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legsdiamond
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"Are you letting Amazon share your wifi? "


          

Its called Sidewalk and Amazon just flipped the switch on June 8th. Everyone automatically opted in and has to opt out.

But no one is really discussing it.

So if you have a Ring or Echo device that shit is sharing a slice of your wifi with the block.

https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/6/13/22528743/amazon-sidewalk-privacy-hacking-echo-ring-doorball-editorial

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another encroachment on privacy in the name of convenience.
Jun 16th 2021
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the automatic opt-in is crazy
Jun 16th 2021
3
      I don't have any of those type devices in my place.
Jun 16th 2021
5
no. disabled.
Jun 16th 2021
2
were you alerted or did you already know about it?
Jun 16th 2021
4
right…as soon as I saw that alert…
Jun 16th 2021
6
opted out of that shit a few weeks ago at the advice of tech blogs
Jun 16th 2021
7
I doubt opting out even removes the sharing...
Jun 16th 2021
8
correct
Jun 16th 2021
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      Pssht…95% of our shopping is Amazon anyway…they know me
Jun 17th 2021
11
           damn.. that is too much
Jun 17th 2021
13
                Man, anything to save time and energy….and money….
Jun 17th 2021
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I do not willingly place surveillance devices in my own home.
Jun 16th 2021
10
^^^typed this with a straight face from personal computing device^^^^
Jun 17th 2021
12
      phone is a necessary evil
Jun 17th 2021
14
      People underestimate how much personal info they freely give away
Jun 17th 2021
15
           I kind of agree
Jun 17th 2021
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                I MIGHT agree to opt-in if there were compensation....
Jun 17th 2021
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                     its stealing IMO. You didnt buy a device to share with the block
Jun 17th 2021
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      I post from a computer at the public library
Jun 17th 2021
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tariqhu
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Wed Jun-16-21 11:27 AM

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1. "another encroachment on privacy in the name of convenience."
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my guess is that a few folks will make a stir about it, especially since Amazon is being sneaky about it, but the majority of folks with connected devices won't be mad.

privacy is really a thing of the past.

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legsdiamond
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Wed Jun-16-21 11:32 AM

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3. "the automatic opt-in is crazy"
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I didn’t even know it was a thing until someone at work pointed it out.

Did the devices or Amazon notify users?

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tariqhu
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5. "I don't have any of those type devices in my place."
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I'm guessing that sent something about, but most folks aint reading techy shit.

sucks that this stuff is 'agreed' upon with enrollment to their services.

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Wed Jun-16-21 11:30 AM

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2. "no. disabled."
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legsdiamond
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4. "were you alerted or did you already know about it? "
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6. "right…as soon as I saw that alert…"
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I went straight to…how to opt the fuck out. All we even have is an Echo Dot, in the living room where no one really hangs out. It was cool, at first…my kids making Alexa tell jokes or make fart noises. But, we really don’t even use it. It tells us when we have Amazon packages coming, but, we already know that.

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FLUIDJ
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7. "opted out of that shit a few weeks ago at the advice of tech blogs "
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i follow.

  

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8. "I doubt opting out even removes the sharing... "
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...best thing to do is to destroy that amazon device



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9. "correct"
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having a Ring or Echo in the first place is giving Amazon the keys to your household

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11. "Pssht…95% of our shopping is Amazon anyway…they know me"
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Better than I know myself lol..

The only thing we don’t buy at Amazon is gas, toilet paper, paper towels, Tide and clothing (mostly)

  

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legsdiamond
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13. "damn.. that is too much"
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nit sure why but I just feel like I need to diversify my shopping.. lol

I use Amazon but its mostly one time purchases or gifts for family. Being able to ship directly to fam is lovely.

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FLUIDJ
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16. "Man, anything to save time and energy….and money…."
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Groceries get here in less time than it takes us to compile a list, mask up, go to the grocery store, deal with parking & crowds, and inevitably stuff we need being out of stock….

If Amazon could deliver gas, I’d probably sign right up! Lol…..

I will occasionally buy directly from a vendor if the price is equivalent and ships for free and I don’t need it immediately…..but shit…right now… I needed new filters for the refrigerator so against my better judgment I went to Whirlpool’s website and purchased them from there instead of Amazon….saved me like $8…. But that was damn near a week and half ago and they STILL haven’t shipped! Meanwhile….my fridge water dispenser is on drip mode because the filter is “expired” and I probably coulda had them shits from Amazon by the end of the day last week….


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10. "I do not willingly place surveillance devices in my own home. "
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>Its called Sidewalk and Amazon just flipped the switch on
>June 8th. Everyone automatically opted in and has to opt out.
>
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>But no one is really discussing it.
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>So if you have a Ring or Echo device that shit is sharing a
>slice of your wifi with the block.
>
>https://chicago.suntimes.com/2021/6/13/22528743/amazon-sidewalk-privacy-hacking-echo-ring-doorball-editorial
>

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FLUIDJ
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12. "^^^typed this with a straight face from personal computing device^^^^"
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legsdiamond
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14. "phone is a necessary evil"
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smart speakers and rings are next level imo.

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15. "People underestimate how much personal info they freely give away"
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Just browsing the internet on their phones and computers and tablets etc…
I mean…
I just think smart speakers and the like are waaay LESS of a privacy issue….

Alexa & Google Home are recording a bunch of screaming and fussing at my kids and banter about what’s for dinner or what we need to order in this weeks groceries lol…


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17. "I kind of agree"
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when people say things like “I wont let the grocery store track my purchases with a discount card”

I laugh..

but I also feel like keeping my tracking devices at a minimum because we know what our phones are doing isn’t a bad thing.

all that said, this activation of wifi sharing is scary. They shouldn’t be able to just turn shit on and force us to opt out. Let us opt in.

and what happens when there is an update? Does it reset everything? Are they really letting users opt out?



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18. "I MIGHT agree to opt-in if there were compensation...."
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I'm against on on principle more so than privacy concerns.
I have firewall and robust network protections in place....
But the fact that I PAID for a device and now Amazon wants to USE a device I paid for for THEIR own gain???? Nah B....pay me.

  

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19. "its stealing IMO. You didnt buy a device to share with the block"
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shit is crazy.

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20. "I post from a computer at the public library"
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using someone elses login credentials.



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