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Mori
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"Osaka and the right to refuse"


          

I hope Naomi Osaka is the beginning of a new trend of athletes protecting their most valuable assets, their mental and physical health.

I of course never made $55million, but I did once have a job ask me to go to a very intense meeting while I was dealing a serious health condition.

I told my boss that I was not comfortable with the meeting and that I would call in. He lost his shit. He thought I should be honored to sit around a table of people 40 years or older and listen to them criticize me and give me more work.

I remember how empowered I felt in saying no, even if it meant my job might be in jeopardy.

The usual suspects are criticizing her.

Either way, this should be a good step forward for athletes.

Rise & Shine
Thrive & Grind
Heart & Mind

  

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Osaka and the right to refuse [View all] , Mori, Tue Jun-01-21 06:25 AM
 
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Part of that 55 million comes from media.
Jun 01st 2021
1
This is true...but in tennis she has a unique level of agency.
Jun 01st 2021
2
she doesnt have an issue w/ the media itself
Jun 01st 2021
6
it can be a bit of both
Jun 01st 2021
9
Yep. People keep missing this point. Its always her right to pick and
Jun 01st 2021
16
the nuance is lost here
Jun 01st 2021
73
I hope she gets better
Jun 01st 2021
3
^^^^
Jun 01st 2021
4
I hope we get better
Jun 01st 2021
5
I feel bad for her but when you enter the tournament
Jun 01st 2021
7
ahh.. is it interviews or just the French and her clay game?
Jun 01st 2021
8
from her statement "The tennis press has always been kind to me"
Jun 01st 2021
10
      I get that.. but I’m not sure that means its the only reason
Jun 01st 2021
11
      I watched that 2018 finale and the crowd was terrible
Jun 01st 2021
12
      i read an article ystday where she stated that depression played a part
Jun 01st 2021
47
           according to her sister the clay is the root cause in this case
Jun 01st 2021
49
                yeah...however it goes depression and anxiety are definitely real...
Jun 01st 2021
50
"Otherwise just dont play in it."
Jun 01st 2021
15
      after the FO said they'd fine her and possibly kick her
Jun 01st 2021
18
           They did what they had to do. She did what she had to do
Jun 01st 2021
19
           yep and small tournaments absolutely will
Jun 01st 2021
21
           Good point.She is empowered to say NO.
Jun 01st 2021
24
           "the way this stuff works" is made up
Jun 01st 2021
20
           ^^^ this right here
Jun 01st 2021
22
           Looking at the athletes suffering today
Jun 01st 2021
25
           it's 2021 - we can just decide to be easier on each other
Jun 01st 2021
29
                I dont feel responsible for the way athletes feel
Jun 01st 2021
41
                     Lol
Jun 01st 2021
48
                     if I was a betting man I would put my money on the house
Jun 01st 2021
61
                     "Have to" doesn't mean anything here
Jun 01st 2021
                          I hear you but nah.. I don’t agree
Jun 01st 2021
58
           ^
Jun 01st 2021
39
           That sounds like a negotiation to me.
Jun 01st 2021
43
           RE: after the FO said they'd fine her and possibly kick her
Jun 01st 2021
54
                I agree BUT.... to reporters it is the end all be all to them
Jun 01st 2021
79
                     Any reporter who thinks they shine in those post match interviews
Jun 02nd 2021
86
                          nah.. I don’t mean showing up the athlete in the interview
Jun 02nd 2021
105
«Good Job, French Open. Now we can focus on what’s really important:
Jun 01st 2021
13
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y2KPPzKJrbg
Jun 01st 2021
14
Agreed but she's not Lebron lmao
Jun 01st 2021
17
Yeah, having teammates to back you up really helps.
Jun 01st 2021
26
she’s not Bron, and she doesn’t have a Richard or Venus around her
Jun 01st 2021
30
first time I heard Lebron give an interview
Jun 01st 2021
23
The French Open or the press isn’t the issue here.
Jun 01st 2021
27
A whiff of sexism
Jun 01st 2021
28
RE: A whiff of sexism >>>> 100% agreed
Jun 01st 2021
32
Eh they literally just hit Kyrie with this shit earlier this season
Jun 01st 2021
33
Yeah, she could never tho. She’s her and it’s tennis
Jun 01st 2021
35
and plenty of people said Kyrie was crzazy/annoying
Jun 01st 2021
37
A whiff of sexism?
Jun 01st 2021
45
      Ron Artest was forced to get therapy after spending 20 days in jail
Jun 01st 2021
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           No. Ron stated David Stern was right in suspending him for 86 games
Jun 01st 2021
59
                he was ordered to therapy as part of his prison sentence
Jun 01st 2021
82
Playing tennis and competing might be theraputic to her
Jun 01st 2021
31
Yes
Jun 01st 2021
34
Ricky Williams had anxiety
Jun 01st 2021
38
The media isn’t harsh to her, though.
Jun 01st 2021
46
      the #2 player in the world is emotionally weak?
Jun 01st 2021
56
^^^^Internet doing what the internet does best.
Jun 01st 2021
40
Realistically, she wasn't doing it back then
Jun 01st 2021
42
      and the pressure to stay on top has to be brutal
Jun 01st 2021
44
           Yep, a lot of people eating off of her talent
Jun 01st 2021
60
If I could afford to fall back from work, I def. would. I'm not mad at h...
Jun 01st 2021
36
Wish I had fuck you money
Jun 01st 2021
51
word
Jun 01st 2021
57
Lots of interesting takes in here. Good post.
Jun 01st 2021
52
she exposes the discrepancy between physical injuries and mental ones
Jun 01st 2021
53
you're right.
Jun 02nd 2021
126
Grand Slam Tennis leaders pledge to address Osaka's concerns...
Jun 01st 2021
62
just read the #11 player tapped out after falling in a media session
Jun 01st 2021
64
Punishing someone experiencing a mental health crisis isn't the answer.....
Jun 01st 2021
63
Look, man.
Jun 01st 2021
65
      evidently she can...
Jun 01st 2021
66
      This is not the same thing as calling in sick,
Jun 01st 2021
67
           she is not employed by Roland-Garros. she is a contractor
Jun 01st 2021
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                There is no such thing as financial freedom.
Jun 01st 2021
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                     no.. she isn’t easily replaceable. This is false
Jun 01st 2021
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                          She is easily replaceable
Jun 01st 2021
80
                               no one said she would shut down the tourney
Jun 01st 2021
81
                               GST says you're loud and wrong LOL...
Jun 01st 2021
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                               What does that have to do with the tourney going on?
Jun 01st 2021
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                                    GST played chicken and lost...
Jun 01st 2021
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                               not having one of your sport's biggest draws compete is a loss
Jun 03rd 2021
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      She can and she DID...
Jun 01st 2021
68
      No one backed her into a corner.
Jun 01st 2021
75
           You want it to be one way © Marlo...
Jun 01st 2021
78
      Blaming someone suffering with mental health issues
Jun 02nd 2021
87
I remember I was having
Jun 01st 2021
70
can't she Marshawn Lynch
Jun 01st 2021
71
That's pretty much what she's been doing all along...
Jun 01st 2021
74
      ^
Jun 01st 2021
77
RE: Osaka and the right to refuse
Jun 02nd 2021
88
OkayPlayer posted this on the IG feed
Jun 02nd 2021
89
This is incredible. I love this!!!
Jun 02nd 2021
90
That was beautiful.. and the way Venus was smiling when her father
Jun 02nd 2021
91
Yeah - first you see the confidence in her original answer.
Jun 02nd 2021
92
She did have that look like "Get 'eemmm", lol
Jun 02nd 2021
93
Word. That clip brought a smile to my face
Jun 02nd 2021
101
^^^
Jun 02nd 2021
97
I remember the first time I saw that in the 90s I wanted to punch that d...
Jun 02nd 2021
104
That is so dope
Jun 02nd 2021
127
Osaka can do whatever she wants, but I have to ask...
Jun 02nd 2021
94
maybe.. but Marshawn is built differently
Jun 02nd 2021
102
      sure, but it did get better.
Jun 02nd 2021
103
           It didn't get better, Lynch retired...
Jun 02nd 2021
106
                some coaches and media will speak on it when the questions are dumb
Jun 02nd 2021
107
                Check the edit before you continue...
Jun 02nd 2021
108
                let's not pretend Lynch retired because of the media.
Jun 02nd 2021
110
                     Stop moving the goalpost...
Jun 02nd 2021
111
                          no it got better in the sense that they stopped asking him so much shit.
Jun 02nd 2021
116
                               Context & clarity: it never got better for Lynch...
Jun 02nd 2021
119
                               okay man. really not worth debating.
Jun 02nd 2021
120
                                    Okay, player. LOL
Jun 02nd 2021
124
                               I think it ended in a stalemate
Jun 02nd 2021
125
in 2018, NO beat her sport idol
Jun 02nd 2021
95
Questions for folks who watch tennis (or at least the Black athletes)
Jun 02nd 2021
96
they all get asked the same type of questions really
Jun 02nd 2021
98
you may see her as the press darling
Jun 02nd 2021
100
interesting
Jun 02nd 2021
109
a few answers
Jun 02nd 2021
99
Thank you
Jun 02nd 2021
112
Here is the thing.
Jun 02nd 2021
113
      Its peculiar how after all these posts in here you still dont get it
Jun 02nd 2021
114
      Ok, you make a lot of fair points here. Especially comparing across
Jun 02nd 2021
115
      ^^^Exactly. Some type of common ground.
Jun 02nd 2021
117
           Right. But I also agree with Mori's and Bambino's pushback to your
Jun 02nd 2021
121
      RE: Here is the thing.
Jun 02nd 2021
118
      Off topic, but Kyrgios revels in being the bad guy
Jun 02nd 2021
122
      Yeah, but he still gets battered by the press.
Jun 02nd 2021
141
      it doesn’t have anything to do with bad press
Jun 02nd 2021
130
What if it affected her ability to perform on the court?
Jun 02nd 2021
123
I think this is the 'wobbler'
Jun 02nd 2021
128
Interesting read of Serena's thick-thin comment lol. I thought she was
Jun 02nd 2021
129
      Serena was low key dissing.
Jun 02nd 2021
131
           Interesting. Not my read at all. Then again I don't really follow sports...
Jun 02nd 2021
133
                lol true
Jun 02nd 2021
136
This Argument works against her though.
Jun 02nd 2021
134
      this guy?
Jun 03rd 2021
146
      I would think pre-game vs post-game interviews are very different
Jun 03rd 2021
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           coaches HATE those players in game quarterly interviews
Jun 03rd 2021
158
                Pop cracked me up with the 1 word answers in the in-game interviews!
Jun 03rd 2021
164
hey allstah..its 2021..join us
Jun 02nd 2021
hey allstah..its 2021..join us
Jun 02nd 2021
132
This is a good argument why she should do interviews no one made here
Jun 02nd 2021
135
I 100 percent agree with this.
Jun 02nd 2021
137
Yeah you the only one here worried about how this hurts Nike.
Jun 02nd 2021
139
      No. I agreed with your point.
Jun 02nd 2021
140
She didn't get to skip, she was prepared to pay the fine
Jun 02nd 2021
138
competitive advantage? lmao.. if that was the case more would simply
Jun 03rd 2021
144
obviously the "anyone can pay the fine" point has been made...
Jun 03rd 2021
174
There are a lot of hypocrites in this thread.
Jun 02nd 2021
142
Lol
Jun 03rd 2021
143
To be clear, I do think this may indicate she is not as mentally tough
Jun 03rd 2021
145
this is bullshit. Its not weakness, its STRENGTH
Jun 03rd 2021
148
      ^^^^
Jun 03rd 2021
161
      thank you for saying this.
Jun 03rd 2021
171
You just listed a bunch of team sport athletes
Jun 03rd 2021
147
      Kevin Love is a great example of an individual in a team sport
Jun 03rd 2021
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      ...and nobody $hit on him for it...he was celebrated for speaking up
Jun 03rd 2021
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           I’m sure some fans shit on Love
Jun 03rd 2021
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                RE: but it was mostly before we knew what he was going thru
Jun 03rd 2021
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                fans want their athletes to be super hero’s who never
Jun 03rd 2021
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                ^^you and legs are killing this subthread
Jun 03rd 2021
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                     you have grown folk calling her mentally weak
Jun 03rd 2021
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                          ^^^ Great reference IRT Ricky Williams
Jun 03rd 2021
172
                Cool.
Jun 03rd 2021
160
                     She should have to do press so she can be like Tiger (c) you
Jun 03rd 2021
163
                     Rules apply to everyone. That’s why we call them rules.
Jun 03rd 2021
165
                          Are you okay?
Jun 03rd 2021
166
                               dude’s back is impressive.. cause he stay moving goal post
Jun 03rd 2021
167
                               No. I’m fine. And you know damn well what I’m talking about.
Jun 03rd 2021
170
                                    She withdrew.. wtf are you talking about?
Jun 03rd 2021
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                                         😭😭😭😭😭😭😭😭
Jun 03rd 2021
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                     wait.. you realize most people trashed Loves game
Jun 03rd 2021
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                          No one is trashing her mental health. Far from it.
Jun 03rd 2021
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                               no.. you are switching up again, you referenced OKS trashing
Jun 03rd 2021
177
                                    Okay, you’re referring to the message board.
Jun 03rd 2021
184
                                         I’m saying the online criticism doesn’t impact her game
Jun 03rd 2021
186
      So now she needs to be part of a team?
Jun 03rd 2021
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           People are different and there is enough space for everyone
Jun 03rd 2021
153
           wait.. Tiger unraveling and is still phucked up
Jun 03rd 2021
156
Venus answer tho.. None of you raggedy media bitches can play tennis
Jun 03rd 2021
159
Something I keep thinking about is why press get the benefit/right to q'...
Jun 03rd 2021
175
The whole "those are the rules" approach confounds me
Jun 03rd 2021
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      any time someone tried to introduce change or buck the system
Jun 04th 2021
199
BTW, this is the most Gen Z sports controversy I have ever seen.
Jun 03rd 2021
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this aint knew..
Jun 03rd 2021
181
*new
Jun 03rd 2021
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^^^^ This,this,this
Jun 03rd 2021
183
its insanity to put your health and happiness ahead of corporate..
Jun 04th 2021
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Those damn Gen Z kids wont bend the knee like i did :/
Jun 03rd 2021
185
Lol I mentioned up top too how this was Gen Z af. I think it's good tho.
Jun 04th 2021
188
^^^^^I can't call whether they will change the world...
Jun 04th 2021
196
      I like to believe every generation is better than the one before it
Jun 04th 2021
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Nah, that’s burner accounts
Jun 04th 2021
192
She was threatened with expulsion from ALL grand slam events
Jun 04th 2021
189
yup.. they played themselves
Jun 04th 2021
191
can't believe this wasn't mentioned until 190 comments deep.
Jun 04th 2021
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They didn’t change the rules.
Jun 04th 2021
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      you're still worried about $$$ when she isn't
Jun 04th 2021
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      fans love to tell athletes what to do
Jun 04th 2021
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      This is the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard in my life.
Jun 04th 2021
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           you sound dumb af
Jun 05th 2021
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                he said 3% on savings account. lol
Jun 17th 2021
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      That money doesn’t come out of the manager or agents cut
Jun 04th 2021
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           This is highly unintelligent and immature logic.
Jun 04th 2021
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                No. What is immature is putting money before health and sanity
Jun 05th 2021
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I DO hope she’s using her wealth to fund her efforts towards better me...
Jun 04th 2021
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I heard she took out a pay day loan
Jun 04th 2021
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Fresh Prince got her back
Jun 04th 2021
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Osaka notified Berlin she won’t play
Jun 07th 2021
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Wimbledon Out
Jun 17th 2021
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Pretty sure she said she is looking forward to the Olympics in Japan
Jun 17th 2021
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