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Men's National Team Sets the Tone On Day 1 At Training Camp
Jul 30th 2014
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Additional Quotes From Day 1 Of Men's National Team Training Camp
Jul 30th 2014
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Chandler Parsons: Playing For USA Basketball A 'Surreal' Experience
Jul 30th 2014
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he's 6'9?
Jul 30th 2014
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Glad he's enjoying his experience because I doubt he makes the squad
Jul 30th 2014
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      Actually he's got a good shot, he could see some minutes as a stretch 4
Jul 30th 2014
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           at this point i'd say the deserving roster is like 14-5 dudes
Jul 30th 2014
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                "14-5 dudes"?
Jul 30th 2014
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                     all indications are that curry's playing SG
Jul 30th 2014
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                     No way Coach K doesn't put Kyrie on the team.
Jul 30th 2014
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                          maybe it's because kyrie's been incredible in every USA event since 2010
Jul 30th 2014
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                               C'mon, let's not play dumb now.
Jul 30th 2014
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                                    what happened last summer in team usa pactices and scrimmage?
Jul 30th 2014
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                                         All things equal or games that don't matter?
Jul 30th 2014
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                                         Gotta take that into consideration, too - I'd say both Wall and Lillard
Jul 30th 2014
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                                         oh, but games do matter...they really really do
Jul 30th 2014
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                                              Yeah we know what happens...Coach K picks Kyrie
Jul 30th 2014
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                                                   he shoots and passes for him, too
Jul 30th 2014
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                                                        C'mon fam, we know Kyrie don't pass.
Jul 31st 2014
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                                                             reluctantly to dion and tristan...but to Klay and Davis?
Jul 31st 2014
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                                                                  lolz
Jul 31st 2014
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                                                                  that was good. did not see it coming.
Jul 31st 2014
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                                         Yep, he embarrassed every pg there, so no surprise if he makes it
Jul 30th 2014
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                                         uhhh, Portland twitter passing around a Lillard scrimmage winning 3FG
Jul 31st 2014
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                                              RE: uhhh, Portland twitter passing around a Lillard scrimmage winning 3F...
Jul 31st 2014
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                                                   Damian's longball>whatever some hack beatwriter rushed thru for deadline
Jul 31st 2014
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                                                        just saying what's been leaking out, man.
Jul 31st 2014
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Day 2: Roundup Competition and Intensity Mount
Jul 30th 2014
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Marcus Smart "one of the most impressive guards on the court"...
Jul 30th 2014
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      :17
Jul 30th 2014
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Quotes From Day 2 of Men's National Team Training Camp
Jul 30th 2014
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Anthony Davis Returns to Men's National Team As One of the Leaders
Jul 30th 2014
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Derrick Rose is the "most impressive guy" at World Cup tryouts(swipe)
Jul 30th 2014
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is your stance on him playing changing or nah?
Jul 31st 2014
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      No, If I'm Jerry Reinsdorf I still don't want him out there.
Jul 31st 2014
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Day 3 Roundup: Pleased With Progress
Jul 31st 2014
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Quotes From Day 3 Of Men's National Team Training Camp
Jul 31st 2014
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USA Roster Overflowing With Gifted Guards
Jul 31st 2014
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imagine Ky did 2 yrs college, does he know its not Olympics this summer?
Jul 31st 2014
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      they get gold medals, as well as a trophy, which kyrie would know
Jul 31st 2014
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      ... this isn't a serious reply, right?
Jul 31st 2014
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      I actually looked it up before posting, they get the Naismith Trophy
Jul 31st 2014
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      medals + if he can own this team he can own this generation of pgs
Jul 31st 2014
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so the locks so far...
Jul 31st 2014
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RE: so the locks so far...
Jul 31st 2014
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that's about right...
Jul 31st 2014
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Lol, people do this every year crying about "WE NEED SHOOTERS!"...
Jul 31st 2014
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i can't see both faried and millsap making it
Jul 31st 2014
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add Korver and Drummond, drop Faried and Millsap
Jul 31st 2014
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Windhorst says Plumlee over Big Cuz lol
Jul 31st 2014
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      If they want to play uptempo, Plumlee makes more sense.
Jul 31st 2014
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      Boogie would double chokeslam Coach K & Jerry
Jul 31st 2014
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           how mad would you be if kyrie and plumlee make it over wall and cousins
Jul 31st 2014
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                Kyrie is expected. Boogie would make me heated.
Jul 31st 2014
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                     Might as well get ready, writing is on the wall
Jul 31st 2014
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                     lol @ Plumlee not being "NBA good."
Jul 31st 2014
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                     Among NBA players he's considered good?
Aug 01st 2014
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                          In terms of talent? Absolutely.
Aug 01st 2014
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                               LMAO....No, he's not. It's cuz you're a Duke fan.
Aug 01st 2014
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                                    Did anyone here say he's an All-Star?
Aug 01st 2014
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                                         No, but YOU had a problem with me saying h'es not NBA good.
Aug 01st 2014
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                                              I think his talent is NBA good, unquestionably. He's just a rookie.
Aug 01st 2014
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                                              80% of the NBA has talent to be good. So what?
Aug 01st 2014
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                                              how many Suns game u watch dude?
Aug 01st 2014
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                                                   He means Mason, not Miles.
Aug 01st 2014
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                                                        lol
Aug 01st 2014
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                                                        Because I don't throw around the word "good".
Aug 01st 2014
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                     the basketball reasons for taking plumlee > cuz make sense
Jul 31st 2014
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                     offensive post play is usually de-emphasized in FIBA because the refs...
Aug 01st 2014
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                          Basketball logic not allowed in this discussion.
Aug 01st 2014
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                          And you would be incorrect in assuming Plumlee is better defensively...
Aug 01st 2014
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                               its not really about who's a better basketball player more more who's a....
Aug 01st 2014
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                                    Basing on everything Demarcus has done and already proven that...
Aug 01st 2014
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                                         I haven't been at any of the practices and I'm not picking the team but....
Aug 01st 2014
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                                              For the most part, Team USA has picked the most skilled...
Aug 01st 2014
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                                                   RE: For the most part, Team USA has picked the most skilled...
Aug 01st 2014
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                                                        RE: For the most part, Team USA has picked the most skilled...
Aug 01st 2014
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                     RBO please get ready to get mad, read this, and troll this dude
Aug 01st 2014
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                          All dude needed was the final paragraph.
Aug 01st 2014
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                          Nah it's 100% about him going to Duke. Just stop.
Aug 01st 2014
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                          lol, k
Aug 01st 2014
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                          remember: logic not allowed in basketball discussions
Aug 01st 2014
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                          Man, I ain't reading all that dumb bullshit.
Aug 01st 2014
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                          this "given the minutes"-derivative shit is so insulting to demarcus
Aug 01st 2014
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Harden vs Durant vs PG King of the Hill style
Jul 31st 2014
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i still don't believe harden will actually try on d against finland or w...
Jul 31st 2014
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...
Aug 05th 2014
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did the cameraman take a break on PGs offensive plays?
Jul 31st 2014
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      right.
Jul 31st 2014
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Rosters for Blue White Scrimmage tomorrow 9pm EST
Jul 31st 2014
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white team winning.
Jul 31st 2014
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RE: white team winning.
Jul 31st 2014
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USA Basketball Showcase Rosters
Aug 01st 2014
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Day 4 Roundup: Plumlee Gets Shot At National Team
Aug 01st 2014
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Quotes From Day 4 Of Men's National Team Training Camp
Aug 01st 2014
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Plumlee's smart as hell.
Aug 01st 2014
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      I'm sure before he even got there he and Coach K had conversations...
Aug 01st 2014
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           That's pretty much all they had to do at Duke too, lol.
Aug 01st 2014
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                RE: That's pretty much all they had to do at Duke too, lol.
Aug 01st 2014
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                     Outside of Elton Brand...
Aug 01st 2014
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                          Booz and even Shelden got to do their thing too...
Aug 01st 2014
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                          Man, Shelden was almost exclusively putbacks on offense, lol.
Aug 01st 2014
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                          not true. Booz and Shelden got fed.
Aug 01st 2014
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                               They may have on occasion, but esp. with Shelden...
Aug 01st 2014
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game on.
Aug 01st 2014
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LAWD JESUS! D. ROSE. nm
Aug 01st 2014
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A physical beast.
Aug 01st 2014
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hes baaaaack
Aug 01st 2014
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yeah they should've balanced these teams better.
Aug 01st 2014
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PG looked like ass. I'm scared.
Aug 01st 2014
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harden iss actually trying on defense
Aug 01st 2014
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      Both are impressive.
Aug 01st 2014
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None of the non-Davis bigs are playing well at all.
Aug 01st 2014
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Word? Looks only like Plumlee not playing well. Cuz balling.
Aug 01st 2014
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      Huh? I've seen all of them struggle.
Aug 01st 2014
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           And as I write that, Plumlee comes alive top of the third.
Aug 01st 2014
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           Now Cousins responding to the Plumlee spurt.
Aug 01st 2014
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           Boogie getting all of the rebounds. And lol @ once
Aug 01st 2014
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                *shrug* Admittedly, I missed small parts of the first.
Aug 01st 2014
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PG is playing like he's somehow earned a green light
Aug 01st 2014
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      George must be leading in shot attempts.
Aug 01st 2014
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I'm starting to wonder if Cousins and Plumlee BOTH make it.
Aug 01st 2014
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george has been absolute trash.
Aug 01st 2014
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Can you get NyQuil over the counter in Europe?
Aug 01st 2014
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Dog that paul george injury made me hurl
Aug 01st 2014
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I had Shaun Livingston flashbacks. Brutal brutal brutal.
Aug 01st 2014
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my wife and I both jumped ..def Livingstinesque
Aug 01st 2014
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Makes me sick man. Horrible. End the game now.
Aug 01st 2014
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dammit. sh*t happened on a hustle play too. nm
Aug 01st 2014
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damn. that looked REALLY bad.
Aug 01st 2014
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aw man that's fuckin horrible. damn pg.
Aug 01st 2014
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Paul George is out for the season. Damn.
Aug 01st 2014
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injury like that could be seasons
Aug 01st 2014
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and dudes gotta go back out there and play. smh.
Aug 01st 2014
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I bet they'll call the scrimmage now.
Aug 01st 2014
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COT DAMN!!! PG's leg smh...that looked AWFUL
Aug 01st 2014
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Everybody loses with this.
Aug 01st 2014
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yeah that's awful: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuABh1hCEAA04x_.jpg
Aug 01st 2014
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fuuuuck
Aug 01st 2014
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Damn, that's crazy. Praying for PG.
Aug 01st 2014
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thats horrific, daaaam those pics
Aug 01st 2014
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What's sad is that this could be career ending
Aug 01st 2014
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Dudes are gonna start backing out of Team USA now
Aug 01st 2014
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RE: Rose gonna start backing out of Team USA now
Aug 01st 2014
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Did you see Durant's face...
Aug 01st 2014
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Kevin Love looks like a genius now
Aug 01st 2014
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I'm more concerned about owners/GMs.
Aug 01st 2014
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man i hope not.
Aug 01st 2014
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Praying for George
Aug 01st 2014
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He's never playing again bros
Aug 01st 2014
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Kevin Ware, Shaun Livingston, Willis McGahee, Marcus Lattimore
Aug 01st 2014
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This shit hurt man
Aug 01st 2014
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didnt kenyon martin break his leg too
Aug 01st 2014
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if it's "just" a fracture, with no joint or ligament damage
Aug 01st 2014
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      pretty much.
Aug 01st 2014
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      yeah basically
Aug 01st 2014
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whooo shiiiiit, man. FOCK.
Aug 01st 2014
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it's a fractured tibia...this ain't ligaments. he'll be fine
Aug 01st 2014
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Let's hope so. That looks worse than a knee injury.
Aug 01st 2014
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Will he be back for a full season before Rose though?
Aug 01st 2014
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I just can't....
Aug 01st 2014
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Windhorst is talking about the Thomas & Mack Center
Aug 01st 2014
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I was just coming to ask if they appeared closer than normal
Aug 02nd 2014
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wow ..the knicks have a chance now..
Aug 01st 2014
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Lol yup....i had the knicks as the 9th seed early yesterday
Aug 02nd 2014
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Y'all words are enough. I'm not watching that sh*t. Praying for dude
Aug 01st 2014
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this is nothing like the livingston injury btw.
Aug 01st 2014
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It's like Livingston's in the sense that it's vomit-inducing.
Aug 01st 2014
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How does everyone know so much without a true medical eval
Aug 01st 2014
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      clean break or not, are there examples of...
Aug 01st 2014
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      nothing's conclusive yet
Aug 02nd 2014
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      Arm chair orthopedic surgeons with PHDs in Google
Aug 02nd 2014
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           this is why the "will Rose be the same" agenda war made zero sense to me
Aug 02nd 2014
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                those discussions took place over the course of 2 yrs, multiple injuries
Aug 02nd 2014
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Yup
Aug 02nd 2014
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The Bulls need to pull D. Rose ASAP.
Aug 01st 2014
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Dry heaved while watching that. Horrible.
Aug 01st 2014
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Career ended too soon.
Aug 01st 2014
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Wut
Aug 02nd 2014
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yeah man...that's fukked up....
Aug 01st 2014
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lotta OK MDs in here
Aug 02nd 2014
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Didn't see it. Just gotta hope the dude gets better. Sad.
Aug 02nd 2014
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^^^^^ my sentiments exactly
Aug 02nd 2014
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Horrific looking injury for PG but looked like a clean compound break
Aug 02nd 2014
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RE: USA Basketball 2014 FIBA World Cup Post
Aug 02nd 2014
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tough situation for PG and the pacers...
Aug 02nd 2014
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Broken fibula and tibia for PG, hopefully no nerve damage
Aug 02nd 2014
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No good reason for Plumlee to be selected over Big Cuz **swipe**
Aug 02nd 2014
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lol
Aug 02nd 2014
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tried to avoid the PG footage but I saw it.... my god...
Aug 02nd 2014
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same here.. i dont like this type of shit..
Aug 02nd 2014
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thankfully, no knee or ankle damage (per windhorst)
Aug 02nd 2014
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It's better to break a bone than to tear a ligament or muscle
Aug 02nd 2014
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breaking down the remaining roster.
Aug 05th 2014
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Wildcat on Wildcat violence: AD takes out Cuz...
Aug 14th 2014
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Anthony Davis...
Aug 16th 2014
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If he can stay healthy...he is going to be nutting on every frontline
Aug 16th 2014
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by the end of next season, he'll be the 3rd best player in the world.
Aug 16th 2014
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I don't think there was a 3+ pass possession.
Aug 16th 2014
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Word? With those unselfish point guards?
Aug 17th 2014
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      RE: Word? With those unselfish point guards?
Aug 17th 2014
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           This game cemented why I hate Harden's game
Aug 17th 2014
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           he mad Johnny Be Average isn't needed.
Aug 17th 2014
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                kyrie's a great teammate btw.
Aug 17th 2014
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                     kyrie likes winning more than he hates losing
Aug 17th 2014
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Irving to start...
Aug 29th 2014
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Asik & them Turks gettin in that ass nm
Aug 31st 2014
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ergin ataman is running a clinic.
Aug 31st 2014
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fiba lists asik's height as 6'12"
Aug 31st 2014
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Turkey is running an offense properly, we are not.
Aug 31st 2014
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BROWZUS
Aug 31st 2014
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Faried is a stud.
Aug 31st 2014
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just think of how much talent has been through denver these last few yea...
Aug 31st 2014
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i think there was something to it.
Sep 01st 2014
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Dude looking like a young K-Mart out there
Sep 01st 2014
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      Like a young underachiever? LOL. No.
Sep 02nd 2014
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           K-Mart & franchise big men should never be mentioned together
Sep 05th 2014
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dieng and senegal squeezing out wins
Sep 01st 2014
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Pau obliterated Nene nm
Sep 01st 2014
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      nene's good for like 2 series every 3 years
Sep 01st 2014
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Glad Ky Ky ain't been buttfuck hideous like some people
Sep 01st 2014
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This team ain't winning Gold.
Sep 01st 2014
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Your objection has been noted and the witness will be heard
Sep 01st 2014
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not while Harden is being passed to
Sep 01st 2014
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They ain't playing a 7 game series, it's one game
Sep 01st 2014
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and the last time we worried about experience, Spain got beat in the qf
Sep 01st 2014
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      yup!
Sep 10th 2014
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Lemme kno if u wanna put any $ down on that, I'll go US, u got the field
Sep 01st 2014
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FIBA 76er side note: Super Dario showin his skill/toughness this tourney
Sep 01st 2014
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http://tinyurl.com/q2xu6cu
Sep 01st 2014
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      Pretty good but I'm down with the plan, next year our last lotto team
Sep 02nd 2014
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If they keep following Anthony Davis, they should get the gold.
Sep 01st 2014
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Y'all thought I was crazy on the pod for saying Brow, not KD, would be t...
Sep 02nd 2014
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      oh i'm fully on board w/ this
Sep 02nd 2014
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      That's MY agenda
Sep 02nd 2014
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      won't take that long.
Sep 02nd 2014
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      wait, what?
Sep 02nd 2014
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           i don't 'have him down' as anything.
Sep 02nd 2014
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                He did talk extra greazy about the Brow. I think there were others...
Sep 02nd 2014
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                ^^^completely throwing it out there
Sep 02nd 2014
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                     http://tinyurl.com/MyNameIsTruthMyEvalsAreBooBoo
Sep 02nd 2014
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                          a lot of people that are all in now were cautious then, I see you didn't...
Sep 02nd 2014
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                          i wasn't even on the boards then. i left for like a year.
Sep 02nd 2014
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                               ^^^PLEAS COPPED
Sep 02nd 2014
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                                    lulz
Sep 02nd 2014
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                          good god these predictions are horrible
Sep 02nd 2014
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                               That's why this shit is great. I still think Lamb would do well...
Sep 02nd 2014
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                               better than a search function, because i know what you said about tyreke
Sep 02nd 2014
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                                    why u being defensive?
Sep 02nd 2014
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                                         not being defensive...just sayin the search function sucks
Sep 02nd 2014
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                                              I thought DMC was gonna be Peterson mixed with Herschel.
Sep 02nd 2014
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                                                   all i know is he's another one not better than reggie bush
Sep 03rd 2014
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                                                        I was on the wrong side of Reggie vs DMC.
Sep 03rd 2014
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                                                             i woulda been on the wrong side of AP vs. Jesus, so I don't feel bad
Sep 03rd 2014
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      I always said A.D. would be the next Tim Duncan.
Sep 02nd 2014
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Pau your second best scorer. © Basaglia
Sep 02nd 2014
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he not?
Sep 02nd 2014
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that was dudes thesis, lmao
Sep 02nd 2014
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some good analysis on Team USA's flaws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=...
Sep 02nd 2014
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remember like 3 weeks ago where harden tried for half a practice
Sep 02nd 2014
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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bwig176IQAAjM2r.png
Sep 02nd 2014
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Unreal.
Sep 02nd 2014
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nigga look like Slenderman
Sep 03rd 2014
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aron baynes says "y'all really wanna replace me with ayon?"
Sep 03rd 2014
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VIV LA FRANCE!!!
Sep 10th 2014
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it gets all the VIVING...ALL OF IT!!!
Sep 10th 2014
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...
Sep 10th 2014
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Bon Bon!!!
Sep 10th 2014
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lmfao
Sep 10th 2014
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France finally accomplished something they couldn't WITH Top5
Sep 11th 2014
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      I don't put much stock in stuff like that to be honest
Sep 11th 2014
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man we are wrecking Serbia. kyrie went in.
Sep 14th 2014
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KYRIE'S TEAM
Sep 14th 2014
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      #ANOTHERPATCH
Sep 14th 2014
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So much for the world catching up with us.
Sep 14th 2014
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France missing Top5/Joakim & a bunch of NBA players
Sep 14th 2014
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Yugoslavia broke up too n.m.
Sep 14th 2014
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lol, what has France ever won?
Sep 15th 2014
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France beat Spain w/o Joakim in the 2013 Euro Finals
Sep 16th 2014
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USA missing top 1 bron, top 2 lev, top 3? blake
Sep 15th 2014
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      right, that USA pipeline is still thick, Spain, Brazil, Argentina and......
Sep 15th 2014
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           i don't think they're going away though...except for spain/arg they all ...
Sep 15th 2014
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Yea anticlimactic like shit
Sep 15th 2014
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Lmao, woj is mad about...something
Sep 15th 2014
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he's kinda right though, I basically said the same thing a while back
Sep 15th 2014
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He's right on many points
Sep 15th 2014
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The only thing he's right about is the "no duh" part.
Sep 15th 2014
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      The Kentucky "Combine" isn't just for recruiting.
Sep 15th 2014
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           USA Basketball helps the kids, K's with it.
Sep 15th 2014
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                Ok, I'm not saying anything diff.
Sep 15th 2014
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                     We're on the same page. Point is, Woj treats them differently.
Sep 16th 2014
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he's wrong
Sep 15th 2014
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DAT BEAN
Sep 16th 2014
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1. " Men's National Team Sets the Tone On Day 1 At Training Camp"
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http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2014/07/mens-national-team-sets-the-tone-on-day-1-at-training-camp.aspx

Men's National Team Sets the Tone On Day 1 At Training Camp
Author: Taylor Bern Date: Jul 28, 2014
Las Vegas, Nevada

Additional Day 1 Quotes

Day 1 Photo Gallery

If the final scrimmage of Mondays practice is any indication, its going to be a highly competitive and entertaining training camp for the USA Mens National Team.


The team started its month-long march towards the FIBA Basketball World Cup on Monday at the Mendenhall Center on UNLVs campus. Between the National and Select teams there were 31 of the countrys best players spread out between two courts, and for players with previous USA Basketball experience it was a chance to reintroduce themselves to the foundation built by head coach Mike Krzyzewski and his staff.

I learn so much and I soak it all in, said two-time Ggold-medal winner Kevin Durant. Its an exciting time.

The practices in Las Vegas culminate with an intrasquad scrimmage on Friday, Aug. 1, at the Thomas & Mack Center. Then on Aug. 14-16 the team continues its training camp in Chicago.

Chicago Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau ran a majority of the first practice on one court. It started out with a lot of walk-throughs and some specific plays but it didnt take long to get the group starting to resemble teammates.

Its not going to happen in one day, Thibodeau said, but when you have the type of talent that we do, if you get them committed to playing basketball on both sides as a five-man group thats your best chance for success.

The National Team went 2-0 in a pair of 12-minute scrimmages against the Select Team, although both were close and each required a comeback. In the final scrimmage, the teams were split up more evenly for one 10-minute game. The result was an exciting back-and-forth affair that went down to the wire. The Blue Team, featuring Durant, James Harden and Paul George, among others, held on for a three-point victory.

It was only one day and an admittedly light one at that but the highlights are already piling up. From Andre Drummonds rejection at the rim to Kyrie Irvings drive with a finesse finish, the competition figures to only pick up from here.

Theres a lot for the coaching staff to figure out as training camp pushes forward. One thing they know for sure, though, is that they have plenty of options.

We have great versatility, Thibodeau said. Well find our style.

Familiar Faces
Oklahoma City Thunder guard Russell Westbrook announced earlier this month that he wouldnt chase a third gold medal on the Mens National Team. That didnt mean he was going to stay away from training camp, though.

Westbrook dropped by Mendenhall for the majority of Mondays practice, catching up with National Team managing director Jerry Colangelo, Krzyzewski and assistant coach Jim Boeheim, and also spending a lot of time on the bench with the current players. Westbrook even carved out some time for an old teammate, new New York Knicks coach Derek Fisher, and when he decided Durant had put in enough media time, Westbrook politely called for one last question before pulling his friend and Thunder teammate out to the court for more shots.

Including Westbrook, the first practice brought out a lot of basketball luminaries. It was also irresistible for a local like Chase Jeter, a high school senior-to-be who earlier this summer won a gold medal for the USA at the FIBA Americas U18 Championship.

Flight School
While many players cleared themselves for takeoff towards the rim at Mondays practice, upstairs a trio of fighter pilots who do that for real looked on.

USA Basketball extended a practice invite to United States Air Force pilots at Nellis Air Force Base, which is located about a half hour northeast of the UNLV campus. Three pilots, all members of the USAFs elite Weapons School, and their families were able to stop by. While their kids ran around bouncing basketballs and playing hide-and-seek, Colonel Adrian Spain was watching the court and noticing a parallel between the USA team and the Weapons School, which takes already elite pilots and puts them through rigorous training.

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2. "Additional Quotes From Day 1 Of Men's National Team Training Camp"
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http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2014/07/mens-national-team-sets-the-tone-on-day-1-at-training-camp.aspx

Additional Quotes From Day 1 Of Men's National Team Training Camp
Date: Jul 28, 2014
Kevin Durant:


On committing to the World Cup of basketball:
I always wanted to be here. My basketball life is short when you look at it in the grand scheme of things. I really want to play as much as I can and try not to worry about my body. I know that sounds a little crazy and a little whacky. I want to take care of myself but at the same time I want to play and experience all this stuff. I learn so much. I soak it all in. Its an exciting time and right now I am enjoying it. I want to have some memories to look back on because in 10, 12, 15 years it flies by.
On the players in training camp:
These guys have been a part of the program for so long. Thats the great part about Jerry (Colangelo) and Coach K. They make sure we have a plan four to six years ahead. These guys have been here before and know the system. They know the coaches and its up to us to go out there and perform.

On representing the USA:
You dream about representing your country in some type of way. To go out there and do it on the basketball court, something that you love to do, you cant beat that. All these guys appreciate this opportunity. We never want to take it for granted.

Derrick Rose:


On missing the game and returning to the court:
Im just happy to be here. I missed the game a lot. My appreciation and feeling for the game is bigger. Every time I step on the floor is going to be a show. Im happy that Coach K invited me to camp. Im just trying to shake off the rust. I have goals and being on this team is one of them. These guys push me to a whole other level. Its an honor to be here and to play with these guys.

On finishing and scoring on his acrobatic layup in the scrimmage today:
(laughing) Just competing again feels great especially playing against the younger guys and the younger bigs who are all trying to beat your shot. This will knock the rust off for a good year. I just want to improve every day.

On the health of his knee:
Its good. There is no pain. Thats the past.

Chandler Parsons:


On having a busy offseason and getting back into a basketball rhythm:
Its awesome. First of all, its a huge honor to be here, to be able to compete against these top-notch level players, in front of all of these very important Hall of Fame coaches. Its flattering and humbling to be here and I think its going to pay off just being able to get in the gym with these guys.


On if hes working to play more in the paint:
Yeah. Just to continue to get stronger and work on my all around game and be a mismatch when I go to the perimeter at the four and play stretch-forward. Just as tough as it is for me to guard those big guys down low, its tough for them to guard me on the perimeter. So I think I can present mismatches and just continue to work. Im willing to do whatever it takes for me to help this team win.

On putting on a USA jersey this morning:
Man! Its a huge honor. I get goose bumps on my arms every time I put it on and every time you see U-S-A across your chest, it means something. Its flattering. Its humbling. I look forward to working extremely hard this week and doing whatever I can to help this team win and to make the team.

On if he was surprised about anything from the first day:
No, nothing real surprising. Its kind of the same structure as last year. Its just so great to be playing against these top-notch players and with these unbelievable coaches. Theres no better way to get better than to come out here and compete against these guys.

On how he prepared for training camp:
Ive been in LA (Los Angeles). Its difficult for me because going through free agency, I couldnt really play pick-up. This was the first time I played pick up since Game 6 of the (2014) playoffs. But just keep it in the gym, getting stronger, lifting weights with Gunnar Peterson in LA and doing on the court (work) with Rob McClanaghan. So Ive been doing that for like two-to-three weeks now. Everyone is a little rusty, but Im sure as the week goes on, well shake that off.

On how he felt he played individually today:
Individually, I thought I did pretty good. My thing is just to do all the little things, do whatever they need me to do. Knock down shots, play defense, rebound the basketball. Im here to do whatever they need me to do. Whether thats play point-guard, play power forward, play center, Ill do whatever to bring the gold medal home.

On his childhood memories of USA Basketball:
(I remember) How much pride and passion it is going to the Olympics. Thats always been my dream is All-Star (games), championships and being an Olympian. Theres nothing like playing for your country. Watching all those teams with the Dream Team, watching Vince (Carter) jump over the big dude (72 Frederic Weis). Its just all surreal and crazy to me that now Im a part of that.

On if hes expecting the same type of structure Tuesday:
Yeah, for sure. Im sure theyre going to get more extensive. Today was a lot of teaching and a lot of talking. But tomorrow Im sure it will get more competitive and as the week goes on, its going to get more serious and more serious.

Anthony Davis:


On what he likes most about the USA Basketball experience:
Its fun. Its fun to represent Team USA and Im just happy to be here. Not a lot of guys can say that they did this, so Im very excited and ready to get the ball rolling.

On what type of leadership he displays:
Im working on it. Im still working on it. Im not sure. (I finished) The end of my second (NBA) year, I havent even been in my third year, so Im still trying to figure that out.

Paul George:


On Derrick Rose:
He looked great. He looked like he didnt miss a beat. It looked like he played last season as well as a full season before that. Im happy to see him back on the floor. Although hes in the East and in the Central Division, I still hate to see guys go down. Its great to see him out here. He looks great and Im excited to play alongside him.

On if he changed his preparation when he found out about the camp:
No, not really. Its just getting used to the (FIBA) basketball. Learning how to dribble, learning how to shoot with it. And just doing repetition stuff and making sure my body was conditioned well enough. Its a different intensity playing with this team.

On if he feels hes adjusted to the USA Basketball coaching staff this year:
Yeah, were starting to understand what Coach K (Mike Krzyzewski) likes and his playing style. Were starting to transform more and more every year on the way he plays the game. Its been great for both of us, Coach K as well as the players because he has a different mind and he has a great mind of the game. He helps a lot of us out and myself, Ive learned a lot from him.

On going against the Select Team:
Its great. Theyre still great young pros in this league. Were still getting the most out of our training going against those guys because all of them, at the end of the day, want to be where were at. I started out on the Select Team and I worked my way up to where Im fortunate to play with the main team. So its a great start for those guys. Its good competition for us as well as a great experience for them and I know a lot of them are going to go back to their (NBA) teams better.

Stephen Curry:


On being in the gym with some of the best talent in the world:
Its a great day. This is something you look forward to all summer. (Its) the best players in the world preparing to represent our country. It was exciting. A little rusty at first, but we got into the flow of it and had fun competing. The best part of this week is were all trying to make the team and figure out how were going to play together. But we compete along the way and make each other better, so its fun.

On the challenge of this week:
We know theres a lot of talent across the world that were going to have to face if were going to try and get this gold medal so everybody has to remain the same player that they are on their respected teams, but sacrifice a little bit to become one unit and thats the mission that Coach K has us on. A lot of us have experience with USA Basketball so it should be a pretty smooth transition.

On how this experience helps him get better for the regular season:
I can get a lot better playing against this type of competition day-in and day-out. A lot of people say you should be resting, this and that but when youre able to show off what youve been working on all summer, I guess its kind of competition. Youre bound to get better, learn some things here and there and take that back to the regular season.

On the different USA Basketball coaches:
Its awesome. You study the game and you know these guys have been leading teams and coming up with these game-plans for years. It is different than philosophies and systems I run in Golden State with other coaches, but as a basketball player, you become more well-rounded having been impacted by these guys along the way. They put together a great staff, and theyre going to do a great job for us.

Coach K:


On the new dynamic look of the team:
Well, in 2010, we didnt have any of those guys (Lebron, Kobe). The dynamic is always changing. There is a dynamic for the Olympics and there is a dynamic for the World Cup because of how people want to be involved with it. The veterans on this team, especially led by Kevin Durant and James Harden, those guys have to provide leadership. Steph Curry has been on our team. Derrick Rose was our starting guard in 2010. He would have been on the Olympic team if he wasnt hurt. We have to rely on the leadership and start with those guys as the base.

On evaluating the players:
For us, we have to take a look at them as who they are as a U.S. player and not who they are as an NBA player. These guys play 35 to 40 minutes and are dominant players on their team. Here you dont get as many shots or minutes. So they can play defense harder. They dont need to pace themselves. Thats what we are trying to take a look at: use the 12-man roster which we have done to be successful these last three competitions.

On representing the USA:
Its a great honor to represent your country whether it be a coach, an assistant coach or player. Its the ultimate honor. These guys realize that. We had a good team meeting last night. Today we are trying to get a foundation defensively and for me and Jim Boeheim to see them in person and see how they react. Tomorrow we will make some changes. It will be a little different practice.

On the bigs:
We lost two big guys in the last 48 hours. We are going to have to have active bigs. Our main guy is Anthony Davis and we will see who else fits in. But also how they fit in with the other guys. You have a core group of about eight guys and you hope another big is one of those guys.

Jerry Colangelo:


On first day of camp:
I thought it was a great opening day for us just to see the guys back in action again. When you have a former MVP in the league like Derrick Rose who has been out for so long and all the questions surrounding himwhere would he be? It almost appeared that he hasnt missed much in the way of a beat. He played with enthusiasm, some reckless abandon, he went to the basket and he played with a smile. He was just happy to be on the court and we are happy to see him on the court.

On utilizing prior training camp experiences in prepsaring for this camp:
Its almost like repetition for us. Weve done this enough times that it becomes second nature. Its a wonderful way for us to prepare our teams for international competition here in Las Vegas.

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3. "Chandler Parsons: Playing For USA Basketball A 'Surreal' Experience"
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http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2014/07/playing-for-usa-basketball-a-surreal-experience-for-chandler-parsons.aspx

Chandler Parsons: Playing For USA Basketball A 'Surreal' Experience
Author: Taylor Bern Date: Jul 29, 2014
Las Vegas, Nevada

Chandler Parsons is unlikely to ever experience another day like July 13, 2014.

The mixed emotions of officially changing teams from the Houston Rockets to the Dallas Mavericks would have been enough, but it was that same night that Parsons was invited to compete in training camp for the USA Mens National Team. With everything else going on, did Parsons need a minute to consider the opportunity?

Less than half a second, he said. There was no way I was going to turn this down.

While he didnt necessarily plan on changing NBA teams, Parsons has planned on wearing a USA jersey for a long time. Like most Americans, Parsons has fond memories of the Dream Team. He also remembers Vince Carters defining dunk over 7-foot-2 Frederic Weis of France in 2000, and Parsons would like the chance to create his own red, white and blue highlights.

Watching all those teams as a kid its still surreal to me that Im here but hopefully I can take advantage of this opportunity, he said.

Parsons, a 6-9 small forward, is one of 19 players competing for 12 spots on the USA Basketball roster for the FIBA Basketball World Cup in Spain. The World Cup doesnt start for another month but training camp got underway Monday with the National Team and a dozen Select Team players taking over the courts at the Mendenhall Center on UNLVs campus.

If players like LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony had decided to compete this summer, there might not have been space for Parsons in camp. Their absence is his possible gain.

The dynamic is always changing, said head coach Mike Krzyzewski. There is a dynamic for the Olympics and there is a dynamic for the World Cup because of how people want to be involved with it.

One guy who committed himself to chasing a third straight gold medal is Oklahoma City Thunder forward Kevin Durant. He emerged from a star-studded lineup to average a USA Team best 22.8 points per game and claim MVP honors at the World Championship in 2010. Now that hes the leader and face of USA Basketball, Durant said hes not worried about having to carry the load by himself because of the way Krzyzewski and managing director Jerry Colangelo structure the teams.

They make sure we have a plan four to six years ahead, Durant said. These guys have been here before and know the system.

Parsons only previous USA Basketball experience was at mini-camp last summer. Still, he held his own going against Durant for much of Mondays practices and had to pinch himself to make sure this experience was real.

Playing for USA Basketball still gives me goose bumps, just saying that and putting on the jersey, Parsons said. It will never get old.

Parsons best chance at making the 12-man roster is by utilizing his versatility. His outside shooting creates matchup problems on offense, but the key for a demanding, defensive-minded coaching staff will be how well he performs at the other end.

He can stretch the floor and hopefully play defense on multiple positions, Krzyzewski. He wants to be here and hes going to be in contention for one of those spots where hes a complimentary player.

To Parsons it doesnt matter what kind of role he has on the World Cup roster, just so long as he has one. A lot changed for Parsons on July 13 and doing whatever he can to help USA Basketball win gold would go a long way in defining both that day and his future.

This is a big summer for me, Parsons said. I have a lot to prove.

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7. "he's 6'9?"
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>Parsons, a 6-9 small forward

I thought he was like 6'7

dude needs to develop some post moves. he would be a f*ckin beast if he had an all-around game at that size

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8. "Glad he's enjoying his experience because I doubt he makes the squad"
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so this article is really a worthless piece of fluff in a slow news cycle...

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9. "Actually he's got a good shot, he could see some minutes as a stretch 4"
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12. "at this point i'd say the deserving roster is like 14-5 dudes"
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either parsons or korver is going to be out but thats not as tough as wall and lillard pretty much being locks to get cut if rose is gonna show up

  

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13. " "14-5 dudes"?"
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>either parsons or korver is going to be out but thats not as
>tough as wall and lillard pretty much being locks to get cut
>if rose is gonna show up

Yeah if Rose is really looking as good as the say he is Wall and Lillard are out because Curry and Kyrie are pretty much locks

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14. "all indications are that curry's playing SG"
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so it wouldn't surprise me if 3 of the other 4 PGs make it.

i think parsons makes it, and they play him as a 'big' along with AD, KD and boog.




>>either parsons or korver is going to be out but thats not
>as
>>tough as wall and lillard pretty much being locks to get cut
>>if rose is gonna show up
>
>Yeah if Rose is really looking as good as the say he is Wall
>and Lillard are out because Curry and Kyrie are pretty much
>locks

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15. "No way Coach K doesn't put Kyrie on the team. "
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He'd put JJ Redick on the squad if it was possible.

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16. "maybe it's because kyrie's been incredible in every USA event since 2010"
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maybe...but go ahead and cushion yourself.

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17. "C'mon, let's not play dumb now. "
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18. "what happened last summer in team usa pactices and scrimmage?"
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see, you wanna act like this shit don't matter, but it does.

by all accounts, lillard and wall have not been impressive this week, especially lillard.

but keep actin like it's a fluke that kyrie always excels when all things are equal. he passing to hayward, beal and klay off screens this week...um, they shoot and catch. they not dion.

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19. "All things equal or games that don't matter?"
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21. "Gotta take that into consideration, too - I'd say both Wall and Lillard"
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moved past Kyrie in the PG race based on what each one of them did last (regular) season...

Kyrie actually took a step back last season imo and had me re-thinking the idea of him being a *franchise playet* but he got Bron Bron w/him now so that's going to help him out tremendously as a player...

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22. "oh, but games do matter...they really really do"
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too bad they aren't being picked based on NBA games. they gotta compete against each for spots and whenever they have to do that...we know what happens.

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24. "Yeah we know what happens...Coach K picks Kyrie"
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25. "he shoots and passes for him, too"
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26. "C'mon fam, we know Kyrie don't pass. "
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27. "reluctantly to dion and tristan...but to Klay and Davis?"
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ShhhEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEIIIIIIIIIIIIIIT.


you see it?

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32. "lolz"
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40. "that was good. did not see it coming."
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20. "Yep, he embarrassed every pg there, so no surprise if he makes it"
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>see, you wanna act like this shit don't matter, but it does.
>
>
>by all accounts, lillard and wall have not been impressive
>this week, especially lillard.
>
>but keep actin like it's a fluke that kyrie always excels when
>all things are equal. he passing to hayward, beal and klay off
>screens this week...um, they shoot and catch. they not dion.

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28. "uhhh, Portland twitter passing around a Lillard scrimmage winning 3FG"
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>by all accounts, lillard and wall have not been impressive
>this week, especially lillard.

I don't think Lillard should start in Spain, but if they don't bring him along for his 3-point shooting alone, I'll be shocked. He can sink from anywhere, at any moment, and he doesn't even have to be the primary ballhandler with the lineup Team USA can bring along.

http://forwardcenter.net/lillard-has-his-best-day-at-team-usa-tryouts/

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30. "RE: uhhh, Portland twitter passing around a Lillard scrimmage winning 3F..."
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Former Manhattan and Seton Hall head coach Bobby Gonzalez also noted Smart's standout play in a column for SheridanHoops.com

"I did manage to watch the point guards a bit. Damian Lillard was disappointing, and there was a stretch where both Marcus Smart and Victor Oladipo of the Select Team flat-out took it to Wizards teammates John Wall and Bradley Beal...While there is a point guard battle going on with the national team, the Select Team had young point guards who also did some damage today, further stressing that the future of the point position in the NBA is in good hands with Marcus Smart and Trey Burke."

And Sam Amico and Goodman tweeted some shit too, but i don't feel like digging.

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31. "Damian's longball>whatever some hack beatwriter rushed thru for deadline"
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I don't care about Smart v. Lillard in a USA camp scrimmage. I care that we have two years of evidence that the 2nd best 3FG shooter at the PG position, after Curry, is Lillard. I want that freak longball (with NO fear) on the bench in Spain.

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37. "just saying what's been leaking out, man. "
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Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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4. "Day 2: Roundup Competition and Intensity Mount"
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http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2014/07/day-2-roundup-competition-and-intensity-mounts.aspx

Day 2: Roundup Competition and Intensity Mount
Author: Taylor Bern Date: Jul 29, 2014
Las Vegas, Nevada

Quotes From Day 2

Video: Coach K Wired For Sound

Video: Derrick Rose Alley Oop

They kept coming in waves, groups of five subbing in off the bench like a line change in hockey. Theres little rest to be found at USA Mens National Team practice as the team continues to add plays and intensity while preparing for next months World Cup in Spain.

The second day of practice started without the Select Team in order to give the top guys more court time to build and expand on Mondays first practice at the Mendenhall Center on UNLVs campus. By the time the full compliment of both teams were there for the scrimmages, the National Team took turns in groups working to run the plays they spent the past two days learning.

Today was one of those days where you let the dust settle and you see more of everybodys game, said assistant coach Monty Williams. Put some more structure out there and I thought it worked pretty well.

While there was some on-court instruction on Monday, the players and coaches agreed that Tuesday was much more focused on those sorts of specific sets. It took the extra day to let a little of the pageantry wear off and get closer to a normal practice environment.

Coach (Mike Krzyzewski) did a good job of getting guys into playing quicker and I think it settled everybody down, Williams said.

A lot of eyes again focused on Derrick Rose, who practiced with the Blue Team alongside James Harden and Damian Lillard, among others. Everyone is looking for any small health clues and constantly asking Rose about his knee but the Chicago Bulls guard said he feels good and is more focused on developing as a player than monitoring his health. Krzyzewski agreed, saying that there was no drop-off from day one to day two from Rose.

It was at a high level yesterday so for him to play at that level and then play at it again shows that hes worked real hard, Krzyzewski said. Were very, very pleased.

Victor Oladipo hit a 3-pointer in the last seconds of the days final scrimmage to lift his Select Team over the White Team, a shot that will likely be avenged in the coming days. Everyone out on the court is highly competitive and as the National Team continues to add wrinkles the practices and scrimmages should only get more intense.

It was a lot better today and I expect the same for the rest of the week, said 2012 gold medalist Anthony Davis. When guys start figuring out where theyre supposed to be in the plays, its going to definitely pick up. Itll start being more fluent and guys are going to start just playing basketball.

Familiar Faces

While the National Team was getting into its rhythm during the first hour of practice, 2010 World Championship gold medalist Rudy Gay was on the sidelines pulling crossover moves on a 5-year-old.

Gay dropped by to watch some of practice with two-time Olympic gold medalist Chris Paul and Pauls oldest son, Chris Paul Jr. Paul Sr. was busy catching up with USA Basketball managing director Jerry Colangelo and others while Paul Jr. was more interested in trying to steal the ball from Gay or making a basket through the hoop Gay made with his arms.

Current training camp participants Kevin Durant, Stephen Curry and Rose were Gays teammates on that 2010 World Championship team.

The Ol College Try

USA Basketball invited two 2014 draft picks to join the Select Team during this training camp, and so far Marcus Smart and Doug McDermott are making the most of the opportunity.

Smart, especially, has been turning heads during the scrimmages. The Select Teams job is to make the National Team better and Smart is doing that with tough defense and matching shot-for-shot on offense. He was one of the most impressive guards on the court both days regardless of team, which is saying something considering he has yet to play an NBA game.

Its incredible and such an honor, Smart said of training camp. It speaks volumes about how much were liked by the USA Basketball organization.

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11. "Marcus Smart "one of the most impressive guards on the court"..."
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>The Ol College Try
>
>USA Basketball invited two 2014 draft picks to join the Select
>Team during this training camp, and so far Marcus Smart and
>Doug McDermott are making the most of the opportunity.
>
>Smart, especially, has been turning heads during the
>scrimmages. The Select Teams job is to make the National Team
>better and Smart is doing that with tough defense and matching
>shot-for-shot on offense. He was one of the most impressive
>guards on the court both days regardless of team, which is
>saying something considering he has yet to play an NBA game.
>
>Its incredible and such an honor, Smart said of training
>camp. It speaks volumes about how much were liked by the USA
>Basketball organization.

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23. ":17"
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Marcus Smart giving up and Oladipo cleaning shit up

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5. "Quotes From Day 2 of Men's National Team Training Camp"
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Quotes From Day 2 of Men's National Team Training Camp
Date: Jul 29, 2014
Coach Krzyzewski

On Derrick Roses performance today compared to yesterday:

I think he kept it at the same. It was at a high level yesterday. For him to play at that level and then play at it again, shows that he has worked real hard. We are very, very pleased. Coming into the camp, you dont know. He has responded.

On Kyrie Irving:

He had a great day today. Were happy that hes doing that. Part of it is that hes gotten older and understanding the responsibility of being a key player (at Cleveland). Thats a large responsibility. I think he has learned from that and he has brought that into this camp. He was destined to be a great player. He has not only ability but he has character and great intelligence.

On DeMarcus Cousins:

DeMarcus brings a different big man than Anthony (Davis). Just like Andre (Drummond) does. We have to see how we might be able to incorporate that into what we are doing. All the guys are giving a good effort. I thought today was a great day.

On Hoops for Troops:

The (USA Basketball) Hoops for Troops is growing immensely. Over these last nine years, we have developed a great relationship with the military. Marty Dempsey and the NBA have joined forces together this past spring to do even more. Behind the scenes in the NBA is a lady by the name of Kim Bohuny who has really been masterful in coordinating all this. Its helped our USA Basketball to be with the troops and to know what it is about selfless service and patriotism. Hopefully we have benefitted them in some way too.

Its been a huge factor for the growth of our players, not just USA Basketball, but just as Americans. To be cognizant of the sacrifices our servicemen and women make for us and their families.



Monty Williams:

On his observation thus far of camp:

Today we put in more structure and got the guys playing more. The dust settled a little bit. The guys were not thinking as much. They played more natural basketball. That was good. Coach (Krzyzewski) did a good job of getting us into more of a normal practice. This atmosphere is a lot different than what you deal with every day. I thought it was a good day because we played more basketball and guys didnt think as much. Coach gives everyone more freedom to play. Thats a thing a lot of guys like to do in the NBA. Structure but being able to use your game. We saw a lot more of that today.

On what Anthony Davis can contribute to this team:

He just affects the game in so many ways. Offensively, defensively, in transition. Unbelievable effect on the game. Blocking shots, distracting shots. He can score in a number of ways. And hes unselfish.

On Anthony Davis experience from being the youngest player on the 2012 Olympic Team and maturing into a more experienced player:

He knows what to expect going forward. That can only help him. He can lend some advice to the some of the guys who havent been in this situation.

DeMarcus Cousins

On Day Two of practice compared to Day One:
I believe it was a better day today for a lot of people just because this is the second day of being under a system. We understand the system a lot better today. Still a little rusty, but overall I think it was a better day.

On having more coaching instruction today:
Just a lot more explaining of sets, explaining what they want, explaining how they want it done during the run of the game. Early on, there was a lot of teaching. It kind of helped later on with the runs.

On how the USA Basketball coaches are similar to any previous coaches hes had during his basketball career:
You understand the instruction. Theyre great at giving detail in what they want. Its better for the players. Its a lot easier for us to understand. Its a lot easier for us to learn it on the fly.

On whether playing for USA Basketball was one of his goals when he started playing the game:
Of course, you see it. Of course being a basketball player, you want to be a part of it. Hopefully Im a member of this team. Thatd be a dream come true.

On how much attending last years USA Basketball National Team mini-camp prepared him for this years experience:
You kind of know what to expect. Youre on the other side now. Youre no longer on the Select Team. But at the same time, you kind of have an idea of what to expect.

On whether its an adjustment not being asked to go score a certain number of points or grab a certain number of rebounds:
Its an adjustment for everybody because you may play one way with your (NBA) team, but you can have five guys that are franchise guys on the court at one time (here). Its a lot different, but at the same time if we can have it click, the game would be so much easier.

On what he believes the coaches are looking for most during training camp:
Play hard. Thats the main thing. Play hard, give a lot of effort and just try to give in to the system. Learn the system.

On if he enjoys the competition process of trying out for a team:
Yeah. The competition is crazy. Id probably say the last time I was in a competition setting was in maybe summer league.

On whether its been difficult getting used to the international basketball they use for FIBA competitions:
Absolutely. The balls a lot slicker. When your hands are wet, it comes right out.

On if its harder to make shots with the ball:
Its an adjustment. But once you get used to the ball, the game will get easier. As of right now, weve got to get used to the ball.



Paul George

On whether hes grown closer to anybody since the start of training camp practice:
Yeah. I grew closer with a lot of these guy. A lot of these guys I consider brothers so its good to come out here, work hard and train together.

On if hes gotten closer with anybody specific:
John (Wall). John is always my guy. Its good to be here with DeMarcus (Cousin). I enjoy playing with Gordon (Hayward). Its my first time being alongside KD (Kevin Durant). Its gaining a little chemistry with all those guys.

On the similarities and differences between the USA Basketball coaches and other coaches hes had during his career:
Monty (Williams) is straight to the point. He lets you know whats going on. He gives you assignments. His mind for basketball is at an elite level as far as the coaches in this league. It varies. Each coach brings something that another coach doesnt bring. Not to say that that coach doesnt have it, but its just the way that he delivers that message. Its great to get coaching from all these guys in here.

On his relationship with National Team Coach Mike Krzyeswski:
Its growing. The more and more Im around him, the more I get a better understanding of what he wants from me here. And its the same thing for him. He gets to learn what kind of player I am and what I can do on the floor for him. So the more were around, I think our chemistry will grow.

On what the coaches are stressing most to the players:
Its defense and keeping that intensity. USA Basketball, we rely on our athleticism, our elite speed, our elite quickness to make plays and get out and play a fast-tempo.

On if he feels todays practice went better than Mondays:
I do. I think yesterday was kind of warming up to everybody and today we understand what were doing, we know our plays. So we got after it a little better and a little easier today.



Gordon Hayward

On how Day Two of practice compared to Day One:
I thought we were a little more sharp today, especially in the beginning. I think Day One is out of the way for us and were getting used to each other a little bit more. I was playing the four today, so that was a newer position for me, but something that I was excited to do. We could really space the floor when weve got four guys who can dribble and penetrate and shoot.

On if he enjoyed getting more instruction from the coaches today:
Yeah. We slowed it down a little bit. We ran some control, put in some more offensive stuff, so that was good. Anytime you do that and then you execute what they put, thats always fun to see. It was a good second day.

On what his most enjoyable part of the USA Basketball experience is:
I think just all the people, the competition and the coaches. The best players in the world are here all at the same time, so its the people here that make it.

On how the USA Basketball coaches compare and contrast with former coaches hes had during his basketball career:
Everybody has a different background, so everybody has some different terminology and theyve got different things that theyre experts per se on. So its cool to see that and hear what they have to say. Anytime you hear, even the same thing from a different person, its always good to have somebody else say it, reinforce it and say the same thing. Theres some legendary coaches here as well. The coaches are great and Ive actually got to meet with Coach (Brad) Stevens. Some of my former coaches are here anyways. I get to see them and talk to them and see how theyre doing.

On settling in to not being asked to score 20 points a night:
Its different when you play for Team USA because youre not the guy like you just pointed out. But everybody can score, and thats whats fun. You never have to take a bad shot. You can swing the ball and somebody will make something happen.

On if the adjustment mainly just centers around time:
I think it takes a little bit of time but for me, its no big deal because thats how I like to play anyway. I like being able to share the ball and cut and move and make sure youre always getting a good shot because were capable to.

On developing friendships with guys during training camp:
You do. Anytime you do this for two or three years in a row youre going to come back and see the same guys. You build a friendship, you build a little rivalry, (and) some competition when we go back to our respected (NBA) teams. You get to hang out with some of the guys now too.



Anthony Davis

On todays practice:

It went good. We did a lot better today. We got a lot of time moving up and down. We put in some sets and made sure that everyone was on the same page. Everybody played well. Got used to the ball, got used to the system and got used to the international rules and the way they play. We are coming together as a team and want to make sure we win gold.

On having a more meaningful role this year than in 2012:

I want to do whatever it takes to be on this team. Coach K wants me to be one of those guys for USA. Im here to do my job. Two years ago I didnt know much. I was new to it. I got a little experience playing last year in the scrimmages and in the Olympics in 2012. Im just ready to get out there and start competing again.

On the chances of making the 2016 team:

I dont want to jinx myself. I dont want to say yes and then in 2016 I dont get that call. Its definitely an honor to be asked multiple times to play for Team USA. Hopefully I keep getting invited and I get a chance to represent.

On the experience from 2012 Olympics:

It was definitely physical. The rules are a little different. Its a different style of basketball.

It feels like it was yesterday. I remember everything about that trip and about the experience. I was grabbing towels for guys after games, carrying guys bags, getting food, and the fact that I was a rookie at that time too. Now I kind of got that experience.



James Harden

On his improvement as a player:

Im always working on my game. Every aspect of my game and in the weight room. Its non-stop. Consistently every single day. I just try to be the best that I can be. Work ethic and dedication has definitely gotten me here.

On the development of youth basketball:

Work on fundamentals. The fundamentals are the base of your game. If you dont have fundamentals, its tough to make it in basketball. Thats your stomping grounds. Make sure you shoot the ball well, pass the ball well and dribble the ball well. The San Antonio Spurs for example. They dont really have flashy guys but all of them have great fundamentals and they won a championship.

On todays practice:

Today was a little bit better than yesterday. Yesterday we were kind of getting our feet wet and today we were a little better. We felt more comfortable out there. Guys were making plays. The more time we spend together, the better off we will be.

On being a leader on this team:

Two years ago in London I was just happy to be on the team. There were so many great guys on that team. Now Im one of the leaders. I just take the leadership role as far as working hard and just trying to be vocal.

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6. "Anthony Davis Returns to Men's National Team As One of the Leaders"
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Anthony Davis Returns to Men's National Team As One of the Leaders
Date: Jul 30, 2014
Las Vegas, Nevada

At 19 years old without a single professional game to his name, Anthony Davis had no idea what to expect when he made the USA Mens National Teams roster for the 2012 Olympics.

Davis traveled to London and was mostly seen but not heard. He appeared in seven of the eight games, averaging 3.7 points and 2.7 rebound per game, and afterward he was often in charge of carrying bags or going on food runs for the veteran players. What he got in return was a crash course education in international basketball and memories he still carries with him today.

It feels like it was yesterday, Davis said. I remember everything about that trip and about that experience.

Fast forward two years and Davis is now one of the veterans at training camp for the FIBA Basketball World Cup in Spain next month. As the team continues practices on UNLVs campus, Davis joins Kevin Durant and James Harden as the only players on the roster with an Olympic gold. In a very short time Davis has gone from a player just enjoying the ride to one of the organizations leaders.

When I talk to guys about different situations they definitely listen, Davis said.

In just more than two years, Davis has won a college national championship, become a No. 1 overall pick, won an Olympic gold medal and become an NBA All-Star. Its a rapid rise that Monty Williams, New Orleans Pelicans coach and a USA Basketball assistant, has witnessed first hand.

Understanding how to deal with success is tough and hes done a really good job, Williams said. Hes getting more and more experience, and thats stuff I cant teach him.

Training camp started with 19 players on the 2014 USA National Team roster. While none are technically guaranteed one of the 12 final spots, there are guys like Durant who know theyre not going anywhere. Thanks to a little help from the guys who dropped out of consideration before camp, Davis appears to be in that group.

We are going to have to have active bigs, coach Mike Krzyzewski said Monday. Our main guy is Anthony Davis and we will see who else fits in.

Even with quotes like that and the private conversations hes had with Krzyzewski and managing director Jerry Colangelo, Davis said he didnt want to jinx himself by looking past camp.

Its definitely an honor to get picked multiple times to play for the USA, he said. Hopefully I keep getting invited.

Thats not something Davis likely has to worry about, especially if he continues to develop. After practice on Tuesday, Davis and Williams spent some extra time working on one-on-one dribbling moves facing the basket. Adding those kinds of skills and jump shots to his arsenal would be the next major development in Davis game, and with his head coach on the USA Basketball staff theres no time like the present to work on the future.

As the camp progresses youll see him blossom more and more as he gets more comfortable, Williams said.

Thats great news for Colangelo and the coaching staff. Davis only made the 2012 Olympics roster after an injury to Blake Griffin, but because of that experience and last years USA mini-camp hes way ahead of schedule and figures to be key piece of the organization from this point forward.

Coach K wants me to be one those guys for USA, Davis said. Im just trying to do my job.

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10. "Derrick Rose is the "most impressive guy" at World Cup tryouts(swipe)"
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Derrick Rose draws more praise
Updated: July 30, 2014, 12:20 PM ET
By Nick Friedell | ESPNChicago.com

Derrick Rose Back On Court For Team USA

LAS VEGAS -- Chicago Bulls point guard Derrick Rose continued to open eyes Tuesday in Team USA's training camp as he makes his way back from the torn meniscus in his right knee that cost him all but 10 games of the past season.

Rose, who has played in just 49 games over the past three seasons because of various injuries, including two severe knee injuries, earned praise from all corners of the Mendenhall Center on UNLV's campus.

"That's my biggest surprise coming in here," Syracuse coach and Team USA assistant Jim Boeheim told ESPNChicago.com, in reference to Rose's performance. "The one thing I was worried about is whether he would be able to step in after so much time . He looks, to me, as good as when we had him in the world championship in '10, when he was at full strength coming an MVP year. He looks very, very good. Obviously, he gets in some games, it will be a little different, but it's not like he hasn't had success in games. He had a lot of success.

"He's been the most impressive guy here."

In just two days, Rose seems to have reminded the basketball world just how talented he can be when he's healthy.

Team USA coach Mike Krzyzewski echoed Boeheim's praise.

"He was phenomenal , and he was today, too," Krzyzewski said. "He hasn't held anything back. The neat thing about today was we went hard and we went hard today, and he hasn't been in this environment, and he was as good or better today."

The thing that has impressed Krzyzewski most is the way Rose has attacked the competition. The former MVP is trying to be one of the 12 players who will make up Team USA at the FIBA Basketball World Cup in late August in Spain.

"He's gone after people," Krzyzewski said. " ain't happening. He's going after everybody, and he's really going hard. His movement on defense has been spectacular. When we started practice , what he did defensively -- whoa. It picked everybody up. You don't play that type of defense in the NBA because you have to play 40 minutes and 100 games, but here if you play 20 minutes, that's a lot, but you don't have to play consecutively, so you can go to an extreme -- that's what he's doing. I think he's shown he has great balance and strength. He's stronger, and he has better balance, and he's shooting the ball great. I think he's been absolutely terrific these first two days."

For his part, Rose maintains he isn't surprised by his performance. He points to the work he has put into his rehab over the past eight months as the reason he is playing so well early on.

"I can be more aggressive, but I'm picking and choosing just trying to see what the game needs," he said. "Just trying to play my type of game. I think when I first came in the league people were wondering if I could score, but on my team, I have to score. Here I can be really a point guard and really get guys in a groove and really get them in a rhythm to shoot the ball. So my job is to play defense, move the ball up the court and get guys open and shoot open shots."

Rose's teammates can see his game is starting to return as well. Team USA counterpart Kevin Durant believes Rose is a better player than he was during the 2010 world championships, when the pair helped the team win a gold medal.

"He's definitely grown since then," Durant said. " has blossomed into a superstar, MVP of course after that. He's just had a few setbacks with some injuries, but he seems like he's the same player. But his confidence -- that's what it's about in this league. You experience things, you go through them, you gain confidence, and that's what all these guys here have gotten."

Boeheim said people have to be a little surprised at how well Rose has played to start camp.

"They know Derrick's talent," Boeheim said. "You have to be a little surprised at seeing what he's doing. He's looked great. And I'm happy for him because my experience with him in '10 was great and he's just a great kid. A great kid to coach being part of the world championship team. I'm happy to see a kid come back. All the rehab, all the work -- people don't realize how hard that is. That's not easy. And to see Derrick Rose back, I think it's a great thing, and it will be great for Chicago."

Rose is trying to take all the extra attention in stride. He knows the eyes of the basketball world are focused on him this week, but he doesn't seem too concerned. He joked that the biggest key from Monday to Tuesday was that he had no pain, just the regular soreness that comes for every basketball player after participating in five-on-five full-court scrimmages.

"Waking up not sore, man," he said with a smile. "Waking up kinda sore. I feel like a basketball player now, man. I'm happy to be here and happy to be getting attention, but at the same time, I know that I have a long journey and just trying to take it one day at a time."

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29. "is your stance on him playing changing or nah?"
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can't remember where we left off in the last post.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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34. "No, If I'm Jerry Reinsdorf I still don't want him out there."
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Day 3 Roundup: Pleased With Progress
Author: Taylor Bern Date: Jul 30, 2014
Las Vegas, Nevada

The play developed so beautifully and quickly built so much anticipation in the gym that the scorekeeper put two points on the board while Kevin Durants alley-oop pass attempt was still sailing towards Anthony Davis.

Alas, this is practice and not everything goes to plan. Davis finish would have been a thunderous one-hand slam but he couldnt control the ball and the points were erased from the scoreboard at the Mendenhall Center on UNLVs campus.

Still, that was one of the first plays of Wednesdays scrimmage, which wrapped day three of the USA Mens National Teams training camp. The sets and instruction coach Mike Krzyzewski and his staff have been doling out are starting to take hold and the 19 players competing for 12 spots are starting to resemble something closer to a team than a collection of talent.

Its about a process and building each day and getting better, said Stephen Curry, who joined Durant and fellow guard Derrick Rose on the 2010 World Championship gold-medal team.

Its not like every player has been playing consistently their best, but across the board the coaches are happy with the progress. And considering the World Cup in Spain doesnt start for another month, the organization leaders know theres time for everything to fully round into form.

Very pleased with the intensity level and the effort has been great, said managing director Jerry Colangelo. Weve had players up-and-down like yo-yos during the three days but you expect that.

After each practice, Colangelo said, he and the staff gather to evaluate that days workout and discuss any changes to their expectations or evaluations of individual players.

I can promise you that each day theres a change, Colangelo said.

Sometimes thats good news for a player and sometimes its not, but its all a part of the evaluation process as USA Basketball works towards finding its best group of 12. That doesnt mean the best 12 players, either. Colangelo again emphasized that theyre trying to put together a team, not an all-star team, and the players know that.

Thats why Durant has talked about getting everyone to buy in defensively, and why after Wednesdays practice Rose said hes working to learn the other players tendencies and where shooters want the ball. Those are the things that both help the players make the roster and that will help that roster during competition in Spain.

And while thats the ultimate goal, the players are enjoying this day-to-day process as well. Guys like guard Kyrie Irving have an almost omnipresent smile and theyre clearly enjoying being together.

Its a pleasure to come out here and compete at the highest level, Irving said.



WILDCAT COUNTRY

Before he got down to the business of coaching at the USA Basketball Fantasy Camp, Kentucky coach John Calipari had some catching up to do.

If there was still any question that Caliparis players succeed at the next level, the answer is on the National Team roster. Four of his former players Memphis Rose and Kentuckys Davis, DeMarcus Cousins and John Wall are competing for spots on the roster. Davis and Rose already have gold medals from the Olympics and World Championship, respectively.

Calipari spent time talking to all four of them at various points after Wednesdays practice. Calipari said it was clear that Davis and Rose benefitted from the USA Basketball experiences, and now hes hoping for the same from Cousins and Wall.

Being a part of this absolutely helped them do what theyre trying to do with their careers, he said.



ONE-ON-ONE-ON-ONE

People would line up around the corner for tickets to the series of post-practice one-on-one games that took place on one court at the Mendenhall Center.

Durant, Paul George and James Harden took turns rotating in for one possession at a time. A made basket meant you kept the ball and the next person jumped in for their turn on defense. A defensive stop meant you took over on offense.

The assembled media, coaches and even several other USA Basketball players crowded around for a good view. While its impossible to say which of the three technically won, it was even more difficult to walk away and come up with a player who could prevent any of these guys from taking gold.

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35. "Quotes From Day 3 Of Men's National Team Training Camp"
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Quotes From Day 3 Of Men's National Team Training Camp
Date: Jul 30, 2014

Kyrie Irving:

On Lebron James coming to Cleveland:

I feel great about it. The excitement has kind of died down because Im getting asked this question a whole bunch. I cant smile anymore when I say Im pretty happy. Im ecstatic just to be playing with him. Like I said, hes the greatest player coming back home. I feel like we are going in the right direction.

On Coach Ks comments about Kyrie destined to be here at camp:

Its amazing. Just to hear that from coach after playing for such a short time for him (at Duke). Obviously we stayed in contact over the last three years since I left. I look up to him and hes like a mentor to me. I have tremendous amount of respect for the things that he does; not only for USA Basketball but as a man and what he has accomplished. I am so proud of him. Its a great feeling hearing what a great coach said about you.

On his growth as a player since 2012:

Its different because Im on the National Team roster now. Its a great honor and a great pleasure to be a part of something bigger than myself.

On practice so far:

Its been a tough three days but I am really excited. The guys are just trying to figure out their roles. Guys are not necessarily playing tentatively but I think guys can give a little bit more including myself. But that will come as we get to know each other more.

Damian Lillard:

On his role:

Just giving me a chance to be a part of this team I know Im going to have to be able to defend. Im not going to be out there for eight minutes straight. It will be for four maybe five minutes. I have to be able to leave it all out there whether thats picking guys up full court and wearing them out or trying to cause turnovers. Ive just been trying to let them (coaches) see what I can do to help this team.

On what he has been most happy with at camp:

How hard I play. I know we are learning defensive schemes and offensively shots wont always fall. But Ive been playing hard defense. One thing I know that I can hang my hat on is that Ive been defending. Ive been playing hard. Im playing team basketball and doing whats asked of me. I think the biggest thing is not being able to do everything perfect but still being able to do what they ask of me.

On chemistry with other players:

Its kind of unspoken. You dont go out and try to play to fit somebody. Like Kyle Korver. He runs the floor because hes trying to find a space on the floor to get his shot and I see that. So I like playing with people who find a spot and I can get them a shot. Its just natural. Same with DeMar DeRozan. I know what he likes to do.



Klay Thompson:

On how he feels after three days of camp:

I think its gone well. Its real intense at these practices. Ive been fortunate enough to be a part of USA basketball for the last three years. I feel like Ive gotten better from the experience. Im excited for Friday night. Its been a blast.

On what it would mean to make the final roster:

It would be a dream come true anytime you can represent your country. It would be something that I can cross off my bucket list.

On four Golden State Warriors in camp:

It just shows the depth that weve got. Two other guys (David Lee and Andre Iguodala) were invited but they were hurt so they couldnt play. It shows that we are deep and we have talent. If we stick together and play as a team, we will be alright.





Mike Krzyzewski:

On the third day of practice:


I think we had another strong day. The attitudes have been unbelievable and the work ethics. We have actually gotten more in, in the first three days of camp than we have in the previous three camps. I think (USA assistant coaches) Monty (Williams) and Tom (Thibodeau) are terrific. Its worked out well. Tomorrow is a non-contact day, so we dont get good ol injuries and whatever and that theyre prepared for Friday. You get another chance on Friday to see, with the lights on what goes on.

On the teams defensive effort:


The defensive effort has been outstanding. We have great quickness, lateral quickness. And although we dont have the bulk, we have outstanding athleticism and quickness and effort. Just in a couple days, defensively, theyve embraced it. When you coordinate that and play as one, thats when well have a chance to be really good and weve seen signs of that happening.

On Paul George and Kevin Durant playing on the same team during practice:


Part of it is we know that those guys are going to be on the team. Were not going to rev it out of a hat too quick or anything. Its about Chemistry and we can see different groups with them. The thing though that we havent been able to do is take a look at Paul at the four, which he can also be at. We wanted that with different guard tandems, like with (James) Harden and (Derrick) Rose, Irving and Curry and Damian Lillard. So you get them all a chance to play with those two guys and with Anthony (Davis).

On the importance of last years mini-camp:


Yeah. I think the big thing is their familiarity with me and this coaching staff. Weve had guys who have played for me. That helps. They know what to expect. Weve obviously had good stuff happen. With the guys in the mini-camp, we spent a lot of time trying to get to know them. It lends toward familiarity and with familiarity, it means that you can hit the ground running a little bit better.

On how much last years time was worth:


I dont know what it equates to, but its a huge help. And also just the continuity of having all the same USA Basketball people. Jim (Boeheim) and I being here for the last nine years. But also last year, when we had the mini-camp, I wanted for Tom (Thibodeau) and Monty (Williams) to have an active role. So we got to know one another. As a coaching staff, we hit the ground running and weve obviously had some teleconferences before we ever got here. But its a big summer. It provides a foundation of relationships and knowing one another thats invaluable.

On the teams bigs:


First of all, Anthony (Davis) plays a lot of the four so his extra bulk in that is good. We think hes one of the top players in the league and we need for him to be that five that nobody has. Everyone talks about things that we dont have, well they dont have him and how comfortable can we make him? Who will be the backups? What kind of backups? Do you go to a different style of play when someone else goes in, or do you continue to do it the style that you have with Anthony in there with the guys backing up. So the big guys have given good efforts. (Andre) Drummond, (DeMarcus) Cousins, even like (Kenneth) Faried and then (Mason) Plumlee, we didnt expect that. Hes going to be in the scrimmage on Friday, so well take a look at that. Again, you make the best of what you have. What we have is good. Itd be different if (Blake) Griffin and (Kevin) Love were here, but theyre not here. So it doesnt mean its bad though. Were still pretty confident about what we can do.

Paul Millsap:

On getting after it defensively at practice today:


It was great. The whole practice pretty much was about defense and defense intensity. I think the intensity was definitely there. The guys were really out there competing on the defensive end, so when youre on the floor, thats what needs to happen.

On how the intensity at todays practice compared to an Atlanta Hawks practice:


Its a little bit more intense (here). Youve got some of the best players in the world, so things are going to be a lot more intense. Its going to be a little bit better. But we do similar things (in Atlanta). We havent had a practice in Atlanta where we went 40 (minutes) to an hour long on defense. It was a little different in that aspect.

On if he enjoys being that locked in defensively:


As I got older, I realized defense wins championships. Your defense has got to be top-notch. So you learn and you grow to love it. For me, I love being on the defensive end. I love getting stops.

On the teams defensive potential:


Like I said, this is some of the best players in the world. On their respected (NBA) teams, you know, theyre not really asked to play defense like that. But when they come to Team USA, its a little bit different. Theyre asked to play defense and guys are actually taking on the challenge to play defense.

On the importance of being vocal on the defensive side of the ball:


Being a good defensive team, it starts with communication. Were smart players and we understand that. So we know we have to go out there and communicate with each other to be a good defensive team.

On if hes learning anything since training camp began:


Yes. Me personally, Im a sponge. So Im going to take what I learn here and try to take that back to Atlanta and try to help our team.

On if hes grown closer to any players since the start of camp:


Oh yeah. Throughout the course of the season, you dont have the opportunity to spend time with these guys, especially since youre competing against them. You have a different outlook on them during the season. But when you come here, and theyre actually your teammates for a week or for however long its going to be, you look at it in a different perspective. So Ive had the opportunity to get to know a few of them, and hopefully Ill get the opportunity to know a lot more.

On if playing for the USA was always a dream for him when he started playing basketball:


I think its everybodys dream. I think thats the motive. If you can get to this point, to put on a Team USA jersey for your country, that means that youre elite and thats what I take from it. I take it as an opportunity to go out there and help my country in a different way and thats through winning a (FIBA Basketball) World Cup for us.

On his individual play:


Individually, I feel like Ive been playing pretty well. You know I havent been able to showcase pretty much probably what they brought me out here to do, and thats shoot the 3-point shot. But they know I can do that. Its just everything else. I think Im more focused on playing defense and helping on the defensive end than anything else right now.

Bradley Beal:

On having a practice focused primarily on defense:


You have to be able to accept that because on this team everybody can score the ball but not everybody can defend. I think thats probably what coach was trying to show and see in these guys and I think everybody did a great job picking up that intensity and really focusing in. Some drills we were dead tired, but I think we did a great job locking in and really getting stops when we needed to. Its just going to continue to be that way because these international teams are very tough to beat, man. They can score the ball just like we can, so weve got to be able to get stops and try to win games.

On hoping to bring the same type of defensive energy each day moving forward:


Most definitely because on any given night any player can get hot on another team. You have to be able to go out there and have the confidence and the belief that your defense is always going to come first. Your offense is always going to be there regardless of what happens. Sometimes you cant control what happens on offense, but you can control how you defend your guy. So I think as long as we just defend the way we know were capable of doing, continuing to stay intense and confident, I think well be fine.

On the importance of communication on defense:


I think communication is key for any defense because you have to be able to talk and point and know where your man is and know where your teammates man is. If a mishap happens, you have to be able to have your teammates back at all times and let him know that your man is cutting, or your man is getting open, or a screen is coming. So being able to communicate is very important, and I think everybody on this team is doing a great job of that.

On if the teams defensive potential is off the charts:


It definitely is because one thing, I feel short as I dont know what in this gym and all these guys are 6-7 and above. So everybody is long and athletic. I think we can use that to our benefit because when we get our arms out and our hands up and were talking, were going to be pretty tough to beat on the defensive end because we have guys who can block shots, who can get deflections, can get steals and can get in the passing lanes like that. Its definitely going to be to our benefit.

On whether he learned anything from being injured and not being able to participate during last years mini-camp:


I think the biggest thing is that you dont have to carry such a large load on your shoulders. Just the fact that the guy right next to you is just as good as you are, if not better. So you have to be able to have that mentality, that its a huge sacrifice more than anything, because everybody can do pretty much the same thing. But are you wiling to give up something for the benefit of the team?

On if giving up something for the benefit of the team is a tough challenge to get used to:


I think the good players are able to do that. As long as youre able to have that confidence in knowing that, OK I can still impact the game in other ways than scoring the ball then youre going to be pretty good. And regardless, the offense will always come to you no matter what because everybody on this team is good and great and have All-Star capabilities. But I think as long as we just have that sacrifice and that passion and energy to be able to believe that, I can give up something for the benefit of the team, itll definitely help the team.

On how much hes grown as a player and as a person from his experiences with USA Basketball:


Its been terrific, man. I have a huge journey that Im definitely proud of, I must say. It started when I was 15 and playing with the USA team and winning two gold medals on the 16 and 17 year-old teams. And now to be a part of the National Team, its like a dream come true. It just shows that the hard work paid off. And regardless, if I make this team or not, Im still going to be happy in the fact that I was able to be a part of this. Because theres a ton of NBA players, a ton of college kids who have the capabilities of being on this team and Im fortunate to be one of them to be a part of the National Team.

On the toughest adjustment in the international style of play:


I think the biggest difference is theres no defensive three seconds. Its very physical and the 3-point line is shorter. Just in terms of knowing that you could be in help-side and not have to clear the lane. You can stand there as long as you want. And on top of that, you can knock a ball off a rim until it hits the rim.

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36. "USA Roster Overflowing With Gifted Guards"
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USA Roster Overflowing With Gifted Guards
Author: Taylor Bern Date: Jul 31, 2014
Las Vegas, Nevada

If you believe the talk, USA Basketball coach Mike Krzyzewski could see the future for Kyrie Irving since the guard was a freshman for Krzyzewski at Duke during the 2010-11 season.

He was destined to be a great player, Krzyzewski said this week. He has not only ability but he has character and great intelligence.

What Krzyzewski, the Mens National Team coach since 2006, couldnt see is how competitive the backcourt would be for this years team that will compete at the FIBA Basketball World Cup in Spain. Everyone from managing director Jerry Colangelo on down agrees that guard is this teams greatest strength.

What we have to determine at some point is how many point guards can you carry, Colangelo said.

Krzyzewski, who has already called the position the toughest call that the coaching staff will have to make, doesnt like to call them point guards. The group is too talented, too multi-dimensional to limit them to just the point position. And by the sounds of it, leaving any of them off the 12-man roster will be like leaving behind an argyle sweater on a winter vacation to the Antarctic.

Coach K never really gives those (roster) hints away, said Stephen Curry, because Im not sure even he knows.

Curry won gold at the 2010 World Championships, as did Derrick Rose. Irving was on the 2012 Select Team and has a history with Krzyzewski. James Harden, a gold medalist at the 2012 Olympics, figures to have an advantage, but theres also John Wall and Damian Lillard vying for spots.

Its easily the most competitive group out on the practice court in the Mendenhall Center on UNLVs campus. Krzyzewski put Kevin Durant and Paul George on the same team during Wednesdays scrimmage not so much to see what they could do together but to see how the guards coexist with guys who are practically guaranteed roster spots.

We wanted that with different guard tandems, like with Harden and Rose, Irving and Curry and Damian Lillard, Krzyzewski said. So you get them all a chance to play with those two guys and with Anthony (Davis).

The guards all seem to understand the situation and are doing whatever the coaches ask. Curry has developed immensely since that 2010 championship in Istanbul, Turkey, which he called the highlight of his career, but he knows that his added skills as a player might still need to be adapted to this teams needs.

Theres only one basketball, Curry said. We have to be versatile and have to be able to adapt.

Even guys like Wall and Lillard, who have limited USA Basketball experience, have bought in completely in hopes of sticking around long enough to represent their country in international competition.

I have to be able to leave it all out there whether thats picking guys up full court and wearing them out or trying to cause turnovers, Lillard said. Ive just been trying to let (the coaches) see what I can do to help this team.

Although hes coming off a knee injury, Rose has been one of the most impressive guards in training camp. Like the other players hes talking about defense and doing what the coaches ask, but Rose is also focused on the smaller details such as learning where the teams shooters like to get the ball and the best ways to set up his post players for success.

As a point guard Ive got to read all that, Rose said.

Krzyzewski and Colangelo know it wont be an easy decision at guard. Some extremely talented players won't be back when the team reassembles August 13 in Chicago, and that might include players with an impressive track record in the organization or even with Krzyzewski himself.

For his part, Irving carries a quiet confidence. Its been an exciting offseason for the Cleveland Cavaliers guard one that he hopes includes an international business trip but he also recognizes that everyone in camp, even those hes competing against, want the same thing.

We all come together for one goal, Irving said, and thats gold.

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38. "imagine Ky did 2 yrs college, does he know its not Olympics this summer?"
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>�We all come together for one goal,� Irving said, �and that�s
>gold.�

But really, with vision like his, no wonder he doesn't know what trophy they'll be playing for in Spain

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39. "they get gold medals, as well as a trophy, which kyrie would know"
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because he's used to international comp, having been involved with USA basketball since he was 16 and being around Coach K during summers in Durham...because he still takes classes, helping Duke keep that sterling grad rate.

oh.

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41. "... this isn't a serious reply, right?"
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The winners get gold medals. Always have.

... are YOU familiar with which competition this is? lol

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42. "I actually looked it up before posting, they get the Naismith Trophy"
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http://www.fiba.com/basketballworldcup/2014/naismith-trophy

There's even a dumb description about the German that made it and how a Nile trip inspired it or something.

I also googled some images of the 2010 champs, and yes they did have medals hanging around their necks as they lifted the Naismith Trophy, soooo ... the real question is do second get "silvers" or is there just one trophy? Either way, I assumed the FIBA World Cup was for a trophy, googled it, and it is, so I went with it. The main thing we can all learn here is the sooner FIBA can wrench the status of "marquee international tournament" away from the IOC, the better.

edit: oh yeah, I'm dumb, you get silver and bronze dating back to the 1960s, although the tournament's history is a bit interesting to read on the wiki. Why in the world couldn't the USA use pro players until 1994? Amateurism is such a dumb old concept...

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45. "medals + if he can own this team he can own this generation of pgs"
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get that inside track for rio + all he'd need to do to solidify it in the nba would basically be to get bron in his corner.

  

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43. "so the locks so far..."
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i would say

rose
durant
davis
harden
curry
george

who are we thinking is the the final six?

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44. "RE: so the locks so far..."
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>i would say
>
>rose
>durant
>davis
>harden
>curry
>george
>
>who are we thinking is the the final six?

RIGHT TODAY I'll say:

Kyrie
Klay
Parsons
Faried
Cuz
Millsap

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46. "that's about right..."
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but I think korver's got to be there.

dude's an elite elite ELITE shooter. he's prolly the best jump shooter on the planet right now. I want to say he shot 70% on catch and shoot jumpers last year. which is just retarded.

and in international ball, they're gonna be facing 2-3 zones 90% of the time? sheeit.

it's not a fucking all star game, they gotta put a real team together.






>RIGHT TODAY I'll say:
>
>Kyrie
>Klay
>Parsons
>Faried
>Cuz
>Millsap
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62. "Lol, people do this every year crying about "WE NEED SHOOTERS!"..."
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All these guys are shooters with the international 3, on a team with KD, Curry, Harden and others if we have to rely on Kyle Korver to bail us out we're in trouble.

In the past we've had "designated shooter" types like Mike Miller and Mike Redd and they barely played and when they did get in the game they were so cold that the shot worse than the other guys because the don't have a chance to get into a rhythm.

Parsons will make it before Korver because Parsons is a more versatile player.

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49. "i can't see both faried and millsap making it "
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and definitely not parsons, faried, and millsap. especially because durant is going to get most of the pf minutes and even a davis/cous lineup is possible.

international squads are trending lot bigger than what we've seen in the past. but unless ibaka is healed and ready to ball out most of the really dangerous guys are well past or not into their primes. i'd be a little concerned about the young big boys from the balkans and giannis in a few years too but i don't think they're gonna want to test our size in 2014.

it also helps that all the really good bigs are on the complete opposite side of the bracket. nobody in C or D really has two legit bigs and the best we're gonna see until the medal games are asik, d-mo, and baynes.

  

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58. "add Korver and Drummond, drop Faried and Millsap"
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47. "Windhorst says Plumlee over Big Cuz lol"
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51. "If they want to play uptempo, Plumlee makes more sense."
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If there's one thing Plumlee does at an elite level, it's the transition game. He runs and jumps better than almost any other big in the NBA. (It's all the other stuff he still needs to work on, lol.)

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52. "Boogie would double chokeslam Coach K & Jerry"
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53. "how mad would you be if kyrie and plumlee make it over wall and cousins"
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is it too late for his brother to come in and take brow's spot?

(in all seriousness, i respect his game but it would be a travesty if mason passed drummond, let alone d.m.c. in this shit. we already got many of the best bigs passing on this tournament, we can't afford to push one of the best centers in the game off the roster and poison the process for the next round)

  

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55. "Kyrie is expected. Boogie would make me heated. "
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Plumlee is not even NBA good

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56. "Might as well get ready, writing is on the wall"
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Coach K on DeMarcus Cousins from Thursday:
In DeMarcus case, the style we play lends itself to what Anthony , or even what Plumlee does and a little bit of Drummond. DeMarcus game is different, so he an adjustment to make and hes trying to make it. Also, as he grows, we have to look and see if there is something we can do to bring more out of his game. Were going to take a good look at our bigs."

Hes been attentive and tried diving on the floor for loose balls. They all have to adapt and its a different way of playing defense how do you play defense with all these athletes, and how do you help out? We have to see in games these exhibition games how that will wash out. We havent made a decision and we wont for a while, but we will definitely take a long look at the bigs.

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63. "lol @ Plumlee not being "NBA good.""
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72. "Among NBA players he's considered good? "
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76. "In terms of talent? Absolutely."
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81. "LMAO....No, he's not. It's cuz you're a Duke fan. "
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NO....NBA fan would say he's "good" as of 8/1/2014.

Talent? In the future? Maybe one day? Who knows.

If you throw around the term "good" with Plumlee, than 60-50% of the league is good.

Is John Henson good?

Is Andray Blatche good?

Is Brandan Wright good?

Is Kris Humphries good?

No, no, no, no.

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84. "Did anyone here say he's an All-Star?"
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No. As of today, he's best in transition, because he runs and jumps better than the majority of guys his size in the NBA. He doesn't force anything, he sets good screens, works hard consistently on defense, and plays good smart team basketball.

And when you combine those attributes with his athleticism and work ethic... it's obvious why he'd be considered for a relief role playing a few minutes of energy ball per game internationally. They don't want a guy who wants to come in and score as the twelfth man in the rotation-- they want guys who are fine just running, working hard, setting screens, and giving it to the shooters.

But I'm not sure why I'm even trying to explain this calmly and logically. Your mind is made up.

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87. "No, but YOU had a problem with me saying h'es not NBA good."
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And he's not.

You could've agreed and said, "But he jumps good and run good."

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90. "I think his talent is NBA good, unquestionably. He's just a rookie."
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But yes, there are less talented players than him who have more experience who are as a result better all-around players today.

I think Plumlee with more experience will become a more stringently-defined "NBA good" player.

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100. "80% of the NBA has talent to be good. So what?"
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He's not NBA good.
Until then what you're saying you basically need an intro from....
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97. "how many Suns game u watch dude?"
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he was the ONLY CENTER ON THE DAMN SUNS. and played good for us.

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98. "He means Mason, not Miles."
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Though I'm betting he'd say Miles isn't NBA good either.

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99. "lol"
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102. "Because I don't throw around the word "good". "
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>Though I'm betting he'd say Miles isn't NBA good either.

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64. "the basketball reasons for taking plumlee > cuz make sense"
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but i'd rather see cuz on team usa.

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65. "offensive post play is usually de-emphasized in FIBA because the refs..."
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allow them to play so physical down there and NBA guys don't get calls they're used to getting and get frustrated like Tim Duncan in 2004.

So Coach K's approach has always pretty much been to play SF's as a "stretch 4" and just have a rim protector at the 5.

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70. "Basketball logic not allowed in this discussion."
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75. "And you would be incorrect in assuming Plumlee is better defensively..."
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than Boogie.

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80. "its not really about who's a better basketball player more more who's a...."
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better fit as a role player on a team already loaded with stars and scorers.

Who would be content with not getting shots but just setting screens and playing defense.

Who would be glad to just be on the team and sit on the bench and be a cheerleader and not grumble about not getting PT.

Coach K pretty much already knows who his starters are going to be, when it comes to filling out the bench the choices are not always about who's the best player but who he thinks is best suited for a bench role.

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83. "Basing on everything Demarcus has done and already proven that..."
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he's willing to do to be a part of the team he has already shown he's willing to sacrifice for the team.

And the fact he does EVERYTHING on the basketball court better than Plumlee, he's a better fit.

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86. "I haven't been at any of the practices and I'm not picking the team but...."
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as some has paid close attention to how Coach K and Coleangelo have put together teams since they've been running it I'm just offering my opinion.

Might Coach K be biased towards his guy? Probably so.

But lets not pretend like Cousins is a choirboy and his own NBA team hasn't tried to get rid of on multiple occasions despite his talent.

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89. "For the most part, Team USA has picked the most skilled..."
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versatile players. You can point out the instances to contrary.

Demarcus is the best big in Camp.

His behavior? If he hasn't done anything since you put him on the team. Then why ask him to the team.

And when has he been mentioned in trade rumors? If they wanted to dump him, they would have.

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92. "RE: For the most part, Team USA has picked the most skilled..."
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>versatile players. You can point out the instances to
>contrary.

Everybody is not going to get to play so on almost every year there are guys are picked not because they are the best players available but simply because they'll be good soldiers be content just to be on the team and be good practice guys and not cause trouble.

In 2012 it was Igoudala and Davis.

In 2008 it was Boozer, Tayshaun and Redd.

I remember Gilbert Arenas being cut when he was still in his prime because he wasn't a good fit with the team.

>Demarcus is the best big in Camp.

that's you're opinion, I haven't been there but I haven't heard anybody who has say that.

>His behavior? If he hasn't done anything since you put him on
>the team. Then why ask him to the team.

They asked him to tryout for the team. With the limited amount of talented bigs available inviting him was basically due diligence.

>And when has he been mentioned in trade rumors? If they wanted
>to dump him, they would have.

Because its easier to fire a coach than get back equal value for a player like Cousins.

The FACT that he's had 3 coaches in 4 years and the FACT that despite being one of the most talented young big men in the NBA in 4 seasons his teams have never won more than 28 games in a season is telling.

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101. "RE: For the most part, Team USA has picked the most skilled..."
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>>versatile players. You can point out the instances to
>>contrary.
>
>Everybody is not going to get to play so on almost every year
>there are guys are picked not because they are the best
>players available but simply because they'll be good soldiers
>be content just to be on the team and be good practice guys
>and not cause trouble.

No really?

>In 2012 it was Igoudala and Davis.

They were both versatile and skilled.

>In 2008 it was Boozer, Tayshaun and Redd.

All 3 are versatile and/or skilled.


>I remember Gilbert Arenas being cut when he was still in his
>prime because he wasn't a good fit with the team.

While he was good, he was only scoring. And not versatile.


>>Demarcus is the best big in Camp.
>
>that's you're opinion, I haven't been there but I haven't
>heard anybody who has say that.

Take all of the Centers there. Not including Anthony Davis, and he's the best.


>>His behavior? If he hasn't done anything since you put him
>on
>>the team. Then why ask him to the team.
>
>They asked him to tryout for the team. With the limited amount
>of talented bigs available inviting him was basically due
>diligence.


They asked him before Love, Griffin, Aldridge dropped out.


>>And when has he been mentioned in trade rumors? If they
>wanted
>>to dump him, they would have.
>
>Because its easier to fire a coach than get back equal value
>for a player like Cousins.

No, they've could've and were offered a lot for him. And they signed him to a long term deal.


>The FACT that he's had 3 coaches in 4 years and the FACT that
>despite being one of the most talented young big men in the
>NBA in 4 seasons his teams have never won more than 28 games
>in a season is telling.
>

Is it telling on him or the organization? Because there a lot of players in the camp who've won less.


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Plumlee Beats Out Cousins

Patrick wrote this 4 hours ago 7 comments
Brian Windhorst reported that Mason Plumlee is more likely than DeMarcus Cousins to make the Team USA roster:


And twitter exploded. How could this be? Coach K favoring the Duke alumnus? Actually, the decision makes perfect sense to me, because Plumlee had a surprisingly great rookie season, and DeMarcus Cousins' game, while improved, is flawed, and those flaws are particularly bad for the international game.

Raw Stats
Shooting Efficiency
POS Min WP48 PoP48 Wins PTS DRB ORB REB AST TO BLK STL PF
Cousins C 2298 .157 1.8 7.5 33.7 12.8 4.6 17.4 4.3 5.2 1.9 2.3 5.6
Plumlee C 1275 .233 4.2 6.2 19.6 7.9 3.7 11.6 2.3 2.9 2.1 1.8 6.4
Average C C 1421 .099 0.0 2.9 19.1 9.5 4.4 13.8 2.5 2.7 2.0 1.2 5.1
Raw Stats
Shooting Efficiency
FG% 2FG% 3FG% FT% eFG% TS% FGA 3FGA PPS FTA
Cousins 49.6% 49.9% 0.0% 72.6% 49.6% 55.5% 24.9 0.1 1.36 12.4
Plumlee 65.9% 66.6% 0.0% 62.6% 65.9% 67.0% 11.4 0.1 1.72 7.3
Average C 51.0% 52.0% 31.8% 67.5% 51.8% 55.1% 15.0 0.7 1.27 5.1
When we compare the two players, we see that Cousins is a much better rebounder, but several important things strike out:

Plumlee doesn't shoot very much, which means his 7.3 free throws per 48 is amazing. He clearly has a knack for getting to the line.
Plumlee shoots an amazing percentage because he's always shooting in the paint. He had 259 shots in the restricted area; most of the players above him played starters' minutes.
Cousins turns the ball over a truckload! This leads me to question whether his higher assist rate really means he is a better passer.
Cousins's shooting efficiency, despite his very high number of shots, is only about average. This is mostly because he takes a huge amount of 15-19 footers, and lots of 20-24 footers (but no threes). Last year, he took 358 mid-range shots, converting only 40% of them. Even worse, he took 282 shots in the paint but outside the restricted area (i.e. not layups and dunks), and converted only 36%. Among centers, only Al Jefferson took more, but Big Al converted 51% on those shots.
In essense, Cousins is a very gifted rebounder and an able defender, but has the kind of shot selection that would make Nick Young proud. He loves to shoot (he was 6th in the NBA in shots per 48 minutes), but he is not a good shooter.

This type of game is a horrible fit in international ball. There are two primary reasons this is the case:

The 3-point line is about 18 inches closer in the NBA. This makes the 3-pointer a better shot than in the NBA, because those 18 inches add a few percentage points. When the shot is worth three points, the impact of those added percentage points on a shot's expected value is large. This means that if a midrange shot is the worst option in the NBA (teams prefer threes and layups), this is magnified in FIBA ball. Every shot a team takes has an opportunity cost. That opportunity cost is expressed as "Could someone else have gotten a better shot?" And the better those alternative shots are, the higher that opportunity cost.
FIBA teams play a lot of zone. In fact, it is not uncommon for Team USA to play an entire game without ever seeing a man defense. And FIBA zones are not like NBA zones -- The NBA has rules about weak-side defense that prevents packing the paint, and FIBA has no such limitations. It's much more important to threaten the defense from beyond the 3-point line to get defenders out of the paint and create space. A player like Boogie shooting 15-20 footers against a zone mucks up this spacing (and it is generally precisely the shot that the zone wants the other team to take). Coach K likes to field lineups where nearly everyone is a threat beyond the arc. Tyson Chandler was a notable exception, but again, he was a player that, on offense, wasn't standing around that 15-20 foot area clogging up space. When attacking zones, Coach K likes big men who "hide" behind the low post defenders and run back and forth near the baseline; when a player attacks the paint, then the big man can step up from behind the basket to the spot vacated by the defender and either look for a pass/layup, or to grab the offensive board. Chandler did this exceptionally well, and guys like Anthony Davis and Plumlee also fill that void well. Boogie does not do this job well, because he's too often hanging around the perimeter (but not far enough out to be a 3-point threat).
Then there is the question of team fit. I think a player like Plumlee, who does not take many shots (and makes them when he does) is a far better fit on team USA than a jump-shooting center who takes lots of shots. This is because Team USA wants every shot it possibly can get from Kevin Durant. Obviously Durant cannot take every shot, but there is a "best shot" (Durant from three, dunk/layup from anybody) and then a long list of "better" or "good" shots, and somewhere way, way, way down that list is Boogie shooting an 18-footer. With Plumlee on the team, you get more of those shots because Plumlee won't shoot unless he gets a layup/dunk. This gets you more threes from shooters like Durant/Parsons/Harden, more penetration from Rose or Westbrook or Wall (with better targets to pass to off penetration than Boogie at 18 feet).

In short, I don't think this is about Duke. Plumlee is just a much better fit on this team than Boogie is, and I don't think that should really be all that controversial.

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That and the briefest mention of K's usual style of ball is all that's necessary to see that the decision would only be controversial among those who believe in talent over fit.

Not to mention how silly the controversy is, due to, y'know, the fact that it's about a guy who will play a small number of relief minutes in an international non-Olympic competition.

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74. "Nah it's 100% about him going to Duke. Just stop. "
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79. "remember: logic not allowed in basketball discussions"
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73. "Man, I ain't reading all that dumb bullshit. "
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All I had to see was great rookie season.

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103. "this "given the minutes"-derivative shit is so insulting to demarcus"
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too bad he ended up in sacramento cause their whole "let's have no plan whatsoever at positions 1-4" game plan for most of his career has killed his growth and reputation, and he STILL is the best center this side of dwight.

  

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48. "Harden vs Durant vs PG King of the Hill style"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bniqGnnEes

Again, we see Harden is actually capable of moving his feet and playing Defense, when their is accountability and his pride on the line with everyone watching.

Ive heard several people say what does a coach matter?


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50. "i still don't believe harden will actually try on d against finland or w..."
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i mean yeah, #fuck/firemchale, but how much more accountable do you need to be than "your team is about to fucking lose a playoff series"

  

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193. "..."
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.@cnasrollahy There is no Iguodala. I've heard USAB staff thrilled with defense from Harden, Faried. More on that: http://wwwsheridanhoops.com/2014/08/02/gonzo-leaving-las-vegas-three-things-you-didnt-know-about-team-usa/

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54. "did the cameraman take a break on PGs offensive plays?"
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or did he just get worked that bad.

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59. "right."
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I think he has two near the end

side note, it's funny how pg forced them to take the toughest shots and they kept making them

made me wonder how much footage was left out

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57. "Rosters for Blue White Scrimmage tomorrow 9pm EST"
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60. "white team winning."
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61. "RE: white team winning."
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i thought so too at first

but drose and wall

ant davis steph and the white bol shooters, iono

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68. "USA Basketball Showcase Rosters"
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http://www.usab.com/news-events/news/2014/07/usa-basketball-showcase-rosters.aspx

USA Basketball Showcase Rosters
Date: Jul 31, 2014


2014 USA Basketball Showcase - Blue Team Roster

No. Name Pos Hgt Wgt DOB NBA Team / College
43 Stephen Curry G 6-3 185 3/14/88 Golden State Warriors/Davidson
42 Anthony Davis F/C 6-10 220 3/11/93 New Orleans Pelicans/Kentucky
45 DeMar DeRozan G 6-7 216 8/7/89 Toronto Raptors/USC
13 Kenneth Faried F 6-8 228 11/19/89 Denver Nuggets/Morehead State
29 Paul George F/G 6-8 221 5/2/90 Indiana Pacers/Fresno State
24 Gordon Hayward F 6-8 210 3/23/90 Utah Jazz/Butler
39 Kyle Korver G/F 6-7 212 3/17/81 Atlanta Hawks/Creighton
75 Mason Plumlee F 6-11 235 3/5/90 Brooklyn Nets/Duke
41 Derrick Rose G 6-3 190 10/4/88 Chicago Bulls/Memphis
30 John Wall G 6-4 195 9/6/90 Washington Wizards/Kentucky
Coach: Monty Williams, New Orleans Pelicans



2014 USA Basketball Showcase - White Team Roster

No. Name Pos Hgt Wgt DOB NBA Team / College
28 Bradley Beal G 6-5 207 6/28/93 Washington Wizards/Florida
36 DeMarcus Cousins C 6-11 270 8/13/90 Sacramento Kings/Kentucky
25 Andre Drummond C 6-7 270 9/10/93 Detroit Pistons/Connecticut
52 Kevin Durant G 6-9 230 9/29/88 Oklahoma City Thunder/Texas
32 James Harden G 6-5 220 8/26/89 Houston Rockets/Arizona State
23 Kyrie Irving G 6-3 191 3/23/92 Cleveland Cavaliers/Duke
22 Damian Lillard G 6-3 195 7/15/90 Portland Trail Blazers /Weber State
51 Paul Millsap F 6-8 253 2/10/85 Atlanta Hawks/Louisiana Tech
34 Chandler Parsons F 6-9 227 10/25/88 Dallas Mavericks/Florida
21 Klay Thompson G 6-7 205 2/8/90 Golden State Warriors/Washington State
Coach: Tom Thibodeau, Chicago Bulls

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66. "Day 4 Roundup: Plumlee Gets Shot At National Team"
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Day 4 Roundup: Plumlee Gets Shot At National Team
Author: Taylor Bern Date: Jul 31, 2014
Las Vegas, Nevada

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It started as a math problem. The USA Basketball Mens National Team started training camp this week in Las Vegas with 19 players, leaving them a man short when they split into two teams for 5-on-5 drills.

Based on their need for more post players and his stellar performance for the Select Team at Mondays practice, the coaching staff tapped second-year pro Mason Plumlee to work out with the National Team the rest of the week.

It was funny, said Plumlee, whose brother Miles was also playing with the Select Team. They asked me if I wanted to, like I was going to say no.

While its no guarantee, that opportunity could turn into more than just practice time. Plumlee will suit up on the Blue Team at Fridays USA Basketball Showcase at the Thomas & Mack Center, and in the absence of many post options Plumlee (6-foot-11) could end up playing his way onto the FIBA Basketball World Cup roster.

Mason has a chance to go forward, said coach Mike Krzyzewski, who also coached Plumlee at Duke.

Managing director Jerry Colangelo and the coaching staff split the National Team up into two seemingly even rosters for Fridays intrasquad scrimmage. The Blue Team includes guys like Paul George, Derrick Rose and Anthony Davis while Kevin Durant, James Harden and Kyrie Irving will lead the White Team.

Thursdays practice was the lightest one of the week but Krzyzewski still made sure to put some different combinations out on the court together. Part of paring down the roster to 12 will be making decisions based not just on a players individual strengths but also how well hes able to bring out the best in other players. Friday is another chance to see some of those combinations work with a few more people watching.

Its a different group every day, so you get to see how they interact, Krzyzewski said. How much do they carry over what weve been doing in practice to a game setting with a crowd, although we have a crowd here every day.

The Showcase wraps up the Las Vegas portion of USA Basketballs training camp. After that theres some time off before the group reconvenes in Chicago on Aug. 14 for a couple days of practice and a scrimmage against Brazil on Aug. 16.

With the FIBA Basketball World Cup officially starting on Aug. 30, Krzyzewski isnt in a big hurry to pick his 12. He called this the best opening to training camp hes ever had with USA Basketball in terms of all the work theyve accomplished, but the evaluation process is still ongoing.

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67. "Quotes From Day 4 Of Men's National Team Training Camp"
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Quotes From Day 4 Of Men's National Team Training Camp
Date: Jul 31, 2014
Las Vegas, Nevada

USA Basketball National Team Head Coach Mike Krzyzewski

On DeMarcus Cousins:
I think hes been attentive and tried. Hes diving on the floor for loose balls. They all have to adapt and its a different way of playing defense. How do you play defense with all these athletes and how do you help out? So we have to see in these exhibition games how thatll wash out. First of all, we havent made the decision on 12 and we wont for a while. We definitely will take a long look at the bigs.

On the groups brotherhood:
We feel that USA Basketball and the word used a lot is a family. It should kind of be a little bit of a safe haven for being yourself, getting better, developing relationships with all the different guys in the league. So we feel how comfortable (Kevin) Durant, (James) Harden, (Stephen) Curry, (Derrick) Rose, these guys who first of all have played for us but also have been here before. It sets the tone. Also, the guys who were at the mini-camp last summer, were all here. Its not like an all-star game. Were showing them videos, trying to indoctrinate them into USA Basketball, talking to them. So now when they come its not like oh I dont know what to expect. And I think were better able to see who they are with that level of comfort.

On winning the 2010 FIBA World Championship with a young team and now having a lot of new faces:
I think its a different competition though. Its very difficult to win internationally no matter what. 10 was one of the best (jobs) that the U.S. has ever done because you got six guys who are 21. Usually they havent found out who they are yet and then being in that global crucible is not an easy thing and theyve responded magnificently. This group is not as young, obviously and this groups strength right now is its guard play. I mean you can see that. When we end up finally having 12 there are going to be guys who are outstanding guards who wont be on the team.

On if you can win small in international play:
You cant win completely small. No way. Younger, we can press the other countries and that and theyll cough it up or whatever. Spain, France, Lithuania, Argentina, thats not going to have an impact on them. You have to be able to play possession by possession. Then you can play it quick, but still youve got to play.



DeMar DeRozan

On the week:
The whole week has definitely been great. To get out here with these high caliber players, competing at a high level to try to make a team that everybody has a great honor to be a part of. Its just been a great week.

On whether the 2013 mini-camp or this weeks training camp was more exciting:
I think this time around to actually be in the pool of players to actually make the final team. Id have to say this time around and get ready to play in the game tomorrow.

On if hes gotten closer with anybody during the week:
A lot of them I probably knew for years before this. So its just cool to see a lot of guys that I knew before we were in the NBA here representing the USA.

On competing against the Select Team:
It definitely helped a lot. Theyve got a lot of great talent on their team. You cant deny that at all. Theyre coming out here to make a point for themselves as well. Theyre not going to slack or let up just because were the National team or whatever. They definitely brought it to us and it definitely helped us.

On if he sees any of the Select Team members having a chance to compete for a spot on the National Team in the near future:
Yeah I definitely see it. I was in their same position two summers ago, doing the same exact thing they were doing. So Im pretty sure a couple guys will be in the same position.

On how much his experience with the previous Select Team helped him progress:
It definitely helps a lot just to look around and youre on the court with all stars, MVPs, high caliber players and youre out there competing with them. That doesnt do anything but raise your confidence that much higher and elevate your game.

On if he enjoys the competition part of a tryout:
Yeah. As a competitor its cool because youve got to think about it: Were all here for a reason and just because you dont make this team, doesnt make you any less of a player. This is still a great accomplishment.

On what his expectations are for tomorrows USA Basketball Showcase:
A great game honestly. Going out there, playing extremely hard. Putting on a show for the fans and giving them what they came to see and watch 19 guys go out there and play their hearts out for our country.

On if he anticipates the evaluation from the Showcase to be judged harder than the evaluation from practices:
Probably. Im pretty sure. Itll still also give us a chance to play what weve been working on all week and put it all together.



Andre Drummond

On camp so far:

Its been a great experience this week having the guys back out here again. Just the competitiveness and how hard the guys are working. We are playing for one common goal and that is to be on this team representing our country.

On his performance thus far:

Everyones energy level and excitement level are at an all-time high; especially for me knowing I have a big chance of making the team. Ive been working hard and showing the coaches that Im somebody they need on this team.

On the game Friday night:

The game is important as a championship game. It gives the guys a chance to showcase their talent not only in front of the coaches but the fans as well too. Its a big night for all of us. Not only for myself but the rest of us.







Kenneth Faried

On the week:
Thus far, the experience is cool. Just getting after it and playing against some of the best, elite athletes in the world. Just us being on one team and some of us being on different teams, but all of us coming together for one cause.

On whether this years training camp has been more exciting than last years mini-camp:
Last year, I think was more excited than anything because it was the first time (participating with USA Basketball). But this year is equally exciting because I get a chance to go compete for a medal, hopefully if I make the team.

On what he believes he can bring to the team if hes one of the final-12 people selected:
Just enthusiasm, togetherness, energy, rebounding and a whole bunch of fun.

On battling the Select Team during camp:
They helped a lot, especially since none of us really played that intense in a while. So it helped.

On whether anyone stood out to him from the Select Team:
I think the person that probably stood out the most was Mason (Plumlee). Mason stood out the most. Just how big and athletic he played. The dunks and everything he was able to achieve. He played strong and I liked it and it stood out. And obviously he made it on our team, still as a Select Player, but hes able to come and play tomorrow night with us. So obviously he stood out the most.

On his mindset heading into tomorrows USA Basketball Showcase:
Just have fun and enjoy the moment. Only a few guys in the NBA get to experience something like this, especially playing at this high level. So just enjoy the moment and continue to play hard and do what I do.

Kyle Korver

On representing the United States:

To represent your country is an amazing thing. Being around these guys helps you grow personally. When you are around excellence, your own standard gets raised. Your desire to hang and thrive in an environment like this makes you work harder. Its a good thing for me personally. To come here and be around this group of guys is great. People talk about going through the USA process and end up having great years after that. You come here and are not going to slouch around. You are going to bust your butt because you want to compete and do well.

On being invited to camp:

Its great to be here on a lot of levels. For one, a group of people are recognizing you. I dont think of myself as a superstar. I dont think of myself as an elite player. Ive always tried to be the best teammate though. If you are going to build your team, you want me on it. I dont want to be the guy, but I want to on the best team. Here, they are trying to build the best team. For me, I didnt get to come here at the beginning of my career. Im 33. Im not some project that they are hoping will eventually come through. I dont like really talking about accomplishments but its good that people think you are doing a good job. It makes you want to work harder and become better.

On his role as a pure shooter:

Ive always felt the more dangerous the players are around me, the more dangerous I am. You cant really lock in on me if you are locking in on other guys especially. Thats when I am most dangerous. Im just trying to make the shots that I get. Its a new opportunity for me. It is super fun and Im excited about it.



Mason Plumlee

On the week:
Its been awesome. I was just sitting here watching the other guys work out. It really is a blessing to be here and you can pick up so much in so little time. You get to watch the guys work out after practice. You get to play against them. Theres no better place to be right now in basketball.

On his reaction to practicing with the National Team squad the last three days:
I was very excited and then at the same time I had to adjust. With the Select Team, I was looking to score, looking to create offense. Now, if I want to make this team, I have to play a different way. I was very excited, grateful for the opportunity and Im just making the most of it.

On if he was surprised to be informed that he would be practicing the rest of camp with the National Team after Mondays opening session:
You cant say you expect it because they werent looking for that coming in. But like I said, I had a good day that (first) day, but that stands out more cause I was looking for offense. Ive had some good days since. Its just been more screening, getting people open and playing defense. So there are different ways. You just have to kind of find your niche on each team and convince the coaches why you need to be on it.

On what it means to him to be the lone rising second year NBA player practicing with the National Team:
Its awesome. There are a lot of guys that could have been out here, but I was grateful that they gave me the opportunity. I just took them up on it.

On reuniting with his college coach Mike Krzyzewski:
Its been easy. Hes great. Shoot, he talked to me all playoffs. He talked to me throughout the regular season. You spend four years with the guy. Its not like he doesnt talk to you again once you graduate. Hes been in touch. And then, he doesnt just start coaching the National Team now. Hes talking to these guys all throughout the regular season and postseason.

On if Coach Ks coaching style is different with the National Team compared to his style at Duke:
Absolutely. Hes himself, but you dont have to say things to these guys that you have to say like when I was in college. Like you dont have to tell these guys to play hard. There are certain things that you dont have to worry about anymore. I shouldnt say hes different. I should just say he adjusts to the talent level.

On Fridays USA Basketball Showcase:
Im very excited. Ive never played in something like that before. Im just excited. Im going to show what I can do and whatever happens, happens. But I know Im going to give it my all and just stick true to what I do.



John Wall

On todays practice:

We are all kind of tired today but you play through it and get some rest tonight. Get a massage and prepare for the games. Tomorrow night just go out and play.

On camp so far:

Its exciting and fun. We are still trying to figure things out. There are a lot of guys competing and playing hard. Everyone is trying to find a way to get a spot on this team. Its not always the best talent they (coaches) put together. Its the best that can mesh together, have chemistry, and things like that. Its been a great four days.

On making the team:

Thats the goal. You do this to get to Chicago and New York and hopefully be one of the people to get picked to go to Spain and try to win a gold medal. Do the best that you can do to give yourself a great opportunity and chance.

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78. "Plumlee's smart as hell."
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>On his reaction to practicing with the National Team squad the
>last three days:
>I was very excited and then at the same time I had to adjust.
>With the Select Team, I was looking to score, looking to
>create offense. Now, if I want to make this team, I have to
>play a different way. I was very excited, grateful for the
>opportunity and Im just making the most of it.
>
>On if he was surprised to be informed that he would be
>practicing the rest of camp with the National Team after
>Mondays opening session:
>You cant say you expect it because they werent looking for
>that coming in. But like I said, I had a good day that (first)
>day, but that stands out more cause I was looking for offense.
>Ive had some good days since. Its just been more screening,
>getting people open and playing defense. So there are
>different ways. You just have to kind of find your niche on
>each team and convince the coaches why you need to be on it.

^^^ precisely what any coach wants to hear when they need an energy backup big with all those shooters on the floor. A+ media response.

Also, Manimal sees it:

>On whether anyone stood out to him from the Select Team:
>I think the person that probably stood out the most was Mason
>(Plumlee). Mason stood out the most. Just how big and athletic
>he played. The dunks and everything he was able to achieve. He
>played strong and I liked it and it stood out. And obviously
>he made it on our team, still as a Select Player, but hes
>able to come and play tomorrow night with us. So obviously he
>stood out the most.

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82. "I'm sure before he even got there he and Coach K had conversations..."
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about what he needed to do to have an opportunity to make the team.

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85. "That's pretty much all they had to do at Duke too, lol."
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They weren't feeding Miles or Mason in the paint. K likes to have guys who are happy setting screens, scrapping on the offensive glass, passing to shooters, and trying hard.

The fact that Mason runs and jumps better than most of the guys his size in the NBA is just a bonus.

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88. "RE: That's pretty much all they had to do at Duke too, lol."
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>They weren't feeding Miles or Mason in the paint. K likes to
>have guys who are happy setting screens, scrapping on the
>offensive glass, passing to shooters, and trying hard.

I think K is just good at coaching to the talent level of his players. When he's had guys the were talented offensive post players he's let them do their thing but as those guys have become more and more rare he's adapted just like everybody else.

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91. "Outside of Elton Brand..."
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... I can't think of one big man he's fed the ball to down low on offense. And even then, that team shot a fuckload of 3s.

It could just be the talent... But a lot of guys pretty highly ranked coming out of HS have come to Duke and become screen/rebound/pass/defend guys. I think it's just K's brand of ball.

We'll see how he uses Jahlil next year. If we feed the post on offense more than five times a game, I'll consider it a miracle, lol.

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93. "Booz and even Shelden got to do their thing too..."
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>... I can't think of one big man he's fed the ball to down
>low on offense. And even then, that team shot a fuckload of
>3s.

Well yeah because there was lot of talent on the perimeter as well

>It could just be the talent... But a lot of guys pretty highly
>ranked coming out of HS have come to Duke and become
>screen/rebound/pass/defend guys. I think it's just K's brand
>of ball.

Or maybe those are the kinds of guys he recruits...


>We'll see how he uses Jahlil next year. If we feed the post on
>offense more than five times a game, I'll consider it a
>miracle, lol.

yeah, we'll see...

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94. "Man, Shelden was almost exclusively putbacks on offense, lol."
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He was just accurate and strong enough at that that K didn't demand he kick the ball back out like he does for most of his bigs. We'd feed him for one or two of his little baby hooks per game-- I remember it would drive me bananas that even toward season's end when Redick was getting gassed, we STILL wouldn't try feeding the big man, lol.

Booz was more or less the same way, but again, that probably largely had to do with the talent on that roster-- no reason to feed the post when Booz could get double figures on putbacks and the guys outside can do so much damage.

Ba and I generally have an eye out on the recruiting front for goons. He doesn't need to score, he doesn't need to be that skilled. He needs to work hard on the offensive glass and fuck dudes up with physicality on defense. Lance Thomas and Brian Zoubek were prototype goons.

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95. "not true. Booz and Shelden got fed. "
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mason got feed too, especially his senior year.

but jahlil is gonna be the best player on the team next year, which shelden and booz weren't. and mase's game wasn't/isn't polished.

jahlil the best big K has ever landed.

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96. "They may have on occasion, but esp. with Shelden..."
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... the offense remained perimeter-oriented to a frustrating degree. Which sort of remains the larger point-- K's offenses aren't run through a big man, and really outside of Brand never have been.

I'm hoping this changes for Oak next year, and you're right that Oak, like Brand (and unlike Booz/Shelden), will be the best player on the court, which should help facilitate that process.

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104. "game on."
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105. "LAWD JESUS! D. ROSE. nm"
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106. "A physical beast."
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121. "hes baaaaack"
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107. "yeah they should've balanced these teams better."
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been impressed by harden & drose

not impressed by wall, george & plumlee 2

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108. "PG looked like ass. I'm scared."
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hit shot is completely broken and he almost got his pocket picked by Harden

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112. "harden iss actually trying on defense"
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so is kyrie.

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114. "Both are impressive."
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109. "None of the non-Davis bigs are playing well at all."
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Some competition.

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111. "Word? Looks only like Plumlee not playing well. Cuz balling."
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Drummond doing thing,

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113. "Huh? I've seen all of them struggle."
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Plumlee's only really bad moment was, predictably, the free throws.

I think Cuz and Drummond each scored... once? Each also missed badly once or twice. Plumlee I don't think has scored yet, and only tried shooting once, that floater that rimmed out, missed a Korver pick and roll once, and had it stripped once.

Regardless of agenda, it's not what you want from big man play heading into international games, though they aren't banging as much as they would in a real game understandably.

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115. "And as I write that, Plumlee comes alive top of the third."
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Running, which is precisely why he's getting considered for that spot.

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116. "Now Cousins responding to the Plumlee spurt. "
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This is why I tuned in, lol. I wanted to see some competition.

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117. "Boogie getting all of the rebounds. And lol @ once"
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118. "*shrug* Admittedly, I missed small parts of the first. "
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110. "PG is playing like he's somehow earned a green light"
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Playing with that unearned top-2 entitlement.

  

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120. "George must be leading in shot attempts."
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I feel like he fires nearly every touch he gets.

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119. "I'm starting to wonder if Cousins and Plumlee BOTH make it."
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And this whole thing was just a manufactured story by bored journalists who heard Plumlee may make it and rolled with it.

I'm not convinced Drummond and Cousins both make it, due to foul troubles. I'm not convinced Drummond and Plumlee both make it, due to foul shooting. Plus, now that Plumlee is alive in the third in a big way, Drummond looks like the weakest chain if this scrimmage means anything (which it may not).

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122. "george has been absolute trash."
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worst player out there.

dude got that max and said fuck it.

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123. "Can you get NyQuil over the counter in Europe? "
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124. "Dog that paul george injury made me hurl "
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its ware-esque nasty

  

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128. "I had Shaun Livingston flashbacks. Brutal brutal brutal."
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131. "Makes me sick man. Horrible. End the game now. "
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125. "dammit. sh*t happened on a hustle play too. nm"
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126. "damn. that looked REALLY bad."
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127. "aw man that's fuckin horrible. damn pg."
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129. "Paul George is out for the season. Damn."
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139. "injury like that could be seasons"
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130. "and dudes gotta go back out there and play. smh."
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they might need to huddle up, yep... there they go. Monty on it

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132. "COT DAMN!!! PG's leg smh...that looked AWFUL"
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So terrible to see that kind of injury in an exhibition game.

Damn I feel terrible for that dude.

That shit was gruesome.

Hopefully he's all right, but that was Shaun Livingston/Andrew Bogut/Kevin Ware bad.

Marcus Lattimore bad.

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133. "Everybody loses with this."
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The Pacers.
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134. "yeah that's awful: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BuABh1hCEAA04x_.jpg"
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feeling for PG right now.

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136. "fuuuuck"
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137. "Damn, that's crazy. Praying for PG."
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140. "thats horrific, daaaam those pics"
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141. "What's sad is that this could be career ending"
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or at the very least, Livingston-esque in the sense that if he comes back he may never be the same kind of player.

And it was in an exhibition.

SMH extremely sad.

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142. "Dudes are gonna start backing out of Team USA now"
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143. "RE: Rose gonna start backing out of Team USA now"
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145. "Did you see Durant's face..."
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...after Coach K called the game?

I don't think guys would drop out, but it wouldn't surprise me.

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148. "I'm more concerned about owners/GMs."
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These guys know the injury risk going in. But owners/GMs are gonna be less okay with players going for it, and there may be contract stipulations in the future that put the control of international play into the hands of the suits.

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151. "man i hope not."
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144. "Praying for George"
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Damn.

  

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147. "He's never playing again bros"
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This shit hurts

  

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149. "Kevin Ware, Shaun Livingston, Willis McGahee, Marcus Lattimore"
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have all made comebacks (Lattimore still pending) and played again.

Can't say that with certainty right now.

he could very well come back, but odds that he's the same player are stacked against him.

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150. "This shit hurt man"
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and I'm not much of a George fan

  

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154. "didnt kenyon martin break his leg too"
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sometimes knee injuries or ankle injuries are far worse.

..|.,

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dula dibiasi
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152. "if it's "just" a fracture, with no joint or ligament damage"
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he might be back quicker than ppl think.

paul seems like a tough kid and a really hard worker. i'm certainly not counting him out.

https://twitter.com/ProFootballDoc/status/495407097094606848

David J. Chao, MD
‏@ProFootballDoc
Injury for @Paul_George24 is horrific but should not be career threatening like if he dislocated knee. Likely no nerve or artery damage.
10:13 PM - 1 Aug 2014

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155. "pretty much."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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157. "yeah basically"
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hell be out for a full season, but might be just fine.
its not one of those nagging moving part injuries.

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153. "whooo shiiiiit, man. FOCK."
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156. "it's a fractured tibia...this ain't ligaments. he'll be fine"
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6-8 months.

bone heals. looked like a clean break too. some screws and a plate...maybe a bone graft and he good as new.

if he'd blown his knee and cooked his acl/mcl/meniscus...all his explosiveness would be gone by the time he hits 27.

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164. "Let's hope so. That looks worse than a knee injury."
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Kevin Ware came back though I think. But he was booty before...and still booty I'm guessing.

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158. "Will he be back for a full season before Rose though?"
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159. "I just can't...."
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Horrible injury....

Pray for that brother....

GOAT of his era......long live Prince.....God is alive....

  

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160. "Windhorst is talking about the Thomas & Mack Center"
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https://twitter.com/WindhorstESPN/status/495409174688169985

@WindhorstESPN: Basket stanchions at Thomas & Mack Center appears to be significantly closer than NBA standard.

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186. "I was just coming to ask if they appeared closer than normal"
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________________________________
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161. "wow ..the knicks have a chance now.."
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get well PG

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be about it or be without it

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178. "Lol yup....i had the knicks as the 9th seed early yesterday"
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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162. "Y'all words are enough. I'm not watching that sh*t. Praying for dude "
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dula dibiasi
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163. "this is nothing like the livingston injury btw."
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shawn tore his ACL, PCL and meniscus, sprained his MCL, dislocated his patella and broke his leg. his doctors were talking amputation at one point.

this isn't comparable. paul should be fine. no reason he can't eventually be the same player.

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it is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts. - sherlock holmes

  

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167. "It's like Livingston's in the sense that it's vomit-inducing."
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But you're right that the injuries aren't the same at all.

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168. "How does everyone know so much without a true medical eval"
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I'm no doctor but I don't know how anyone can say from looking at that --it's conclusively not this, or is that, etc.

I wouldn't be surprised at clean break, wouldn't be surprised at major ligament damage or anything in between.

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170. "clean break or not, are there examples of..."
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all star caliber NBA players coming back from something like this?

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dula dibiasi
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172. "nothing's conclusive yet"
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but we can certainly speak in terms of likelihood, based on currently available information.

it looked like a clean tib-fib fracture. sports surgeons are on twitter saying no reason to assume ligament, nerve, artery damage.

ppl are writing obituaries to his career, for pete's sake. that sort of stuff is ridiculously premature.

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southphillyman
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179. "Arm chair orthopedic surgeons with PHDs in Google"
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everyone in a race to be the first to deliver a prognosis

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181. "this is why the "will Rose be the same" agenda war made zero sense to me"
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like none of y'all know shitand are just guessing

  

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182. "those discussions took place over the course of 2 yrs, multiple injuries"
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and one hapless attempt to come back at full strength
a little different than ppl giving definitive prognosis from their lazy bois a hour after PGs leg snapped
ultimately you're right though

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173. "Yup"
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Saw the injury, and as GRUESOME as the shit looked, it wasn't his knees or achilles. Since it's the bone, he should recover OK. Kevin Ware's joint looked much worse and he can catch dunks now.

Still though, hope everything gets better soon for him though

  

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Kira
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165. "The Bulls need to pull D. Rose ASAP."
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166. "Dry heaved while watching that. Horrible."
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Hope he recovers at some point.

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169. "Career ended too soon."
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Hadn't even reached the level to be compared with other potential greats who's careers ended too soon.

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184. "Wut"
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171. "yeah man...that's fukked up...."
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like that dude, man..

hopefully he can come back..

seeing him evolve into a real baller was cool though..

  

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174. "lotta OK MDs in here"
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Had no idea.

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175. "Didn't see it. Just gotta hope the dude gets better. Sad. "
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176. "^^^^^ my sentiments exactly"
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LA2Philly
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177. "Horrific looking injury for PG but looked like a clean compound break"
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You'd much rather have a broken fibula than a torn acl/mcl/pcl etc. He will miss 8-10 months but he'll def be back.

---------------------------------
<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
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180. "RE: USA Basketball 2014 FIBA World Cup Post"
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So unfortunate, wish him a speedy recovery
Going be rough for the pacers I can't even name his backup off the top of my head
Without lance and pg hibbert going get those touches he's been begging for so we'll see
Good thing it happened on a summer Friday night and I wasn't on the couch watching a scrimmage, couldn't imagine seeing that live
Hopefully they release info today and dr.andrews can work his magic

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183. "tough situation for PG and the pacers..."
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..i really hope he makes a full recovery in the next couple years.

can't front: if i'm the bulls, i'm pulling derrick rose.


*skatin' the rings of saturn*


..and miles to go before i sleep...

  

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185. "Broken fibula and tibia for PG, hopefully no nerve damage"
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<--The drought is over

"have fun reveling in your pettiness tho" (C) Dula summing up 98% of OKS

"I didnt finish a damn thing...matter of fact I jerked off after she left."
-Kobe speaking to investigators

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187. "No good reason for Plumlee to be selected over Big Cuz **swipe**"
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http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2014/8/1/5957669/mason-plumlee-demarcus-cousins-team-usa-roster-decision

It's weird to me that this is even a story now. It's like if Roy Williams coached the National Team & wanted to put Kendall Marshall on the squad over D-Rose.

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188. "lol"
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189. "tried to avoid the PG footage but I saw it.... my god..."
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190. "same here.. i dont like this type of shit.."
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dula dibiasi
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191. "thankfully, no knee or ankle damage (per windhorst)"
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http://espn.go.com/video/clip?id=espn:11299573

if there's a bright side, it's that. his long term prognosis is good.

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192. "It's better to break a bone than to tear a ligament or muscle"
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It looks much nastier, but bones heal back stronger, connective tissue has a poor healing mechanism and doesn't really regenerate.

  

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dula dibiasi
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194. "breaking down the remaining roster."
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A close look at remaining U.S. roster
Updated: August 5, 2014, 2:26 PM ET
By Marc Stein and Brian Windhorst | ESPN.com

Sixteen players to choose from. Only 12 roster spots available. And merely 10 more days of practices and exhibition games to collect sufficient on-court data to break any ties.

That is what coach Mike Krzyzewski and managing director Jerry Colangelo face starting Aug. 13 in Chicago, up until they board the Team USA plane bound for Spain on Aug. 23, in choosing the dozen players who will represent the United States at the inaugural FIBA World Cup.

Tuesday's release of John Wall, Bradley Beal and Paul Millsap, in the wake of the devastating compound leg fracture that felled Paul George, is only Phase 1. To get you (and the USA Basketball bosses) ready for the tough choices ahead -- four more cuts on top of the various emotional challenges after what happened to well-liked George -- we've broken it all down here by position:

POINT GUARD

LOCKS


Derrick Rose
Any lingering doubt about his athletic explosion or his status on this team was eradicated by the end of the first day of practice in Las Vegas. It's hard now to see Rose as anything other than the starter at the point against Finland in Team USA's first group game in Bilbao on Aug. 30, especially after the early show he put on in Friday's night ill-fated intrasquad scrimmage.


Stephen Curry
Look for him to spend plenty of time at shooting guard, even though he's listed here with the other 1s. His boundless range, versatility, previous experience in this competition Curry is a franchise player with this group, just like he is in Oakland.


Kyrie Irving
The sight of Irving starting opposite Rose in the intrasquad scrimmage was the latest indication that he has a spot sewn up. He can't yet make the defensive impact Wall could have, and isn't quite as flammable offensively as a locked-in Damian Lillard, but USA Basketball regards Irving as a big part of this going forward. Hard to see Coach K leaving him home in those circumstances.

ON THE BUBBLE


Damian Lillard
It's not inconceivable that Krzyzewski could keep all four of these guys after letting Wall go, especially given Lillard's aforementioned flammability as a shooter. But four lead guards on a roster of 12 could well be one too many. If so, Lillard losing out to Irving -- one of Coach K's longtime faves -- is the safest forecast.

SHOOTING GUARD

LOCKS


James Harden
There were actual plaudits emanating from Sin City about Harden's efforts defensively last week after his (bad segue alert) borderline sinful showing on that end for the Rockets last season. The Beard, mind you, probably would be in the starting lineup against Finland even if he didn't guard a soul for the rest of the month. He's one of the world's greatest scorers, and, in this group of Team USA newcomers, one of the trusted vets.


Klay Thompson
With his size and defensive ability, Thompson actually does give Coach K an excellent option at the 2 if he did see the need to drop Harden to the bench. Or Thompson could find himself starting at small forward in place of injured George, given the suddenly sizable void at the 3 spot. Either way, Thompson's ability to make an impact at both ends makes it impossible for Krzyzewski to leave him behind.

ON THE BUBBLE


Kyle Korver
He won't complain if he doesn't play, and he'll make shots to bust zones when Coach K does send him in. Given his ability to log minutes at small forward, as well, Korver will probably find his way onto this roster.

SMALL FORWARD

LOCKS

None
Paul George was the only lock here. And his story is too sad to tell again.

ON THE BUBBLE


Chandler Parsons
With his multifaceted game and the size to play both forward spots internationally, as well as his respected range, Parsons appears to have the best shot to make the squad among the bubble 3s. But the competition here is fierce, so his defense won't/can't be overlooked.


DeMar DeRozan
A strong showing in Friday's intrasquad scrimmage, combined with George's unfortunate absence, has put DeRaptor in legit contention for a roster spot when he was widely presumed to be one of the first cuts. Can he keep the fairy tale going?


Gordon Hayward
All the raves Hayward generated in last year's Team USA minicamp are what made you think he'd get a max offer in 2014 restricted free agency. But the breakout star of Team USA's brief 2013 time together hasn't been able to generate quite the same buzz as part of this crowd. Small forward is a position in the spotlight the next two weeks after what happened to the face of the Pacers and Hayward has to deliver if he wants to trump DeRozan.

POWER FORWARD

LOCKS

Kevin Durant
Seriously? You're looking for a justification sentence?


Kenneth Faried
Millsap's early exit would seem to suggest that Faried has already won a roster spot. The fact he started opposite Durant in the intrasquad scrimmage was yet another signal the Nuggets' ever-busy 4 man has taken advantage of the July withdrawals of Kevin Love and Blake Griffin. Faried doesn't have the bulk or defensive rsum to worry Spain or Brazil, but his high energy and constant activity will be seen as a nuisance to all who will have to deal with it.

CENTER

LOCKS


Anthony Davis
The 12th man on the gold-medal-winning London Olympics squad might be the most important player on this team, given the limited center options at Coach K's disposal. The U.S. needs him to be dominant defensively yet stay out of foul trouble -- which is always an issue for big men in the five-fouls-and-you're-out world of FIBA competition.

ON THE BUBBLE


DeMarcus Cousins
Talent isn't the issue. Obviously. Team USA coaches and officials want to bring Boogie abroad with them -- if only to know they can throw him at the Gasol brothers in the Sept. 14 title game if necessary -- but they need to know first that Cousins can keep his composure and handle limited minutes when his services aren't required. That's what they will try to determine Aug. 13-22.


Mason Plumlee
Coach K dropped more than a few hints in Vegas last week that the former Blue Devil could actually beat Cousins for a roster spot, thanks to his speed and agility (and presumed willingness to stay hushed if he's parked at the end of the bench). The fact he outplayed Cousins head-to-head in their one shift against each other in Vegas only adds to the notion that Boogie vs. Plumlee is the most intriguing battle leading into the real thing.


Andre Drummond
When Team USA practices resume in Chicago, Drummond will find himself needing to play catch-up to Cousins and Plumlee. Coach K is likely to take only two extra centers behind Davis, and Drummond, for all of his rebounding gifts at age 20, is a distinct No. 3 in that race after a lackluster week in Vegas.

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195. "Wildcat on Wildcat violence: AD takes out Cuz..."
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http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/kings/2014/08/14/demarcus-cousins-injured-usa-basketball/14062129/?utm_source=feedblitz&utm_medium=FeedBlitzRss&utm_campaign=usatodaycomnba-topstories

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196. "Anthony Davis..."
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looks fucking scary out there...His jumper is working....

D Rose....glad to see him back out there in front of that Chicago crowd...

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197. "If he can stay healthy...he is going to be nutting on every frontline"
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I can see him having an MVP type 3rd season ala D-Rose in 2011.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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198. "by the end of next season, he'll be the 3rd best player in the world."
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>looks fucking scary out there...His jumper is working....

it won't even be debateable. and once he extends his range to 3, everybody else can just go home.

>D Rose....glad to see him back out there in front of that
>Chicago crowd...

http://youtu.be/1Ni47IFUb8o
http://youtu.be/x6yW20J2tUE

ZERO TO 3 HUNNA NIGGA REAL QUICK

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199. "I don't think there was a 3+ pass possession. "
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'Twas basically a playground game.

And the interior D was really bad. Thibs looked pissed.

I'm assuming this improves. Just tough to watch at times.

  

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200. "Word? With those unselfish point guards?"
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201. "RE: Word? With those unselfish point guards?"
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Actually had nothing to do with those "unselfish" point guards...

Harden was pounding that rock in the ground...lol...And when he wasn't doing that he was charging to the hoop working the refs for his 11 FTs...

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202. "This game cemented why I hate Harden's game"
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porous defense and a black hole on offense is not a productive combination.

He got to the line but he had just as many trips where if it wasn't for Offensive Rebounds we would have been toast.

D

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203. "he mad Johnny Be Average isn't needed. "
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____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8OWNspU_yE

  

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204. "kyrie's a great teammate btw."
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partying like shit on the rose crossover :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6yW20J2tUE

...

putting the battery in AD's back :

http://hangtime.blogs.nba.com/2014/08/17/chicagos-finest-lead-usa-past-brazil/

"Davis worked himself into the game offensively after a poor shooting start. Kyrie asked me, Are you going to stop shooting the ball because you missed three jump shots? Davis said. I told him no. We came out and ran a play for me and made the first one, and he said, Thats all you needed. Then I hit the next three or four, whatever."

...

dem intangibles. he helpin.

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205. "kyrie likes winning more than he hates losing"
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that's why he excels with niggas who knows what they doing and checks right the fuck out when running with niggas who sorry but think they good.


everybody not a "hate losing, so i'mma try hard all the time despite how sorry we are" player.

____________________________________________________


Steph: I was just fooling about

Kyrie: I wasn't.


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206. "Irving to start..."
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http://www.thescore.com/nba/news/565286

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207. "Asik & them Turks gettin in that ass nm"
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208. "ergin ataman is running a clinic."
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i can't see this team fucking w/ españa.

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209. "fiba lists asik's height as 6'12""
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turkey woulda been some real shit if the stars had aligned so turkey glue was in his prime and ersan or kanter were legit good.

  

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210. "Turkey is running an offense properly, we are not. "
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Not sure why we're not playing inside out.

  

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211. "BROWZUS"
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#3 w/ a bullet

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212. "Faried is a stud. "
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I wonder howtrue those rumors they were shopping him were.

Hes just such a difference maker with his hustle.

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213. "just think of how much talent has been through denver these last few yea..."
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and they can't do shit cause its the west.

  

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214. "i think there was something to it."
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especially at the beginning of the season, it was clear he either didn't fit into brian shaw's vision, or b. shaw didn't quite know how to use him. as the season progressed, however, faried proved himself to be a capable scorer on the low block. he's still not quite there defensively on-ball.

the crazy thing about these games is that he's shown a lot almost strictly on energy and hustle. at the end of last season, he was much more than that. i'm very happy for him because this tournament is going to raise his profile considerably, quite possibly into max contract territory.

i'd like to see the nuggets' front office get an extension done before the start of the season for something at least close to the max. i think now might actually be a good time from the team's perspective because the scale is going to increase with the new tv deal. max now might look like a bargain in a couple of years. faried deserves it, imo.

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216. "Dude looking like a young K-Mart out there"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
http://40.media.tumblr.com/d8e2daf9f3f37244cd05436bcdf05973/tumblr_mt4qibKq4c1rgam01o1_1280.png

  

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238. "Like a young underachiever? LOL. No. "
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KMart was a borderline franchise big man, who could
have been Lamarcus Aldridge if he had a real work
ethic

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263. "K-Mart & franchise big men should never be mentioned together"
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>KMart was a borderline franchise big man, who could
>have been Lamarcus Aldridge if he had a real work
>ethic

Dude was a born to be a Bamma & it wasn't like he had the natural talent of Shawn Kemp or Sheed.

WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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215. "dieng and senegal squeezing out wins"
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217. "Pau obliterated Nene nm"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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218. "nene's good for like 2 series every 3 years"
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i'm hoping this generation inspires the next to do better...brazil should be a basketball powerhouse

  

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219. "Glad Ky Ky ain't been buttfuck hideous like some people"
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Happy Labor Day, All.

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220. "This team ain't winning Gold."
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I see Spain beating them, maybe even by a large margin. I noticed it back in training camp, there is not one proven winner on the roster. DRose has gotten the furthest and that's losing in 5 in the ECF. Hell, almost half of the team hasn't even played in a playoff game.

They got so flustered by Turkey's zone, imagine how they'll crack under a cohesive, talented, and experienced team like Spain. Unless Team USA really comes together during the rest of pool play, they'll go home disappointed. As of now it's mostly 1 on 1 offense with no clear alpha dog yet (Davis has done this the most, surprisingly) who will take over late in the game.

  

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221. "Your objection has been noted and the witness will be heard"
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Witness: thank you, Your Honor. Ky Ky will lead this team to the title because this is the year of madness and people just gotta be mad. It starts here.

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Steph: I was just fooling about

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222. "not while Harden is being passed to"
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Late in the game I'll expect Harden to either pound the rock and brick step back threes, or pound the rock and drive in search for a foul, flailing his arms and not getting the superstar calls he's accustomed to. I hate his game and he's the farthest from a team player, so Team USA openly saying he's their leader shows you how screwed this team is.

I've got to admit though, Kyrie has been balling and has become one of my favorite players to watch. Him and Davis have been the best so far, and with the game on the line I would give it to Kyrie. Of course as a Bulls fan, I must mention he still doesn't know how to run an offense and DRose is a much better all around player and will prove that once he gets used to playing again.

  

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223. "They ain't playing a 7 game series, it's one game"
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Curry or Harden could go off, the Gasols could have an off night, somebody could get in foul trouble.

It's a coin flip. It's not like the US doesn't have the talent.

  

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224. "and the last time we worried about experience, Spain got beat in the qf"
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yeah, they didn't have both Gasols, but Spain's going to have a tougher road through their part of the bracket than we are.

  

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268. "yup!"
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225. "Lemme kno if u wanna put any $ down on that, I'll go US, u got the field"
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226. "FIBA 76er side note: Super Dario showin his skill/toughness this tourney"
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Takes an elbow to the mouth that knocks out six teeth, at least one of which punctured fully thru the lip playing Argentina (didn't see who did it bcuz I was still sleeping when it happened and hopped in during the aftermath but my money 10 times out of 10 would be Nocioni, slight chance of Scola as runner-up).

Comes back in the game in the fourth, goes right to the basket for a huge and-one when Argentina was starting to mount a charge, made a nice pass for an assist, also had a block as Croatia pulled away late for the upset win lead by 17 & 9 from the 20-year-old with the busted-up grill.

Side note: he postponed oral surgery to play in the Senegal game the next day, Croatia lost due to Dieng going off but Saric was Croatia's only scorer in double-digits and led his team every game of the tournament.

The moral of the story is that Super Dario is gonna be a guy to watch when he comes to the NBA, the season after Embiid debuts and Hinkie snags two more studs in this year's first round.

  

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228. "http://tinyurl.com/q2xu6cu"
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http://tinyurl.com/q2xu6cu

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229. "Pretty good but I'm down with the plan, next year our last lotto team"
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Year after that comes Captain Cameroon and we make the playoffs as Hans becomes the third straight Sixer Rookie of the Year (tho Jabari will make it tough for Noel this year).

Then we add Super Dario to that mix and we become a problem from the league for the rest of the decade.

  

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227. "If they keep following Anthony Davis, they should get the gold. "
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230. "Y'all thought I was crazy on the pod for saying Brow, not KD, would be t..."
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to finally end Bron's chokehold on 'best player in the game' title he's had since 2007 but he's probably the safest bet to do it someday (maybe 3/4 more years but still).

He's gonna be the guy who gets us Gold here and he might even be able to overcome Dell Demps' mishmash bad roster in N.O. to creep into a 7/8 seed out West this season.

He'll have to leave there tho to actually win for real tho I'm guessing.

  

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231. "oh i'm fully on board w/ this"
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KD needs to up his time table bc davis is clearly the best bet as next up "guy whose team is always a contender because he's on it"

http://card.mygamercard.net/lastgame/rjcc.png

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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237. "That's MY agenda"
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239. "won't take that long."
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>he's probably the safest bet to
>do it someday (maybe 3/4 more years but still).

it'll be that long before *some* folks acknowledge it (for the exact same "hegemony of the ring" nonsense reasons that magic/bird heads fronted on mike and kobe stans fronted on bron for years after they'd already snatched the crown but before they'd won it all) but in actual factual terms, i'd bet on it coming sooner than that.

sky's the fucking limit for that kid. no ceilings whatsoever. he's got the potential to one day dominate the game on the defensive end like russell and on the offensive end like durant. nothing's off the table. if he's a 4bpg, 2spg, 40% 3p player 3 yrs from now, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

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241. "wait, what?"
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>sky's the fucking limit for that kid. no ceilings whatsoever.
>he's got the potential to one day dominate the game on the
>defensive end like russell and on the offensive end like
>durant. nothing's off the table. if he's a 4bpg, 2spg, 40% 3p
>player 3 yrs from now, it wouldn't surprise me one bit.

he's made a total of TWO 3 pointers in 2 NBA seasons on 15 attempts and you have him down as a 40% 3 point shooter in 3 years?

y'all mf's always jump the shark with this shit, lol

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242. "i don't 'have him down' as anything. "
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i'm literally saying that NOTHING would shock me at this point.

you otoh said he'd NEVER go 20/10. and he did it year 2. at age 21.

so you should prolly just keep his name outcha mouth. make that shit taste like ass when you speak it.

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243. "He did talk extra greazy about the Brow. I think there were others..."
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too. Too lazy to research,

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245. "^^^completely throwing it out there"
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246. "http://tinyurl.com/MyNameIsTruthMyEvalsAreBooBoo"
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http://tinyurl.com/MyNameIsTruthMyEvalsAreBooBoo

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248. "a lot of people that are all in now were cautious then, I see you didn't..."
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say shit

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251. "i wasn't even on the boards then. i left for like a year."
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i also don't follow college sports. only CBB i watch is the tourney. my evals on guys start once they go pro. you'll never see me in those posts, or anywhere else for that matter, pretending i know something that i don't.

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253. "^^^PLEAS COPPED"
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255. "lulz"
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http://i.imgur.com/4qUed8R.jpg

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249. "good god these predictions are horrible"
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i'm only at MKG and you have bags saying better than iggy by year two and chuckneal calling pippen 2.0
yikes
*keeps on scrolling*

auraginboi said top 5 trob would be the steal of the draft
RBO called jeremy lamb the best SG in the draft , after shitting on beal
jaescott predicted austin rivers would avg. 24ppg one day
bomb wrote a novel on andrew nicholson
this shit so cringe worthy yet so good, lol

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250. "That's why this shit is great. I still think Lamb would do well..."
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in the right situation.

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252. "better than a search function, because i know what you said about tyreke"
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i just can't prove it. you acted a muhfuckan fool. and don't get me started on jrue v. kyrie.

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254. "why u being defensive?"
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everybody in there predictions was ass
not just yours

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256. "not being defensive...just sayin the search function sucks"
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and it's been saving niggas from themselves for years.

there's a whole faction of darren mcfadden cysers on this board that i can never get at because those threads are gone. but, i remember that shit. just like i remember you annointing Reke.

But, i can't prove none of that stuff, so I don't say anything about it.

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257. "I thought DMC was gonna be Peterson mixed with Herschel. "
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I hate that nigga so much now. A stain on my Raider fandom.

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258. "all i know is he's another one not better than reggie bush"
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there have been MANY a cysed RB before and after reggie on this board who have flopped miserably and dudes are HIDING.

reggie still here tho and he gonna end his career with 15K total yards, 75 TDs and a ring.

not bad. all i'm saying.

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259. "I was on the wrong side of Reggie vs DMC. "
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Right side of A.D. vs Reggie though. I fucks with Reggie.

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262. "i woulda been on the wrong side of AP vs. Jesus, so I don't feel bad"
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they still be tryna use AP on me to get at Reggie...lol

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240. "I always said A.D. would be the next Tim Duncan. "
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HOF'er, winner, and constant mainstay among the NBA elite.

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232. "Pau your second best scorer. © Basaglia"
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Ok.

https://digife.com

  

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233. "he not?"
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247. "that was dudes thesis, lmao "
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234. "some good analysis on Team USA's flaws: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=..."
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4TdjgrERN0&feature=youtu.be



Spash Bros jacking up unnecessary 3's

Harden can't play defense.

Harden isn't the only one, players "standing around" no rotations on defense

No ball movement. Too rely on individual player to make play. Poor spacing.

Too many fancy move attempts

Opponents foul after lost possession to stop fast break

  

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235. "remember like 3 weeks ago where harden tried for half a practice"
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he's still gonna be james harden most of the time.

BUT HE GETS STEALS

he's still james harden on defense.


  

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236. "https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bwig176IQAAjM2r.png"
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244. "Unreal."
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260. "nigga look like Slenderman"
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261. "aron baynes says "y'all really wanna replace me with ayon?""
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i hope some euro/asia squad doesn't pay the dude.

  

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264. "VIV LA FRANCE!!!"
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265. "it gets all the VIVING...ALL OF IT!!!"
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266. "..."
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http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-8gviOoNM0Ss/Uxy5-0xThoI/AAAAAAAADnw/i3tcD1DfIHk/s1600/1.gif

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267. "Bon Bon!!! "
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269. "lmfao"
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270. "France finally accomplished something they couldn't WITH Top5"
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...beat Spain WITH Pau (he didn't play in Euro 2013 when France won the tournament). It wasn't too long ago the Spurs closed out a couple of series en-route to a chip w/ Top5 on the bench. Dude is like the least irreplaceable "star player" I can think of in the past 10 years. (Argentina sans Manu meanwhile got bounced by wack ass Brazil)

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271. "I don't put much stock in stuff like that to be honest"
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You're looking at two very good groups meeting two distinct challenges in the short run. Yeah, Parker is the common thread, but I am pretty sure given the choice the Spurs and France would both sacrifice a lot to have him in the lineup. I know there is the whole "Patrick Ewing theory" thing where a team coalesces and plays better without its star or whatever, but I always thought that was bullshit, too

And you will know MY JACKET IS GOLD when I lay my vengeance upon thee.

  

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272. "man we are wrecking Serbia. kyrie went in."
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273. "KYRIE'S TEAM"
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274. "#ANOTHERPATCH"
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275. "So much for the world catching up with us."
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276. "France missing Top5/Joakim & a bunch of NBA players"
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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277. "Yugoslavia broke up too n.m."
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WHAT'S GOOD *****? What's REALLY good?!?!????!!! Ha HA!
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280. "lol, what has France ever won?"
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291. "France beat Spain w/o Joakim in the 2013 Euro Finals"
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France has basically surpassed Spain now that they have beaten them twice include in this tournament when Spain was at full power & France was missing Top5/Joakim..plus a bunch of role players (Pietrus/De Colo/Serapin/Ajinca/Mahimi/Petro/Beaubois/Turiaf).

If Joakim/Top5 are on the roster for the 2015 Euros along w/ Batum entering his prime then France could have a starting line-up of:

Joakim
Diaw
Batum
Gelabale
Top5

Fournier/Gobert have a potential to develop into solid role players just in 2 yrs time just in time for Rio 2016.

This team isn't going to get punked by the team USA front-line unlike the rest of the Euros (France actually punked Spain who had 3 NBA All-Stars level players on their front-line). Besides, France has a championship caliber ball handler who isn't going to get flustered by Coach K's ball pressure esp. when they already have Batum/Diaw/Joakim who are more than capable of initiating plays. Batum/Galabale are also excellent tandem as perimeter defenders thus Kyrie/Beard aren't going to have it their way esp. w/ Joakim/Diaw/Gobert being the help defenders on the PnR.

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283. "USA missing top 1 bron, top 2 lev, top 3? blake"
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+enough talent to claim silver and bronze and some knock out spots

not to disparage the international talent and the teams out there, but we're talking about a team whose standouts were dudes like kyrie, faried, harden, and cousins. they are considered incomplete players in the nba.

  

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284. "right, that USA pipeline is still thick, Spain, Brazil, Argentina and......"
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everybody else that was supposed to challenge us are fading.

The only real potential competition as Canada and they are a LONG was away and still won't have anywhere near the depth with have.

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287. "i don't think they're going away though...except for spain/arg they all ..."
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got youth...and spain technically has some youth, it just feels like rubio and ibaka are already knowns.

but france is young as fuck...other than diaw and gelabale they're younger than we are. a lot of team in eastern europe were centered around dudes in their early 20s too. and thats not counting dudes like giannas and exum who could be major but didn't do shit this go.

the thing is we outnumber most of those countries and our kids play more basketball...

and our only more popular sport has a strong disincentive for safety reasons that will only get worse over time. futbol ain't gonna fall off in spain like youth football has fallen off and will continue to fall off here.


canada's future depends entirely if EVERYONE buys in, and EVERYONE develops, and EVERYONE is healthy. they're so thin that they're gonna be worn out qualifying/learning the nba/playing in tournaments.

if shit breaks perfectly, they're 2 deep and medal contenders in 2018 and 2020, and maybe a dark horse in brazil.

but we could also live in universe where australia runs shit in tokyo with exum/simmons/maker hitting their primes in time to finally give mills and baynes a shot at a medal. that's theoretically (i.e. not more projection than team canada) a pretty nasty squad.

  

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279. "Yea anticlimactic like shit"
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Not a coincidence the posting in here trailed off as the games ramped up, shit was boring

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278. "Lmao, woj is mad about...something"
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281. "he's kinda right though, I basically said the same thing a while back"
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282. "He's right on many points"
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285. "The only thing he's right about is the "no duh" part."
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That college basketball coaches who help with Team USA often reap the benefits of their exposure to stars and up and coming recruits.

He's wrong when he leaves the other coaches who've done the same thing out of it. And especially wrong when a week ago he was praising Cal's "pro combine," as if he's doing that out of generosity instead of taking advantage of what that will do for his recruiting.

And he's wrong when he fails to satisfactorily note the absolute obvious: that before K, Team USA was not a guarantee to win these events, regardless of the talent gap. K's involvement is not a one-way street-- Team USA also benefits.

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288. "The Kentucky "Combine" isn't just for recruiting. "
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Part of it might be a recruiting event to take the place of the annual Alumni Game since they're not having it this year.

But it's also to promote the current players & team.

And more importantly to have the rest if the practices during the season to be just about getting better and #9 without NBA personnel looming around at every chance.

If it helps the kids, Cal's with it,

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289. "USA Basketball helps the kids, K's with it. "
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290. "Ok, I'm not saying anything diff. "
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292. "We're on the same page. Point is, Woj treats them differently."
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When they're not.

There is absolutely nothing wrong with college coaches using Team USA and pro connections to help recruit as they also help the players succeed, grow, meet goals, and get better opportunities. That's why K, Cal, Jimmy, Billy D, Sean Miller-- they all do it. And more will continue to do it in the future.

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286. "he's wrong"
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the NBA fell back and started sending just whoever to these international tournaments years ago and they ended up losing a few times. pretty sure they'd rather avoid that in the future. what they need to do is what Stern suggested and make the Olympics the youth tournament and then save the vets (if they want to play) for the WC.

there's some good young basketball talent out there and they just need time to develop. the next Ginobili, Dirk and Parker are out there. watch out for Team Canada.

  

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293. "DAT BEAN"
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Kobe Bryant Helped Team USA Basketball Regain Its Dominance with Single Game
By Ric Bucher , NBA Senior Writer Sep 15, 2014
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2199457-kobe-bryant-helped-team-usa-basketball-regain-its-dominance-with-single-game


Have you noticed? The world just doesn't seem to hate the U.S. men's national basketball team quite the way it once did.

It's understandable, seeing as our demeanor isn't as hate-inspiring. There was a time when we showed up thinking that the names on the backs of the jerseys, as much as the three letters on the front, would take care of business. The world noticed, ultimately made us pay for that arrogance and reveled in seeing it.

That was then. USA's basketball dominance has been reestablished now. If there was any question, the just-completed romp in the FIBA World Cup for another gold medal answered it. While the names on the back were still notable, none served as the cornerstone of every victory.

It was a collective, mix-and-match effort. And while this year's squad apparently drew inspiration from hearing that Spain was favored over it in some circles, the reason the U.S. can once again claim undisputed rights to the basketball throne is because we, as a basketball nation, showed some respect, not because we were deprived of it.

That much is clear. The current national program works harder, prepares better and, arguably, cares more. Who deserves the most credit for creating this new image, not only within the program but also to the world at large?

The answer, at least for some, is the man who is not exactly known for readily acknowledging that anyone is on his level: Kobe Bean Bryant.

Tony Ronzone, longtime international scout, current player personnel director for the Dallas Mavericks and former Team USA executive, believes Sunday's success, along with every other international triumph over the last seven years, can be traced back to the first quarter of Group B's final game in the 2007 FIBA Americas in Las Vegas, Nevada.

That's when Bryant, having asked for the challenge of stopping the tournament's leading scorer to that point, Brazil's Leandro Barbosa, hounded Barbosa into losing his dribble and then dove onto the floor to retrieve the ball near midcourt.

"I swear that was the turning point," says Ronzone. "You saw the best player in the world at that time sacrificing his body for a loose ball. That turned us. Great players can play that way. It's looking in the mirror and saying, 'We have to play that way.'"

Team USA had not been playing that way in, well, forever. The first several iterations of the Dream Team didn't need to go all out because the talent disparity was too great. The difference shrunk as the honor of playing lost its appeal and the NBA's top stars began ducking out. The program squeaked by for a couple more gold medals while slapping together the biggest names the program could attract, but it all unraveled in 2002 in heart-of-USA-basketball Indianapolis at the FIBA championships.

The team was awash with bad body language. Paul Pierce and coach George Karl were feuding. Baron Davis wasn't happy about his role coming off the bench behind Andre Miller. Several of the big men—Elton Brand, Ben Wallace, Antonio Davis—weren't great fits for the international game. It would all amount to three shocking losses and a sixth-place finish.

"There were 12 private limos waiting to get out of town as soon as they lost," said one NBA general manager, describing the collective attitude of the squad.

Larry Brown, coach of the 2004 Olympic team, recognized that the program no longer could simply invite the best available players but had to develop a deep pool of candidates and make them earn spots on the roster.

Director Jerry Colangelo heeded the advice, inviting dozens of players to training camp, supposedly with no guarantees. It was a way of acknowledging that the world had caught up to us, but it was a quiet way.

There was nothing quiet about Bryant's approach, though. He fully acknowledged that he studied a copious amount of carefully selected tape of Barbosa, pored over statistical tendencies and forfeited any interest in attempting to score on his own. Barbosa, who had been averaging 27 points a game, went 1-of-7 from the field and didn't score against Bryant.

Bryant didn't have to disclose all that preparation. He could've been like scores of Team USA players before him, who suggested their biggest challenge was fighting off ennui or being unfamiliar with the international rules or referees or limited practice time together.

Instead, he approached the game as if Barbosa were Michael Jordan and this were Game 7 in the NBA Finals. It might've been a painful dose of respect, but it was respect nonetheless and more than anyone in a Team USA uniform had shown a foreign opponent maybe ever.

"Coach K would use that play (of Bryant diving for the loose ball), showing a clip of it, to remind everyone that it was 'We, not I,'" said Ronzone, referring to national team coach Mike Krzyzewski.

Coach K is among the other influences that have put the U.S. back on top, to be sure, including a general dissipation of the level of international competition. Some of that is because a few powerhouse national teams have grown old and have been unable to reinvent themselves; some, too, is because the top young players in other countries are more focused on finding their way to the NBA than playing for their countries.

"It used to be so much different globally," said Rich Sheubrooks, who helped organize the Nike Hoop Summit and just retired after serving as director of global scouting for several NBA teams, most recently the Utah Jazz. "I don't think it's the same burning desire that 'I want to play for my country' as it once was. They're looking out for who they are now."

That wasn't as prevalent seven years ago when Bryant earned his floor burns at the Thomas & Mack Center. The thirst for beating the U.S. was strong, and the inherent intimidation factor was gone. Bryant diminished the first and took a step toward restoring the second through the simple act of saying to Barbosa and the rest of the world: "You deserve my full attention. My job now is to make you wish you hadn't."

It won't rank high on Kobe's list of personal achievements. There's a chance it won't be acknowledged at all beyond the 2008 Olympic gold medal it inspired. But considering where the national program is now, seven years later, and how the players within it are approaching their jobs as representatives of USA's basketball preeminence, perhaps it should.


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