bavid dammer Member since Oct 23rd 2012 1369 posts
Tue Apr-16-13 12:17 AM
"" Tue Apr-16-13 12:24 AM by bavid dammer
her voice. her performances. her lyrics. the annoying bleeps and bloops over-top of the bass-heavy production... in every song.
and i'm not even going to touch her image, her "art direction", her public persona or the fact she was almost 40 at the time she debuted.
who are really the most annoying, non-comedic acts of all time iyo? because she's up there for me.
a lot of music that was "hip" by 2007/2008 definitions of "hip" (i.e. "everything from 1986 is cool again!") has aged so horribly. now that this stuff is no-longer stylish it has been revealed by time for what it really was. the style rating of M.I.A. probably would have been a proverbial 11/10 in 2007-2009. but how does this stuff hold up now? lol.
paper planes is imo one of the WORST choruses of all-time. any genre, any era. i thought it was a radio edit the first time i heard it, ok let me hear the actual version
...{:O
her "singing" is so half-hearted and flimsy. talent rating on the t/s/e model nearly a flat-line she liberally falls in and out of scale unconsciously hitting flats and sharps by accident with enough reverb on her vocals to keep the song from falling apart. in all honesty, rihanna would outshine her on a duet.
and diplo... lol. diplo is talented in his production values, his mixes sound bright & professional, his programming is very good, he occasionally will throw an edit or something at you that is interesting. ...the ideas he has for melodies and songs? awful. you could serve a stale block of cheese on the finest china, in the finest restaurant and charge someone a chunk of change for it: it's still a stale block of cheese. ...that's diplo's music. just an utter lack of discernment between good and bad with enough glue holding everything together that it seems like it's well-made.
just such an awful combination imo. truly some of the most annoying music to come out of the 00's. and that's saying something.
--- “Change is inevitable. Progress is optional.” – Tony Robbins
Joe Corn Mo Member since Aug 29th 2010 15139 posts
Tue Apr-16-13 02:04 AM
6. "nothing touches dr. dre and g-funk in that department. " In response to Reply # 0
*bias to follow*
g-funk was sociopathic easy listening. took everything that was hard, rebellious, and fun about parliament-funkadelic and removed it. it was the hip hop equilivant of Kenny G.
what's worse, it was omnipresent in a way MIA never was. and it tricked millions of people into believing it was an update of george clinton's sound.
MIA could never compare. and anyway, i played that first MIA album a few weeks ago at the gym. it knocked, as far as i'm concerned.
14. "no matter how many times I read this assessment, I LMAO." In response to Reply # 6 Tue Apr-16-13 12:47 PM by Dr Claw
>g-funk was sociopathic easy listening. >took everything that was hard, rebellious, and fun about >parliament-funkadelic >and removed it. it was the hip hop equilivant of Kenny G. > >what's worse, it was omnipresent in a way MIA never was. >and it tricked millions of people into believing >it was an update of george clinton's sound.
I damn near feel the same thing about Dr. Dre's Parliament traceovers sometimes, absent "Let Me Ride", which was a good use (remake?) of "Mothership Connection" for the beat.
But shit like the Chronic theme which traces over "P-Funk (Wants To Get Funked Up)", all the "Knee Deep" and "Atomic Dog" traces for Snoop, NWA's "Niggaz 4 Life" with "Sir Nose D'Voidoffunk" (good thing the verses were funny... particularly Dre's).... and what was even worse, when Ice Cube and others started copying that shit ("Bop Gun" was the worst to me... just straight rapping over a remake of "One Nation Under A Groove")... man. That was Puffy before Puffy.
Cube had better Parliament SAMPLES in his work (and that of the Boogie Men) than the interpolations/redos/cashing in on 1970s nostalgia that was going on back then. Now you talk about some shit that didn't age?
and I love the beat, but "Ain't No Fun" was a great example of what I call pissin' on sunshine. Sociopathic Easy Listening, indeed.
I think Shock G did a much better update of what Parliament and Funkadelic were doing without all the outright "tracing" of the old shit. I mean, look at Digital Underground. That shit was hip-hop Parliament right there.
Joe Corn Mo Member since Aug 29th 2010 15139 posts
Tue Apr-16-13 12:55 PM
15. "i stole that from robert christgau. " In response to Reply # 14
i lol every time i read it as well.
>>g-funk was sociopathic easy listening. >>took everything that was hard, rebellious, and fun about >>parliament-funkadelic >>and removed it. it was the hip hop equilivant of Kenny G. >> >>what's worse, it was omnipresent in a way MIA never was. >>and it tricked millions of people into believing >>it was an update of george clinton's sound. > >I damn near feel the same thing about Dr. Dre's Parliament >traceovers sometimes, absent "Let Me Ride", which was a good >use (remake?) of "Mothership Connection" for the beat. >
there are some g-funk things i dig. reluctantly, but i dig it nonetheless. but mostly, i hate it.
agreed on the cube p-funk samples. dead on it about digital underground. THAT is dr. funkenstein. dre was sir nose, d'void of funk.
>But shit like the Chronic theme which traces over "P-Funk >(Wants To Get Funked Up)", all the "Knee Deep" and "Atomic >Dog" traces for Snoop, NWA's "Niggaz 4 Life" with "Sir Nose >D'Voidoffunk" (good thing the verses were funny... >particularly Dre's).... and what was even worse, when Ice Cube >and others started copying that shit ("Bop Gun" was the worst >to me... just straight rapping over a remake of "One Nation >Under A Groove")... man. That was Puffy before Puffy. > >Cube had better Parliament SAMPLES in his work (and that of >the Boogie Men) than the interpolations/redos/cashing in on >1970s nostalgia that was going on back then. Now you talk >about some shit that didn't age? > >and I love the beat, but "Ain't No Fun" was a great example of >what I call pissin' on sunshine. Sociopathic Easy Listening, >indeed. > >I think Shock G did a much better update of what Parliament >and Funkadelic were doing without all the outright "tracing" >of the old shit. I mean, look at Digital Underground. That >shit was hip-hop Parliament right there.
12. "The problem with this post is if anything M.I.A. is underrated" In response to Reply # 0
Id agree with you if her career fizzled out after Arular which was just a cheezy world music landgrab.
Everything else she's released since has been pretty good to great. Hell, id argue she opened the lane for more then a few 'weirder' pop acts to slide through...without her Santigold wouldn't probably have a career.
Shes' not the best singer or rapper but she's more then adequate for pop music; we are talking about an era where someone like Cudi can be one of the biggest pop stars in the world
and LOL@ giving Diplo props... without strong collaborators to do the bulk of the producing/songwriting he falls off hard.