 26th 2013
254
                                                                            and his turnover % was more than double Melo's turnover %
Jun 26th 2013
264
                                                                       lol @ tpg being an overrated stat.
Jun 26th 2013
256
                                                                            I love how Iverson fans disparage Melo as a low efficiency volume scorer
Jun 26th 2013
265
                                                                                 You're a strong black man who probably likes good whiskey
Jun 26th 2013
267
                                                   RE: No, that is not what this is about
Jun 25th 2013
205
All the PG votes are from people mad at Orbit_Established
Jun 23rd 2013
66
Kawhi, cause he seems like he's gonna be the more efficient player...
Jun 21st 2013
62
Let's see, first offensive option versus non-offensive option
Jun 23rd 2013
68
      RE: Let's see, first offensive option versus non-offensive option
Jun 23rd 2013
79
           ^Best argument in here. Well done, young man.
Jun 23rd 2013
87
           RE: Let's see, first offensive option versus non-offensive option
Jun 23rd 2013
97
                It's cool if you're for PG. I'll go with Leonard tho.
Jun 23rd 2013
127
PG was *3rd* team ALL- NBA and made *2nd* team ALL - DEFENSE
Jun 23rd 2013
73
i'm sayin! mf'ers in here like he locked down LBJ
Jun 23rd 2013
75
Paul George had 7 points in Game 7 of the ECF.
Jun 23rd 2013
76
      Uh did you forget that in gm 7 PG had Lebron, the best perimeter
Jun 23rd 2013
77
           He knows. He's just very salty about the PG vs Melo shellacking
Jun 23rd 2013
78
           Lebron guarded Lance Stephenson, actually.
Jun 23rd 2013
81
                uh no he didn't, did you even watch gm 7?? lol
Jun 23rd 2013
91
                Kind of
Jun 23rd 2013
95
                     like i said above, that is just saying they knew LS was a non factor
Jun 23rd 2013
99
                          So y'all still copping pleas for PG's 7 point performance, I see.
Jun 24th 2013
139
Paul George not guarding Lebron in the 2013 ECF
Jun 23rd 2013
83
Yeah, Sam Young and Hansborough guard him in this clip
Jun 23rd 2013
85
      Ahh, right. George was just switching on P&R's'
Jun 23rd 2013
90
      and in that particular game, James didn't even go off. it was about
Jun 23rd 2013
93
      Pretty much
Jun 23rd 2013
96
      LOL
Jun 23rd 2013
117
      Wait, did you even watch this clip!???
Jun 23rd 2013
103
           Also where is the clip where Leonard "outduels" LeBron?
Jun 23rd 2013
107
           LOL
Jun 23rd 2013
116
Neither one stands out on a bad team nm.
Jun 23rd 2013
92
OK so can I answer a 'burning question?' YES, PG guarded Bron
Jun 23rd 2013
94
OE posts like this series was 12 years ago
Jun 23rd 2013
98
      But what are his thoughts on Jerome Kersey vs Derek McKey?
Jun 23rd 2013
100
      he's defintely on shaky ground...so far from my intention
Jun 23rd 2013
115
           None of that is true, Ba. Zero. Shame on you.
Jun 23rd 2013
119
                cool. nobody cares about nothing.
Jun 23rd 2013
125
                     Cool. So you're just making shit up. All that shit u said was a lie.
Jun 23rd 2013
129
                          season over, dogg. i don't need to do this anymore. got draft prep.
Jun 23rd 2013
133
                               Apology accepted. Just don't lie and make shit up, and we good.
Jun 23rd 2013
134
                                    RE: Apology accepted. Just don't lie and make shit up, and we good.
Jun 24th 2013
140
think we need to see more from both
Jun 23rd 2013
104
defense, rebounding and efficiency stuff is 100% du jour, my dude
Jun 23rd 2013
105
i need to see kawhi drop 15 fuckin ppg...seriously. that's it.
Jun 23rd 2013
114
      Nah, I'll take selective awesomeness like Game 7 in the NBA finals
Jun 23rd 2013
122
           great...and i'll take a season of all-nba, all-defense
Jun 23rd 2013
123
                Cool. You take stats. I take guys who don't fail their teams.
Jun 23rd 2013
128
                     i didn't mention stats. i mentioned achievements.
Jun 23rd 2013
130
                          Right. You can have those too. I'll take 19 and 16 in clutch situations....
Jun 23rd 2013
132
                               Me too but only if Mike Miller is guarding Leonard lol
Jun 24th 2013
147
                                    Nah. Nyquil ruined his teams chances with a 7 point performance.
Jun 24th 2013
148
                                         PG is a 3rd yr. player who was, along w/his team, surprisingly better
Jun 24th 2013
149
                                              Nah. Nyquil ruined his teams chances with a 7 point performance.
Jun 24th 2013
150
                                                   Melo vanished in 3 consecutive 4th quarters in what were winnable
Jun 24th 2013
151
                                                        I don't see Carmelo Anthony in this poll. I see Kawhi Leonard.
Jun 24th 2013
152
                                                             I see you lying and running
Jun 24th 2013
153
                                                             Wait -- is "Kawhi" Tongan for "Carmelo?"
Jun 24th 2013
154
                                                                  Just dont lie and make shit up and we good
Jun 24th 2013
155
                                                                       Step by step; Heart to heart; Left, right, left; Ernie getttss maaaaad.
Jun 24th 2013
157
                                                                            What can I say, liars make me mad
Jun 24th 2013
160
                                                                                 I'm paypaling you 8 dollars for coconut water and an orange.
Jun 24th 2013
164
                                                                                      Save it to extinguish your pants
Jun 24th 2013
166
                                                                                      How about a coke and a smile?
Jun 24th 2013
172
                                                             Because the pathetic argument you're using to shit on PG is more
Jun 24th 2013
162
                                                                  Cool, how about Paul George's 7 point performance in Game 7?
Jun 24th 2013
163
                                                                       Care to discuss this, liar?
Jun 24th 2013
167
                                                                            About those 7 points in that game 7...remember?
Jun 25th 2013
184
                                                                                 The hell does that have to with anything, liar?
Jun 25th 2013
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                                                                                      I thought we wuz boyz?
Jun 25th 2013
188
                                                                                      Maybe he was tired from guarding Lebron the whole game, liar
Jun 25th 2013
191
                                                                                      C-grade plea cop, add more cheese, and some paprika
Jun 25th 2013
196
                                                                                      he wants to deflect the topic to something you never even discussed
Jun 25th 2013
192
                                                                                           PG ruined his team, scored 7 points in game 7.
Jun 25th 2013
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                                                                                           You lied 7 times in 7 replies
Jun 25th 2013
224
                                                                                           I might be as awful at posting as PG was at basketball in Game 7.
Jun 25th 2013
225
                                                                                           I'll get a beer with you bruh the next time you're in Wisconsin
Jun 25th 2013
232
                                                                                           Definitely. I low key fux with Wisconsin too.
Jun 25th 2013
233
                                                                                           44th in the nation in job creation...lots of people are leaving
Jun 25th 2013
234
wtf OKP? PG is better
Jun 23rd 2013
126
Obviously.
Jun 24th 2013
137
      Kawhi is not capable of being the worst starter on his team in game 7
Jun 24th 2013
138
lol Carmelo fans still mad?
Jun 24th 2013
141
nah i don't think melo got 18 fans on here.
Jun 24th 2013
142
Yup. Carmelo fans have zero real opinion of Paul George
Jun 24th 2013
143
VERY
Jun 24th 2013
144
I voted for George
Jun 24th 2013
146
I'd go PG but I really liked what I saw from Kwahi
Jun 24th 2013
159
I think Kawhi's ceiling is Trevor Ariza
Jun 24th 2013
168
      ceiling? Kawhi's already as good as Ariza's ever been
Jun 24th 2013
170
      oh shit. I meant Rudy Gay for real. lol
Jun 25th 2013
181
      lol
Jun 25th 2013
175
      lol
Jun 25th 2013
176
      Hilarious
Jun 25th 2013
177
their numbers were almost the same in their first 2 seasons
Jun 24th 2013
165
what big leap? same ok per of 16. offense regressed.
Jun 24th 2013
171
      ^this dude just used PER. i'm dying.
Jun 25th 2013
178
      his ts% was worse, efg% worse, o rating was worse. his ws/48 was exactly...
Jun 25th 2013
222
      You're right, George has actually gotten worse since last year.
Jun 25th 2013
180
           deng made his first all nba defensive team and all star game in 11-12
Jun 25th 2013
223
                Deng was an 8 year vet & had been a solid 17-18 ppg #2 option for years
Jun 27th 2013
273
This poll has exceeded my expectations
Jun 24th 2013
173
OkaySports: some facts, some comedy, some Dorito breath.
Jun 25th 2013
174
now, i'm forced to expect all-star and better stats from KL next year
Jun 25th 2013
182
Considering Steph Curry can't make the ASG in the WC, you're right.
Jun 25th 2013
183
so, he's not going to make it and no sane fan should expect that?
Jun 25th 2013
185
Kyrie made it over Steph; Steph is the better player.
Jun 25th 2013
189
the play in different conferences, dude. but you knew that.
Jun 25th 2013
201
      One has an All-star game patch, the other doesn't.
Jun 25th 2013
207
           i do. ky got a ROY patch too.
Jun 25th 2013
209
                Steph better than Kyrie, though. Just letting you know.
Jun 25th 2013
231
                     you bout 6 months late on this agenda. maybe's it's cause you mad.
Jun 26th 2013
241
                          Steph and Kyrie both youngish point guards....better comparison.
Jun 26th 2013
248
                               oh, i know it's a better comparison. that's why this is funny.
Jun 26th 2013
249
                                    Nah, you ain't fucking it up. Steph vs. Kyrie.
Jun 26th 2013
253
                                         i'm pitting every up and coming dude against MELO. GOOD!
Jun 26th 2013
255
                                              Nah, 'Melo fat, old and a 1st ballot hall of famer.
Jun 26th 2013
257
                                                   nah...he'll be playin, you'll be plea-coppin...and i'll be partying
Jun 26th 2013
259
                                                        Knicks a lottery team...Knicks make playoffs, I party (the Rondo rule)
Jun 26th 2013
263
                                                             if that's what you need to do to protect a failed franchise player...
Jun 26th 2013
266
Ba, did you know that they don't select all-stars by conference now?
Jun 25th 2013
194
      Yeah; Kyrie made it. Steph was healthy and at home.
Jun 25th 2013
195
      pretty sure that's his point...Kyrie made it cause he was in the East
Jun 25th 2013
198
      Its like there's so much rage in here, they've abandoned basic rules
Jun 25th 2013
199
      yeah its been a little weird for a while.
Jun 25th 2013
204
      makes sense to me
Jun 25th 2013
203
      he said 'kyrie made it over curry' did he not?
Jun 25th 2013
210
      he can keep tryna dig out the melo hole all he wants...i'm chillin
Jun 25th 2013
202
           Wait - Melo didn't make the All-Star game? I'm confused.
Jun 25th 2013
206
                tell ya what? i'll stay 40 steps ahead of you and go steph >>> melo
Jun 25th 2013
211
                     You post like a nigga took your Madness shirt
Jun 25th 2013
213
                          i ain't reshashing your melo plea copping #stephbetteragenda2014
Jun 25th 2013
214
                               Steph better than Kyrie? Nigga, you getting your agendas crossed .
Jun 25th 2013
226
                                    oh, that been on the table...but, i done fucked that up for you.
Jun 25th 2013
227
                                         Cool...and Steph better than Kyrie. Game on.
Jun 25th 2013
229
                                         weird double down agenda shit here, toooooooooo much
Jun 26th 2013
236
                                              man, neither one of them better than ky, so i don't care.
Jun 26th 2013
238
                                                   Cool -- So Kyrie better than Steph?
Jun 26th 2013
244
                                                        of course he is. four years younger and better.
Jun 26th 2013
250
Steph will this year unless he misses a gang of games
Jun 25th 2013
187
But he didn't last year. Players inferior to him did.
Jun 25th 2013
190
      all-star selections are part perception
Jun 25th 2013
228
           Kyrie made the all-star team in 2013. Steph Curry did not.
Jun 25th 2013
230
                kyrie deserved it. WC coaches chose harden, T5T and russ over steph
Jun 26th 2013
240
                     Ok, cool. So Kyrie made it and Steph didn't, right?
Jun 26th 2013
245
                          yup. and i was happy for kyrie and indifferent about steph.
Jun 26th 2013
251
Just to be clear, Bags said "all-star or better stats"
Jun 25th 2013
212
      lol, where does tyler perry factor into all of this then?
Jun 25th 2013
215
           Just wanted to help OE a bit. Seemed like he could use it n/m
Jun 25th 2013
216
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT8OU5WtfkQ
May 10th 2016
324
hey, what happened to the repetitive 'fact' that PG didnt guard bron?
Jun 26th 2013
237
that nigga is a CB king. that shit is over. he won't revisit.
Jun 26th 2013
239
Ba - about Paul George ruining his team's chances in game 7...
Jun 26th 2013
247
      what's to discuss when i've consistently agreed with you on it?
Jun 26th 2013
252
That's cuz it was proven as a fact. Kawhi did more one on one
Jun 26th 2013
243
      LMAO @ he only did switches! Lying motherfucker!!!!!
Jun 27th 2013
269
           Hmm. Lebron was never his primary assignment. This is a fact.
Jun 27th 2013
270
                it's not even close to a fact you lying piece of shit
Dec 08th 2013
281
what a writhing nest of fuckery
Jun 26th 2013
258
This shit's going 3 bills, baby
Jun 26th 2013
260
Posts involving an OE agenda never have winners, only survivors.
Jun 26th 2013
261
      Dont forget liars
Jun 26th 2013
268
           http://tinyurl.com/3lzk3qx
Jun 27th 2013
271
lmao... this jawnt good... that's all
Jun 26th 2013
262
jesus christ
Jun 27th 2013
272
be strong, fellas.
Nov 06th 2013
274
stay strong, fellas
Dec 03rd 2013
275
glad somebody re-upped this post -- this debate is dead
Dec 03rd 2013
276
Pop fault
Dec 03rd 2013
277
so Kawhi rose from the dead... draw your own conclusions
May 10th 2016
318
i was expecting this to be a really old thread
Dec 03rd 2013
278
RE: Paul George or Kawhi Leonard?
Dec 07th 2013
279
LMAO, send me your address so I can send some farts for ya mouth
Dec 08th 2013
280
Kawhi plays a brand of basketball more conducive to winning than PG.
Apr 01st 2014
282
lol
Apr 01st 2014
283
i'm just glad of two things here
Apr 01st 2014
284
you realize the spurs have played more without him than with him this se...
Apr 01st 2014
285
given the minutes, Kawhi plays brand of bball more conducive to winning
Apr 01st 2014
286
      PG is more TALENTED than Kawhi
Apr 01st 2014
287
           PG is orchestrating a tailspin
Apr 02nd 2014
288
           he'd probably have worse numbers though
Apr 02nd 2014
289
           Kawhi's numbers could be worse as well
Apr 02nd 2014
290
                i think kawhi would have higher %s on a bad team
Apr 02nd 2014
291
                shit, leonard's not even a third option.
Apr 02nd 2014
295
           No excuses. n/m
Apr 02nd 2014
294
                http://giphy.com/gifs/sbnation-george-cEYFeE69pKzWNMfI7JK
Apr 03rd 2014
296
                     jeez, no wonder he shot 37% in March.
Apr 03rd 2014
298
                          dude was feeling himself after that shot: posing while grinning & all
Apr 03rd 2014
299
nice
Apr 02nd 2014
293
PG puts asses in the seats. Nobody buying tix to see KL.
Apr 02nd 2014
292
Nobody paid to see Big Shot Rob, either! But he got Chips!
Apr 03rd 2014
297
.
Jun 11th 2014
300
PG still better
Jun 11th 2014
301
      At watching the NBA Finals on television
Jun 11th 2014
302
      so if the pacers had kahwi instead of pg, they would have beaten miami?
Jun 11th 2014
303
      Kawhi: 4th Option; PG: 1st Option
Jun 11th 2014
304
      Lol, what a simplistic argument
Jun 11th 2014
305
      PG better at impregnating strippers
Jun 16th 2014
309
: - )
Jun 15th 2014
306
:-D
Jun 15th 2014
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(/^o^)/ \( ^o^ )/ \(^o^\) !!!
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lol still need to see kahwi as 1st option or at least 2nd option for
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yea still impressive for a 3rd option aka garbageman to win finals MVP
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      Cedric Conbread Maxwell did it in '81
Jun 16th 2014
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      its early in the week, I'm not sure what your agenda is in this
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           oh i guess pop believes in him then!!!
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                think pop is attached to duncan and'll leave the bench when dunc does
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                     :(
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UPDATE: one of these guys is an NBA champion,
May 10th 2016
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There are really no losers here...Kawhi better but PG is also a beast.
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eggzacklee
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      Haha amazing reversals of opinion nm
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PG 1st half of the season Kahwi 2nd half and playoffs.
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PG played great in the playoffs but Kawhi got him H2H in the reg season
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LOL @ somebody voting PG on the day Kawhi placed 2nd in MVP voting
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NyQuil vs. DayQuil.
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we are still furthering that dumb shit in 2016?
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      fuck yes. NyQuil is funny as fuck, always will be. O_E won that
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FILF
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1. "You are an idiot for making this post"
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Paul George is light years better than Kawhi offensively. Defensively & rebounding wise they are just about even.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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3. "Kawhi's motor >>> PG's"
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5. "That's true"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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18. "Kawhi is just smarter. And he's not a Nyquil. "
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----------------------------



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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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2. "Paul George on Spurs; this would have been a sweep"
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George is a legit #1, max player. Kawhi is nice but he's not on that level.

----
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4. "PG= T-Mac.....Kawhi=Gerald Wallace"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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319. "GOAT SF = Gerald Wallace?"
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LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL

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Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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330. "I'm GLAD that I was WRONG, Mad Much?"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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331. "Mad at what? That I was right and you were wrong? "
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Lolz.

Kudos on finally admitting you were wrong about something though. guess watching GOAT SF & Co. get blown off the court by the Thunder will humble you though.

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6. "LOL"
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>George is a legit #1, max player.

http://hypevercab.bandcamp.com

  

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17. "PG is getting screamed by pop for being dumb and sleepy "
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And because he's Nyquil, it fucks with his head and he starts
slumping and fucking up

Kawhi gives no fucks

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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145. "LOL"
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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156. "IS, as in currently or has the potential to become??"
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>George is a legit #1, max player. Kawhi is nice but he's not
>on that level.


~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

=======================================
Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
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7. "Too soon to tell"
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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8. "always amazed how the moment cyses niggas. "
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kawhi not better than george, man.

____________________________________________________


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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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9. "Well Leonard was damn good during the regular season too"
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this didn't come out of NOwhere

  

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10. "this isnt even close."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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11. "In what?"
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12. "Paul george prolly has more potential based off his athleticism"
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but kawhi is only 21 and has improved a bit and still can
stand to improve some more. both probably are 2nd options
anyways.

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13. "Kawhi Leonard is a good complimentary player..PG is a better one"
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------------------------------------
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be about it or be without it

RIP GOATs

  

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14. "RE: Paul George or Kawhi Leonard?"
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Wiwi upsides: hands/rebounding, motor, level-headed (Kawhi so serious?)
PG upsides: offense

____________________________________________________________________

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Kawhi Leonard
Marshall Faulk
Tony Gwynn (RIP)

#Aztec4Life

  

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15. "George and it's not close. I was a huge fan of Leonard at SDSU"
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I didn't really know anything about George in college, Leonard I saw very often and it doesn't surprise me that he's turned into an excellent player.

But George is still firmly ahead of him, plus more gifted physically.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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16. "A quintessential Nyquil vs. A quintessential Jerome Kersey"
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Kawhi is on the athletic side of the Jerome Kersey, but he's
a Kersey.

But there is NO WAY Paul George doesn't play scared and pussy
like in a game 7 vs Lebron in the NBA Finals. He has a bigger
overall skillset than Kawhi, but he's a Nyquil, gets scared, disappears.

Kawhi was out there looking like a 9-year veteran. That type of shit
aint't in PG, at least not for about 4 years

  

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19. "Kersey played zero defense"
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21. "He uses Kersey and McKey as default "credibility" guys"
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A way of sounding smart to people who were too young or forgot their mostly forgettable careers.

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23. "a) You've never seen him play. b) Study your cladistics. "
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Kersey is a type of player

Search it, don't have time to give that lecture again


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20. "Kawhi was the best player on a team with 3 hall of famers. "
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in game 7 of an NBA Finals

Nyquil was the worst starter on a team with George Hill on it
in a game 7



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22. "Cool, can we play a game where we find every time PG bested him?"
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Because most of the 100+ game schedule for both teams would play out that way.

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24. ".............If only he didn't miss bunnies"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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25. "This post might single handedly ruin the Nyquil agenda"
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Y'all comparing him to a nigga who is also from Cali, about
5X hungrier, been around winners and an actual coach?

Ouch

KL was the best player on a team with 3 hall of famers,
going for 19 and 16; Nyquil went for 7 points in game 7
of the ECF, NOBODY but me noticed

And KL athleticism and genes are in the same galaxy...Nyquil
a better athlete, but Kawhi is a fantastic athlete...he just don't do
dumb shit with it like Nyquil


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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27. "i see you're having an awfully hard time moving on from one game"
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leonard is an excellent player (born ready is not lol), but george is definitely better at this point plus has a higher ceiling.

leonard will move into the "big 3" soon, cool, george is already the top player on his team and they don't suck ... at all. i am sure melo could attest to both of those facts.

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26. "they both good"
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both have ups and downs

George is a freak on offense and he still needs a solid PG to enhance his game. going to be interesting how he comes back next year.

Leonard is a wide open future and alot depends on what is surrounding him. i see upside however again depends on the pieces the spurs add once duncan is gone.

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28. "to completely different players, Leonard is basically a garbage man..."
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on offense, they don't run shit for him, he gets the majority of his points from offensive boards and put-backs, he's not handling the ball at the top of the key and expected to create shots for himself and his teammates like George is. They're both plus defenders, Leonard is probably a little stronger at this point, George is probably a little more athletic. Both are great young players with bright young futures.

________________________________________
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29. "Its actually harder to do what Kawhi does. "
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He collects garbage points because there are no plays
run for him, and yet he STILL manages to be the best
player on a team with three hall of famers and 2
CURRENT all-stars

Nyquil gets to handle the ball, which is why he piles
up the assist and turnover numbers by the bundles
(when they get a real PG, his assist numbers will
tumble, but his PPG might go up)

Kawhi *always* gets the toughest defensive assignment,
no exception

Nyquil doesn't, Born Ready gets the best wing player,
West gets the best post player

Kawhi GUARDS BOTH.


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30. "You trying to speak this into existence?"
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>yet he STILL manages to be the best
>player on a team with three hall of famers and 2
>CURRENT all-stars

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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31. "lol"
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________________________________________
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32. "my dude lost it after melo farted on himself in them 4 qtrs vs. PG"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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36. "he never felt quite the same once he got a whiff of those hershey stains"
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Melo stay loaded on food
PG shit on his duuuuuuuuuude

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37. "I really didn't think anybody would care about PG."
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I thought it was widely understood that he was a budding young player in the league.
I was so wrong.

<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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39. "PG is more than a budding young player. He's got star potential. "
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I'm taking Kawhi, though.

Less sleepy time.

And I don't like Joe Johnson-types.

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41. "I can dig it. That's why I couldn't vote. "
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Too early to tell. And they're different.

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33. "I'm talking about last night, dummy"
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Awfully mad few days there, though

Hit me if you wanna break bread about it, I'm here
for you

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34. "Hip me to what I'm mad about now? "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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40. "You tell me, bro. I'm support blacktinos. Lets hash this out. "
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Where in Brooklyn got good Platanos?


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42. "Lol....I was just concerned about Kawhi becoming the best..."
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player on the Spurs.

I have zero horses in Kawhi vs Paul George.

Paul made a bit of a leap this year. And Kawhi needs to make the same one next year. And hopefully that'll come with more responsibility.

Personally, I hope MKG watches him and becomes a better version of him.

I hope they both PG & Kawhi make the World team.

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43. "In game 7, Kawhi was the best Spur. Not debatable. "
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But apparently game 7 performances are only relevant
when Lebron plays well in them.

When Kawhi plays well in his, its a sample size of 1.

And when Paul George plays like dogshit in his, he's
young and will improve.

I don't know what I did to make niggas so mad around
here, but its pretty pathetic.


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35. "LOL @ Stephenson getting tougher assignments than PG"
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I would say you only watched them in the playoffs, but it didn't even happen there.

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38. "Umm, Born Ready guarded LEBRON and was guarded BY LEBRON"
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>I would say you only watched them in the playoffs, but it
>didn't even happen there.

You are a fucking liar, everyone saw that dumbass

Born Ready drew Lebron AND HAD TO DEAL with Lebron on
the opposite end

The logic was great: he was an X-factor player, the
type of guy whose confidence waxes and wanes, but when
he plays well, the Pacers never lose...putting Bron on
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45. "LOL @ cysing who LeBron guarded!"
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They did the Kobe thizzle and let him roam, you're making it sound like they put him on Born Ready because they cared about his single-digit scoring ass like, at all, ever.

PG typically guards the opposing teams best player, yes or no? Over 82 games plus three rounds of the playoffs? You're really paper thin digging out tiny examples to prove things that just aren't even close to true.

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48. "Paul George did not guard Lebron James in the ECF in 2013. "
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Born Ready drew that assignment.

This is a fact.

If you disagree, you're a liar and/or mad, or both.


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49. "And how did that turn out for the Pacers?"
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You predicted a Pacers victory, didn't happen, you predicted the breakout of Born Ready, didn't happen. Basically you had nothing right about the series so please STFU. George was their best player wire to wire this season, at BOTH ends of the floor. Hibbert was No. 2 on both ends. Everyone else was a cog.

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52. "Paul George did not guard Lebron James in the East. Conf. Finals. "
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63. "that isnt what you said initially, as usual, narrowing/qualifying"
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you said stephenson *always* gets the post wing player on the other team. now you're talking about *one* series. you also said leonard consistently guards the other team's best post player (when he is not guarding their best wing, presumably), which is wrong.

you are such a pussy, you will point to some narrow thing as if it matters more than the overarching reality and you'll never make a real statement when asked. you make a bunch of lil bitch points about wade, but won't say he better than bron. same thing with stephenson/pg, because you know these things are simply not true.

BTW, who was talking up the Spurs and Leonard in the PRESEASON? You are a late ass dick rider who knows fuck all about basketball. I am officially done replying to you, at any point, ever, for any reason. Enjoy your myriad Derek McKey and Jerome Kersey comparisons. Bye.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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64. "http://youtu.be/e6Qb-f_xpkI"
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http://youtu.be/e6Qb-f_xpkI

>you are such a pussy, you will point to some narrow thing as
>if it matters more than the overarching reality and you'll
>never make a statement. you make a bunch of lil bitch points
>about wade, but won't say he better than bron. same thing with
>stephenson/pg, because you know he is not.

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CRRRRRRYYYY you little BITCH!!!!


Ummm who would ever say Wade >>> Bron? I do know that
Wade's 2006 NBA Finals was better than any Lebron or Kobe
playoff, and that's true. But Lebron been better than
Wade as a player since forever

>BTW, who was talking up the Spurs and Leonard in the
>PRESEASON? You are a late ass dick rider who knows fuck all
>about basketball. I am officially done replying to you, at any
>point, ever, for any reason. Bye.


REPLY to these nutz HOECAKES

You need mad hugs

I got you

I'll paypal you money for a lapdance

I'm 100% serious

Inbox me the paypal



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118. "well draftexpress had best case: Sean Marion for Kawhi"
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so it seems like they were spot on. he's right on pace. his
ballhandling has progressed a good amt tho and I've seen him take players off the dribble a decent amount. good sign

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136. "He can already get his own shot better than Marion, ever. "
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44. "Aztecs #15"
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And Gtfoh with these weak ass nicknames got damn!

It's Whi-whi, @TheBig_Island, or Kawhi So Serious?

____________________________________________________________________

San Diego State's holy trinity of sports:
Kawhi Leonard
Marshall Faulk
Tony Gwynn (RIP)

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46. "PG ran his team's offense and guarded the opposition's best wing "
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Kawhi is great but his level of responsibility isn't near that of PG's because he's a role player on the offensive end whereas PG is asked to dictate both sides of the floor.

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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47. "Almost the exact opposite is true, especially on defense. "
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>Kawhi is great but his level of responsibility isn't near
>that of PG's because he's a role player on the offensive end
>whereas PG is asked to dictate both sides of the floor.

Kawhi draws the toughest defensive assignment if the guy
on the other team plays 1-4. Lakers had nothing, but he
guarded Steph and shut him down, guarded Durant (who
didn't get off while guarded by Kawhi), and gave Lebron
problems (Lebron got off because Pop told them to lay off, and
Lebron hit his jumpers)

So actually, you're wrong. Kawhi had the MOST responsibility
of any Spur defensively

Nyquil didn't guard Lebron. Born Ready did. I pointed
this out early and it was almost always true. PG doesn't
always draw the best player on the other team. Kawhi
always does.




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50. "he nailed it and you're nitpicking like a bitch after not watching"
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you are also exaggerating like all hell. i don't care if he's guarding the corpse of willis reed man to man, duncan ALWAYS has the most defensive responsibility of any spur. leonard is their stopper, there's no denying that. george is the pacers' stopper. if they went away from him for a stretch, that doesn't matter, he was still their guy throughout almost 100 games of action this year.

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53. "Fam. Kawhi guarded Lebron James. Paul George did not. "
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Those are facts.

You can get mad all you want. Love is love.

But those are facts.

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54. "Oh so you just gonna pretend Danny Green and Diaw didn't guard"
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Lebron for long stretches in that series...

Diaw was put on Lebron because Leonard, just like PG did, had trouble guarding Lebron in the low post...

And you're lying to yourself if you really believe Kawhi has more responsibilities on for his team than PG for his...PG was the best player on his team, Kawhi is not even the 2nd best player for the spurs, and being the no.#1 guy on your team automatically comes w/more responsibilities than being the no.#3 or #4 best player on a team.


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>Those are facts.
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>You can get mad all you want. Love is love.
>
>But those are facts.
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55. "Paul George did not guard Lebron James. Kawhi Leonard did. "
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They DOUBLED Lebron at times.

But one guy drew the primary assignment. That was Kawhi.

This is also why Lebron started slow in games. Kawhi was on
datazz. When Lebron had real problems, it was because of
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58. "Kawhi was stripping him like shit all series"
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59. "Its like their minds go blank when they responding to OE"
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Like, they automatically ignore every fact of the universe, just because
they don't like ME

Its pathetic

Kawhi Leonard did a fantastic job on Lebron James. "Shut down"
is not possible or relevant. But he defended and did a great job.

Anything else is just a lie.


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67. "People were here talking about him going 1-8 against Diaw"
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This is not exactly news.

I am not agreeing here to knock down Leonard. Obviously he doesn't play every minute of every game and they are going to switch, double and change looks.

I am just saying, you're right, they mixed it up and various guys had success.

Also, it's funny to me that we are talking about great defense against LeBron when he just ejaculated on the entire Spurs roster in a Game 7 triumph. Obviously they didn't keep him off the board when it matter. I do seem to recall a certain chubby cheeked pseudo star that vanished completely in the fourth quarters of his series though, and a certain stud in the making that made it happen.

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69. "Paul George did not guard Lebron James in the EC Finals. "
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Just thought I'd point that out.

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51. "Its w/o question PG - Kawhi has a bright future and someone who"
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could make a few all star gms but he's not a player who has the type of game you build a team around

I'm not exactly sure you can w/PG either but he was the best player on one of the top teams in the east so you can at least make the argument that he's *potentially* a franchise player (not an alpha dog tho)...

Kawhi is a guy who fits in where he can - some nights its his scoring- some nights his D - but he always gives great effort which is why he's such an excellent rebounder

but

don't be mislead abt who he is as a player: he is not a guy you run plays for - his offensive gm isn't quite there just yet. He may never be the BEST player on a championship caliber team. For the most part, he played well in the finals but that's largely because going into the series, he wasn't viewed as a key player you had to stop for the Spurs and he was able to play off Parker/Duncan/and Green to a degree.

PG is the definitely the better player of the two

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56. "Kawhi winning the poll...just saying"
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Seems like the PG voters think I'm an idiot, while the silent majority + OE is on board with Kawhi.

  

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57. "yes...it's typical OKS"
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60. "i'd give the nod to pg but it was a very reasonable poll imo"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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61. "The PG vs Melo post obviously hurt some feelings. Shit happens"
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65. "Leonard is a very, very good player. Knicks fans are very, very mad"
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at PG for shitting on their man. Now they are in denial it even happened. I've never seen anything sadder than their after-the-fact digging for Melo's "shutdown defense" and other "contributions" several days after the series had already ended.

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70. "RE: Leonard is a very, very good player. Knicks fans are very, very mad"
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>at PG for shitting on their man. Now they are in denial it
>even happened. I've never seen anything sadder than their
>after-the-fact digging for Melo's "shutdown defense" and other
>"contributions" several days after the series had already
>ended.

How about his "during the fact" better scoring, rebounding, shooting, and fewer turnovers? Pretty sure I provided updates on those throughout the series.

I'm not a Knicks fan though.

  

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71. "his rebounding was marginally better if at all"
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his scoring was inefficient and largely done in garbage time

turnovers are an issue for george, sure, no one says any differently

i also wasn't really referring to you, more so the pathetic efforts of OE and Cenario to come up with shit after the fact.

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72. "RE: his rebounding was marginally better if at all"
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>his scoring was inefficient and largely done in garbage time
>

Actually the opposite mostly.....the 2 games where he didnt score in the 4th were basically garbage time, as the Knicks were down double digits and the games were all but over.

  

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74. "garbage time was a poor choice of words, i meant not crunch time"
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earlier in games.

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80. "29 ppg is 29 ppg.....and he scored more efficiently than George"
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Out scored, outshot, out rebounded, and took much better care of the ball......FACTS.

Any reference to George "shitting" on Melo is an extreme stretch and/or a flat out lie.

  

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82. "Ouch. Take it easy on him, breh. "
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>Out scored, outshot, out rebounded, and took much better care
>of the ball......FACTS.
>
>Any reference to George "shitting" on Melo is an extreme
>stretch and/or a flat out lie.


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110. "I mean, I'm really just pointing out what actually happened"
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Melo scored more, got more rebounds, shot a better %, and turned it over less.

I don't see what there is to argue about or discuss.

I'm not even trying to play it like Melo destroyed him or shitted on him, the way they are with George. I'm just pointing out what happened.

  

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246. "Yeah, I mean, Carmelo outplayed George by every conceivable standard. "
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But this post been jumped the shark


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84. "he shit the bed in the 4th...nobody cares about the rest of it. "
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that's just franchise player rules. sorry.

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86. "Paul George had 7 points in Game 7 of the ECF."
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: - )

I heard NOTHING from you niggas about that.

ZERO.



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88. "i know. and i make no excuses for it. he sucked."
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however, his team exceeded its seed. melo's did not, as usual.

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89. "Melo's team far exceeded expectations, though. "
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>however, his team exceeded its seed. melo's did not, as usual.

His team was picked to finish fourth in the division, and
nobody picked them to be better than that Pacers.

He made them contenders, which they were (losing to a
very talented Pacer team is hardly anything to be
ashamed of). It was a GREAT season by any Knick fan
standard, which is why the "party" on Knick fans agenda
is falling flat: Knick fans are actually pleased with
how it turned out.

You simply ignore this for your own agenda reasons. And
your agenda reasons (DC-Baltimore animosity) is better
than everyone else's (Iverstania refugees), but you got
in bed with stank breath niggas....it will come back to
haunt you.

Just sayin.

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113. "come to haunt me? is melo gonna win a title as a "franchise" player?"
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if not...L for Y'ALL niggas still defending him.

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121. "Nah, getting in bed with Iversonias will haunt you"
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They are very low class people, not so bright, breaf smell like
doggie doo

Its not a good look to be associated with

I'm leveling with you, because I care about you and your future
as an internet persona

You have to keep weak niggas from out your circle

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124. "what you're saying doesn't make sense. "
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i'm not an iverson fan.

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131. "I know you're not an Iverson fan. That's the point. "
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Most of the Paul George crowd is full of Iverstanians
who are on board because Carmelo fired Iverson from the
Nuggets (Carmelo took them to the WCF right after), which
ruined Iverson's career, legacy and finances.

That's why your Paul George agenda has legs.

Not because it really has legs. Nobody cares about Paul
George. Knicks fans have zero opinion on Paul George.
Carmelo Anthony outplayed him, badly. We like the kid, think
he's talented. We also watched Carmelo Anthony lead a team
of awful bums to a #2 seed, losing to a very talented Pacer
team (the team who took the 2-time World Champions to 7 games).

Literally no Knick fan is disappointed. You just made that up
out of thin air.

The reason Knick fans are posting at all is because of
Iverstanians and their grudge against Carmelo.

Carmelo left the Nuggets: Nuggets got bounced in the first
round. The Knicks didn't, got way, way, way, better than they
were pre-trade. Knicks won. We care more about the NUGGETS
than Paul George or the Pacers. Pacers were picked to be better
than the Knicks prior to the season by everyone. Just look it
up.

You're in bed with these Stanky breaths, and they about to
dribble shitty ass slob on your pillow, fuck up your whole steez.
That's what you'll regret agenda-wise long term.



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158. "and i couldnt give a fuck less about melo vis a vis iverson"
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it was fun to see them play together and iverson's being traded to detroit was the right move for denver. it had nothing to do with anthony.

i didn't start disliking anthony until his last year or two in denver and certainly more recently as a knick. he just disappoints me as far as what could have been, mostly.

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161. "Nah. Carmelo gave AI the pink slip, team improved, ruined AI's legacy. "
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Mad?

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102. "he also had a ton of foul trouble. oh well. youre dead on re: IND/NYK"
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dude is pulling out ONE pub that had the knicks in fourth. many picked them to win the division. if they were dumb enough to pick philly first, that is a default pick for the knicks since bynum played zero games and the sixers were dog shit (mostly) as a result of that. the nyets got a little shine, but very little.

and what does PRESEASON do to trump the whole year and playoff seeding? the first half all i heard about was the great mike woodson, melo, jr smith, chandler and this wonderful supporting cast filled with shooters. real NBA heads knew they were pretenders, sure, but they managed to get a 2 seed and secure home court against indy.

the real showing out/playing above their heads was indy in the ECF. that series did not belong in Game 7, but it got there. NYK-Indy did deserve seven games, but it didn't reach that point.

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120. "I'll take cheese with those pleas. "
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Weird, Carmelo was hurt the WHOLE SERIES, but we can't use
that, eh?

But you using some foul trouble?!?

Bwahahahahhah

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111. "But....you said he's not a franchise player, didnt you?"
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Is George a franchise player?

  

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101. "OK, cool, so Jerry Stackhouse's 30 PPG were 30 PPG then also"
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And, as a scoring champion, he is right there with Melo, Kobe, Gervin, AI and Jordan.

No, 29 PPG is NOT just 29 ppg. Melo had TWO good games in the series. One was a win, cool, credit him for playing big in it. The other was an elimination loss where he vanished in the fourth quarter.

George did what his team needed him to do, across the board really, and definitely on the defensive end.

Melo can only do one thing to help his team, he did sorta well, but not well enough and not at important times.

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106. "Melo - 43% FG in series, Stack 40% in his 30 ppg season"
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George- 39% vs. the Knicks.

43% = "inefficient". 39%. = "Doing what his team needed him to do"

I see you. By the way, of the Knicks two wins in the series, which one was he not good in?

  

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108. "The Knicks rely on Melo to score more than Indy does George"
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True or false?

George is also his team's stopper, Melo is not, true or false?

George passes better and created more offense passing in the series (and all season), true or false?

You're pointing to George's 39%, yes, he shot below his usual level and turned it over more than anyone would like. But he gave them other big contributions and overall, yes, outplayed Melo.

43% is nothing to write home about by the way, just like holding David West like 1.8 points under his season average is not noteworthy.

Melo had a very pedestrian series. He did the same two things he always does, get a few rebounds and score a lot on a lot of shots. He didn't do them efficiently himself and he didn't have any of the other offsetting contributions.

He got outplayed by a younger player with a lower rep and his team lost to a lower seed. There is no rescuing him from that.

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109. "RE: The Knicks rely on Melo to score more than Indy does George"
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>True or false?
True, because he's better at it than George.

>George is also his team's stopper, Melo is not, true or
>false?

George is a better defender.
>George passes better and created more offense passing in the
>series (and all season), true or false?

His ridiculous number of turnovers kind've negates that though. Those who act like he's this fantastic point forward who the offense just flows as a result of might have a point.....if the Pacers offense wasn't often ridiculously frustrating and out of sync.

>You're pointing to George's 39%, yes, he shot below his usual
>level and turned it over more than anyone would like. But he
>gave them other big contributions and overall, yes, outplayed
>Melo.

Still trying to find what this is based on.....more assists and a better defender? That means he outplayed him?
>43% is nothing to write home about by the way, just like
>holding David West like 1.8 points under his season average is
>not noteworthy.

No, 43% is not great and I'm not trying to spin it that way. The number is what it is. all the numbers are, which is why I keep posting them. It's not great, it's not terrible either. It's 2 points under his season average, which hardly equals "shitted on" or "shut down".

>Melo had a very pedestrian series. He did the same two things
>he always does, get a few rebounds and score a lot on a lot of
>shots. He didn't do them efficiently himself and he didn't
>have any of the other offsetting contributions.

I like how it's a "few rebounds" for Melo, but when George gets less rebounds its added to the "numerous things he does for his team".

>He got outplayed by a younger player with a lower rep and his
>team lost to a lower seed. There is no rescuing him from
>that.

Lower rep. That's all this is about. Melo wasn't the superman he needed to be to win the series, and the young, exciting, underdog with upside who is still on his "honeymoon" with bball fans had a few moments, and some want to latch on and make it more than it actually is.

  

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112. "No, that is not what this is about"
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And stop making it sound like I am talking about them with different standards. I never downplayed Melo's rebounding while playing up George's. I said they had about the same number, Melo had more and gave credit to both guys as it being one of the things they did.

In the end, George did four things and Melo did two. Melo did one thing better, even if turnovers wipe out ball movement (they don't but I'll concede for fun), they rebounded about even and George played much better defense. So that still puts the overall picture with George ahead, and also, it's important to note that he didn't stunt his teammates and that they won the series somewhat convincingly.

He not only did what his team needed to do to win, he took it a step further by limiting Melo's ability to do what he needed to do his team to win.

And why are we making the Knicks out to be these huge underdogs? Did they not have homecourt and reasonably high expectations? This was a pretty even series, it didn't play out that way though.

Lastly, trust me that I am more annoyed than you are by the love du jour in this thread for Leonard and George. Don't lump me into that garbage. Before the series started I said George would outplay Melo and the Pacers would win. It happened.

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135. "This didn't happen. "
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I said George
>would outplay Melo and the Pacers would win. It happened.

Except George didn't outplay Carmelo, by any measure.


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169. "I Actually Just Read This Post"
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And it's crazy
Cats are acting like Roy Hibbert never was on the team

  

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179. "Explain this part:"
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>important to note that he didn't stunt his teammates and that

why is that important to note?

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193. "usually you see someone missing and/or turning it over and ..."
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it's hurting the overall flow of play and inhibiting the guys around them. i didn't feel like that with george. they got pretty much the max out of their other guys. it wasn't like hibbert and west weren't getting their opportunities. hibbert was getting more touches and playing better than he did during the year. we saw george step up in ways and sometimes at the expense of traditional efficiency numbers, but it didn't stunt the guys around him.

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200. "LOL! Yeah, you actually made that one up out of thin air. WOW. "
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208. "lol son said i didn't 'feel' like he was hurting offense turning"
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the ball over 4.5 times a game.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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217. "turnovers per game is overrated as an individual number"
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as a team number, they are significant but i dont look at someone turning it over and immediately think his team is screwed. they were a win away from a title, so, as usual, reality agrees with me, disagrees with knicks fans (who touted their team as a contender and now are lying about it openly).

did it inhibit hibbert and west? hibbert got more touches and george still got his. west's numbers were in step with his regular season, and he had some big games as well. they worked well together. PG was a little overextended, but overall he performed very well.

you guys yuck it up all you want, there's no covering that PG was a breakout star this postseason (and really all season) while melo and the knicks had another irrelevant year on the way to nowhere in particular.

go sit in a corner and be sad for a while. i think this whole denial approach is failing you miserably. you've got other stuff going on, good, focus on it. you could be making up NBA fan fiction like OE here otherwise.

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218. "also, PG's A:T ratio was better than Melo's, i think"
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221. "Both of theirs were bad. PG's was just a hair over 1:1"
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219. "Actually Melo had an outstanding year, not an "irrelevant" one"
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3rd in MVP voting. Only the fact that Durant and Lebron play his position, kept him off first team all NBA, but he was one of the 5 best basketball players in the world this year.

"Irrelevant"? And "another irrelevant season" at that? For Melo? Yeah, there's something there a little deeper. I guess I'll chalk it up to Sixers-Knicks rivalry stuff? I didn't realize it ran that deep since they haven't met in the playoffs in almost 30 years, mainly because its rare that both teams make it in the same year. But that's gotta be it.

  

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235. "i gave him credit during the year, but results are what matter"
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i said "melo and the knicks" were irrelevant and that's true. melo himself had arguably his best individual season and a guy who is constantly top 5 in scoring is not "irrelevant" individually.

all that said, any time you have home court and lose the series, you deserve to get flambeed. the way he played late in games, you gotta crank the flame up higher.

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242. "The "results" = first division championship in a decade"
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With J.R. Smith as the #2 scorer.

AND advanced in the playoffs after y'all said he
couldn't do that


>all that said, any time you have home court and lose the
>series,

Weird -- I just searched. I didn't see you posting about
the Denver Nuggets, who unlike the Knicks, were supposed
to be good and lost to a *lower* seed in the *first*
round

Knicks lost to an excellent team...the Pacers were very
good...took the champs to 7 before Paul George ruined
their chances with an abysmal game 7. Wanna discuss that?

Not to mention that both Tyson Chandler and Carmelo were
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220. "Maybe. Turnover % isn't though"
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George's TO% was 18.4% in the playoffs and I think higher in the Knicks series, so he was turning the ball over once almost every 5 plays. you can say they won so it didn't inhibit his team but that is pretty bad.


>screwed. they were a win away from a title, so, as usual,
>reality agrees with me, disagrees with knicks fans

well reality agrees they were 5 wins away from a title. guess you meant they were one win away from the finals, when George shit the bed scoring just 7 points, so not sure why you'd want to bring that up.

>did it inhibit hibbert and west? hibbert got more touches and
>george still got his. west's numbers were in step with his
>regular season, and he had some big games as well. they worked

how were West's numbers in step with his regular season and not Carmelo's, when West scored 2 ppg less shooting 50 points lower and Melo scored the same as reg. season shooting 20 points lower?

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254. "his assist % was also more than double melo's assist %"
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if you're ball handling and getting others involved, you'l have more turnovers.

why are we arguing this shit again?

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264. "and his turnover % was more than double Melo's turnover %"
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counteracting much of the advantage in higher assist #'s

>if you're ball handling and getting others involved, you'l
>have more turnovers.

and if you're a high usage player needing to generate offense when nobody else on your team is scoring with any consistency, you'll usually have alot of turnovers too. except Melo didn't.

>why are we arguing this shit again?

because you guys are still trying to cuban b this shit.

why are you arguing this shit again though?

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256. "lol @ tpg being an overrated stat."
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I love how we just make up stuff as we go for players we like/don't like.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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265. "I love how Iverson fans disparage Melo as a low efficiency volume scorer"
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>I love how we just make up stuff as we go for players we
>like/don't like.

Men without honor they have become.

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205. "RE: No, that is not what this is about"
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>In the end, George did four things and Melo did two. Melo did
>one thing better, even if turnovers wipe out ball movement
>(they don't but I'll concede for fun), they rebounded about
>even and George played much better defense. So that still puts
>the overall picture with George ahead, and also, it's
>important to note that he didn't stunt his teammates and that
>they won the series somewhat convincingly.


What? I already listed the four things Melo did better.....scored more, shot better, rebounded better, turned it over less. How do you get "Melo did one thing better"?

>He not only did what his team needed to do to win, he took it
>a step further by limiting Melo's ability to do what he needed
>to do his team to win.

Not really. Melo did about what he always does. 28.7 ppg on 43% FG shooting. He wasnt amazing, but he was good enough to win. The Knicks 2nd-4th best players played below their usual standard.



  

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66. "All the PG votes are from people mad at Orbit_Established"
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Everyone else is voting Kawhi

And for the record, I think PG is splendid

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62. "Kawhi, cause he seems like he's gonna be the more efficient player..."
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out of the two. Especially if he keeps developing that post game. And playing a 7 game series on the biggest stage in the NBA, and coming up big scoring-wise and and on the boards (against the best player on the planet) is gonna do wonders for his confidence next season. I see him taking a huge leap and San Antonio needs to start shifting the Spurs to being his team. This was their last run with the Big 3 headlining.

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68. "Let's see, first offensive option versus non-offensive option"
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One guy is creating offense, the other guy is taking what comes to him.

If you're looking at their games or efficiency numbers now, that's an ill-informed comparison.

I think Leonard can play a much bigger role for San Antonio, but let's face it it would expand considerably in terms of production before getting to PG's level. It would almost surely suffer a bit in terms of efficiency if he were to step into,for example, Manu's role offensively.

Right now, I have no doubt George could step into Leonard's role and fare more than fine. I am not totally sure about the reverse situation, but that's to be expected given a small but significant gap in experience.

It's a legit comparison/poll, but George is the better player now and has the higher ceiling.

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79. "RE: Let's see, first offensive option versus non-offensive option"
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>One guy is creating offense, the other guy is taking what
>comes to him.
>
>If you're looking at their games or efficiency numbers now,
>that's an ill-informed comparison.
>


PG is a 41% shooter, my man and a turnover machine. Even if he is creating offense, he's not an efficient player at all. And that's kinda bad on his part considering he's playing with a good center in Roy Hibbert and a pretty damn good PF in David West. At the end of the day I don't know who's gonna be better, but if I'm voting in this poll, I'm taking the guy that makes the better choices and shoots the better shots at the higher percentage. Kawhi Leonard is already an elite defender, a good rebounder and an efficient scorer and he's younger and has less experience than PG. On top of that he came up big on the biggest stage in the NBA matched up against the best player in the world a lot of the time.

A guy "taking what comes to him" is a lot better than a guy creating fake offense and turning the ball over or shooting a bad shot.

I think they're both gonna be stars though, just different types.

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87. "^Best argument in here. Well done, young man. "
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>>One guy is creating offense, the other guy is taking what
>>comes to him.
>>
>>If you're looking at their games or efficiency numbers now,
>>that's an ill-informed comparison.
>>
>
>
>PG is a 41% shooter, my man and a turnover machine. Even if he
>is creating offense, he's not an efficient player at all. And
>that's kinda bad on his part considering he's playing with a
>good center in Roy Hibbert and a pretty damn good PF in David
>West. At the end of the day I don't know who's gonna be
>better, but if I'm voting in this poll, I'm taking the guy
>that makes the better choices and shoots the better shots at
>the higher percentage. Kawhi Leonard is already an elite
>defender, a good rebounder and an efficient scorer and he's
>younger and has less experience than PG. On top of that he
>came up big on the biggest stage in the NBA matched up against
>the best player in the world a lot of the time.
>
>A guy "taking what comes to him" is a lot better than a guy
>creating fake offense and turning the ball over or shooting a
>bad shot.
>
>I think they're both gonna be stars though, just different
>types.


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97. "RE: Let's see, first offensive option versus non-offensive option"
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>PG is a 41% shooter, my man and a turnover machine. Even if he
>is creating offense, he's not an efficient player at all. And
>that's kinda bad on his part considering he's playing with a
>good center in Roy Hibbert and a pretty damn good PF in David
>West.

Those guys get their touches. He shares the ball. His ballhandling and decision making are works in progress, so is his shot. Look at where he is right today versus two years ago. It's coming. It doesn't all happen at once. He contributes a lot defensively, too.


At the end of the day I don't know who's gonna be
>better, but if I'm voting in this poll, I'm taking the guy
>that makes the better choices and shoots the better shots at
>the higher percentage.

It's easy to do those things when you have three All-NBA players that are primary options on the floor with you as opposed to a couple of pretty good players who are secondary options. Do you not see a difference there? I think in the long run, this is close enough to question, but right today it's not a contest. You're cysing circumstance here. Long run, like I said, George is improving rapidly, he will keep getting better. Leonard will also get better and see his role expand, but his growing pains will come in years 3 and 4 like George's and he still has a gap to close here.

Kawhi Leonard is already an elite
>defender

So is George.

a good rebounder

again, so is george, he outrebounded leonard this season and yes that would still be true looking at per-36 or per-48 minute numbers.

so where is the advantage here???


and an efficient scorer and he's
>younger and has less experience than PG.

he is ONE YEAR younger. whooptyfuckingdoo. leonard came in more ready. to this point, george has shown more progress. they are on very similar trajectories when you look at it from year one to two for both guys.

but your the efficiency thing? their PER are basically identical. the advanced shooting favors leonard, but look at the volume here. one guy is putting up 18-20, one guy is doing like 10-12. so where is this coming from? guestimations or statistics?

On top of that he
>came up big on the biggest stage in the NBA matched up against
>the best player in the world a lot of the time.

I'm sorry, but this applies to George more than it does Leonard. George was Indy's main player and they nearly pulled off an enormous upset. He guarded LeBron most of the series. He was their first option offensively. He spent more time on Bron one on one than Leonard did and he needed to do it. Leonard had much more help and, in the end, he saw Bron play a game for the ages before planting his lips on that trophy.

>A guy "taking what comes to him" is a lot better than a guy
>creating fake offense and turning the ball over or shooting a
>bad shot.

If George was on SA, do you think he'd play exactly as he does now? Same question for Leonard on Indy? You are much smarter than this.

>I think they're both gonna be stars though, just different
>types.

I agree with the first part, but not really the second part. You won't find two more similar players in terms of style, trajectory, role, etc in the entire NBA probably. I just think George is a little better.

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127. "It's cool if you're for PG. I'll go with Leonard tho."
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73. "PG was *3rd* team ALL- NBA and made *2nd* team ALL - DEFENSE"
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and dudes in here (really just angry knick fans) really trying to say Kawhi, who before this series was really just thought of as a very good role player, is now all of a sudden better than PG. smh

Leonard is a very good defender but even he'd admit whatever success he had guarding Lebron had more to do w/a.) the team defense of the spurs b.) Lebron not being aggressive offensively

Now that Manu is done and likely gone, Leonard should move right into his role as the 3rd best player for the Spurs which he would be at best on any championship caliber team...

PG is on the cusp of being a star in this league and is further along in all aspects of the gm than Leonard is.

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75. "i'm sayin! mf'ers in here like he locked down LBJ"
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lbj was the fuckin MVP of the series, routinely faced TRIPLE teams if he got within 12 feet of the rim, doubles outside and a variety of guys that drew the assignment.

was leonard GOOD against him? hell yes. was he the biggest of several PARTS of their success against lebron? yes. did they ultimately succeed against lebron ...





























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76. "Paul George had 7 points in Game 7 of the ECF. "
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Kawhi went for 19 and 16 in Game 7 of the NBA
Finals. Was the second best player in that game.

The main reason they didn't get blown out.

George got sleepy and ruined his team's chances.

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77. "Uh did you forget that in gm 7 PG had Lebron, the best perimeter"
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defensive player in the league, on him...plus he was in foul trouble in that gm

Guess who mostly guarded Kawhi Leonard in that gm 7: MIKE MILLER bwahahahahahaha

I think I can get 10-12 pts in a gm 7 if Miller was guarding me LOL

You seem to not understand the differences in the roles the two players have for their respective teams: one is a player opposing teams plan for and set out to stop (PG)...the other is a player opposing teams don't gameplan for...AT ALL (KL)...which is why he can have a surprisingly great gm every now and then.





>Kawhi went for 19 and 16 in Game 7 of the NBA
>Finals. Was the second best player in that game.
>
>The main reason they didn't get blown out.
>
>George got sleepy and ruined his team's chances.

I can only imagine what you would be saying right now had PG missed a FT down in the key seconds of a gm 6 that would've given his team a championship.
>
>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
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>
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78. "He knows. He's just very salty about the PG vs Melo shellacking "
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81. "Lebron guarded Lance Stephenson, actually. "
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91. "uh no he didn't, did you even watch gm 7?? lol"
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Because if you did, you'd know it was brought up and discussed how Lebron went to D Wade before gm 7 and said let him guard PG so that Wade wouldn't have to expend as much energy on defense.

KL, on the other hand, was guarded by Mike Miller in gm 7, who's slightly better than a dead man on defense, and was instructed by coach Pop to go at Miller whenever he was isolated against him...

Lebron was on TP for most of gm 6 and 7 and held him scoreless in the 2nd half of gm 7. And this is TP we're talking abt, a viable mvp candidate and he had trouble scoring against Lebron and you're criticizing PG for having a bad game...really.

Had Lebron been assigned to KL for the entire gm, I'm sure he wouldn't have had the game he had.

>But carry on.
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95. "Kind of"
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http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-on-basketball/22290433/heatpacers-lebron-james-defensive-assignment-allows-versatility

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99. "like i said above, that is just saying they knew LS was a non factor"
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offensively

they said, put bron on him and let him cook. we have seen coaches do this with jordan, kobe, bron ... any offensive star that is a good offball defender. they let them float on defense, try to make them a sort of secondary anchor while diminishing the intensity that comes with guarding a good player head up all night.

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139. "So y'all still copping pleas for PG's 7 point performance, I see. "
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83. "Paul George not guarding Lebron in the 2013 ECF"
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ahz-1AqGMks

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85. "Yeah, Sam Young and Hansborough guard him in this clip"
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http://youtu.be/ddz8DiQf9hU


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90. "Ahh, right. George was just switching on P&R's'"
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Sure.

Here, maybe the slow motion will help you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJCGyri-PO0

Or maybe this will help?

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/1652914-paul-george-i-need-to-do-a-better-job-guarding-lebron-james

Shouldnt really need any of this since we all LITERALLY just watched this series 3 weeks ago. Not really getting the point of your blatant lies that can be so easily dismantled.

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93. "and in that particular game, James didn't even go off. it was about"
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the physical battle and george losing that at times.

he guarded him a lot. stephenson got the assignment, too. there is a lot of bullshit in everything O_E says and it's painfully obvious he has not watched any of these series. if i am wrong, that's a much more scathing indictment.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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96. "Pretty much"
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>he guarded him a lot. stephenson got the assignment, too.
>there is a lot of bullshit in everything O_E says and it's
>painfully obvious he has not watched any of these series.

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117. "LOL"
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---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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103. "Wait, did you even watch this clip!???"
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>
>http://youtu.be/ddz8DiQf9hU
>
>
>I'll take my L. Stephenson didn't guard him at
>every point on ever possession

In this, Game 7 clip, that YOU provided, Lance Stephenson LITERALLY guards Lebron ONCE. Lebron never guards him at all, LITERALLY. On Bron, it is 80& Paul George, 10% Gerald Green 9% PnR switch and LITERALLY 1% Lance. You've completely fucking lost it man. All the best in your recovery, no jokes. This is sad.

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107. "Also where is the clip where Leonard "outduels" LeBron?"
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Did I miss where LeBron praised Leonard as a peer and went out of his way to congratulate him? I know I watched these games, but apparently I have some sort of vision problem or just took a lot of hallucinogens during the playoffs.

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116. "LOL"
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---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

L D E A

  

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92. "Neither one stands out on a bad team nm."
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"People that need positivity around them all the time are weak individuals in my book" - @lilduval

  

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94. "OK so can I answer a 'burning question?' YES, PG guarded Bron"
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I figured I would let this slide but since it's being pushed so hard, PG started out the series on Bron and guarded him for most of the first four games. Stephenson was switched onto him in Game 4, because George was in trouble trouble. It was not because he was Born Ready or because he likes to make choke signals toward players vastly superior him that pound his shitter en route to an NBA title.

"With Paul George battling foul trouble, Stephenson asked to guard James, according to Pacers coach Frank Vogel. He asked to guard him, Vogel said, according to the Indianapolis Star. Hes a competitor. We know Paul is getting worn out a little bit guarding LeBron the whole game that hes in there. Lance said, Let me share some of the load. He wants to rise to the challenge.'

This happened again later, in Game 7, when George had foul trouble as well and the Pacers lost horribly. They did win Game 4. Games 5 and 6 sure we saw a little more of Stephenson and James had his best three games of the series in Games 5-6-7, averaging 30-8-6.

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98. "OE posts like this series was 12 years ago"
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Like, we JUST watched this. George v Lebron was the headline. Every time. This Melo L has made him mistermaxx delusional. Odd.

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100. "But what are his thoughts on Jerome Kersey vs Derek McKey?"
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Who is the best semi-relevant combo forward of the early 90s???

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115. "he's defintely on shaky ground...so far from my intention"
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1. i ain't know OE was a knick fan like that.

2. i ain't know he was still cysing melo as a franchise player, especially in comparison to LEBRON.

3. all i wanted to do was start the PG train on OKS. melo was just the foil.

4. this has gotten outta hand. now knick fans are hating like shit on PG and waiting for him to fail.

5. now i gotta make PG a priority in 2014, whether i planned on it or not.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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119. "None of that is true, Ba. Zero. Shame on you. "
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>1. i ain't know OE was a knick fan like that.

I'm not a fan of nothing "like that." I watch basketball
and a fair, just, african-american

>2. i ain't know he was still cysing melo as a franchise
>player, especially in comparison to LEBRON.

LOL. Who said that?

>3. all i wanted to do was start the PG train on OKS. melo was
>just the foil.

That was a mistake, because Carmelo outplayed PG.

The only reason it caught steam is because you co-opted
shit breath Iverstanians. If you look at the actual statistics
and games, Carmelo outperformed PG, on a worse team.
Like, by far.

>4. this has gotten outta hand. now knick fans are hating like
>shit on PG and waiting for him to fail.

Nobody is shitting on PG. I think he's very good.

>5. now i gotta make PG a priority in 2014, whether i planned
>on it or not.

Nobody cares.

  

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125. "cool. nobody cares about nothing. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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129. "Cool. So you're just making shit up. All that shit u said was a lie. "
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Knicks fans don't care about Paul George.

Knicks fans think 2013 was an amazing year where
a franchise player carried a shitty team to goodness,
far above anyone's expectations

Nobody thinks Carmelo is Lebron, nobody said anything
like it

I mean, you have literally made this up out of thin air

Embarrassing




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133. "season over, dogg. i don't need to do this anymore. got draft prep."
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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134. "Apology accepted. Just don't lie and make shit up, and we good. "
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NOBODY talked about Carmelo in light of Lebron.

Knicks fans NEVER cared about Paul George until
ShitBreathCharlie and company piled on, still mad
that Carmelo FIRED AND RUINED their king.

Plus, Knick fans are actually happier than ever; huge
overachieving season. Lost to a far better team in the
playoffs, but gave it a good shot, considering Tyson
Chandler and Carmelo Anthony were both hurt.

Knicks fans wish Paul George well. He's talented. He also
got burned by Carmelo Anthony, who outplayed him all series.




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140. "RE: Apology accepted. Just don't lie and make shit up, and we good. "
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lmao

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104. "think we need to see more from both"
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PG looks like you can run an offense thru him but leonard is way more efficient and can end up with 16-20 points every night anyway
also i think right now leonard is the better defender
i want to see more of leonard before i get too hype and i want to see PG role once granger comes back

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105. "defense, rebounding and efficiency stuff is 100% du jour, my dude"
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they are both excellent defenders, i wouldn't say one is clearly ahead of the other. maybe i'd say george if pressed, but that small differential would be offset by their small differential in experience.

rebounding wise, leonard is always in the picture, great motor, nice wiry strength. PG is still bigger and on the glass a little more, too.

efficiency, eh, in a PER sense they are even. some numbers favor leonard but not by any huge margin. factor in that he is an afterthought in their offense. he is never shooting against the clock, taking heat checks, getting isos or other plays that scream for a shot, etc. george is.

neither guy is like a knockdown shooter or a great ballhandler or fully baked on offense yet. george handles a considerably bigger load right now though and can do a few more things.

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114. "i need to see kawhi drop 15 fuckin ppg...seriously. that's it. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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122. "Nah, I'll take selective awesomeness like Game 7 in the NBA finals"
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Y'all can take that empty stat-padding shit

I'll take a guy who doesn't freeze up and score 7 fucking points
and embarrass himself when it matters most

AND guards Step Curry, Durant, and Lebron in succession,
and does it about as well as it can be done.


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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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123. "great...and i'll take a season of all-nba, all-defense"
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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128. "Cool. You take stats. I take guys who don't fail their teams. "
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Fair trade.

  

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130. "i didn't mention stats. i mentioned achievements. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

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132. "Right. You can have those too. I'll take 19 and 16 in clutch situations...."
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Its an even trade.

You can have achievements and 7 points game 7 when your
team needs you.

I'll take 19 and 16, WHILE guarding Lebron James, in the
a clutch situation, being the SECOND best player on the
floor next to Lebron.


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147. "Me too but only if Mike Miller is guarding Leonard lol"
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>
>Its an even trade.
>
>You can have achievements and 7 points game 7 when your
>team needs you.

Unbelievable - but yet you cop pleas for Melo who didn't do NADA in 3 4th quarters when his TEAM NEEDED HIM MOST but that isn't stopping you from making ridiculous arguments abt "Melo outplaying PG", (based on stats) only then to turn right around and contradict yourself by saying "I don't care abt stats" when it doesn't fit your *agenda* in regards to KL vs PG who was a 3rd team all nba player and 2nd team all defense


>I'll take 19 and 16, WHILE guarding Lebron James, in the
>a clutch situation, being the SECOND best player on the
>floor next to Lebron.
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148. "Nah. Nyquil ruined his teams chances with a 7 point performance. "
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He's fabulously talented player who was the worst
starter on his team, played dreadfully when they needed
him most.

Kawhi, on the other hand, stepped up and refused to let
his team get blown out. His PG was maimed, Manu was horrid
and Tim was looking old and dumb. Kawhi stepped it up like
a leader and a winner, delivered big time.

Like I said: you guys can take empty stat padding and awards.

I'll take a guy who doesn't back down from a challenge, who
takes on Lebron James, and does what it takes to win.


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149. "PG is a 3rd yr. player who was, along w/his team, surprisingly better"
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this season than anyone ever imagined, particularly after their then best player, Danny Granger, went down for the season...

And you in here trying to shit on PG whose team took the defending champs to 7 gms and before that, they embarrassed your knicks. And you keep talking abt George let his team down, what abt Melo??? You can't call yourself a FRANCHISE PLAYER when you disappear in *3 straight 4th quarters* when HIS TEAM NEEDED HIM MOST...at least George can attribute his poor gm to youth and inexperience. What's Melo's excuse being that he is a 10 yr. vet?

The Knicks were the favorites going into that Pacers series and their overall expectations for the season was at least an ECF appearance...

>He's fabulously talented player who was the worst
>starter on his team, played dreadfully when they needed
>him most.
>
>Kawhi, on the other hand, stepped up and refused to let
>his team get blown out. His PG was maimed, Manu was horrid
>and Tim was looking old and dumb. Kawhi stepped it up like
>a leader and a winner, delivered big time.

Who was guarding Leonard and PG in those gm 7s? Oh I'm sure that doesn't matter to you
>
>Like I said: you guys can take empty stat padding and awards.

Like "Melo outplaying George?" Talk abt empty stats...
>
>I'll take a guy who doesn't back down from a challenge, who
>takes on Lebron James, and does what it takes to win.

You talkin bout Leonard or George? That description applies more to PG who was thrusted in the role as his team's BEST player while Leonard has the luxury of playing with and off of 3 HOFers...
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150. "Nah. Nyquil ruined his teams chances with a 7 point performance."
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No excuses.

That was horrid. He was the worst starter on his team.

Kawhi, on the other hand, stepped up when it mattered
most.


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151. "Melo vanished in 3 consecutive 4th quarters in what were winnable"
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gms...

>No excuses.
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>That was horrid. He was the worst starter on his team.
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>Kawhi, on the other hand, stepped up when it mattered
>most.
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152. "I don't see Carmelo Anthony in this poll. I see Kawhi Leonard. "
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And I see Kawhi not scoring 7 points when his team
needed him.

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153. "I see you lying and running"
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Literally.

Liar.

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154. "Wait -- is "Kawhi" Tongan for "Carmelo?""
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I'm honestly confused.

Thought we were talking about Kawhi.

Oh, and Paul George scored 7 points in game 7
of the Eastern Conference Finals. While "Kawhi"
(as I know him) came through in the clutch for
his team.

Care to explain?

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155. "Just dont lie and make shit up and we good"
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Liar.

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157. "Step by step; Heart to heart; Left, right, left; Ernie getttss maaaaad."
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But for why?

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160. "What can I say, liars make me mad"
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Just stop lying and running. Liar.

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164. "I'm paypaling you 8 dollars for coconut water and an orange. "
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Inbox, I'll send it

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166. "Save it to extinguish your pants"
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Liar.

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172. "How about a coke and a smile? "
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can we be boys?

i'm serious


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162. "Because the pathetic argument you're using to shit on PG is more"
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fitting for Melo, whose a 10 yr vet and has a dismal playoff resume and he didn't help it any w/an overall shitty playoffs this season (he was actually not that much better vs the C's)

Oh his shoulder was aching, right?

I know you're MAD, very, in fact, I would be too if I had invested as much as you have on these boards cysing Melo (who's NOT an alpha dog either by the way)

but

don't make it worse by trying to use KL as a proxy against PG who embarrassed your favorite player/team...

>And I see Kawhi not scoring 7 points when his team
>needed him.
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163. "Cool, how about Paul George's 7 point performance in Game 7? "
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Wanna discuss that?

And Kawhi's elite performance when his team
needed him?

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167. "Care to discuss this, liar?"
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http://board.okayplayer.com/okp.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=2198668&mesg_id=2198668&page=#2200197

>Wanna discuss that?

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184. "About those 7 points in that game 7...remember? "
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I want your thoughts

Let's get a beer

What city you in? I'll drive out there, lets
grab a cold one, man, be boys, I think we got potential

I'm serious btw

I like your energy and overall demeanor

Reminds me of a madder OE

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186. "The hell does that have to with anything, liar?"
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Just quit being such a stinky liar and we're good, you liar.

In fact, here's something for your liepod.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1n03a7cLf0M

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188. "I thought we wuz boyz? "
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I just wanna know about that 7 points, have a
grown man interaction about the topic

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191. "Maybe he was tired from guarding Lebron the whole game, liar"
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>
>I just wanna know about that 7 points, have a
>grown man interaction about the topic

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196. "C-grade plea cop, add more cheese, and some paprika"
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192. "he wants to deflect the topic to something you never even discussed"
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and that doesnt really pertain to you in any way.

the pacers pushed miami to 7 with george outplaying lebron on more than one occasion. PG got in foul trouble, limiting his minutes and effectiveness in a Game 7 where he could have scored 27 instead of 7 and still not closed the margin of victory for miami.

he needs to hear that before he can discuss his flagrant dishonesty and never-cease-to-amaze willingness to bend his fleeting thought that lance stephenson looks cute in shorts into real insight on pro hoops.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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197. "PG ruined his team, scored 7 points in game 7. "
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Kawhi came to play, gave the Heat all they could
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224. "You lied 7 times in 7 replies"
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Shit happens, liar.

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225. "I might be as awful at posting as PG was at basketball in Game 7. "
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But I'm not.

I was serious about that beer, bro.


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232. "I'll get a beer with you bruh the next time you're in Wisconsin"
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you don't wanna go to Detroit anyway, lots of Ramen breaths over there....Faygo stained teeth.

  

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233. "Definitely. I low key fux with Wisconsin too. "
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Plus you're a solid dude

Round is on me!

  

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234. "44th in the nation in job creation...lots of people are leaving"
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Good people though, and good beer. You'll have to try a New Glarus, it's not sold outside state borders.

  

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126. "wtf OKP? PG is better"
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not to say Kawhi isn't a good young player, but PG is better right now.

  

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137. "Obviously. "
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Kawhi is an elite role player though, but I don't think he can do anything near what PG can do as a Primary Ball Handler / initiator of the offense.

  

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138. "Kawhi is not capable of being the worst starter on his team in game 7"
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>Kawhi is an elite role player though, but I don't think he
>can do anything near what PG can do as a Primary Ball Handler
>/ initiator of the offense.

I'll give you that.

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141. "lol Carmelo fans still mad?"
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142. "nah i don't think melo got 18 fans on here."
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plus i don't think deebot is a melo fan either.

nice angle though.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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143. "Yup. Carmelo fans have zero real opinion of Paul George"
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>plus i don't think deebot is a melo fan either.
>
>nice angle though.

We think he's a good player, and that's all.

Notice how nobody talks about how Carmelo fans feel
about the Denver Nuggets. Again: THAT'S a situation
Carmelo fans have actual opinions on.

George is just a good, young player. He single handedly
lost his team game 7 in the ECF, and we feel sorry for him.

I'd personally prefer Kawhi on my team, but that's just
because I don't like Nyquils.

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144. "VERY"
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grassrootsphilosopher

  

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146. "I voted for George"
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159. "I'd go PG but I really liked what I saw from Kwahi"
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his ceiling could be higher than I thought if he continues to get better.
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<---- 5....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dlgiritpmfo

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Occupy Big Government..

Fannie, Freddie dole out big bonuses
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1011/67292.html

  

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168. "I think Kawhi's ceiling is Trevor Ariza"
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I just think his overall skillset looks better in the setting he's in.

  

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170. "ceiling? Kawhi's already as good as Ariza's ever been"
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>I just think his overall skillset looks better in the setting
>he's in.

ok, but you're setting the bar a little low there.

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181. "oh shit. I meant Rudy Gay for real. lol"
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I think I still had the Ariza-Gay agenda on my mind.

  

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175. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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176. "lol"
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177. "Hilarious"
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http://hypevercab.bandcamp.com

  

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165. "their numbers were almost the same in their first 2 seasons"
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http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=georgpa01&y1=2012&p2=leonaka01&y2=2013

George is a year older with a year more experience, has a better skillset & took a big leap this year so clearly he's better right now, but it's interesting to see how close their numbers through 2 seasons match up.

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171. "what big leap? same ok per of 16. offense regressed. "
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>http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=georgpa01&y1=2012&p2=leonaka01&y2=2013
>
>George is a year older with a year more experience, has a
>better skillset & took a big leap this year so clearly he's
>better right now, but it's interesting to see how close their
>numbers through 2 seasons match up.
>

very inefficient during this season and most of the playoffs.
only thing he really did better was play more minutes
because danny granger was out.

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178. "^this dude just used PER. i'm dying."
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those stats do give leonard an edge, but PG was supposed to be more of a project, so like 40th said, pretty much a wash.

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222. "his ts% was worse, efg% worse, o rating was worse. his ws/48 was exactly..."
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the same. that is not a GIANT leap.

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180. "You're right, George has actually gotten worse since last year."
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he made the All-NBA and All-Defensive teams this season simply by playing more minutes.

I don't know what I was thinking.

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223. "deng made his first all nba defensive team and all star game in 11-12"
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>he made the All-NBA and All-Defensive teams this season
>simply by playing more minutes.
>
>I don't know what I was thinking.
>

so by your logic he just became a great defender and
just made a big leap from the previous season. right?
except his stats were much worse in a number
of categories. watched and actively rooted for paul george
for most of this season tho, but carry on with distorting
what was just a statement based on what I saw and
what stats supported this season.

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273. "Deng was an 8 year vet & had been a solid 17-18 ppg #2 option for years"
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>so by your logic he just became a great defender and
>just made a big leap from the previous season. right?

so no idea wtf that comparison is supposed to have to do with anything.


>except his stats were much worse in a number
>of categories. watched and actively rooted for paul george
>for most of this season tho, but carry on with distorting
>what was just a statement based on what I saw and
>what stats supported this season.

George went from the 4th option last year to the #1 option this season with the offense running through him, increased his FGA over 50% taking 5 more shots/game & increased his usage rate 21% from 19.3 to 23.5, so not really surprising his shooting %'s would drop some with the increased workload. but carry on with your "given the minutes" argument, it's clearly very well-thought out and convincing.

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173. "This poll has exceeded my expectations"
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carry on, I'm enjoying it.

Some of yall are bringing facts, some are bringing comedy, others are just bringing Dorito breath.

  

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174. "OkaySports: some facts, some comedy, some Dorito breath."
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They should put that as the board description.

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182. "now, i'm forced to expect all-star and better stats from KL next year"
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when i know he won't get 'em and won't be expected to by any sane fan.

he's limited.

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183. "Considering Steph Curry can't make the ASG in the WC, you're right. "
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>when i know he won't get 'em and won't be expected to by any
>sane fan.
>
>he's limited.

But Iguodala made one recently (last year, I believe).

Kawhi is right there if he's in the East.


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185. "so, he's not going to make it and no sane fan should expect that?"
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189. "Kyrie made it over Steph; Steph is the better player. "
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Kinda shows you what ASGs mean in these
debates

Its like you pick every irrelevant measure of goodness
and fly it on a F-15 fighter jet

You're like a stat pad king

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201. "the play in different conferences, dude. but you knew that. "
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____________________________________________________


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207. "One has an All-star game patch, the other doesn't. "
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Remember them patches?


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209. "i do. ky got a ROY patch too. "
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____________________________________________________


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231. "Steph better than Kyrie, though. Just letting you know. "
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n/m

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241. "you bout 6 months late on this agenda. maybe's it's cause you mad. "
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i know steph better than melo tho.

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248. "Steph and Kyrie both youngish point guards....better comparison. "
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Carmelo is old and fat, less relevant

So Kyrie better than Steph?

Noted.

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249. "oh, i know it's a better comparison. that's why this is funny. "
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because i don't care. you thought you had something and i'm fuckin it up for you.

steph is better than MELO.

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253. "Nah, you ain't fucking it up. Steph vs. Kyrie. "
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Carmelo is old and fat, remember?

Steph and Kyrie both young and spry PGs

Oh this gonna be good


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255. "i'm pitting every up and coming dude against MELO. GOOD!"
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since you wanna be mad and not let it go, i'mma just cyse 'em all over that guy.

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257. "Nah, 'Melo fat, old and a 1st ballot hall of famer. "
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The most decorated international player in USA
history, captain of the 2008 team that saved USA
basketball <---goddamn

He won a scoring title in an era with Kobe, Lebron
and Durant, all of whom will end their careers as
to 10 all time players.

He can never play again and I'm good.


  

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259. "nah...he'll be playin, you'll be plea-coppin...and i'll be partying"
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>
>The most decorated international player in USA
>history, captain of the 2008 team that saved USA
>basketball <---goddamn
>
>He won a scoring title in an era with Kobe, Lebron
>and Durant, all of whom will end their careers as
>to 10 all time players.
>
>He can never play again and I'm good.
>
>
>

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263. "Knicks a lottery team...Knicks make playoffs, I party (the Rondo rule)"
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YOUR Rondo Rule


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266. "if that's what you need to do to protect a failed franchise player..."
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cool

and that rondo rule or whatever is just a lie.

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194. "Ba, did you know that they don't select all-stars by conference now?"
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I am reading below that Irving made it over Curry this year. Have they adopted the NHL "captains" system now? Did I miss that? Now now two players from different conferences compete against each other for a spot?

Just wondering if the format changed. I was going to ask resident NBA expert OE, but surely he's busy writing a manifesto about how Russell didn't guard Chamberlain.

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195. "Yeah; Kyrie made it. Steph was healthy and at home. "
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Steph is better than Kyrie.

Another reason why using all-star games is a dumbass
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198. "pretty sure that's his point...Kyrie made it cause he was in the East"
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Steph missed out cause he was in the west

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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199. "Its like there's so much rage in here, they've abandoned basic rules"
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>Steph missed out cause he was in the west


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204. "yeah its been a little weird for a while. "
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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203. "makes sense to me"
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____________________________________________________


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210. "he said 'kyrie made it over curry' did he not?"
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there was some vague discussion about the conferences, but nothing clear. that statement is clear. clearly wrong.

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202. "he can keep tryna dig out the melo hole all he wants...i'm chillin"
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____________________________________________________


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206. "Wait - Melo didn't make the All-Star game? I'm confused. "
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211. "tell ya what? i'll stay 40 steps ahead of you and go steph >>> melo"
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and now i'm on it, so that agenda won't be off the table. steph better than him. as is PG.

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213. "You post like a nigga took your Madness shirt"
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What I DO care about is double standards.

THAT is my beef.

I mean, PG is not better than 'Melo, and everybody
who isn't mad knows that, but honestly...I don't care.

MY BEEF is you saying that a nigga with JR Smith as
the #2 scorer is supposed to be defeat the Indiana
Pacers. The Pacers team is better by about five miles,
in every way. That's my beef. The sliding scales and
phantom standards.

INSTEAD OF GIVING Carmelo CREDIT for overachieving YOU USED
IT to SHIT on him. THAT is unforgivable and is onion breathy
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214. "i ain't reshashing your melo plea copping #stephbetteragenda2014"
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>
>What I DO care about is double standards.
>
>THAT is my beef.
>
>I mean, PG is not better than 'Melo, and everybody
>who isn't mad knows that, but honestly...I don't care.
>
>MY BEEF is you saying that a nigga with JR Smith as
>the #2 scorer is supposed to be defeat the Indiana
>Pacers. The Pacers team is better by about five miles,
>in every way. That's my beef. The sliding scales and
>phantom standards.
>
>INSTEAD OF GIVING Carmelo CREDIT for overachieving YOU USED
>IT to SHIT on him. THAT is unforgivable and is onion breathy
>of you.
>
>
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>
>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
>
>
>
>
>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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226. "Steph better than Kyrie? Nigga, you getting your agendas crossed ."
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Is Steph better than Kyrie, or not?

Simple question.

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227. "oh, that been on the table...but, i done fucked that up for you. "
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steph better than MELO.

you thought you had something and i flipped it. GOOD!

steph better than melo.

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229. "Cool...and Steph better than Kyrie. Game on. "
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You care about Steph being better than Melo.

I care about him being better than Kyrie.

This works.

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236. "weird double down agenda shit here, toooooooooo much"
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lmao @ you two dudes rooting for different combinations of the same exacta here. you need irving-curry-anthony while he needs anthony-curry-irving

the weird root for/against thing will top fantasy sports and gambling COMBINED.

you cats are too much.

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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Basaglia
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238. "man, neither one of them better than ky, so i don't care. "
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i will be partying when steph is better than melo.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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244. "Cool -- So Kyrie better than Steph? "
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Ok.

Steph has an excellent team; its WCF or bust for them.
Its not like Carmelo's Knicks with shitty players everywhere.
Klay and Lee? Sheeeit. He better win.

Let's hope Kyrie makes the playoffs. I'm pulling for him,
honestly. Big fan over here.

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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250. "of course he is. four years younger and better. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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187. "Steph will this year unless he misses a gang of games"
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190. "But he didn't last year. Players inferior to him did. "
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Thereby rendering All-star appearances as irrelevant
to determining who is better between two players.

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228. "all-star selections are part perception"
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Now I think most people perceive Steph as a star and will start to focus on him after this past year's playoffs. So if he has the Warriors playing well this coming season I see him getting the nod and then some cat on a losing squad not making it instead.

  

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230. "Kyrie made the all-star team in 2013. Steph Curry did not. "
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I'll keep repeating it until you guys admit it.

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240. "kyrie deserved it. WC coaches chose harden, T5T and russ over steph"
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LMAO! you mad. they couldn't fit steph in...lmao.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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245. "Ok, cool. So Kyrie made it and Steph didn't, right? "
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Just checking in, making sure.


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Basaglia
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251. "yup. and i was happy for kyrie and indifferent about steph. "
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looking at who kyrie had to beat out in the EC and who steph had to beat out? oh, TOO BAD for steph. that's how it goes.

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Kyrie: I wasn't.


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212. "Just to be clear, Bags said "all-star or better stats""
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Kawhi can have all star or better stats, not make the all star game and you'd still have your agenda

You should've had him map out those stats and then tie him to the stats post he made for Rondo being a top 5 pg.

>>when i know he won't get 'em and won't be expected to by
>any
>>sane fan.
>>
>>he's limited.
>
>But Iguodala made one recently (last year, I believe).
>
>Kawhi is right there if he's in the East.
>
>
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>
>
>O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"
>
>
>
>
>"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."
>
>(C)Keith Murray, "

Famousfarrah.com <--- a webseries I worked on

  

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215. "lol, where does tyler perry factor into all of this then?"
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who, for the record, i have zero opinion of (i have never seen one of his films).

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216. "Just wanted to help OE a bit. Seemed like he could use it n/m"
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Famousfarrah.com <--- a webseries I worked on

  

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324. "https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT8OU5WtfkQ"
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>he's limited.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vT8OU5WtfkQ

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237. "hey, what happened to the repetitive 'fact' that PG didnt guard bron?"
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i have seen that vanish from this thread suddenly. hmmmmmm.

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239. "that nigga is a CB king. that shit is over. he won't revisit. "
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he gonna keep repeating PG's 7 in 7 and ignoring melo's 0 (titles) in 9 (years). and melo's 40 (pounds) during every offseason.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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247. "Ba - about Paul George ruining his team's chances in game 7..."
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....care to discuss?

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252. "what's to discuss when i've consistently agreed with you on it? "
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when someone agrees with you on a point and you keep bringin it up as a defense mechanism...you mad.

PGs game 7 was a pure choke...melo's 4th quarters were the norm. something always gonna happen with him.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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243. "That's cuz it was proven as a fact. Kawhi did more one on one"
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PG only did on switches, like Hansborough and
Sam Young and everyone else

Kawhi drew the individual responsibility, rose to
the occasion, did an excellent job


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269. "LMAO @ he only did switches! Lying motherfucker!!!!!"
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You lie while fucking your mother.

That is my last reply to you ever, lying motherfucker.

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270. "Hmm. Lebron was never his primary assignment. This is a fact. "
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Kawhi was on Lebron like white on rice the
ENTIRE series

PG was NOT

This is a fact

>You lie while fucking your mother.

Yeah, you mad.

>That is my last reply to you ever, lying motherfucker.

You said that about 40 replies to me ago

You're in love with me, admit it

No, I won't

  

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281. "it's not even close to a fact you lying piece of shit"
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fuck you, take your L and stfu. seriously

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258. "what a writhing nest of fuckery"
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260. "This shit's going 3 bills, baby"
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mad?

  

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261. "Posts involving an OE agenda never have winners, only survivors."
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268. "Dont forget liars"
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Dirty rotten stinky liars.

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271. "http://tinyurl.com/3lzk3qx"
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http://tinyurl.com/3lzk3qx

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"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

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262. "lmao... this jawnt good... that's all"
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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

  

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272. "jesus christ"
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274. "be strong, fellas. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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275. "stay strong, fellas"
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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276. "glad somebody re-upped this post -- this debate is dead"
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and for anybody in this post that said Kawhi was better than PG, change your login

grassrootsphilosopher

  

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277. "Pop fault"
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318. "so Kawhi rose from the dead... draw your own conclusions"
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278. "i was expecting this to be a really old thread"
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shit was like 20 nba games ago

  

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279. "RE: Paul George or Kawhi Leonard?"
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http://scores.espn.go.com/nba/boxscore?gameId=400489169

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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280. "LMAO, send me your address so I can send some farts for ya mouth"
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282. " Kawhi plays a brand of basketball more conducive to winning than PG."
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___________________

Mar-A-Lago delenda est

  

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283. "lol"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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284. "i'm just glad of two things here"
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1. i (mostly) lurked this shitfest
2. this shitfest got upped. awesome. i almost forgot about the PG related enragement that happened on this board. almost.
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Y'all stupid...should've tanked for Lebron/Wiggins in 2014 -Rex LongFellow

It's only funny till someone gets mad. Then it's hilarious.

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285. "you realize the spurs have played more without him than with him this se..."
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he might get up to half the team's minutes if pop doesn't rest him this season but it seems doubtful. paul's played about 3/4ths of the available minutes.

  

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286. "given the minutes, Kawhi plays brand of bball more conducive to winning"
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than Paul George.

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287. "PG is more TALENTED than Kawhi"
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I love me some Kawhi but he isn't being asked to do squat as a play-maker on offense, NADA. (He basically plays the Matrix role). It was only 9 months ago when a broken down Manu was being asked to be the playmaker when Top5 picked up the hammy injury in the finals.

PG is every bit as good a defender/rebounder that Kawhi is.....the issue is that he has to check the other teams best defender & also being the primary playmaker on offense. Put PG on the Spurs & you might as well hand them the trophy.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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288. "PG is orchestrating a tailspin "
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>I love me some Kawhi but he isn't being asked to do squat as
>a play-maker on offense, NADA. (He basically plays the Matrix
>role). It was only 9 months ago when a broken down Manu was
>being asked to be the playmaker when Top5 picked up the hammy
>injury in the finals.
>
>PG is every bit as good a defender/rebounder that Kawhi
>is.....the issue is that he has to check the other teams best
>defender & also being the primary playmaker on offense. Put PG
>on the Spurs & you might as well hand them the trophy.


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289. "he'd probably have worse numbers though"
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> Put PG
>on the Spurs & you might as well hand them the trophy.

leonard offensive advanced stats shit on PGs right now
and his rebound and defensive stats are just as good if not better when adjusted for playing time
assuming Pop would still be Pop i don't see a scenario where PG would be the man on a San Ann team so he'd probably be in a similar role as kawhi right now
just not as effective since his shot is more broke and he doesn't do the utility type things as well as kawhi

  

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290. "Kawhi's numbers could be worse as well"
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On one hand, you're claiming that George would have worse numbers on the Spurs but then you citing Leonard's advanced stats, which would probably also be worse if he was the #1 option. His points would be up but I don't think any of his percentages would. You can't look at a guy putting up numbers as a third option and say, "Well, clearly he'll put up these same numbers if he was the #1 option and not playing alongside Tony Parker and Tim Duncan."

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291. "i think kawhi would have higher %s on a bad team"
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maybe not as high as his current ones
but not as low as PG, who takes a ton of bad shots every game

  

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295. "shit, leonard's not even a third option."
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ginobili, mills and belinelli all have higher usage rates.

kawhi's a garbageman. from the ceballos / marion bloodline. if he were all of a sudden asked to play a full-time role as large as the one that paul george does, of course he'd struggle mightily. of course his efficiency would nosedive. lolz.

we've seen literally dozens of examples throughout league history supporting this. not even worth debating.



>On one hand, you're claiming that George would have worse
>numbers on the Spurs but then you citing Leonard's advanced
>stats, which would probably also be worse if he was the #1
>option. His points would be up but I don't think any of his
>percentages would. You can't look at a guy putting up numbers
>as a third option and say, "Well, clearly he'll put up these
>same numbers if he was the #1 option and not playing alongside
>Tony Parker and Tim Duncan."
>
>

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294. "No excuses. n/m"
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296. "http://giphy.com/gifs/sbnation-george-cEYFeE69pKzWNMfI7JK"
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http://giphy.com/gifs/sbnation-george-cEYFeE69pKzWNMfI7JK

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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298. "jeez, no wonder he shot 37% in March."
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horrible shot selection

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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299. "dude was feeling himself after that shot: posing while grinning & all"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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293. "nice"
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http://thumbs.newschoolers.com/index.php?src=http://global3.memecdn.com/i-see-what-you-did-there_o_514831.gif&size=400x1000

  

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292. "PG puts asses in the seats. Nobody buying tix to see KL."
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~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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297. "Nobody paid to see Big Shot Rob, either! But he got Chips!"
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(c) Loud but wrong guy


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300. "."
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301. "PG still better"
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And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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302. "At watching the NBA Finals on television"
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Meanwhile, for the 2nd consecutive year, the other guy is balling the fuck out against the champions on the biggest stage.

  

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303. "so if the pacers had kahwi instead of pg, they would have beaten miami?"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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304. "Kawhi: 4th Option; PG: 1st Option"
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PG on the Spurs would average a cool 20 pts on 60% shooting.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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305. "Lol, what a simplistic argument "
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PG has the same defensive demands as Kawhi but also is the 1st option offensively. That's a huge difference. Put PG on this Spurs team in same role as Kawhi and they are a better team.

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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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309. "PG better at impregnating strippers"
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But not at basketball

----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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306. ": - ) "
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----------------------------



O_E: "Acts like an asshole and posts with imperial disdain"




"I ORBITs the solar system, listenin..."

(C)Keith Murray, "

  

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307. ":-D"
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308. "(/^o^)/ \( ^o^ )/ \(^o^\) !!!"
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310. "lol still need to see kahwi as 1st option or at least 2nd option for"
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this to be an honest comparison.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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311. "yea still impressive for a 3rd option aka garbageman to win finals MVP"
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too bad pop doesn't believe in him since he's retiring , smh

  

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312. "Cedric Conbread Maxwell did it in '81"
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________________________________________
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v2H5K-BUMS0

  

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313. "its early in the week, I'm not sure what your agenda is in this"
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and can't decipher the sarcasm lol

definitely impressive for him to win it, he was amazing this series especially when you factor in that he was bron's primary defender.

All indications are that pop and duncan are coming back tho.

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314. "oh i guess pop believes in him then!!!"
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315. "think pop is attached to duncan and'll leave the bench when dunc does"
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i thought he said that already.

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316. ":( "
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317. "UPDATE: one of these guys is an NBA champion,"
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Finals MVP, still has his team in this year's playoffs, and finished 2nd in MVP voting.

  

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320. "There are really no losers here...Kawhi better but PG is also a beast."
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325. "eggzacklee"
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and the guy who rides hardest for leonard now (filf) took PG then, the guy who tries to shit on PG (sandwiching between that tryna be friends) called kawhi "jerome kersey" lolololololol.

at the time, PG was better, now leonard is better but they are both great players.

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328. "Haha amazing reversals of opinion nm"
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321. "PG 1st half of the season Kahwi 2nd half and playoffs."
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322. "PG played great in the playoffs but Kawhi got him H2H in the reg season"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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323. "LOL @ somebody voting PG on the day Kawhi placed 2nd in MVP voting"
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___________________

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326. "NyQuil vs. DayQuil."
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327. "we are still furthering that dumb shit in 2016?"
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shoulda been cuban b'ed on the spot

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329. "fuck yes. NyQuil is funny as fuck, always will be. O_E won that"
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because Paul George outside of that Knicks series continues to prove that name right.

  

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