5. "POST JACK: What are the most complete trilogies?" In response to Reply # 0
Most trilogies seem to really fall apart in the third movie (X-Men, Spiderman, Blade). Bourne brought it with all three films. For the artsier side, I know that the Red, White, Blue trilogy was supposed to be great with each one. Lord of the Rings? What other trilogies have been able to maintain their quality for all three films?
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25. "The first half of #2 is the only down part of the whole trilogy." In response to Reply # 10
The part where they are looking at all the relatives, and you can feel Zemeckis going, "Look! There's Michael J. Fox in the future! Look! There's Leah Thompson! Look! There's Biff!" It borders on boring.
But once the plot actually kicks in? And when they go back to the original flick and chase through there? Hoooo wee.
7. "RE: Blade Trilogy >>>>> Matrix Trilogy ----->>>agreed!" In response to Reply # 0
i also give it more credit because it showed that comic book films can work and be successful if treated more seriously than films like batman & robin. ------------------------------------------- Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/sets/
The Blade trilogy. How funny. The 1st and 2nd were okay (not the greatest vampire or comic book movie ever). But the 3rd one???? F*cking terrible. So damn awfull. If it wasnt for Wesley Snipes no one would of even watched those movies. Look at the tv series with Sticky Fingaz. LMAO!!! And as far as the Matrix trilogy goes, they didnt need a 2nd or 3rd one. They should of just stopped with the 1st one. Kept fans wondering what would happen next. Film makers get greedy and thats how Trilogys are made. I did not enjoy the 2nd nor 3rd Matrix movies. They were so lame in my opinion. But, the first Matrix movie topples over the entire Blade Trilogy. Single handely. But, if Will Smith would of took the role of Neo (instead of passing on it) it would of made for a better movie. And then maybe i would of enjoyed the ones that followed.
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14. "Will Smith wanted more humor in the script" In response to Reply # 12
I have no problem with The Matrix not including the Will Smith brand of humor which really didn't fit the Neo character in the first film. I'm not so sure if would have been a better film with Will.
32. "i agree that the 3rd was shit. I can barely stand to watch it. But still..." In response to Reply # 12
did his thing in those flicks, and played Blade better than Keanu could ever dream of playing Neo. The supporting cast, and special effects is what makes the first Matrix special. The 2nd was decent. Jet Li was also a top contender for the role of Neo. He would have brought a real authenticity to it. Keanu stays bland every day all day. I rarely think he is appropriately cast in films.
33. "a)You're wrong about Jet Li b) Keanu Reeves was perfect" In response to Reply # 32
Neo is supposed to be super naive, and the ultimate reluctant hero-who-stumbles-on-a-fortune-he didn't ask for...Keanu's blank stares and very generic acting was actually perfect...the character is supposed to be in a daze the entire time, and Keanu was perfect for that.
Jet Li was actually in discussion for the role of the gatekeeper or whoever that asian guy was from part 2...not Neo.
37. "RE: a)You're wrong about Jet Li b) Keanu Reeves was perfect" In response to Reply # 33
thanks for the correction regarding jet.
as far as keanu, the majority of his performance was straight wooden from the jump rather than having been portrayed as nave by design. its not like there was a method to his madness. that wooden performance carried into the two sequels as well. after he should have moved past his non-believer mode. i didn't despise him in the movie. but, i can't credit his performance as perfect, when he is like that in every role.
his execution of martial arts choreography was terrible as well. carrie ann moss and fish did their thing much better. ------------------------------------------- Flickr http://www.flickr.com/photos/chaidealo/sets/
13. "Blade Trinity is the only movie I've ever walked out of" In response to Reply # 0 Fri Jul-18-08 01:18 PM by Jayson Willyams
It wasn't even laughably terrible; it was just insultingly bad.
That said, the third Matrix looked so bad I refused to see it, and I have no problem believing it was as shitty as Blade Trinity.
On a subjective, popcorn-movie-with-sick-effects-that-makes-you-think-a-bit scale:
Matrix - 10 Matrix 2 - 6 (the mushrooms gave everyone's faces a greenish glow, and made it seem like they had crazy-ass worms crawling under the skin. Also, they had me convinced that I understood the plotline completely...) Matrix III - never saw it, but a preemptive hate score of 2.
Blade - 7 Blade II - 8.5 Blade III - 1
The winner: Peter Jackson's "Meet the Feebles" shits on all 6 of these movies, at once.
43. "both blade sequels have much more rewatchability than either matrix" In response to Reply # 18
full disclosure: the first time i saw revelations, on opening day, i thought it was cool shit due to my perception that there were tons of mysteries i couldn't get my head around. on subsequent viewings, no, it's just poorly written and full of holes. revolutions is an atrocity against film making.
the blades? any of those three come on when i'm flipping around and i'm watching them. maybe it comes down to whether you like big special effects battles or hand to hand combat. what is beyond debate is that the human fight scenes in the blades are much better than the last two matrixes.
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that opinion is reasonable. what I don't get is all the people who think the first one is this deep metaphysical masterpiece or something, but then say that the second one is just dumb nonsense.
although admittedly the first movie is just alot sleeker and less flawed & bloated than the second.
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Fri Jul-18-08 06:34 PM
30. "honestly I thought 2 was solid off the freeway chase alone" In response to Reply # 19
i need to see blade 1 again because I wanna say it may have aged better than Matrix 1. I say the second installments are close to a wash and Blade 3 wins outright, though it was garbation.
>yeah there was alot of dumb shit in it, but lots of good >stuff too: > >Trinity crashing through skyscraper window & bucking shots >back at agent as they fall = fiya > >albino twins = fiya > >freeway chase = fiya > >monica belluci's titties = fiya > > >I mean cmon. > >
both definitely have their flaws and their strong points. blade may get the edge just because of snipes over keanu, though the matrix had a more compelling villain.
in terms of pure action, i always thought the first two blades were underrated in the pantheon of action films.
one thing BOTH films did, though, was let the audience actually WATCH the fight sequences. none of the close-cut jerky camerawork.
44. "edit: i'm really the only one who doesn't hate blade 3?" In response to Reply # 0 Sat Jul-19-08 01:58 PM by bshelly
i mean, it's not good, but if it comes on and flipping through channels i'll watch it. the action is fine and the plot barely hangs together, which is more than you can say about either of the last two matrixes.
---- bshelly
"You (Fisher) could get fired, Les Snead could get fired, Kevin Demoff could get fired, but I will always be Eric Dickerson.” (c) The God
The first movie in both trilogies were the best. Remembering those movies kept me going back for additional disappointment in the following movies. I never read the Blade comic book so everything was new to me. Stephen Dorff was a great villian. Blade 2 was good but that last one was awful. The Matrix was just exciting with the special effects and action despite Keanu Reeves. His best and most believable role was in Bill and Teds Excellent Adventure. Every other role has been has been outside his acting ability but I didnt mind him as Neo. The storylines became predictable. What really bothered me was when Neo lost his eyesight. I was thinking is this the Matrix or Dune (Paul Atreides lost his vision). I guess it didnt help that I was reading the Dune series at that time. Even with the awfulness of Blade Trinity, I rank the Blade trilogy better than the Matrix trilogy.
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