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"Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)"
Mon Jul-06-20 10:49 AM by mista k5

  

          

https://genius.com/albums/Black-thought/Streams-of-thought-vol-3-cain-and-abel

1 I'm Not Crazy (First Contact)
2 State Prisoner
3 Good Morning (Ft. Killer Mike, Pusha T & Swizz Beatz)
4 Magnificent
5 Experience (Interlude)
6 Quiet Trip (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal. The Man)
7 Nature of the Beast (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal. The Man)
8 We Should Be Good (Ft. C.S. Armstrong)
9 Steak Um (Ft. ScHoolboy Q)
10 Thought vs. Everybody
11 Ghetto Boyz & Girls (Ft. C.S. Armstrong)
12 Fuel (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal. The Man)
13 I'm Not Crazy (Outro)

  

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RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)
Jul 06th 2020
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I don’t really hold these projects to the same scrutiny as albums
Jul 06th 2020
2
RE: I don’t really hold these projects to the same scrutiny as albums
Jul 06th 2020
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      I think I remember quest saying 3 is the best one
Jul 06th 2020
11
RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)
Jul 06th 2020
3
RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)
Jul 06th 2020
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RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)
Jul 06th 2020
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RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)
Jul 13th 2020
23
yeah most of those arent really features to me
Jul 08th 2020
16
Its Okay, Player. You tryna review it before you hear it?
Jul 13th 2020
21
      speculating about a project isn't reviewing it though
Jul 13th 2020
22
here for it.
Jul 06th 2020
4
Yesssss!!
Jul 06th 2020
5
He debuted a few of these tracks in his Tiny Desk concert in April
Jul 06th 2020
6
RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)
Jul 06th 2020
9
damn.. don't really want features on a Black Thought LP...
Jul 07th 2020
12
If he’s going for features, I want G Rap level
Jul 07th 2020
13
until he gives me a reason not to, i am excited for any new black though...
Jul 07th 2020
14
If i remember correctly Quest said 3 was insane
Jul 08th 2020
15
I Hope This Will Have Some Replay Value To It
Jul 08th 2020
17
RE: I Hope This Will Have Some Replay Value To It
Jul 09th 2020
18
Thought vs everybody LINK
Jul 09th 2020
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Maybe it'll sound better when I hear the beat with headphones on
Jul 10th 2020
20
Thought Vs Everybody VIDEO
Jul 19th 2020
24
^^^^^^ Video is greatness
Jul 21st 2020
32
      yes indeed
Jul 21st 2020
33
I'll listen as long as it isn't an EP
Jul 19th 2020
25
Shit, I WILL!
Jul 19th 2020
26
I love the EP/short LP era we’re in
Jul 19th 2020
28
      But albums don't need to have sub-par content
Jul 20th 2020
29
      the ep/lp distinction doesn't really make sense any more
Jul 20th 2020
30
      RE: I love the EP/short LP era we’re in
Jul 20th 2020
31
This is such a weird take
Jul 19th 2020
27
weird is one word for it
Jul 21st 2020
34
It is one the stupidest things I've ever heard. Even on the lesson.
Jul 21st 2020
35
I think this is a battle b/w streamers and LP listeners
Jul 21st 2020
36
i wonder if he means EP like a few songs from an upcoming album
Jul 22nd 2020
41
i've seen you mention this distain for EP's over the years..
Jul 22nd 2020
37
      what are we even talking about tho?
Jul 22nd 2020
38
      Right. If Thought had called it an LP...
Jul 22nd 2020
39
      i'm just speaking on his dislike of EPs..
Jul 22nd 2020
44
      May the Lord Watch had some of the best skits of all time
Jul 22nd 2020
40
           yeah
Jul 22nd 2020
42
                Great point on Skyzoo’s album
Jul 22nd 2020
43
delayed, but for good reason?
Jul 30th 2020
45
I just wanna hear Thought and Malik man...
Jul 30th 2020
46
Disappointing.
Jul 30th 2020
47
I mean...he just lost one of his former band members...
Jul 30th 2020
48
Guessing it'z cuz of Malik.
Jul 30th 2020
49
That's my speculation. Or prolly waiting till after his Janazah
Jul 31st 2020
50
I was expecting this when the news of Malik hit
Jul 31st 2020
51
new single coming friday
Aug 24th 2020
52
Good Morning (Ft. Killer Mike, Pusha T & Swizz Beatz) (Links)
Aug 28th 2020
53
!!!!
Aug 28th 2020
54
dope
Aug 28th 2020
55
Drops next week (9/25) according to this interview
Sep 18th 2020
56
and vol 4 already in the bag:
Sep 18th 2020
57
So happy for 14kt.
Sep 18th 2020
58
If he’s ready to take on all challenges...
Sep 18th 2020
59
I mean...I'm cool with the EPs...I have full Roots albums with him
Sep 24th 2020
60
Roots albums are filled with guests...tired of that shit
Sep 25th 2020
61
      RE: Roots albums are filled with guests...tired of that shit
Sep 28th 2020
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           It’s all perspective really
Sep 28th 2020
68
                If this is about BT solo, it's misleading leaving out Malik B
Sep 28th 2020
72
                     He’s on about 6-7 songs on those...
Sep 28th 2020
73
play two of them back to back then
Sep 25th 2020
62
doesnt look like it dropped yet
Sep 25th 2020
63
      i think it was delayed another week
Sep 25th 2020
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           RE: i think it was delayed another week
Sep 25th 2020
65
Shit is dope.
Sep 28th 2020
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? how did you hear it?
Sep 28th 2020
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      Reviewing it
Sep 28th 2020
70
14kt
Sep 28th 2020
71
the album he did with Mayer Hawthorne is sick
Sep 29th 2020
74
1Xfor14KT
Sep 29th 2020
75
Uhh when is this coming out?
Oct 02nd 2020
76
RE: Uhh when is this coming out?
Oct 02nd 2020
77
Today according to Black Thought's social media
Oct 03rd 2020
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      :/
Oct 04th 2020
79
      can you link where he announced the album coming 10/03?
Oct 05th 2020
84
So, was this cancelled or what?
Oct 04th 2020
80
This is a really bad way to drop an album, if he ever does
Oct 04th 2020
81
eh
Oct 05th 2020
82
"No one will care" is a bit hyperbolic, but I agree this is disappointin...
Oct 05th 2020
83
Yeah, just seems off-brand for someone with such a no B.S. rep
Oct 05th 2020
85
Agreed....and it makes no sense
Oct 05th 2020
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?? This happens all the time and yes people will care
Oct 05th 2020
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      Agreed.
Oct 05th 2020
88
Good Morning (Ft. Killer Mike, Pusha T & Swizz Beatz)
Oct 07th 2020
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Post 53 bruh
Oct 07th 2020
90
      I overlooked it
Oct 07th 2020
91
10/16 according to Thought's twitter
Oct 08th 2020
92
this one i believe
Oct 09th 2020
93
      yeah
Oct 09th 2020
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FUCK YEAH!!!
Oct 16th 2020
95
Can’t pretend those 3 middle songs shoulda been cut
Oct 18th 2020
103
      One of my fav songs on here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Oct 18th 2020
105
Very good album...
Oct 16th 2020
96
im going to have to play this again
Oct 16th 2020
97
Fire. Absolute fire.
Oct 16th 2020
98
I must say...
Oct 16th 2020
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The delay was about the signing to Republic Records as a solo artist
Oct 19th 2020
107
      In this interview Thought says the passing of Malik was part of the dela...
Oct 21st 2020
112
The delays likely had to do with sample clearance issues
Oct 16th 2020
100
i didn't care for what i heard on first listen, but that doesn't mean mu...
Oct 17th 2020
101
RE: i didn't care for what i heard on first listen, but that doesn't mea...
Oct 17th 2020
102
This shit flames
Oct 18th 2020
104
This Album is a light shining in the darkness
Oct 19th 2020
106
i accidentally bought the Clean version. FML
Oct 20th 2020
108
RE: i accidentally bought the Clean version. FML
Oct 21st 2020
110
Qobuz.com!! They’re a Hi-Res site. Got SOTV3 in hi-res FLAC!!
Oct 22nd 2020
127
RE: What do you all think of the song?
Oct 22nd 2020
118
It's a throwback album because it rewards relistens
Oct 20th 2020
109
prefer vol 2 but this is growing on me
Oct 21st 2020
111
RE: Pusha T
Oct 22nd 2020
119
      that seems like props if anything
Oct 22nd 2020
120
           I took the setup as...Push saying he has to do features
Oct 22nd 2020
122
Thought said on Hot 97 collab album w/ Danger Mouse next year
Oct 21st 2020
113
I forgot Danger Mouse existed.
Oct 21st 2020
114
He said it isn’t part of the series
Oct 21st 2020
116
pretty sure this has been in the works since the DangerDoom
Oct 21st 2020
117
Obviously there's no news about this project
Oct 21st 2020
115
Anyone know if vinyl is on the way? n/m
Oct 22nd 2020
121
they didn't do physicals
Oct 22nd 2020
123
      i hope so, would love to add them to the collection
Oct 22nd 2020
124
this is growing on me
Oct 22nd 2020
125
agreed on vol 2
Oct 22nd 2020
126

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1. "RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)"
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>1 I'm Not Crazy (First Contact)
>2 State Prisoner
>3 Good Morning (Ft. Killer Mike, Pusha T & Swizz Beatz)
>4 Magnificent
>5 Experience (Interlude)
>6 Quiet Trip (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal. The Man)
>7 Nature of the Beast (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal.
>The Man)
>8 We Should Be Good (Ft. C.S. Armstrong)
>9 Steak Um (Ft. ScHoolboy Q)
>10 Thought vs. Everybody
>11 Ghetto Boyz & Girls (Ft. C.S. Armstrong)
>12 Fuel (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal. The Man)
>13 I'm Not Crazy (Outro)

That's a strange list of features (imo).

I should probably(?0 be more excited about "Good Morning" but I'm not.

And Sean C producing the whole thing? Am I missing something?

I don't know... I was liking the tighter focus of the last two volumes with few features letting Thought 100% shine. Overanalyzing a tracklist is easy to do but this one isn't jumping out at me.

-thebigfunk

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2. "I don’t really hold these projects to the same scrutiny as albums"
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Mon Jul-06-20 12:09 PM by seandammit

          

They’re more like lyrical exercises, sometimes in the form of a song and sometimes just a long verse. Over production that we really haven’t heard him over. So as long as this features Thought rapping his ass off and beats that don’t immediately register as “the Roots,” fine by me

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7. "RE: I don’t really hold these projects to the same scrutiny as albums"
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> So as long as this
>features Thought rapping his ass off and beats that don’t
>immediately register as “the Roots,” fine by me

I'm mostly here too -- I just want vol 3 to be as tight as the first two.

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11. "I think I remember quest saying 3 is the best one"
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We’ll see.

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3. "RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)"
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Mon Jul-06-20 12:12 PM by mrhood75

  

          

>
>>1 I'm Not Crazy (First Contact)
>>2 State Prisoner
>>3 Good Morning (Ft. Killer Mike, Pusha T & Swizz Beatz)
>>4 Magnificent
>>5 Experience (Interlude)
>>6 Quiet Trip (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal. The
>Man)
>>7 Nature of the Beast (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr &
>Portugal.
>>The Man)
>>8 We Should Be Good (Ft. C.S. Armstrong)
>>9 Steak Um (Ft. ScHoolboy Q)
>>10 Thought vs. Everybody
>>11 Ghetto Boyz & Girls (Ft. C.S. Armstrong)
>>12 Fuel (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal. The Man)
>>13 I'm Not Crazy (Outro)
>
>That's a strange list of features (imo).

C.S. Armstrong is a musician. And Portugal, The Man is a psych rock band (The Lastful Artful, Dodgr is a rapper affiliated with them).

So I'd guess that Good Morning and Steak 'Um are the only tracks that feature guest verses.

>And Sean C producing the whole thing? Am I missing something?

Dude is dope producer. Him and LV produced a lot of dope shit for Def Jam during the late '00s and early '10s. And he did Joell Ortiz's "Put Some Money On It" is one of my favorite tracks of the last 10 years.

And, you know, it's Black Thought. I'm figuring that it's going to be dope until proven otherwise.

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8. "RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)"
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>
>C.S. Armstrong is a musician. And Portugal, The Man is a psych
>rock band (The Lastful Artful, Dodgr is a rapper affiliated
>with them).

Fair -- I didn't know CS Armstrong at all. I'm familiar with Portugal... (but not overly so), and have seen the name Last Artful... but don't think I've checked her out yet. I guess it all just seemed like an odd assortment.

>Dude is dope producer. Him and LV produced a lot of dope shit
>for Def Jam during the late '00s and early '10s. And he did
>Joell Ortiz's "Put Some Money On It" is one of my favorite
>tracks of the last 10 years.

Fair again - just if I were drafting a list of producers I'd want to do a whole project with Thought, I honestly don't think I'd have come up with him at all. (But as said elsewhere, maybe that's the point.)

But it's Black Thought so there's little doubt it will come off right at this point.

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10. "RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)"
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>Fair again - just if I were drafting a list of producers I'd
>want to do a whole project with Thought, I honestly don't
>think I'd have come up with him at all. (But as said
>elsewhere, maybe that's the point.)

The way I figure it, I wouldn't thought (pun intended) I wanted a Black Thought/Salaam Remi project. But I loved the results. And in this case, Sean C has produced something for The Roots before (The Stomp off of undun)

>But it's Black Thought so there's little doubt it will come
>off right at this point.

I'm right here too.

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23. "RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)"
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>>C.S. Armstrong is a musician.
>
>Fair -- I didn't know CS Armstrong at all.

C.S. Armstrong is a singer. Damn good one too.

https://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/hip-hop/8500473/cs-armstrong-truth-be-told-album-premiere

https://open.spotify.com/artist/6MxR3Hjf2uTSew9wmKbOwO?si=PiyHihy0TvGINJ0heIHTWw

  

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16. "yeah most of those arent really features to me"
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just more people playing music for him to rap to, id assume

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21. "Its Okay, Player. You tryna review it before you hear it?"
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I should put that in a song

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22. "speculating about a project isn't reviewing it though"
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As long as you know that the project is the project and once it's out you have to take it on its own merits - not what you think it should or shouldn't be - speculating on a project's potential *before* it's out is perfectly legit.

Besides, this is okp -- groundless speculation is practically mandatory, lol.

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4. "here for it."
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5. "Yesssss!!"
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cant wait. really need some new Thought!


The Last Artful, dodgr is really dope btw. she got a style all her own

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6. "He debuted a few of these tracks in his Tiny Desk concert in April"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u12r_JI8mGM

Thought Vs. Everybody and Nature of the Beast.

Thought Vs. Everybody in particular is FIRE.

  

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9. "RE: Streams of Thought Vol. 3: Cain and Abel (July 31st)"
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Hyped for this, appreciate the info...

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12. "damn.. don't really want features on a Black Thought LP..."
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....unless it's one of the 10 or so MCs alive that can hang with him


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13. "If he’s going for features, I want G Rap level"
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If he’s gonna have features, I wanna see him barring up with people who can give him a run for his money like G Rap, Kxng Crooked, Casual etc. Not the same guests everyone else gets

  

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mista k5
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14. "until he gives me a reason not to, i am excited for any new black though..."
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even if this one isnt as good as the previous two i am excited to hear it. pretty sure i will be looking forward to vol 4 too. from what i understand these are meant to be in the moment type of projects. i expect different vibes and unexpected collaborations. some might not match my ideal black thought tracks but if its what hes feeling then im listening.

only concern i have is that quest was hyping this up when vol 2 dropped and a lot of time has passed. i dont know how similar this vol 3 is to what quest was expecting back then.

i would bet on black thought having some great surprises for us over disappointments.

  

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15. "If i remember correctly Quest said 3 was insane"
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i think when 2 came out he mentioned this one. Cant wait.

  

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17. "I Hope This Will Have Some Replay Value To It"
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Personally I've kind of fell out of love with The Roots for a while now and Blackthought hasn't excited me in a while, his flow has become regular fanfare to me, I expect him to spit but his topics and punchlines & etc. are so mediocre to what I be wanting but that's just me.

I thought the first two projects were decent but neither of them had mea wanting to go back to them after the first initial listen, not sure what he needs to do to bring life back into his flows & rhymes but hopefully this will be the one since Mr. 15 had rumored to have said this was the best one, but is that really saying much since I didn't care for the last few Roots albums either?


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18. "RE: I Hope This Will Have Some Replay Value To It"
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>and Blackthought hasn't excited me in a while, his
>flow has become regular fanfare to me, I expect him to spit
>but his topics and punchlines & etc. are so mediocre to what I
>be wanting but that's just me.
>
>I thought the first two projects were decent but neither of
>them had mea wanting to go back to them after the first
>initial listen,

Whatever folks think about the last few Roots projects, it seems indisputable to me that Thought has *brought it* on these EPs. I mean, each to his own but some of these tracks count among his absolute best to me. I can listen to either of the first two tracks (Twofifteen, 9th vs Thought) from volume 1 on repeat all day and the whole of volume 2 is just great with several lyrical standouts. Was disappointed in the mix and some production on volume 1 but that is legit my only complaint.

If he keeps up that streak, I'm totally good.


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19. "Thought vs everybody LINK"
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just dropped on YT

https://youtu.be/IQmJCim_PTY

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20. "Maybe it'll sound better when I hear the beat with headphones on"
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But on my phone, it sounds kind of basic and very monotonous. Thought sounds dope lyrically tho....

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24. "Thought Vs Everybody VIDEO"
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https://youtu.be/Pv0jU0ccUGQ

....they found a clever way to make a vid for a song with no chorus IMO. Looking forward to the project.

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32. "^^^^^^ Video is greatness"
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33. "yes indeed"
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25. "I'll listen as long as it isn't an EP"
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I don't do EPs

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26. "Shit, I WILL!"
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Dope beats.
Dope rhymes.
One of the best to EVER do it?
Sign me up.

And I LOOOOVE EP's.
You're gonna give me a complete 18-24 minutes of heat?
Yes! I don't got time for average songs just to make a full LP.
I got shit to do.

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28. "I love the EP/short LP era we’re in "
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Trim the fat. Don’t give me redundant songs. Don’t follow the something for everybody formula. Just give us that focused heat!

  

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29. "But albums don't need to have sub-par content"
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An artist can just not do that, as countless other artists before have done.

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30. "the ep/lp distinction doesn't really make sense any more"
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It came more out of physical limitations (and expectations) than anything else. Calling something an EP now basically just means it's on the shorter side but I've seen folks calling everything from 3 songs/8 minutes to 8 to 10 songs/30+ minutes an "ep" -- the range is pretty wide.

Which, by consequence, doesn't say anything about how developed/cohesive the material is. Thought's second volume was 9 tracks, 23 minutes -- a single producer with a very cohesive sound on both the production and the lyrical end. It felt like an album regardless of its length. Kota's Lyrics to Go was similar to me, although in some ways that felt more like a fully-developed mixtape (due to the short track lengths)... but again, the distinction becomes semantics at a certain point.

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31. "RE: I love the EP/short LP era we’re in "
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I love it too --- it might be one of my favorite things about music right now.

Which is actually surprising because for a long time I really loved long, immersive albums and sort of held them on a pedestal.

I still do to a degree. But there's also something about a really focused shorter project that can be just as impressive. Some of my favorite recent albums fall more in the "ep" category but they feel like fully-developed albums.


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27. "This is such a weird take"
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34. "weird is one word for it"
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asinine is another
esp since the tracklist is literally in the OP

  

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35. "It is one the stupidest things I've ever heard. Even on the lesson. "
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Dude is willing to deny theyself good music because of
the institution of the EP


I mean, good god


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36. "I think this is a battle b/w streamers and LP listeners"
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If you stream music and depend on playlists and shuffles,
then you're probably dependent on quantity. You want more new music.

If you listen to albums from top to bottom and look at an LP as a single piece of work,
then it's about the quality of the project as a whole.

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41. "i wonder if he means EP like a few songs from an upcoming album"
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i usually saw EPs as being a promo piece for an upcoming album. so it might have a couple songs that were going to end up on the full album, maybe some remixes or loosies. in that case yeah, i would rather wait for the full album.

most EPs now are stand-alone projects that just have shorter run times though. based on the track list i would guess this will be a full length album by any standard.

so yeah, im confused on the stance as well.

  

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37. "i've seen you mention this distain for EP's over the years.. "
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..I kind of get it ..if you can make an EP, just add 2 more songs, an intro and a skit or 2 and make it an LP

..The way you feel about EP's is kind of how i feel about any kind of skit these days ..complete waste aside from maybe Prince Paul whos the master of that shit.


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38. "what are we even talking about tho?"
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this ISN'T EVEN AN EP lolol
we can all see the tracklist in the OP right??

  

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39. "Right. If Thought had called it an LP..."
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...he wouldn't have known the difference.

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44. "i'm just speaking on his dislike of EPs.. "
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...i'm not saying this one is an EP

  

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40. "May the Lord Watch had some of the best skits of all time"
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I’m mostly off skits too, but there are exceptions. All of those ones served a purpose to the album and had me cracking up.

  

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42. "yeah"
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it helps that their skits have been such a big part of their story, though. i agree that the vast majority for other artists could be dropped and most albums would be the better for it.

(edit: LB's skits are actually engaging/funny/thoughtful, too -- i still listen to most of them and laugh; that's outside the norm for sure)

i'm also pretty tired of spoken bits from interviews/field recordings/movie snippets -- they can be really effective when used well but most of the time they have limited replay value, especially when their being used to make a larger cultural/political statement. skyzoo's retropolitan had only 1 flaw and that was putting two of those things IN A ROW, AS THE OPENING OF THE WHOLE ALBUM. totally unnecessary, minimal contribution to the record as a whole.



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43. "Great point on Skyzoo’s album"
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Couldn’t agree more. I was just listening to Glorious the other day and thought the same thing. It would be better if they made it a separate track, if they really want to include it.

  

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45. "delayed, but for good reason?"
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A new Roots album? Just thinking out loud.


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46. "I just wanna hear Thought and Malik man..."
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Just hoping that has something to do with it.

Love them as a duo.

  

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47. "Disappointing."
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I'm going home to MO next week and it would have been cool to focus solely on the album while traveling.

But it'll get here soon enough.

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48. "I mean...he just lost one of his former band members..."
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So I understand the delay...

Would be crazy if they drop The Roots album now...

They have been sitting on it for a while I would guess...

  

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49. "Guessing it'z cuz of Malik."
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Also hoping maybe it's delayed to add an old, previously unreleased track WITH Malik ? Maybe ? Hopefully ?!?! PLEASE ??

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50. "That's my speculation. Or prolly waiting till after his Janazah"
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to pay respects.

I actually really think that could be the top reason why he decided to push it back, obv I'm not him, but that's something I would do.

*edit*

Because I'm sure there were lots of editorials/interviews sitting and waiting to be published for Vol. 3 that had to have been made before his passing. What would it look like if all that were released and BT's responses never mentioned Malik B.? I'm wondering if that's apart of it too. Adding to or redoing (idk how likely that is, prolly NOT) interviews or any kind of press, just so Tariq can give his brother Malik his respects each time.

Again, speculators gone speculate.
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51. "I was expecting this when the news of Malik hit"
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I was surprised I had not heard of a delay. Checked for the album last night and didn't find it. Then I saw the announcement.

I'll be waiting for it just as eager whenever it drops.

  

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52. "new single coming friday"
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per this interview:

"Produced by Sean C (of the producer duo Sean C and LV), the bold, bright “Streams of Thought Vol. 3” album will be slotted for release in the coming months, preceded by the single “Good Morning,” featuring Killer Mike, Pusha T and Swizz Beatz, on August 28."

thought explains the track is featuring swizz but is produced by sean c.

he also mentions that end game is still coming and again hypes it up.

https://variety.com/2020/music/news/black-thought-rapper-interview-roots-tarik-trotter-1234743092/

  

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53. "Good Morning (Ft. Killer Mike, Pusha T & Swizz Beatz) (Links)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h8UGarVsZsE
https://open.spotify.com/track/7evTceKtCaBbxoLIqICIVh?si=O4oj_kDJRRGtpoqiGpwkFw

  

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54. "!!!!"
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55. "dope"
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56. "Drops next week (9/25) according to this interview"
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https://level.medium.com/black-thought-is-loved-and-feared-by-your-favorite-rapper-89e179cf3b3f

  

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57. "and vol 4 already in the bag:"
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Talk about Streams of Thought, Vol. 4, which is already complete. Who’s the sole producer?

14KT, a producer from Detroit who now resides outside of L.A. There are so many classics on Vol. 4., just because of the mindset I went into recording the Streams of Thought series. I’m so far ahead of my time that I will never not have a couple finished albums in the clip ready to be put out. Streams of Thought, Vol. 4 probably has the most features I’ve ever done on any project. I have features with the usual suspects like Pharoahe Monch and Yasiin Bey — I even have Redman and Fabulous on there for the East Coast sensibilities — but then I have Tobe Nwigwe, Big KRIT, Currensy, Rick Ross, and J.I.D. Everyone ain’t gonna get an opportunity to jump on a joint with me. You have to be able to hold your own, and it has to feel seamless. That’s what Streams of Thought, Vol. 4 is. I listened to it this morning. It’s only 30 minutes, but it’s crazy.

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58. "So happy for 14kt."
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He's gonna get so much attention for that project whenever it drops.

Also new Mos Def verses are hard to come by these days....wanna hear that the most.

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59. "If he’s ready to take on all challenges..."
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Then how about we get an official solo LP instead of these 30 min joints?

I’m cool with these but damn, can I get an actual album.

It’s like the one notch on his belt he’s missing and he seemingly just refuses to lock in.

Just like that Nas/Preemo albums...Nas/AZ album. There’s certain shit, I guess as an ignorant fan, just doesn’t make sense as to why it hasn’t happened.

  

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60. "I mean...I'm cool with the EPs...I have full Roots albums with him"
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Within a 2 year span...he released 2 EPs with another on the way...and all three of them had more Black Thought verses than the last Roots album.

  

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61. "Roots albums are filled with guests...tired of that shit"
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Legit...best MC to live...don’t need these other cats on tracks with him.

Roots albums should reserve guests for other great MCs at this point.

Not Dice, Truck, Porn and the others.

And nothing against them dudes...I like them.

But there’s levels to this shit

  

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66. "RE: Roots albums are filled with guests...tired of that shit"
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>Legit...best MC to live...don’t need these other cats on
>tracks with him.
>
>Roots albums should reserve guests for other great MCs at this
>point.
>
>Not Dice, Truck, Porn and the others.
>
>And nothing against them dudes...I like them.
>
>But there’s levels to this shit

I remember Truck getting mad AF when I said that here....

  

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68. "It’s all perspective really"
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The Roots albums since TFA have been kept to 13 or less tracks. Maybe Rising Down had 14.

And that’s cool because I don’t love long albums.

However, if you’re going to make that decisions then you can’t fill the album with multiple guest spots from Truck, Porn, and Dice. It just becomes a mix tape at that point.

I’ve also heard on here that Roots albums have always had a lot of guests, which I don’t believe to be true but even if it was, the percentage of time they took up was just less due to the albums being longer.

Illadelph has;
6 - Dice
7 - Bahamadia
11 - Mars & Dice
12 - Common
17 - Q-Tip

That’s 6 MCs on 5 songs out of a total of 20 tracks. Obviously I’m not counting singers because that doesn’t take away verses from Thought which is what this is about.

With that said, we also have not only verses but also hooks being taken away from Thought decreasing his time even more.

TFA has;
6 - ELO
8 - Dice
9 - Mos
10 - Common
13 - Beans & Dice

Which is exactly the same 6 guests over 5 songs.

And again, nothing against Truck or Porn...the latter has had some dope ass verses which I would definitely keep 1 guest spot per album for him, but we have come to expect guests on Roots albums to be more along the lines of Double Trouble and Love Of My Life which are potentially the best back-to-back songs on any of their albums. All time classic shit right there.

This doesn’t mean I want the same guests but damn, just be more selective and keep Thought the focus. Perhaps they just want to give the others some shine but I’m assuming they could do that by working on their albums and not turning The Roots albums into a block party.

I remember as soon as I opened The Firm album in 97 and looked through the booklet...prior to hearing the album, I told my boy... “I don’t know about this one man” because I saw the line up. Nature and Dre. Foxy solo. Pretty Boy and Foxy. Wizard. Nature solo. Canibus and Nore feature (which were dope). AZ and Half-A-Mil track. The reason we fucking copped the album was to hear Nas and AZ on the same tracks. That’s it. And that didn’t happen and the result were terrible. I’ll take Foxy and Nature on every song with them...but you AT LEAST need to have those two together on the majority of tracks.

Maybe it’s me being picky but I really think after Game Theory, they really didn’t capitalize on what was potentially their most interesting work.

  

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72. "If this is about BT solo, it's misleading leaving out Malik B"
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You reference non-Roots emcees' guest spots, but fail to mention that Malib B is on the majority of songs on Illadelph and TFA. So post-TFA Root albums may have more guests, but not necessarily less Thought (per song)

  

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73. "He’s on about 6-7 songs on those..."
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But to me, BT and Malik *are* The Roots.

These other dudes ain’t on that level

  

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62. "play two of them back to back then"
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*eyeroll*

  

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63. "doesnt look like it dropped yet"
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64. "i think it was delayed another week"
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:(

Might be for the best, there's a lot of stuff dropping today

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65. "RE: i think it was delayed another week"
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yeah i saw yesterday that it was listed as 10/2 in this article/interview

https://consequenceofsound.net/2020/09/this-must-be-the-gig-the-roots-black-thought/

  

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67. "Shit is dope. "
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Very different than the previous two.

Imma leave it at that.

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69. "? how did you hear it?"
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Different as in...more eclectic?

  

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70. "Reviewing it"
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But, yes, the beats are more eclectic, especially beat-wise. Sonically, they're very different from Vol. 1 and Vol. 2.

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71. "14kt"
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Is a sick producer. He has a live set he did in LA a few months ago that has monsters in it. Definitely a go to producer for me.

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74. "the album he did with Mayer Hawthorne is sick"
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Jaded Incorporated
saw them perform it live too

  

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75. "1Xfor14KT"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ODGDin0jncc

still one of my favorite jawns!!!

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76. "Uhh when is this coming out?"
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I know Black's on a label now.....it that what is holding things up?

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77. "RE: Uhh when is this coming out?"
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Not sure - with the two of three interviews hes done, I would have assumed it was lined up and ready to go. Maybe some last minute clearance issues or something? Just checked his Twitter and nothing.

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78. "Today according to Black Thought's social media"
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10/3/20

  

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79. ":/"
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Not seeing anything out there yet...

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84. "can you link where he announced the album coming 10/03?"
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only thing i saw was "JOY" was coming 10/03. no idea what that meant and havent seen anything.

  

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80. "So, was this cancelled or what?"
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81. "This is a really bad way to drop an album, if he ever does"
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I understand the first delay, but there's been at least 2-3 since then, and it's getting to the point where no one is going to care about this anymore.

  

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82. "eh"
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>I understand the first delay, but there's been at least 2-3
>since then, and it's getting to the point where no one is
>going to care about this anymore.

I don't think there's any huge loss here in terms of fans or anything. At most it's a bit aggravating. It will come when it comes.



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83. ""No one will care" is a bit hyperbolic, but I agree this is disappointin..."
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teetering on unacceptable in 2020. This is the kind of shit that used to fly in the 2000s, but in 2020 rappers are announcing release dates, dropping a single and dropping the full project in a 10 day span.

This is a Kanye rollout without all the noise that comes with it.

  

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85. "Yeah, just seems off-brand for someone with such a no B.S. rep"
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86. "Agreed....and it makes no sense"
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Though given the current climate, I don’t really care. So much music I can easily access.....my day is never really ruined if something like this happens.

At least there’s a Thought verse on that new WestSide Gunn. Maybe he didn’t want to drop the same day as that? Let that feature cook for a week or two and then drop?

  

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87. "?? This happens all the time and yes people will care"
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As fans, we need to pump the breaks on thinking we are entitled to art from artists on our timeline, etc.

I'm sure there are reasons- maybe tweaks, maybe samples, maybe Malik B related, etc.

After all the joy BT has given us, we can't forgive a few delays?

Jay Elect just dropped an 8-13 year delayed album, and people care. A lot.


Should he have just dropped it when its done? Probably. But, obviously, the delays- whatever they may- were not predictable.

  

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88. "Agreed."
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Whether its label drama or simply BT getting steady from Malik B, the extra time is meant to make sure the album (and BT) is as dope as possible.

In the end, we won't remember if the album was a few weeks late, just that it was flames or not.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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89. "Good Morning (Ft. Killer Mike, Pusha T & Swizz Beatz)"
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https://open.spotify.com/album/4j4HCie37pZHJ0YtqKSHti?si=QYubNqOtQi-dOaPoSRW0tQ

FLAMES! The urgency and intensity of the beat is really well-done. The beatswitch midway is a nice touch and I think the production style of that bridge matched up well with Pusha's sound off of his Kanye album.

Thought was amazing as usual. Wouldn't have expected anything less. I liked Pusha's verse. It would rank third, but all three of these verses were top notch.

And of course Killa Mike brought it.

Can't wait for the album.

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90. "Post 53 bruh"
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91. "I overlooked it"
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Thanks.

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92. "10/16 according to Thought's twitter"
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https://twitter.com/blackthought/status/1314360412972953605

...This and Busta Rhymes at the end of the month is pretty damn awesome.

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93. "this one i believe"
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the other dates had been more speculation than actual announcement. would had been nice if his team had deaded the rumors on the other dates but oh well.

  

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94. "yeah"
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This seems more firm. Looking forward to it!

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95. "FUCK YEAH!!!"
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...and I'm only on Magnificent...

BTdaGOAT.

What's the credit for the cover art?

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103. "Can’t pretend those 3 middle songs shoulda been cut "
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I’m having a hard time thinking of a more...comes to a screeching halt...moment on an album
F’d up part...after reading some of the earlier replies... I was actually expecting it at the intro of the watch me double time rappin’ a$$ song
Which isn’t a bad song per se...but then it happens...BTdaGOAT does that Sesame Street signing a$$ song
Followed by a cringy relationship song
Whoever made the decision to keep those 3 songs should be FIYAH’D!!!
Cut those and it’s the perfect 3rd volume...I’m f’n baffled
Did they push the release...for that?
Jawn’s fire otherwise...but seriously...WTF

Really disappointed with no Malik B tribute
When they pushed after he passed it gave me the impression that was the reason
Yeah, really f’n weird roll out and result

Kinda sours it.

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105. "One of my fav songs on here ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"
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>Followed by a cringy relationship song

  

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96. "Very good album..."
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Definitely my favorite out of the 3 volumes so far....and thats on first listen

  

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97. "im going to have to play this again"
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exceeded expectations. might end up my AOTY. definitely feels like a full album.

  

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98. "Fire. Absolute fire. "
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Today is a good day.

This is the first of the 3 Streams of Thought projects that feels like a cohesive project made with intention. Not that the others were bad, they just felt like little side projects or teasers before the real album.

This is the real album. I almost wish it didn't have the Streams of Thought title and he just called it Cane and Abel, but seriously that's such a meaningless critique and that being the only negative thought I have after two full listens says everything.

Really good stuff. Gonna get a lot of spins this weekend.

  

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99. "I must say..."
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As dope as this project is, I don't know if this project not having some sort of tribute or any mention of the passing of malik b is telling or not.

Just a thought.

  

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107. "The delay was about the signing to Republic Records as a solo artist"
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Not the Malik B passing...

  

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112. "In this interview Thought says the passing of Malik was part of the dela..."
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He addresses it in the first question asked

https://youtu.be/u8FyzdN-Czo

  

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100. "The delays likely had to do with sample clearance issues"
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The O.G. version of "Magnificent" was slightly different than what came out. Originally all the uses of "The magnificent" was the same sample that Special Ed used for "I'm the Magnificent." I like the first version just a little better, but it's still one of the best songs on the album.

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101. "i didn't care for what i heard on first listen, but that doesn't mean mu..."
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i did find myself skipping every song except Good Morning, which I didn't do for the first two volumes, but I still have to listen to this with headphones on.

  

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102. "RE: i didn't care for what i heard on first listen, but that doesn't mea..."
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I'm in this camp. Maybe it will grow on repeated listens

  

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104. "This shit flames"
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You clearly see why he’s on another level that only some are on.

I don’t get the complaints of anything on here.

Shot flows from top to bottom and ISN’T one dimensional which has always been Thoughts’ downfall.

Not saying he does speak on various topics but even when he did it always came off as that same vibe.

This album has more dynamics and actually reminds me of Game Theory to a degree in that it isn’t just one zone.

  

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106. "This Album is a light shining in the darkness"
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I question myself at times, and I know I am not crazy. This album gave me hope in knowing I am not alone or crazy.

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108. "i accidentally bought the Clean version. FML"
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LMFAAAAAOOOOO


but because of that, i only listened once. Waiting to see if I'll be getting a refund and/or the download of the explicit version.

Side note, ever since BT's Tiny Desk earlier this year, I def hated the song "Nature of the Beast". Literally after the first 5 seconds lol. I thought, why not try to listen to it in the context of the album (my first listen-through) and I just couldn't do it. Couldn't get past 30 seconds.

What do you all think of the song?


Other than that, from memory... "Steak Um" might be my 1st favorite from my first listen.
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110. "RE: i accidentally bought the Clean version. FML"
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Where do you purchase music? It getting pretty hard to find a place that sells digital music.

www.anwarmorse.com
Stone-phalanges.deviantart.com

  

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127. "Qobuz.com!! They’re a Hi-Res site. Got SOTV3 in hi-res FLAC!!"
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https://www.qobuz.com/us-en/album/streams-of-thought-vol-3-cane-able-black-thought/qtgloydlib0ic
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118. "RE: What do you all think of the song?"
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I deleted it...I deleted those 3 songs...

My EP goes from The Magnificent to Steak Um

...I left The Experience interlude in...so it goes...you gotta go through it to get to it...to...don't forget who I am...

= Illmatic the EP.

They're not bad songs per se...but that's not what I need from BT

I can go to Washed Out for some autotuned sesame street sing songy electronica...

I'm here for the barz.

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obsidianchrysalis
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109. "It's a throwback album because it rewards relistens"
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The first time through, the only songs that really stood out were the singles, Good Morning and Thought vs. Everybody.

After about 4 or 5 listens, Magnificent has grown on me and also Steak Um. I'm sure with more listens other tracks will click with me.

As Anonymous said, there's a diversity of production styles and lyrical styles to hold attention throughout all 13 tracks. If there was a complaint about the first two, the sameness of the beats stood out. That isn't the case here.

This is my second favorite out of the three. One being my favorite.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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111. "prefer vol 2 but this is growing on me"
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Its excellent, I just find Vol 2 to be damn close to perfect. More cohesive, consistent, etc.


This is really good...but I could do with less Portugal The Man. What am I missing here? I don't get it.

Its cliche but I assume Thought has D's number. Or Paaks. Etc.

Portugal the Man...on...three fucking songs??

I'm sorry but Nature of the Beast sounds like some Disney shit to me.

And I know I am in the extreme minority, but I would be perfectly fine if I never hear Pusha T again. Dude is not interesting without Malice and Pharrel.

And now that I know Killer Mike is just a character dude plays its hard to take him seriously at all.


That said, it does reward repeated listens and I am nitpicking.

  

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119. "RE: Pusha T"
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he said

I only do features to keep hittin' my mark
And show you motherfuckers you ain't good as you Thought

Now I know I'm old skool...but we would have considered that shots fiya'd

You feature a dude on your track...and that's one of his opening barz

Shots FIYA'D.

Before we ever sold cocaine we civilized Spain (c) is my bar of the year

I can't decide who had the hottest verse on that track

With you completely on 'those 3 songs'

Should been left on the editing floor

I'm pretending they don't exist and deleted them.

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120. "that seems like props if anything"
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saying other people are not as good as you, thought. if you want to read into it.

how is it a diss to thought if he is saying people are not as good as thought?

definitely different than when big daddy kane said "on tracks with jurassic i be the t-rex" on that j5 track.

  

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122. "I took the setup as...Push saying he has to do features"
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...so he can hit marks...like an assassin...I'm featured on your favorite rapper's track...watch me rap lines around him

next line...BT, you not as good as you thought

Hit different for me...after listen 4080...shrug

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113. "Thought said on Hot 97 collab album w/ Danger Mouse next year"
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Called "Dangerous Thoughts"

  

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114. "I forgot Danger Mouse existed."
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This gonna be an album or another in the "Streams of Thought" series.

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116. "He said it isn’t part of the series"
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Danger Mouse produced the Michael Kiwanuka albums

  

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117. "pretty sure this has been in the works since the DangerDoom"
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days. Or at least around then.

We got Act 2 so why not. Anything is possible.

  

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115. "Obviously there's no news about this project"
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But I wonder if this is the release of the project they worked on together near the turn of the century.

<--- Me when my head hits the pillow

  

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121. "Anyone know if vinyl is on the way? n/m"
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phemom's the name, all-star writer/
searching 4 journalistic fame, mindframe igniter....www.twitter.com/hayabusaage

  

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123. "they didn't do physicals"
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for either vol 1 or 2 (that I know of) -- I'm guessing that at some point these will be pressed as a set, maybe that's part of his new deal with Republic? But that is just speculation.

-thebigfunk

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124. "i hope so, would love to add them to the collection"
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125. "this is growing on me"
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but honestly I'm mainly here for just 2, 4, and 10. Good Morning is ok but underwhelming, 7 and 8 can absolutely be left behind, and the rest is good but not great. Again, these are relatively early impressions but on the whole it's not anywhere close to vol. 2.


>1 I'm Not Crazy (First Contact)
>2 State Prisoner
>3 Good Morning (Ft. Killer Mike, Pusha T & Swizz Beatz)
>4 Magnificent
>5 Experience (Interlude)
>6 Quiet Trip (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal. The Man)
>7 Nature of the Beast (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal.
>The Man)
>8 We Should Be Good (Ft. C.S. Armstrong)
>9 Steak Um (Ft. ScHoolboy Q)
>10 Thought vs. Everybody
>11 Ghetto Boyz & Girls (Ft. C.S. Armstrong)
>12 Fuel (Ft. The Last Artful, Dodgr & Portugal. The Man)
>13 I'm Not Crazy (Outro)


-thebigfunk

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126. "agreed on vol 2"
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That is definitely the best so far. Amazing piece of work.

This is good too, but man some of these tracks are rough.

Ditch Nature of the Beast, have good Morning cut off after Thought's verse, and nab someone like Bilal for Fuel and/or Quiet Trip and I'm good.


Whats the deal with Portgual the Man? I don't get it. At all. Birthday Girl vibes.

  

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