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double negative
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"Yo, this push to work from home is bullshit. "


  

          

Covid-19 has upped the talks of working from home again to the national level. SO MANY PEOPLE are talking about how it's sooooo amazing.

I think it's bullshit.

My department is works from home at such a level our pod is only at full capacity Monday's, Tuesday and Thursday. Outside of those days, everyone is out at home working in peace.


I like going into the office. Two young ass kids, pretty much the only peace and me time I get is going to work. I'm not a work-is-life sort of person. Coworkers are NOT friends - who am at work is not who I am anywhere else.

You know what else I like? LEAVING THE FUCKING OFFICE WHEN THE DAY IS OVER. You can't do that if where you work is where you sleep.

The commute home is just time to switch over to the next context/location,

I could see how working from home could turn out to be bad for a lot of people .I suspect most people don't even leave the house, shower or talk to other humans for days at a time. It's bleak and depressing really.

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Gotta disagree with you
Mar 05th 2020
1
Change "FL" to "MA" and I'm 100% word for word here.
Mar 05th 2020
3
      I don't miss my commutes up and down 95/128 during rush hour
Mar 05th 2020
6
           Totally.
Mar 05th 2020
9
switching on and off at home takes practice if you're not used to it
Mar 05th 2020
I actually get more easily distracted at the office.
Mar 05th 2020
5
I'm trying to get better about this as I hope to eventually go full remo...
Mar 05th 2020
7
      having a dedicated space is mandatory
Mar 05th 2020
8
i could get with this
Mar 05th 2020
2
I thought I would love working from home until... I did
Mar 05th 2020
4
of if you don't like sitting in an office all day
Mar 05th 2020
10
Sounds like an extrovert problem, bruh.
Mar 05th 2020
12
lol.. I’m not surprised at your reaction
Mar 05th 2020
14
What new people are you meeting in the office?
Mar 06th 2020
44
      Just hired a brotha last week.
Mar 07th 2020
47
Nah. I'd gladly WFH from now 'til infinity
Mar 05th 2020
11
simple solution, just go live at the office
Mar 05th 2020
13
Felt.
Mar 05th 2020
15
90 minute commute for me about to be 90 seconds...
Mar 05th 2020
16
i stand in solidarity with you.
Mar 05th 2020
17
Without adequate space, WFH is punishment for me.
Mar 05th 2020
18
Hmm. Maybe it can vary depending on the job/employer too?
Mar 05th 2020
19
i'd rather work remotely than not
Mar 05th 2020
20
i need somewhere to be every day
Mar 05th 2020
21
An aside/slightly off-topic
Mar 05th 2020
22
can i use this as a dr's note for my boss?
Mar 05th 2020
23
you know, thats an excellent point.
Mar 06th 2020
34
Ive been WFH full time for 5 years
Mar 05th 2020
24
i basically cannot turn back now
Mar 06th 2020
38
Oh, I really liked this
Mar 05th 2020
25
go to a coffee shop?
Mar 05th 2020
26
i do this every once in a while
Mar 06th 2020
37
I worked from home for 12 weeks while i recovered from
Mar 06th 2020
27
the ability to work remotely doesn't necessarily mean work from HOME...
Mar 06th 2020
28
Working from home Day 2:
Mar 06th 2020
29
Running to get hardware = running to train a lunch jiujitsu class
Mar 06th 2020
40
I hear you...
Mar 06th 2020
30
I think its bs because because so many jobs
Mar 06th 2020
31
time off policies should be adjusted...
Mar 06th 2020
32
      that.
Mar 06th 2020
33
      absolutely
Mar 06th 2020
39
you know you don't have to be at home right?
Mar 06th 2020
35
30......days.....later...
Apr 03rd 2020
49
      https://i.gifer.com/GFXd.gif
Apr 03rd 2020
50
idk man working from home is kinda amazing
Mar 06th 2020
36
you see it
Mar 06th 2020
42
detached office for the win
Mar 06th 2020
41
Never, ever want to work in an office/ cubicle again
Mar 06th 2020
43
i hate going to the office. open landscape is the worst shit on earth.
Mar 06th 2020
45
Depends on how bad your commute is.
Mar 07th 2020
46
Working from home has been bullshit
Apr 03rd 2020
48
i love this work from home shit...
Apr 03rd 2020
51
I miss some of my coworkers but other than that I am LOVING it
Apr 03rd 2020
52
Yup!
Apr 03rd 2020
54
Working from home has been AWESOME so far
Apr 03rd 2020
53
already there
Apr 04th 2020
55
I like 1 or 2 days in the office for collaboration and socializing
Apr 04th 2020
56
I'm much more efficient, for sure.
Apr 04th 2020
57
Work from home FTW
Jun 08th 2021
58
Work from home infrastructure could enable
Jun 08th 2021
59
that's what the unions are saying.. also why they want WFH deaded..
Jun 08th 2021
61
I'm not really sure how that applies
Jun 09th 2021
63
      You’re referring to outsourcing an entire office?
Jun 09th 2021
64
           I think you're wrong man
Jun 09th 2021
72
           I hope you're right. n/m
Jun 09th 2021
76
           I've been working from home 100% since like 2008
Jun 09th 2021
73
LOVE it
Jun 08th 2021
60
I have no intention on returning to the office
Jun 08th 2021
62
Tell me you weird without telling me you weird nm
Jun 09th 2021
65
What do offices look like again?
Jun 09th 2021
66
Well, well, well. Hello past me.
Jun 09th 2021
67
People with kids, elders and health issues need a pass
Jun 09th 2021
68
      Man. It was a fucking grind. THIS IS NOT LIVING.
Jun 09th 2021
69
           I’m glad to be back in the office
Jun 09th 2021
75
changed my mind. WFH rocks when you work for a real company
Jun 09th 2021
70
gave a talk at a conference the other day. In person conferences
Jun 09th 2021
71
I don’t know if I can make it through the summer…..
Jun 09th 2021
74
Yeah, I have zero interest in ever going back.
Jun 09th 2021
77
Yea thankfully my company has changed their tune.
Jun 09th 2021
79
i'm about to quit my job bc they're making us come back in
Jun 09th 2021
78
That's fucked up.
Jun 09th 2021
80

walihorse
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1. "Gotta disagree with you"
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I can work from home on certain with my job. I love it. granted, I do not have kids.

Commuting is bullshit. Having to deal with FL drivers is such a pain in the ass. My wife has an almost hour commute on highway everyday. Its stressful as hell.

If a fat guy falls in the woods and there is no one around to see it, do the trees laugh?

  

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Brew
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3. "Change "FL" to "MA" and I'm 100% word for word here."
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>I can work from home on certain with my job. I love it.
>granted, I do not have kids.
>
>Commuting is bullshit. Having to deal with FL drivers is such
>a pain in the ass. My wife has an almost hour commute on
>highway everyday. Its stressful as hell.

I don't think I'd want to do it every day, I see part of OP's argument that shifting mindsets is good and important, as is getting the eff out of the house. TBH if I had a full time WFH job (I'm 1-2 days a week at home as it is now) I'd probably head out to a coffee shop to work 50% of the time just to get out of sweatpants and see other humans.

But I need the flexibility and in this day and age there's really no good reason why any white collar, cubicle-centric company wouldn't allow it. Makes no sense.

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6. "I don't miss my commutes up and down 95/128 during rush hour"
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Now I'm on the Red Line which obviously has it's own problems, the derailment over the summer drove me insane and led me to WFH minimum twice per week, but day to day I'll take my consistent, usually scar free commute on the T over sitting in that traffic.

It also helps that I'm a 5 min walk to the train I and even shorter walk to the office from my final stop.

  

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Brew
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9. "Totally."
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My office is in Burlington (and I live in Boston) so I know that 95/128 bullshit well. Thankfully, like 6 months ago I discovered an easy alternate route that goes through Woburn which allows me to avoid 95 altogether. It saves me an average of like 20-25 minutes each way on the days when I do go into the office.

Impossible to put into words the improved quality of life I've experienced since I found this route. Happened totally by accident and thank god it did. There were dozens of days I considered just calling in and quitting while I was sitting in that parking lot on 95/128 haha.


>RE: I don't miss my commutes up and down 95/128 during rush hour
>Now I'm on the Red Line which obviously has it's own
>problems, the derailment over the summer drove me insane and
>led me to WFH minimum twice per week, but day to day I'll take
>my consistent, usually scar free commute on the T over sitting
>in that traffic.
>
>It also helps that I'm a 5 min walk to the train I and even
>shorter walk to the office from my final stop.

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hardware
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"switching on and off at home takes practice if you're not used to it"


          

and you gotta make sure other people know you're still AT WORK.

The biggest problem for me is that its easy to get distracted.

  

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Brew
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5. "I actually get more easily distracted at the office."
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But everyone's work and home situations are different, obviously.


>The biggest problem for me is that its easy to get
>distracted.

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7. "I'm trying to get better about this as I hope to eventually go full remo..."
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Having a dedicated office space in your home is probably the key, but I don't have that space at the moment. Having a desk with monitor real estate is essential, but I gotta work on getting into "work mode" while in the same room I do a lot of literal and figurative fucking around is the main challenge I face.

  

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8. "having a dedicated space is mandatory"
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>Having a dedicated office space in your home is probably the
>key, but I don't have that space at the moment. Having a desk
>with monitor real estate is essential, but I gotta work on
>getting into "work mode" while in the same room I do a lot of
>literal and figurative fucking around is the main challenge I
>face.

some people can have it both ways, but if your computer is in the same room as the bed, couch, and or TV, its gonna be a struggle. The mental hurdle is hard to get over. Thats why people just go to a cafe and work.

  

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mista k5
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2. "i could get with this"
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>I suspect most people don't even leave the
>house, shower or talk to other humans for days at a time.

except for the no shower part

  

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4. "I thought I would love working from home until... I did"
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That shit wasn’t for me.

Didn’t have kids at the time either. I was in Brooklyn and after 2 or 3 days without going outside I had to force myself to start taking lunch breaks outside the house.

Everyone thought i was living the life but it sucked. I like meeting knew people. I like the random convos I have while walking around the office or outside the office. This is why so many people end up at Starbucks... lol.

But if you hate people I can see how it’s the perfect gig.



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10. "of if you don't like sitting in an office all day"
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>But if you hate people I can see how it’s the perfect gig.
>

i mean, if you're working from home you have to act like you're at work for the most part. you have to take the lunch break, show up at the same time on time, turn it off when its time to punch out even if you don't finish. If you're working with other people just communicate.

  

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12. "Sounds like an extrovert problem, bruh."
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Thu Mar-05-20 04:32 PM by flipnile

          

*not* going outside all day is relaxing-as-fuck to me.


Edit:

Also, introverts don't hate people, we're just secure with ourselves, so we enjoy our own company and can entertain ourselves.

Extraverts seem needy-as-fuck, as they always gotta have attention & outside stimulation from others.

>But if you hate people I can see how it’s the perfect gig.

  

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14. "lol.. I’m not surprised at your reaction "
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Different people need different things.

I hope you find a wfh gig so you can be at peace.

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44. "What new people are you meeting in the office?"
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I see the same damn people I have seen for the last 10 years. Same stories about kids, baking ideas, animals, illnesses and vacations.

There is nothing else I need to learn about my coworkers. Get that spreadsheet uploaded on the shared network so we can go home!

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47. "Just hired a brotha last week. "
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but it’s not just in the office. It’s outside of the office as well.

I have small kids so all my time is spent at home or doing kid things outside of work.

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11. "Nah. I'd gladly WFH from now 'til infinity"
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Got a little studio I set up in a spare room in my house. Got a porch, yard and back patio I can work in too, as well as a living room, dining room and kitchen table. I'd gladly never go back to working in dumb-ass offices around goofball-ass extraverts if I could.

  

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13. "simple solution, just go live at the office"
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15. "Felt. "
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Wife been on telework for years and it's cool for her because she's the type that can actually be MORE efficient and effective working from home.
ME??? PSSShhhhht.....if I'm at home I MIGHT answer a few emails lol...


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16. "90 minute commute for me about to be 90 seconds..."
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...i'll enjoy this work from home thing while it lasts


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17. "i stand in solidarity with you."
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praying there doesn't come a day where the bosses make us work from home.

for all the reason's you stated PLUS i don't even have a good space to work from home and be efficient.

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18. "Without adequate space, WFH is punishment for me."
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19. "Hmm. Maybe it can vary depending on the job/employer too?"
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I've wavered, I think.

My 2 most recent jobs involved:

-one where I had a ton of flexibility, could just log in remotely from my own computer/tab for whatever I needed, and basically only had to go on-site 1-2 days a week

v.

-one where there was virtually no flexibility, you had to sign multiple agreements just to be authorized to work off-site, and the data, work equipment, and VPN we had to use were so tightly controlled that you could only use them in off-site locations approved prior and the location had to meet very specific criteria.


I enjoyed WFH in the first scenario and was often most productive there. But then.. I preferred to work on-site in the second scenario and was often most productive there lol

Commute was equidistant between the 2 jobs so I don't think that had anything to do with it. I had a good work crew at both too, so I don't think it was social. The only other things I think might have factored of are that in the first scenario, the PM on one of my projects was a dragon and I/everyone tried to limit interaction with her as much as possible lol, and in the second scenario there was a lot more regulation surrounding WFH so it felt more serious or burdensome or something... like a whole planned event. My boss even offered 1 pre-approved day/wk to WFH and I rarely took it.

  

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20. "i'd rather work remotely than not"
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Thu Mar-05-20 05:36 PM by Crash Bandacoot

          

quality of life is a concern where i live (cost of living, traffic, resources) people
can be a drain. i'd rather be in my own space to get work done. but yeah, the
trouble arises when work blends too much into home. you have to know when to
cut off (no overtime) and detach.

  

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21. "i need somewhere to be every day"
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i do not like associating my home space where i relax with my work space where i am stressed

  

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22. "An aside/slightly off-topic"
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A lot of people conflate WFH with remote work.

WFH is a TYPE of remote work. Just like getting a coworking space is a type of remote work.

One thing that really bothered me at my last job is that my desire to work REMOTELY, usually from a coffee shop within 5-15 minutes from the office, was always conflated with "She wants to work from home" or "She is working from home." I only did WFM a handful of times, when winters made roads dangerous and my team was advised to keep our asses home.

Now, there's nothing wrong with working from home in your PJs, etc., but I never wanted that. I live with my 'rents and my mom babysits small grandchildren throughout the day. I also have no real dedicated office space. WFH would not work unless I turned my bedroom into a workspace which is a MAJOR hell-no option.

I did have a 100% remote job in 2016-2017 and mostly worked from home but I had my own apartment back then. Contrary to what folks might think, I generally got up when I normally would, showered and put on casual attire.

I was not sitting in my PJs with a crusty azz for days at a time. This is a tired cliche like the mythical broke millennial who makes no real income blogging in their parent's basement for living.

WFH and other remote options are great for people who:
- don't like their boss and/or select co-workers
- people who don't want to: sit in traffic, use public restrooms
- have introvert tendencies
- want flexibility
- comfort (workplaces can be uncomfortable for an array of reasons, such as office temperature)
- eat/cook lunch at home
- are distracted in the workplace
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OP: Have you considered a coffee shop? library? coworking space?

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23. "can i use this as a dr's note for my boss?"
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>WFH and other remote options are great for people who:
>- don't like their boss and/or select co-workers
>- people who don't want to: sit in traffic, use public
>restrooms
>- have introvert tendencies
>- want flexibility
>- comfort (workplaces can be uncomfortable for an array of
>reasons, such as office temperature)
>- eat/cook lunch at home
>- are distracted in the workplace
>-

  

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34. "you know, thats an excellent point. "
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at my last job, I would come in have a stand up with the dev team and then go fuck off to a library (which, low key, libraries are fucking superior work spaces and I love that it's kind of an open secret).

the office was in an upscale version of wework and we had a teeny suite shared by 4 other dudes. I had to get the fuck out of dodge to get work done and I had agreement with management - it doesnt matter how stuff gets done, just get it done, be available for questions, don't make life hard for anyone.

the current job is in an extremely old school, brand name spot and they are all about face time - I can't just grab my laptop and go work at a library, I mean, I could after thorough communication and clearance, but thats not inspiring

For me as a designer, when I'm really set up I need to be able to work on my 32 inch monitor, design work on the 15 macbook just aint the same.

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24. "Ive been WFH full time for 5 years"
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I think its fucking great. Its not for everyone though.

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38. "i basically cannot turn back now"
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like the idea of havin to go into an office or business everyday?



"Not me"

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25. "Oh, I really liked this"
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>You know what else I like? LEAVING THE FUCKING OFFICE WHEN THE
>DAY IS OVER. You can't do that if where you work is where you
>sleep.

You've got a good handle on how things should work. Respect, sir.

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26. "go to a coffee shop?"
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37. "i do this every once in a while"
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breaks up the monotony of that WFH life

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27. "I worked from home for 12 weeks while i recovered from"
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Achillies surgery...crutches, cast and a cpu in my living room....best 12 weeks of my life

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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28. "the ability to work remotely doesn't necessarily mean work from HOME..."
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take your ass outside, there's wifi almost everywhere now. People that just stay home every day in their pajamas are probably losers lol

  

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29. "Working from home Day 2:"
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Listening to hella jazz records in my sweats.

What's not to like?

Had some hardware issues yesterday, had to run out to PC Richards, come home, then go to Best Buy (TWICE)

But today, smooth sailing.

  

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40. "Running to get hardware = running to train a lunch jiujitsu class"
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I see you bro.


At least thats what id do

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now I’m back home my family can be a distraction but I still love.

  

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31. "I think its bs because because so many jobs"
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can't be done from home. what are they telling food service people, uber (eats) drivers, public transpo folks?

but as an office worker, I do appreciate the option to stay at the house when I need to.

we had chick here in my building with the whole flu. she didn't know it was flu until she went to the doc later that day, but she should've not come in at all.

I blame her management. got people scared for their jobs and afraid to stay away.

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32. "time off policies should be adjusted..."
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in the past, I’ve gone to work sick because i didn’t have sick time. coworker would be mad as hell. Employers should think about adjusting the policy with this corona thing...

  

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33. "that."
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and they should move into having mandatory days available for folks to be off. working too much makes more people sick and companies loose more money.

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39. "absolutely"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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35. "you know you don't have to be at home right?"
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libraries, co-work spaces, Panera Bread, coffee shops are all very easy to use and within like 5 minutes of my house. when i was full time working from home for a few years, i'd often mix it up and go somewhere other than home when it got boring. in the summer when the kids are out of school, we'd hire a babysitter to be there during the day to keep the kids occupied and out of my hair. for all the money i saved not commuting this was a negligible expense.

  

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49. "30......days.....later..."
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50. "https://i.gifer.com/GFXd.gif"
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https://i.gifer.com/GFXd.gif

  

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36. "idk man working from home is kinda amazing"
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i do it three to four days out the week (pandemic or no pandemic)


and its kinda fuckin glorious



I never have to see my coworkers.

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42. "you see it"
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>I never have to see my coworkers.

When I go into our office a few times a year I find it fucking exhausting. People don't realize what work/life balance really is. A lot of the nonsense people are concerned with in the office I am completely oblivious too.

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41. "detached office for the win"
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43. "Never, ever want to work in an office/ cubicle again"
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I work from home in two-week intervals. It is absolutely amazing. When I do go in the office, coworkers are hugging me, lounging near my cube and I have to turn down lunch dates. I am very friendly and an extrovert. The office becomes an overload for me and I can't get any work done.

When I work from home, I am a productive beast. So focused, clear, quiet and cuts my workload in half.

I think monthly office retreats would work for me, but day in commuting, office chatter, cubicles and flourescent lights just do not work for me and I hope to never return to a regular 9-5 schedule.

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45. "i hate going to the office. open landscape is the worst shit on earth. "
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i'm way more productive from the crib. (i was on WFH for about 15 years before the current job).

my stupid ass 2nd line mgr flew to thailand (vac w/ his young asian wife's fam) during all this shit and caught some other virus from mosquitos. walking all fucked up b/c it attacks your joints and messes you up for like 4 mos. meantime, he goes to the emergency room b/c of that. figures they are trying to quarantine him and bounces out the hospital.

and bragging in the office about it. just b/c you know you got one thing don't mean you don't got the other thing. i spray lysol whenever his dumbass walk through.

he been in the office 2 days out of the last 2 weeks.


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46. "Depends on how bad your commute is."
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I totally get it with the kids thing -- I have a young kid but he's in preschool so not a distraction.

I have a split commute like you and it works great for me.

My commute is awful so the 2 days a week I WFH are a huge reprieve; I don't have to wake up super early to beat the traffic.

It can be isolating and I do sometimes force myself to go outside. I think most people tend to work longer hours at home too and it's easy to do if you don't watch out there.

Upsides include being able to more easily run errands and stuff like being able to do laundry while working, etc.

I don't mind the in-person vs virtual meetings. If I am craving working around other people I take my laptop to a nearby coffee shop and work from there for a bit.

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48. "Working from home has been bullshit"
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The push to, not so much

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51. "i love this work from home shit... "
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...not only an i way more productive ..the day flies by and i get to have breakfast, lunch and dinner with my kids ..thats something i've missed out on weekdays my entire live


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52. "I miss some of my coworkers but other than that I am LOVING it"
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The big thing is that I don’t have to pretend that there’s 8 hrs of work to do in a day. I get up about 9 or 10, mess around for a bit and log off at 2 or 3

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54. "Yup!"
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I get the same amount of work done, probably more, than I would in the office and I work less hours. A lot of people are going to be wondering why they haven't been working from home the whole time by the time this is over.

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53. "Working from home has been AWESOME so far"
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- No more waking up at 6-something in the morning
- No more commuting through rush hour traffic
- No more office full of noisy-ass people being irritating all day
- No more bullshit office politics
- No more being around the Matrix/Sheep herds of consumers downtown


On the plus side:

- More time with my child
- I get mad sleep now
- I can eat healthy, home-cooked meals
- Workout at lunch, nap in the afternoon
- I can schedule my day in a way that's best for ME
- I get to actually spend time in my biggest $$$ investment... my house



Do not want to go back to the plantation. Fuck that.

  

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55. "already there "
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a lot of my routine is thrown off by this all, but I've no children or pets to tend to, so I'm good.

I really find myself looking to Saturdays now.

  

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56. "I like 1 or 2 days in the office for collaboration and socializing"
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I used to split time between home, my company's HQ and my client site and I found that challenging but invigorating. I'd be most productive at home and less so at the client site and HQ but I got more of the socialization outside of the house.

So now, working at home exclusively, I'm being productive but haven't talked to a couple people who are directly involved with my projects in 3 weeks. I'll try Skyping and video chatting but those are generally poor approximations of being in the same room with someone and being able to just shoot the shit on whatever comes to mind.

Then there's the kids aspect right now, which basically has my wife and I both working an extra 4+ hours watching the kids while the other partner works.

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57. "I'm much more efficient, for sure."
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But also, there's less to do...so it's probably more that.

A huge portion of my job is going out and watching live comedy so...

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58. "Work from home FTW"
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59. "Work from home infrastructure could enable"
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Outsourcing like crazy. Both domestically, and even international.

Interesting times.

  

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61. "that's what the unions are saying.. also why they want WFH deaded.."
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63. "I'm not really sure how that applies"
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you could outsource office jobs way easier than outsourcing wfh.

www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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64. "You’re referring to outsourcing an entire office?"
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Like, moving your whole office to another state/country?

I think wfh would enable you to just move certain office jobs, which seems “easier”/more flexible, no?

Maybe I’m misunderstanding your meaning.

*edit* Right now, isn’t every company in NYC/LA thinking, what if all low-level employees came from Tennessee or North Carolina, so we could pay those prevailing wages instead of NY/LA wages? With wfh, they might be able to.

Some companies do just move whole offices to those states where possible, but these companies have been able to do that already and presumably have already done so.

I’m talking about other companies that, due to other factors (real estate, locations of key stakeholders or partners) need to maintain physical presences somewhere with high cost of living, but can now outsource more work thanks to wfh.

  

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72. "I think you're wrong man"
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people have been outsourcing forever. it's a lot easier to pop up an office in an area where the cot of living is lower


than to find 50 random people who work from home and have reliable internet and all the skills necessary to do a job without face to face contact.


like it sounds easy but it is not


www.engadgethd.com - the other stuff i'm looking at

  

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76. "I hope you're right. n/m"
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73. "I've been working from home 100% since like 2008"
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I have coworkers in other countries I've either met once or never

one of my coworkers now does speeeches and consulting about remote work

it's just not that easy

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60. "LOVE it"
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I only need go to the office 1-2 times a week for a couple hrs each day (if that) for anything I can't do at home

don't miss co-workers
able to run errands, take dad to doctor appts easier

  

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62. "I have no intention on returning to the office"
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I want to experience real telework with kids in school, open coffee shops, and outdoor meetings. I have no problem meeting with my coworkers when necessary in person. But I will never sit in a cold grey cubicle staring at florescent lights for 8 hours EVER again.

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65. "Tell me you weird without telling me you weird nm"
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66. "What do offices look like again?"
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wait don't answer cuz i don't care LOL

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67. "Well, well, well. Hello past me. "
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1. I still relate to the OG sentiment of the post, BUUUUUT,

2. we moved and I have a dedicated office with a door and a desk and its just a comfortable fucking place to be. Its the perfect office.

3. That time was fucking horrible, my wife started a new job, we had no care for the kids so that shit was on me and seriously fuck that time. I was a single dad essentially, I cooked, took care of them and nearly lost my job. on top of all that, my wife would say "we never spend time together" like....dont you see...nvm.

4. we return to the office in september and I am not here for it. I would like to do A DAY a week and I am not alone. they are trying to work out a place where we are eventually doing 2 days in the office and three at home. Before covid the arrangement was, 3 days in, 2 days home.

5. I'm more inclined now to just go and find a job thats remote and pays more and do it for the next...4 years until the kids grow past the young kid stage

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Mori
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68. "People with kids, elders and health issues need a pass"
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Wed Jun-09-21 10:54 AM by Mori

          

There is no way to effectively parent, love your spouse, care for the home, and get work done.

My boss got upset when I missed a 9am meeting on a day when my kid needed to be at school at 8:45am and there is no before care.

I just ignored her and told her that I am no longer able to attend meetings before 11am. Send me the notes. I was on my Naomi Osaka and ready to deal with the repercussions.

This work culture in America is toxic and fucked up. Women used to be at home to handle everything but now that is not the case. Our work culture needs to accommodate families of all types.

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69. "Man. It was a fucking grind. THIS IS NOT LIVING. "
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before covid, I was spending 2 hours commuting each day. Then since I do most of the cooking shit was just all out of order. The bedtime for the kids is 7 and we were walking by 7 and that was before dinner and bath time.

Also, I was missing out on seeing my kids grow.

90& of my job is solo cognitive labor. They only want butts in seats to justify the lease.

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legsdiamond
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75. "I’m glad to be back in the office"
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but again, I would love to try WFH without young kids.

They just need too much attention and the guilt of “Daddy and Mommy are always working” is shitty af.

we got rid of a few people who work remotely because they were chilling way too hard

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BrooklynWHAT
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70. "changed my mind. WFH rocks when you work for a real company"
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that trusts you are doing your job.

my old job, the pandemic was the worst thing to ever happen to them because they couldnt make us sit in the office all day and micromanage everyone. they are very boomer minded and are failing miserably because of it.

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71. "gave a talk at a conference the other day. In person conferences "
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way better than virtual conferences. But, I love working from home.

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FLUIDJ
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74. "I don’t know if I can make it through the summer….."
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This should probably be a CW post though lol…

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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mrhood75
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77. "Yeah, I have zero interest in ever going back. "
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My job has admitted multiple times that we were just as productive away from the office as we were in it. I personally feel more productive. But they’re still on that “We do out best work in the office” horseshit, which they can miss me with. I’ve yet to set foot back there, and I’m planning on holding on for as long as I can.

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79. "Yea thankfully my company has changed their tune."
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Wed Jun-09-21 02:11 PM by Brew

          

Just before quarantine started last year, they were basically "over my dead body" re: the entire office working remotely. Obviously by mid-March or whenever it was they had no choice. And my company just about doubled revenue 2020 over 2019, while everyone was working remotely. So they wouldn't have a case to begin with.

But once the announcement was made that Mass would be doing away with all COVID-related restrictions come June 1st, there was chatter amongst the non-management employees on Teams, all concerned that we may ultimately be asked to come back. So me and a few others were strategizing how we could come together to basically tell them to go fuck themselves, if we ever had to cross that bridge.

But there's been no word from the Owner/Prez nor the VP (my boss), and a guy I work with closely who speaks with the Prez and VP more often than I do, told me that he has come away from his discussions with them thinking that we are forging ahead as is for the foreseeable future.

Which is a relief. Even if COVID never happened, I was gonna make a push to work from home the majority of the time at some point last year anyway. My commute is absolute dogg shit and wastes no less than 3 hours of my day when I factor in waking up earlier, getting ready, sitting in traffic, and shit like that. I wouldn't mind going in to the office a couple times a month just for the social aspect, but other than that I'm good.

I'm more productive at home and can multi-task too which has been nice. If I have 20 mins free I'll toss in some laundry, take a jog by the water, go sit at the beach up the street, etc. My stress levels are way lower which in turn makes me a far more motivated, productive worker. Go figure.

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bearfield
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78. "i'm about to quit my job bc they're making us come back in"
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with almost zero safety measures. i'm in AR, which is has a vaccination rate of just over 30%. there will no testing required at work, only a temperature check (futile). no required vaccinations. the most minimal of social distancing in the work space. they're going to try to cram us in at 5.9 ft per person if they can. no partitions up in the work space so folks can just run up on you. no masks required at your work station. really cynical shit. i asked my manager what my recourse was if/when other employees weren't respecting the safety guidelines and they said, "you're just going to have to accept that other people aren't going to follow the guidelines." absolute insanity

  

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Brew
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80. "That's fucked up."
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You have way better reasons to do so, but I'd planned on threatening to quit if I was asked (or worse, told) to come back in full time as well. Just to make a point. I'm fortunate in that I'm pretty marketable in my line of work, and I say that to mean I recognize that I'm privileged to have that kind of bargaining power at my disposal if I needed it.

But as I noted above, thankfully it doesn't appear that I'll have to use it. And that's a credit to my company's brass. They've always given me a lot of autonomy so it should come as no surprise, but you just never know.

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