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"What's the best produced hiphop albums of all times?"


  

          

Im refering to production in the hiphop sense (non vocal elements of a song). The easy choice for me was illmatic but im not that big a fan of reprasent so im going with Mecca and the soul brother cos i have a sweet tooth for jazzy hiphop. Add on....

  

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The Main Ingredient
Sep 01st 2012
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Aquemini
Sep 01st 2012
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this is what came to mind first..
Sep 02nd 2012
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2001
Sep 01st 2012
3
Livin' Proof
Sep 01st 2012
4
Moment of Truth >>> Livin' Proof
Sep 01st 2012
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      no.
Sep 01st 2012
14
      Your analysis is 100% on point here.
Sep 01st 2012
16
      i think the first half is outstanding.
Sep 02nd 2012
18
           I actually deleted...
Sep 02nd 2012
19
      I was on Gamg Starr and Primo since
Sep 01st 2012
17
           no kidding.
Sep 02nd 2012
28
                RE: no kidding.
Sep 02nd 2012
35
                     whiff.
Sep 02nd 2012
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                          Actually he's dead right
Sep 02nd 2012
40
                               strike two.
Sep 03rd 2012
47
                                    You do know that you're a fucking joke on these boards right?
Sep 03rd 2012
49
      MOT is a top 5 production effort
Sep 02nd 2012
22
      Moment of Truth ain't even better than Hard to Earn IMO
Sep 02nd 2012
29
      wrong
Sep 02nd 2012
43
Doggystyle, Buhloone Mindstate and The Blueprint are several of my favor...
Sep 01st 2012
5
niggaz4life
Sep 01st 2012
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LOL
Sep 01st 2012
8
lulz @ LOL
Sep 01st 2012
9
      If you feel there's a need to name more recent albums
Sep 01st 2012
10
           thanks, bro!
Sep 01st 2012
11
                Only they don't have great beats when compared to the greatest of all-ti...
Sep 01st 2012
12
What I came in here to post.
Sep 01st 2012
15
quasimoto-the unseen
Sep 01st 2012
13
ATCQ, "Midnite Marauders".
Sep 02nd 2012
20
Stunts, blunts & Hip Hop
Sep 02nd 2012
21
Breaking Atoms, It Takes A Nation..., De La Soul Is Dead, Daily Operatio...
Sep 02nd 2012
23
Endtroducing
Sep 02nd 2012
24
you niggers better show Diamond some love
Sep 02nd 2012
25
Yep
Sep 02nd 2012
26
Cuban Linx
Sep 02nd 2012
27
correct.
Sep 02nd 2012
42
Like Water For Chocolate
Sep 02nd 2012
30
SouthernpLayaListicaddiLacmuzik
Sep 02nd 2012
31
Chops want you back!
Sep 02nd 2012
34
      RE: Chops want you back!
Sep 03rd 2012
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Moment of Truth
Sep 02nd 2012
32
The Chronic
Sep 02nd 2012
33
probably It Takes A Nation, sort of cheating tho since it's basically
Sep 02nd 2012
38
you could do it, just don't plan on releasing it for a major label
Sep 02nd 2012
39
      or having the studio time paid for to do it
Sep 03rd 2012
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           RE: or having the studio time paid for to do it
Sep 03rd 2012
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                No, I don't. The Bomb Squad was 7 or 8 deep at points with dudes
Sep 03rd 2012
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                     I don't buy that
Sep 03rd 2012
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great suggestions funny that all but my fav produced outkast lp has
Sep 02nd 2012
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too many to choose from
Sep 02nd 2012
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Paul's Boutique
Sep 02nd 2012
45
It could be made for fun. Just couldn't afford to release it.
Sep 03rd 2012
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RE: What's the best produced hiphop albums of all times?
Sep 03rd 2012
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1. "The Main Ingredient "
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Without a doubt my favorite produced hip-hop album from top to bottom.

Liquid Swords is right up there a well.

  

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2. "Aquemini"
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37. "this is what came to mind first.. "
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it's incredible shit.

  

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3. "2001"
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--sig--
n/a

  

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4. "Livin' Proof"
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OutKast, Gang Starr, UGK, Mobb Deep and Eightball & MJG

  

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6. "Moment of Truth >>> Livin' Proof"
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nm

  

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14. "no."
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MOT's production was good quality but unexciting, a calcification of the sound that primo would basically take to his grave: fourth-bar breakdowns, 95 bpms and spliced-together hooks that lacked the catchiness of his earlier scratched hooks.

primo's work on hard 2 earn, daily operation, sun rises in the east and livin' proof is more exciting and better overall. i'd venture to say that most people who say otherwise probably loved MOT for what it represented as an alternative to the diddy era -- or weren't listening to primo in the early 90s.

  

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16. "Your analysis is 100% on point here."
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But MOT's production was truly outstanding.

>MOT's production was good quality but unexciting, a
>calcification of the sound that primo would basically take to
>his grave: fourth-bar breakdowns, 95 bpms and spliced-together
>hooks that lacked the catchiness of his earlier scratched
>hooks.
>
>primo's work on hard 2 earn, daily operation, sun rises in the
>east and livin' proof is more exciting and better overall. i'd
>venture to say that most people who say otherwise probably
>loved MOT for what it represented as an alternative to the
>diddy era -- or weren't listening to primo in the early 90s.

  

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18. "i think the first half is outstanding."
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but out of the last nine tracks (there are frigging 20 songs), only "make 'em pay" and maybe "betrayal" are memorable to me. and the hooks aren't overly strong anywhere, which was one of primo's strongest contributions to his earlier work.

  

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19. "I actually deleted..."
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...from my last post where I said that the album was clearly too long. I can't argue with anything you're saying, I only think you might be understating a little bit just how great the great production on that album is.

DO and HTE are still better, no matter what.

  

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17. "I was on Gamg Starr and Primo since"
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94. I had all of those albums (except Daily Operation) before Moment of Truth.

And no, I didn't like MOT because it was an answer to the Diddy era. I was actually rocking LAD and NWO then as well.

MOT is better to me in terms of quality. You can tell Primo put his ass in that record.

All this 'it's not new and exciting" bullshit doesn't mean anything to me because I don't listen to music for whatever is new and exciting. I rock with what I think is dope.

The sequencing, the beats, the scratches, the features...everything worked perfectly on MOT.

All of Primo's work in the mid 90s lead up to that album and then he just perfected it.

  

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28. "no kidding."
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so you're not interested in music that is inventive, groundbreaking or influential -- only what you "think is dope."

shocker.

  

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35. "RE: no kidding."
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listening to what you
"think is dope" >>>>>>>>> checking for the next gimmick and musical fad





>so you're not interested in music that is inventive,
>groundbreaking or influential -- only what you "think is
>dope."
>
>shocker.

  

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36. "whiff."
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40. "Actually he's dead right"
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It's actual sad that you listen to music for the next fad.

You're probably the 40 year old dude in the club with the jersey on trying to hold on to your younger years.

  

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47. "strike two."
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proving my point yet again, you consider anything outside of a narrow little aesthetic box to be a "fad." despite the fact that the south has dominated rap for the last decade, the idea that "flockaveli" and "TM101" are masterfully produced albums is beyond comprehension. your taste is so skewed towards one specific time/location/orthodoxy that it's totally worthless when applied to anything else. it sucks to be you.

  

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49. "You do know that you're a fucking joke on these boards right?"
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Nm

  

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22. "MOT is a top 5 production effort"
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and has both Primo's and Guru's best work over the course of an album
straight up and down, it's a masterpiece and when you consider what sort of run GangStarr was on before it dropped, you can see how that album did what most thought was impossible

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29. "Moment of Truth ain't even better than Hard to Earn IMO"
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It's all opinions though

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43. "wrong"
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>nm

  

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5. "Doggystyle, Buhloone Mindstate and The Blueprint are several of my favor..."
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7. "niggaz4life"
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some other standouts:

nation of millions
amerikkka's most wanted
midnight marauders
cuban linx
hard 2 earn
thug motivation 101
the documentary
graduation
flockaveli
blueprint

  

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8. "LOL"
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>thug motivation 101
>the documentary
>flockaveli
>

  

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9. "lulz @ LOL"
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escape the 90s, little man

  

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10. "If you feel there's a need to name more recent albums"
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The Fix
Below The Heavens
I'll Sleep When You're Dead, Cure 4 Cancer, and RAP Music
Never Better
Madvillainy
Fantastic vol 2
Game Theory
In The Ruff & People Hear What They See
Supreme Clientele

  

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11. "thanks, bro!"
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lulz @ you attempting to clown three albums with great beats.

  

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12. "Only they don't have great beats when compared to the greatest of all-ti..."
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Nm

  

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15. "What I came in here to post."
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I'd say either Efil4zaggin or Low End Theory

  

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13. "quasimoto-the unseen"
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fantastic vol.1 & 2
ATLiens
Liquid Swords

  

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20. "ATCQ, "Midnite Marauders"."
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https://chriswind.bandcamp.com/track/massage

"You can take an African out of Africa, but you can't take Africa out of the African"
Afro-Americana/Afro-Caribbana/Afro-Latino unite. We are ALL Black!

  

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21. "Stunts, blunts & Hip Hop"
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Train Of Thought
Like Water For Chocolate
Things Fall Apart
black on both sides
Do You Want More???!
Illadelph Halflife
Game Theory
Ready To Die
Enter The Wu-Tang: 36 Chambers
Only built for cuban linx
Low End Theory
Midnight Marauders
Liquid Swords
Mecca & the Soul brother
R.A.P. Music
Cancer 4 Cure
Fantastic Damage
The Cold Vein
Labor Days
De La Soul Is Dead
Stakes is High
The Renaissance
The Chronic
2001
Late Registration
My beautiful dark twisted fantasy
The Ecstatic
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http://islasoul.bandcamp.com

  

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23. "Breaking Atoms, It Takes A Nation..., De La Soul Is Dead, Daily Operatio..."
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I don't know, there ain't no #1 in this hip hop ish.

*CROCKER*

word booty.

HSUBAKCITS

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24. "Endtroducing"
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25. "you niggers better show Diamond some love"
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Stunts Blunts and Hip Hop is a fucking production showcase to the nth degree

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26. "Yep"
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27. "Cuban Linx"
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42. "correct."
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30. "Like Water For Chocolate"
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Now that D's back

can't they grab Madlib and get the Soulquarians back together

I'm puttin the band back together - BB




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31. "SouthernpLayaListicaddiLacmuzik"
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the best hiphop aLbum production on one LP ever.

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34. "Chops want you back!"
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Busy?

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NEW Edo.G album FreEDOm coming soon!!!

  

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50. "RE: Chops want you back!"
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moved to a new apartment.. packing, moving, unpacking.. then my girLs started back to schooL this past week and they are hanging with me this weekend.

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32. "Moment of Truth"
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on the east coast side

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33. "The Chronic"
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Street Gospel - Suga Free

  

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38. "probably It Takes A Nation, sort of cheating tho since it's basically"
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impossible to legally produce an album like that in the following couple decades.

  

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39. "you could do it, just don't plan on releasing it for a major label"
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or making any sort of income off it

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46. "or having the studio time paid for to do it"
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so between those three things eliminates pretty much any kind of collective of talent from ever trying it again.

  

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51. "RE: or having the studio time paid for to do it"
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you don't think it could be made bedroom producer style today with all the software and technology available? i feel like you're overstating the importance of studio time. i think time in general might be the bigger factor. people don't have the attention span and dedication to make something like that, and listeners don't expect better than what they're given on a regular basis.

  

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52. "No, I don't. The Bomb Squad was 7 or 8 deep at points with dudes"
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>you don't think it could be made bedroom producer style today
>with all the software and technology available?

that were trained at some level of engineering/production/instrumentation, you're not gonna get that kind of depth from a bedroom producer even with the technological improvements.

For a myriad of reasons, rap music will never sound like that album again.

  

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53. "I don't buy that"
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BS were bedroom niggas too at one time and if they had that kind of advice to listen to then, we wouldn't have this sort of conversation now

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41. "great suggestions funny that all but my fav produced outkast lp has "
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been suggested

  

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44. "too many to choose from"
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45. "Paul's Boutique"
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Another album that I don't think could be produced now.
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48. "It could be made for fun. Just couldn't afford to release it."
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OutKast, Gang Starr, UGK, Mobb Deep and Eightball & MJG

  

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54. "RE: What's the best produced hiphop albums of all times?"
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Moment of Truth- Simply put, a 20 track album with not a single less than great beat. Has some of my favourite beats ever: Next Time, Above the clouds, JFK to LAX, moment of truth

Cold Vein- El-p's beats were so incredibly layered and apocalyptic and fitted the tone of the album perfectly.

2001- Every song sounds like it would be a single on anyone else's album.

Honourable mentions:
Hell Hath no Fury- The Clipse
College Dropout- Kanye- this is a personal classic for me, love every beat on this album
Only Built for Cuban linx- Raekwon

  

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