https://www.npr.org/2021/05/13/996582891/fully-vaccinated-people-can-stop-wearing-masks-indoors-and-outdoors-cdc-says

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention says that fully vaccinated adults can safely resume activities indoors or outdoors without masks or distancing, in gatherings large or small. The announcement marks a major milestone in the effort to emerge from the coronavirus pandemic in the United States.

The new guidance was announced Thursday by CDC Director Dr. Rochelle Walensky.

"You can do things you stopped doing because of the pandemic," she said.

The new policy is based on recent real-world studies from Israel and the U.S. in people who've been vaccinated, she said.

In response to a question, Walensky said the federal mask requirement in public transportation remains in force for everyone, vaccinated or not – including on buses, trains, airplanes and in stations and airports.

"For travel, we are still asking people to continue wearing their masks," Walensky said. She said the policy continues to be under review.

Unvaccinated people "remain at risk" of illness and death, Walensky said, and should remain masked and observe physical distancing.

The new indoor masking guidance follows a CDC announcement two weeks ago that fully vaccinated people do not need to wear a mask when they're outdoors unless they're in a crowd, such as attending a live performance, sporting event or parade.

People are considered fully vaccinated two weeks after receiving the second dose of the Pfizer or Moderna vaccines, or two weeks after the single dose of the Johnson & Johnson shot.

a lot more "over" to me personally because I have a 13 year old son. I got an appointment scheduled for him as soon as the FDA approved it and the CDC signed off. I also have a 7 year old, but it's sounding like ages 2 and up will be able to get vaccinated by this summer. So it finally feels like there's a light at the end of the tunnel.

It might not be SO weird where I live, but between podcasts and forums I wonder how some of the coastal states are going to react to a gradual reopening. Working in service, I honestly sort of worry that we'll make the decision that all of our staff has been vaccinated (we have) and the city/fed no longer has a mask mandate (our city lifts in two weeks) and even at the height of the pandemic we only had one staff member contract the disease in their free time at a friend's birthday party, so...

LOGICALLY, we probably become one of the first spots to stop requiring employees to wear masks, right? But is that the right move from a PR perspective? Would people walk in wearing a mask, see us not wearing masks, and leave? And how long are we gonna have to think about that? What if somebody really gets on their soapbox and tries to Gavin Newsome the whole staff?

I feel like a lot of people got psychologically damaged by the past 18 months and the CDC saying "get back out there!" isn't gonna be enough for them.


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CDC prolly gonna change that shit in a week.

I actually like wearing a mask inside but outside I really don’t see the point unless in a crowd.

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It's no imposition on me to wear a mask, and I enjoy the added feeling of anonymity it provides.

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I enjoy the anonymity as well, and you’re going to see a lot of people
continue to wear masks because of that very reason.

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>It's no imposition on me to wear a mask, and I enjoy the
>added feeling of anonymity it provides.

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...I'm from the era when A.I. was the answer, now they think ai is the answer - Marlon Craft

I also hope that masks help with reducing the police states facial recognition software and videos.

thx but no thx

Now that we have 10 months of data this makes sense to do now.

These vaccines might literally be the most effective of any kind ever.

Lets hope it holds up!!

Now expect a slight surge from people who are not fully vaccinated to just lie about it for a while - but we'll get over that hump if the vaccines hold up!!!

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The people won't have it

This is not a static situation - things can change.

IF the COVID rates SPIKE HARD now and stay up then they might change it - but I think it's unlikely to happen.

But this is about data analysis.

Imagine a new variant that the vaccine is not effective against (I hope that does not happen.)

Or the people who are not vacc'd lie and spred it GREATLY.

I'm watching the numbers - but nothing is certain.

But the data showing vaccine effectiveness is AMAZING to me - I'm so happy right now. I've been vaccinated FULLY for 5 months now and each month has given me more certainty.

great news!

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I think this announcement today is more the CDC following public sentiment than the CDC following the data.

>I think this announcement today is more the CDC following
>public sentiment than the CDC following the data.

This is using the origianl trial participants, Israeli's studies and a new study on 5,000 domestic healthcare workers.

This isn't some shallow political grab by Biden/CDC like these goober ass governors have been doing. (Or at least it's not the way I understand it.)

I am looking for the study summaries, but I have hours of meetings coming up.

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people start dropping dead immediately left and right like people sneezing.

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we were seeing crazy numbers of close to 11k new cases per day. Now we’re at around 2000 new cases per day a few weeks later, and that’s directly related to vaccine availability. Early last month was when I got my first shot with the second a couple weeks later, and at time you still needed to be very strategic in finding a vaccination appointment. By the time of my second shot they were available everywhere, and by now a couple more weeks later the pharmacies and other sites are literally begging for people to come in and get vaccinated.

earlier this month. I feel like they had already received this information. We looked like aliens, going into places with masks on. Most employees weren’t rocking them.

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I live in Jacksonville and the amount of people not wearing masks has been high the ENTIRE pandemic. Florida is just full of dumbasses.

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Some of these folks still need masks for looks. I saw a lot of people in the warehouse this week that looked like non creepers until they took off the mask and showed their thin lips and weak jaw lines.

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I can't speak for everyone here, but I've shit on people for not following CDC guidelines for the last 15 months. Now that they say this is fine, I have a hard time with the cognitive dissonance of thinking they're saying something wrong.

It's the CDC.

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>I can't speak for everyone here, but I've shit on people for
>not following CDC guidelines for the last 15 months. Now that
>they say this is fine, I have a hard time with the cognitive
>dissonance of thinking they're saying something wrong.
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>It's the CDC.

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I'm just saying they know more than you and I.

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>I'm just saying they know more than you and I.

I won’t argue against that, but they have pivoted on multiple issues throughout this, it’s understandable that some folks won’t take their word as law immediately.

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https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2021/05/liberals-covid-19-science-denial-lockdown/618780/

I have friends like this who screamed "follow the science and CDC!" for nearly a year....until that science signaled an end to the Pandemic for vaccinated folks. I cant be hypocritical and separate their ignoring of science from Trump supporters doing the same.

Im a teacher so i'll still rock a mask at work because i havent caught a cold for the FIRST time in my entire career. But as far as the Rona, im vaccinated and will operate as if the vaccine works.

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I don't trust how fast these folks are looking to expose people again with variants continuing to proliferate. We could be right back at square one.

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I've been masked up, even 2 weeks post second shot. Never got covid, was very careful.

I get your question - but at what point are we going to stop worrying about what COULD happen? Thus far, with months of data, the vaccines have been effective against variants. I HATE to use the "It's only .XXX% of people to..." logic but in all honesty - when are we going to end the constant worrying?

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wearing masks even though the swine flu was in 2009 and not nearly as bad

I'm going to say that for a lot of people it's never

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

But at THIS point it feels like that is totally fine as a personal choice. I’ll likely adopt it for plane rides, myself but if I CAN go massless in my day-to-day? I’m doing it.

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And in the months since, haven't been on one.

I guess my feeling now is that close quarters with that many people for that long, without a place to get fresh air, etc feels a bit dangerous now. Which is definitely part paranoia, I'm sure. But a friend told me he'd adopted masks on planes before the pandemic and found it to be something that helped not feel dried out when he landed, so I'll give that a shot. If you feel refreshed after a flight while wearing a mask, I don't care if it's placebo - I need that.

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This is somewhat based on my own situation, I guess. I want things to be "normal" like anyone else, but let's be real about it first. We very likely will hit 600,000 deaths in the near future. I want to see if Biden or the administration does a memorial then. I voted for him and this is all on 45's watch as far as I'm concerned.

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-Uncle Sam and Santa Clause are good buddies.
-Be selfless and the world will be a better place.

I guess I mostly agree, and I think Biden has done - to say it lightly - a much better job than Trump. But all in all, our government completely failed us - obviously. I don't know where the memorials end - but at some point, I imagine there'd be a memorial when the pandemic is designated as "over" - otherwise, we're doing it every what...50k? 100k? It seems weird.

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I think it's good to memorialize from the standpoint of remembering how stupid we were/are as a country. We have to do better and self shaming seems to be effective. This illusion of being infallible needs to end before we can do better. I hope these jokers in the CDC are right this time. ::Looks at India::

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indicated otherwise?

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

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What didn't make a lot of sense was the CDC previously tauting how effective the vaccine was, and also saying vaccinated people should continue to wear mask. I made it make sense that the reasoning was to encourage non-vaccinated people to continue to wear masks in public. Other than that, it didn't make a lot of sense from a medical perspective given what was being said about how well the vaccines work.


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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

it made plenty of sense


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Same virus, less killing.

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and I'm much less likely to spread the disease

I still don't want to get it

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

You wearing an N95?

and since I know how math works

I don't misread numbers to believe that "less than 100 percent protection"

equals

"no protection whatsoever"

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

Seems like you are >< this close to saying it was an overblown hoax.


You ok?

And there was a big concern about how to motive people to wear masks when people are selfish and care only about themselves?

Unless I'm behind on the latest science. Last I heard:

Plain cotton masks are effective at catching large droplets that get expelled and spread long distances from your mouth when you talk or breathe. Thus, stay distant and/or wear a mask.

But those masks aren't effective in filtering out tiny particles in the air. Those are still coming in and out. So unless you're getting directly spit on at close range, a cloth mask doesn't do much to protect the wearer.

Again, that is the last I remember hearing.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

when I don’t want to stop and talk to someone. I’ve got some Larry David in me. I will miss that aspect of mask wearing when it’s gone.

But thats just me.

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people. Its almost footnote but they are saying the risk is the still the same for the unvaccinated.

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"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

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when people can go out without masks and lie about being vaccinated?

I'd guess most everyone who wants to be vaxxed is. The people who don't WILL lie. And I'm not sure how many people are on the fence. But if they're on the fence, they're there because they want to make sure the vaccine is safe, so they'll eventually get vaccinated if they feel it is.

Basically at this point - I'm not even sure the campaign for the vaccine is moving the needle. It's not hurting, for sure. But is it helping now while every adult can get vaxxed if they want to?

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What difference does it make?

If someone is going to lie, no encouragement will push them to get it unless there is some mandate/verification. And I don't think we'll ever go that route

This is for those on fringe and hesitant. Those hardcore Trump supporters or anti-vaxxers are a lost cause. This isnt for them

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Which is why I’m still masking and staying away from folks until my three year old can get a shot.

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Did the CDC issue guidance that says otherwise?? Did I miss it?

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My daughter wears her mask with no complaints. She is a human that speaks English so she understands "vaccinated and not vaccinated."

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If we don’t wear ours, she’s less likely to feel comfortable wearing hers.

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>My daughter wears her mask with no complaints. She is a human
>that speaks English so she understands "vaccinated and not
>vaccinated."



What a disappointing reply from a "teacher".

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It is my profession. You doing air quotes takes nothing away from the fact that my job requires me to know how to get teenagers and kids to do the responsible thing, even if they don't like it. To imply that the mask ruling is somehow dangerous because kids cant get vaccinated is ridiculous. I explain to my kid why she cant use sharp knives, while using a sharp knife myself. There's all kinds of things adults do that kids cant. Or protection (knee pads, elbow pads, seat belts on swings, etc) that kids have to wear that adults dont. Stop trying to complicate a win for vaccines and science. "teacher"

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Went to a restaurant. Ate outside. We both went inside to use the bathroom. She put on a mask and i didnt. It wasnt really a shot at you, it was a joke. But the original posters reply that its somehow irresponsible to say "you have the vaccine, no need for mask" because kids cant get it yet implies that kids or teens dont have the capacity to understand the idea of protection. When their entire life already revolves around things adults can do and kids cant.

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these kids are not staying masked up and are testing positive left and right.

2 kids in my wife’s class were positive

and the chair of her department has a daughter who tested positive.

My kids are only 3 and 5 but when we go to the park and other kids aren’t masked, they run and ask if they can take theirs off.

While we want to believe kids will be responsible trust and believe when they are not on our presence the chances of them going with the crowd is high af.

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I've had to be continuously creative to get the three year old to wear hers.
And I've had to listen to how she feels
Yes she's three, but she's a person, and she has her own feelings.

Sometimes she doesn't like when she's the only kid with a mask, sometimes the mask hurts, or it's too big, or too small, or the material is funny ... etc.

But I know the biggest thing to help her is me showing solidarity with her.

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was trying to get my daughters to take their mask off.

“ask you dad if you can take it off”

little girl was a demon.. lol. She thought she was whispering:

“my dad says no all the time.. its what dads do. Tell your dad he needs to say yes if he wants you to say yes to him”

my daughter walked over to repeat what she just heard and try it on me.

me: “don’t let your little friend get you in trouble by repeating what you just heard”

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