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"Can we finally talk about Kanye's The Life of Pablo?"
Sun Feb-14-16 08:17 AM by Buddy_Gilapagos

  

          

It's out there. Not the antics. Not the rants. The music. What y'all think?

After first listen my main reaction is that it could stand to be more focused. Like 30 hours could have been insane with a little more focused. Give 3000 time to give you an actual verse. Same with Father Stretch My Hands...

He could have built a song around I use to love Kanye.

Alot of the songs seem like sketches of great songs that could have used a few more passes.

Actually, I am thinking what I pulled down may not have been the final finished album.

Will give another listen.

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dl'ing it now. this is yeezy sunday 4 me
Feb 14th 2016
1
Not for me
Feb 14th 2016
2
Its just a totally different aestethic
Feb 14th 2016
5
Yeah, this is some Andre 3000 shit
Feb 14th 2016
3
It's good to great. There's stuff for all stages of his fans
Feb 14th 2016
4
RE: It's good to great. There's stuff for all stages of his fans
Feb 14th 2016
6
Ahhh that's why I don't really love those songs
Feb 17th 2016
152
his 2nd worst album to yeezus.
Feb 14th 2016
7
It came out 12 hours ago my goodness
Feb 14th 2016
24
      Lmao
Feb 14th 2016
25
      did you say the same thing to niggas praising it?
Feb 14th 2016
68
           Man, shut up and just be wrong.
Feb 15th 2016
82
                just like whatever you like and get off my dick.
Feb 15th 2016
84
                     I strongly dislike Yeezus you weirdo.
Feb 15th 2016
85
                          you reppin butthurt mafia gang right now.
Feb 15th 2016
86
                               Like honestly what's it like to be so fucking weird?
Feb 15th 2016
94
The new version of Facts is MUCH better then the old
Feb 14th 2016
8
the new Facts is AWESOME.
Feb 14th 2016
72
      Yeah I can't believe I fux with this
Feb 17th 2016
153
RE: Can we finally talk about Kanye's The Life of Pablo?
Feb 14th 2016
9
can we just get an entire album like 30 Hours, NMPILA etc
Feb 14th 2016
10
I think it's fucking fantastic.
Feb 14th 2016
11
Same
Feb 14th 2016
14
I like it, "Father stretch my hands" might be my favorite
Feb 14th 2016
12
it's brilliant. spritual, positive, warm, creative
Feb 14th 2016
13
Frustrating listen
Feb 14th 2016
15
They going in on Kirk for appearing with Kanye on IG.
Feb 14th 2016
16
kirk already ethered em
Feb 14th 2016
17
that was cool
Feb 14th 2016
29
I skimmed thru the comments on random pics on his page.
Feb 14th 2016
20
RE: They going in on Kirk for appearing with Kanye on IG.
Feb 14th 2016
21
People become or don't become Christian for the same reason
Feb 14th 2016
55
what song is he on?
Feb 14th 2016
42
      Ultra Light Beam
Feb 14th 2016
46
On one listen...
Feb 14th 2016
18
thats an acapella interlude bro. did you even listen to the album? lol.
Feb 14th 2016
67
      he can't love an interlude?
Feb 14th 2016
70
      "song"
Feb 14th 2016
74
      It's a great interlude. I also like War by Dilated Peoples, shrug.
Feb 15th 2016
93
This is the closest to a gospel album we'll get from a mainstream artist...
Feb 14th 2016
19
LOL at Vic getting taken off and Chance on...
Feb 14th 2016
22
A great decision
Feb 14th 2016
23
      Agreed. I'm just amused because Vic seemed to be the protege
Feb 14th 2016
48
           Yeah thats gotta hurt
Feb 14th 2016
56
My only gripe: 3000 not rapping a full verse
Feb 14th 2016
26
Ye is the kinda dude that would save that for a Good Friday remix
Feb 14th 2016
28
my feelings exactly.
Feb 14th 2016
30
RE: My only gripe: 3000 not rapping a full verse
Apr 06th 2016
246
Overall very good. There are some weak spots.
Feb 14th 2016
27
I like it a lot. Def better than Yeezus off a couple listens
Feb 14th 2016
31
dope sh$%
Feb 14th 2016
32
Ye coming with that Day 1 DLC. Says hes gonna "fix" Wolves
Feb 14th 2016
33
There's a whole lot of worse things he should be worried about fixing
Feb 14th 2016
35
Furthers the notion that this was rushed. Wasn't like this when
Feb 14th 2016
36
Remixes though
Feb 14th 2016
40
he's done post-release updates the last 2 albums so its not odd.
Feb 14th 2016
45
      RE: he's done post-release updates the last 2 albums so its not odd.
Feb 16th 2016
114
niggas got beta versions of ALBUMS now.
Feb 14th 2016
54
If anyone can inbox a link
Feb 14th 2016
34
the same honkies who hated To Pimp A Butterfly love this
Feb 14th 2016
37
can we like/love both
Feb 14th 2016
38
A completely pointless and dumb comment
Feb 14th 2016
39
Makes no sense whatsover
Feb 14th 2016
41
Not exactly
Mar 21st 2016
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http://s30.postimg.org/7mp4mjsgf/image.gif
Feb 14th 2016
43
except they loved tpab
Feb 14th 2016
44
lets not derail the post with this bs please
Feb 14th 2016
47
What's a honkie? TPAB was all over the place...
Feb 14th 2016
53
lol at calling TLOP cohesive
Feb 14th 2016
59
Damn, I am playing into his agenda lightweight now that you mention it.....
Feb 14th 2016
73
nothing to do with real hip-hop
Feb 14th 2016
75
sorry, I meant crackers
Feb 14th 2016
69
Lmao...deep
Feb 14th 2016
58
lmhyao
Feb 14th 2016
71
      laughing my high yella ass off?
Feb 15th 2016
87
may I have a link please
Feb 14th 2016
49
tidal.com
Feb 14th 2016
50
      and your credit card info
Feb 14th 2016
60
Are the vocals processed a lot again?
Feb 14th 2016
51
Umm... maybe 70/30
Feb 14th 2016
52
      Thanks
Feb 15th 2016
78
love it. he seems alot happier on this. yeezus was dark as fuck.
Feb 14th 2016
57
beautiful mess.
Feb 14th 2016
61
wait...this isn't Future on this?
Feb 14th 2016
62
yea that dude has a short and/or obscure career
Feb 14th 2016
63
I can accept just sounding like Future. But this was straight theft
Feb 15th 2016
81
ultra light beam > anything on yeezus
Feb 14th 2016
64
damn, y'all really love that song
Feb 14th 2016
66
The child at the beginning of Ultralight Beam
Feb 14th 2016
65
RE: The child at the beginning of Ultralight Beam
Feb 15th 2016
80
I'm on the INternet at a BOXing dojo
Feb 15th 2016
76
Sorry but rapping in Autotune is some garbage shit.
Feb 15th 2016
77
lol
Feb 15th 2016
79
I really thought he'd lay off it this album, boy was I wrong lol.
Feb 17th 2016
133
this turkey is more Meatloaf than Rakim
Feb 15th 2016
83
*Nobody* loves "lights" more than Kanye West.
Feb 15th 2016
88
Kanye West - brought to you by GE
Feb 16th 2016
108
      Ahahaha. Nice.
Feb 16th 2016
110
The first Ye album that doesn't sound like an album
Feb 15th 2016
89
flames
Feb 15th 2016
90
This has shades of all the other albums
Feb 15th 2016
91
shit is just alright
Feb 15th 2016
92
Ultralight Beams and Freestyle 4 are my favorite moments on the album
Feb 16th 2016
95
Good. Solid. Not great.
Feb 16th 2016
96
So I have to get Tidal to listen to a half-ass album?
Feb 16th 2016
97
Is RhymeFest right about Ye? The boy done lost it...
Feb 16th 2016
98
Kanye stays punkin' these music publications
Feb 16th 2016
99
i love it
Feb 16th 2016
101
He sounds ridiculous.
Feb 16th 2016
104
the lyrics are terrible
Feb 16th 2016
100
It's good, but not worth $9.95/month... FOH Kanye...
Feb 16th 2016
102
I was let down right after Father Stretch My Hands PT1
Feb 16th 2016
103
yeah i was let down as soon as he said
Feb 16th 2016
109
      Oh my god is that a real lyric
Feb 16th 2016
111
      Its him in character. Great line.
Feb 16th 2016
113
           ^^^white, Kendrick detractor
Feb 17th 2016
116
           he white?
Feb 17th 2016
119
           and a kendrick detractor too?
Feb 17th 2016
120
                words mean things. you have the same internet I do
Feb 17th 2016
125
                     you keep bringing Kendrick up, not sure why
Feb 17th 2016
126
                          I wont bother explaining it to you either
Feb 17th 2016
128
                               thx, i appreciate it
Feb 17th 2016
129
           ^ wrong (on both lol) and obsessed w/ me.
Feb 17th 2016
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           its not a great line...
Feb 17th 2016
117
           Haha right. It is so far from a great line.
Feb 17th 2016
118
                song is flames tho...
Feb 17th 2016
122
           Ninja you did not just try and breakdown that lyric for us did you?
Feb 17th 2016
123
           iont even wanna talk about it...
Feb 17th 2016
124
           LOL
Feb 18th 2016
159
           had to be done
Feb 17th 2016
140
                It absolutely did not have to be done.
Feb 17th 2016
142
                     LMAO.. I don't even have the words
Feb 17th 2016
143
                          i'm starting to think he's not a real person
Feb 17th 2016
145
           you might be the biggest kanye fanboy ive ever seen lmao
Feb 17th 2016
151
RE: Can we finally talk about Kanye's The Life of Pablo?
Feb 16th 2016
105
This is not a gospel album.....
Feb 17th 2016
150
I came here just to read your reviews.
Feb 16th 2016
106
Highlights needs more El......and more minutes...more fleshing out
Feb 16th 2016
107
El Debarge is on this!
Feb 16th 2016
112
Agreed, what was with that 10 second solo?
Feb 16th 2016
115
4 outta 5...wake up nigga wake up
Feb 17th 2016
121
Famous is hard as fuck
Feb 17th 2016
127
Havoc produced that one
Feb 17th 2016
130
      Havoc wasn't alone in terms of involvement for that song
Feb 17th 2016
132
           RE: Havoc wasn't alone in terms of involvement for that song
Feb 17th 2016
134
                I believe it's Andrew Dawson
Feb 17th 2016
135
I can't get over the bootleg Future they got on this
Feb 17th 2016
131
I feel like it's one of 2 things:
Feb 17th 2016
136
Kanye signed him to GOOD after his single "Panda" got internet famous
Feb 17th 2016
137
      Panda is sampled in that song....
Feb 18th 2016
163
see also: "Drake" on Erykah's But You Cain't Use My Phone.
Feb 17th 2016
138
I was listening this morning and figured OKP got it wrong. That's Futur...
Feb 17th 2016
146
      Ha. I thought it was a mix of both. Then I popped in and did a CTRL-F
Feb 17th 2016
154
Ultralight Beam... any black person who doesnt like that song
Feb 17th 2016
139
Kelly Prices voice is PERFECT for that track
Feb 17th 2016
144
Yah really.
Feb 18th 2016
210
I was watching the SNL performance and got misty eyed.
Feb 17th 2016
147
i was thoroughly unmoved by it.
Feb 17th 2016
148
      I agree that Kanye made it feel disingenuous.
Feb 18th 2016
167
raises hand. catholic household
Feb 18th 2016
155
      this makes sense... catholic church choirs are horrible
Feb 18th 2016
165
           they're terrible fam. like music to assist a suicide
Feb 18th 2016
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                I went once and the only thing I liked was how short
Feb 18th 2016
195
First listen is 7.5/10
Feb 17th 2016
149
man, i been listening a lot. the Lyrics are fucn awful
Feb 18th 2016
156
this thing is begging for a Game of the Year / Director's Cut release
Feb 18th 2016
157
man, yall are some funny dudes...
Feb 18th 2016
166
I wish he still had Consequence and Rhymefest still writing for him.
Feb 18th 2016
169
      Cons did write on this album. Fest didn't
Feb 18th 2016
180
Fourth listen it in, got much better 9/10. Sounds like MDTF 2 to me.
Feb 18th 2016
158
Being that the album hasnt been "Released" does Ye have pay for samples?
Feb 18th 2016
160
Greg Phillinganes and El Debage on the album I see you Yeezy.
Feb 18th 2016
161
What? Not THE Greg Phillinganes
Feb 18th 2016
174
After a few days with it....
Feb 18th 2016
162
RE: After a few days with it....
Feb 18th 2016
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I convinced there will be a more finished product dropped later
Feb 18th 2016
164
I don't think he lost with Tidal
Feb 18th 2016
168
naw you can't make real money from pure streaming. Just not possible.
Feb 18th 2016
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RE: naw you can't make real money from pure streaming. Just not possible...
Feb 18th 2016
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It wouldn't make any damn sense to be exclusive and not
Feb 18th 2016
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      I think Tidal exclusives are being paid in Equity which means....
Feb 18th 2016
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      its definitely a gamble but it's smart IMO
Feb 18th 2016
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      I just can't imagine any record company being cool with it
Feb 18th 2016
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           yup, I can't see how you go exclusive and money
Feb 18th 2016
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      RE: It wouldn't make any damn sense to be exclusive and not
Feb 18th 2016
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           Ye sold out MSG to play his shit on a laptop
Feb 18th 2016
181
                he didn't just sell out MSG, he had theaters streaming it
Feb 18th 2016
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                     well damn...
Feb 18th 2016
194
Like I said, access to Kanye ain't worth an extra $9.95/month...
Feb 18th 2016
184
      with all due respect, you been waving the google music flag for a year n...
Feb 18th 2016
185
           Yeah, good point with that. These young folks are trendy as hell.....
Feb 18th 2016
186
           And...I wouldn't even be so mad about Tidal, Apple Music, Google Music
Feb 18th 2016
187
           yeah, i decided on Spotify and wont budge
Feb 18th 2016
188
           How is Tidal doing well though.
Feb 18th 2016
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                prolly because Tidal only pays $110 per subscriber
Feb 18th 2016
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                     45% of new users are dumbasses..... Tidal's "High Def Sound" was
Feb 18th 2016
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                          most consumers are dumb
Feb 18th 2016
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                          the standard def is $10 like Spotify
Feb 18th 2016
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If the album never drops, Does ye still have to for sample clearances
Feb 18th 2016
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      the credits page says "used with permission" same as in a disc liner
Feb 18th 2016
183
Fall Out of Heaven (feat. The-Dream and Bon Iver) (YT link)
Feb 18th 2016
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This is terrible.
Feb 18th 2016
190
You're not wron
Feb 18th 2016
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RE: Fall Out of Heaven (feat. The-Dream and Bon Iver) (YT link)
Feb 18th 2016
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Shit is sick. I hope Ye finishes it.
Feb 18th 2016
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Actually, this reddit thread is tracking leaks/uploads of OG/New tracks
Feb 18th 2016
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Ah good. I was gonna look for a compilation of these
Feb 18th 2016
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These all sound like scratch tracks
Feb 18th 2016
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they need to leak this original version of 30 hours (link)
Feb 18th 2016
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      Fam I was VERY disappointed this version wasnt on rhe album
Feb 18th 2016
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           sameski.
Feb 18th 2016
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Everyday ive had a new favorite track...today was 30 Hours
Feb 18th 2016
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a lesson head just hooked up a bunch of alternate takes
Feb 23rd 2016
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So when will we know when this album is actually finished?
Feb 23rd 2016
212
Rich nigga problems is becoming the most boring shit ever
Mar 19th 2016
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Has anyone got their merch from season 3 screening?
Mar 20th 2016
214
desus posted a pic on IG that he got merch
Mar 22nd 2016
216
Alright...about 7-10 listens in...I cant tell if I like it
Mar 22nd 2016
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who cares what you think?
Mar 22nd 2016
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      oh hey, its deadzombie.
Mar 22nd 2016
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           gosh, you're embarrassing me. may we start over?
Mar 22nd 2016
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THE NEW VERSION OF HIGHLIGHTS!!
Mar 31st 2016
221
Where!??!??
Mar 31st 2016
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      tidal
Mar 31st 2016
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New Updates
Mar 31st 2016
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man i hope to hear this version of 30 hrs somedeay
Mar 31st 2016
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Freestyle 4 is a 1000X better than first version
Apr 15th 2016
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Coming to ALL STREAMING SERVICES TOMORROW! #YEBELYING
Mar 31st 2016
224
What happened to the Madonna version of Highlights?
Mar 31st 2016
225
He tweaks this album every week.....
Mar 31st 2016
228
Nahhhhhhhhhhhh......they did it the right way.
Mar 31st 2016
229
there are always improvements to make. why surround yourself with
Mar 31st 2016
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exactly
Mar 31st 2016
235
      the fuck? what if imhotep had google? get the fuck outta here.
Mar 31st 2016
236
i agree - hes making this into an ever evolving/changing piece of art...
Mar 31st 2016
230
the shit is fucking awesome. agile development.
Mar 31st 2016
231
I refuse to buy an album with microtransactions that's why
Mar 31st 2016
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      don't nobody listen to you, Kira
Mar 31st 2016
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           Now you're advocating paying a monthly price for an album
Apr 01st 2016
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                untrue
Apr 06th 2016
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This is the worst plea copping for putting out a half baked album.
Apr 06th 2016
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      RE: This is the worst plea copping for putting out a half baked album.
Apr 06th 2016
249
           Kanye was literally practicing/trying out lyrics on 30 Hours.
Apr 07th 2016
257
WOULD EVERY BODY START FUCKIN?!
Mar 31st 2016
237
still no 3 Stacks on 30 hours, and...
Apr 01st 2016
239
so is what's on spotify the final version?
Apr 06th 2016
240
That was always the case
Apr 06th 2016
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ah alright..thanks.
Apr 06th 2016
245
Did you buy the Season Pass?
Apr 06th 2016
242
will there actually be a final version?
Apr 06th 2016
247
      Tidal was one thing; I have a hard time believing he can push
Apr 06th 2016
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Good lord this is fucking *terrible*
Apr 06th 2016
248
you say that now...in a week you will be obsessed. Kurse of Kanye.
Apr 06th 2016
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Hahaha I doubt it.
Apr 06th 2016
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yeah, it stinks
Apr 06th 2016
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      Yea he doesn't even produce anymore
Apr 06th 2016
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           I'll never understand THIS specific argument
Apr 07th 2016
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                Yea I had a feeling that statement would ruffle feathers.
Apr 07th 2016
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                I think the criticism is he is doing less than that.
Apr 07th 2016
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steaming pile of dog shit on a hot summer day
Apr 06th 2016
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Haha I wouldn't go that far.
Apr 06th 2016
256
how many actual versions of this album exist?
Apr 07th 2016
261
There were 5 on what last I checked
Apr 07th 2016
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Kanye has had some 'uh...' lyrics before but i gave him a pass bc its ka...
Apr 07th 2016
263
finally hearing spotify version....this shit is crazy
Apr 15th 2016
264
Added it to my library on Google Play....haven't cared to press play
Apr 15th 2016
265
FINALLY GOT MY MERCH TODAY! Shouts to Cali DeWitt
Apr 15th 2016
267
Ultralight Beams alone makes this good. It's dope to me. *Kanye shrug*
Apr 15th 2016
268

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1. "dl'ing it now. this is yeezy sunday 4 me"
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2. "Not for me"
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Outside of Ultralight Beam and Famous, much of this was hard to get through. It's as disjointed as his mental state. For someone whose catalogue is lauded for production, the lack of musicality on these last 2 albums is jarring. He had a run for the ages, but this feels rushed and uninspired. God bless him.

  

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5. "Its just a totally different aestethic"
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The production on both Yeezus and TLOP is great

  

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3. "Yeah, this is some Andre 3000 shit"
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Its still dope tho...

But I think he is more concerned with dropping art than dropping a proper rap album.

Also think so many new rappers drop half ass sing song raps and he is catering to that market.

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4. "It's good to great. There's stuff for all stages of his fans"
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College Dropout:
Real Friends
30 Miles
No More Parties

Yeezus
Freestyle 4
Feedback

Dark Twisted:
Ultra Light Beams
Famous

808:
Wolves
FML
Waves

etc..

Does it make a cohesive album? That remains to be seen. But I would be very surprised if I see the same level of hate as I saw with Yeezus as this seems to be a thank you note to his fanbase as a whole

  

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6. "RE: It's good to great. There's stuff for all stages of his fans"
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Well put


  

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152. "Ahhh that's why I don't really love those songs"
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The 808 section has my least favorite joints. I've also never listened to that album all the way through. Love the OG Robocop though.

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7. "his 2nd worst album to yeezus."
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his 1st 5 solo albums range from near classic to classic for me
and still stick around my regular rotation.
his last 2 have no replay value.

dude is just money grabbing right now
and suckering his fans with half baked product.

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24. "It came out 12 hours ago my goodness"
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25. "Lmao"
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>It came out 12 hours ago my goodness

  

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68. "did you say the same thing to niggas praising it?"
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82. "Man, shut up and just be wrong. "
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Praise it or shit on it, but declaring it with its place in his pantheon within 12 hours is just dumb.

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84. "just like whatever you like and get off my dick."
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lol @ you getting vaginal over someone else opinion of your hero.
thats some ima name her bonnie weirdo shit.

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85. "I strongly dislike Yeezus you weirdo. "
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Old internet instant reviewer dummy.

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86. "you reppin butthurt mafia gang right now. "
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94. "Like honestly what's it like to be so fucking weird?"
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8. "The new version of Facts is MUCH better then the old"
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I mean the new version is just solid modern trap a la 'Mercy' but that first version was one of the worst Kanye song's ive heard...surprised it made it out in the world

  

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72. "the new Facts is AWESOME."
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153. "Yeah I can't believe I fux with this"
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When I saw that he added it I was concerned but this version is official. I can rock to this at a party for sure.

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9. "RE: Can we finally talk about Kanye's The Life of Pablo?"
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Im here for the kanye musical collage...

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10. "can we just get an entire album like 30 Hours, NMPILA etc"
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yall can keep the rest


k thx bye

  

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11. "I think it's fucking fantastic. "
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I listened late last night, woke up, immediately turned it backed on. The overwhelming majority works, and it works beautifully.

Not ready to decide where it rests in the Kanye discography, but I'd say top half after an initial listen, bare minimum.

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14. "Same"
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Predicting a lot of mandatory OKP hate, but I love it

Don't like Wolves and Facts, but apart from those two I think the album is amazing


  

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12. "I like it, "Father stretch my hands" might be my favorite"
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13. "it's brilliant. spritual, positive, warm, creative"
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so many things that people mistakenly thought that Ye didn't still have in him.

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15. "Frustrating listen"
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Like this shit could've been so much better. And I think he knew that too. It's almost like he did it on purpose.

  

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16. "They going in on Kirk for appearing with Kanye on IG. "
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I swear alot of Christians believe the exact opposite of what I believe Christ taught. One dude on IG tells Kirk

"inclusion is not the way of jesus."

SMH.

This should be a separate post about Kirk Franklin and Christianity but I don't want to personally be about too many Kanye post.



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17. "kirk already ethered em"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BBwZQEmMGkW/

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29. "that was cool"
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20. "I skimmed thru the comments on random pics on his page. "
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I just picked the pics where it looked like he was enjoying life or having fun.
The comments man... these people sound crazy.

  

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21. "RE: They going in on Kirk for appearing with Kanye on IG. "
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A chunk of church folks are awesome at chasing people away from church. A lot of them love excluding folks based on their criteria...most of which tends to be lazy or at best based on a line or two out of the book. Yawn.

I'm struggling with what to say about the album. I like it. A lot. I want to knitpick it because I hear 'holes'. Ultra light beam is glorious.

>I swear alot of Christians believe the exact opposite of what
>I believe Christ taught. One dude on IG tells Kirk
>
>"inclusion is not the way of jesus."
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>SMH.
>
>This should be a separate post about Kirk Franklin and
>Christianity but I don't want to personally be about too many
>Kanye post.
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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
>
>"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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55. "People become or don't become Christian for the same reason "
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They met a Christian.

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42. "what song is he on?"
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46. "Ultra Light Beam"
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one of the definite highlights on the album


  

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18. "On one listen..."
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I think it's pretty great, and I love the I Used to Love Kanye song. There are some misses, but overall it's really good.

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67. "thats an acapella interlude bro. did you even listen to the album? lol."
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70. "he can't love an interlude?"
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74. ""song""
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93. "It's a great interlude. I also like War by Dilated Peoples, shrug. "
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19. "This is the closest to a gospel album we'll get from a mainstream artist..."
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That means it's an album with strong religious influences felt on every song. Ultralight Beam is proof of this. The intro is the 2016 Jesus Walks for the masses.

Fuego Impressions after 4 listens:

I'm a Kanye supporter of greatness and this album is an early candidate for AOTY.

This is arguably his best album since MBDTF. This is the return of hungry Kanye and we are better for it. It might be better as far as album structure goes..


The only weak track on this album is the Freestyle.

This fake Future needs to retire. It's shocking that the artist in question is from Brooklyn...

Andre 3K couldn't drop a verse on 30 Hours but came in for the chorus, SMFH.

The Max B tributes are great so WE NEED TO THANK CHANCE.

I'm going to dissect this album in the lesson at some point because it's literally that good.

  

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22. "LOL at Vic getting taken off and Chance on..."
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with all kinds of oversights on the album too.

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23. "A great decision"
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Chance's verse sums up the song perfectly + adds a great elemtent as an introduction to the album.... its spiritual, its personal, its youthful, energetic... idk

Not a massive fan of either C or Vic, but I think the song is perfect now



  

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48. "Agreed. I'm just amused because Vic seemed to be the protege"
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This time last year.
Everyone knows that Chance is the much more talented of the pair.
But Vic was getting the look (and signing to Roc Nation) meanwhile his output since signing has been horrendous. Down On My Luck was his last good song.
So then Chano comes through, stars on the album, is making creative decisions on the final tracklisting... and Vic's contributions vanish.
Lol.

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56. "Yeah thats gotta hurt"
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I dont know if anyone else caught it, but during the MSG thing when Vic was playing his new song he seemed very intent on having Ye respond to the song, like a lil bro trying to impress big bro moment. And Ye seemed kinda uinterested. Vic is cool, looks like he's putting in a lot of work too. But his star seem to have faded a bit.

Chance has a lot of movement behind him and energy to him, his musical persona and voice has a way higher currency than Vic's atm

But it does seem like, I think u posted this somewhere else in this thread, Vic's verse on Wolves will be back before the album drops on iTunes next weekend. So at least thats something



>This time last year.
>Everyone knows that Chance is the much more talented of the
>pair.
>But Vic was getting the look (and signing to Roc Nation)
>meanwhile his output since signing has been horrendous. Down
>On My Luck was his last good song.
>So then Chano comes through, stars on the album, is making
>creative decisions on the final tracklisting... and Vic's
>contributions vanish.
>Lol.

  

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26. "My only gripe: 3000 not rapping a full verse"
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He's on the song, he was in the studio... What the f***

The few songs I dont like is cool, 3stacks not killing the last minute of 30 Hours will always leave me feelin like I was robbed of a big moment (



  

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28. "Ye is the kinda dude that would save that for a Good Friday remix"
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30. "my feelings exactly."
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246. "RE: My only gripe: 3000 not rapping a full verse"
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27. "Overall very good. There are some weak spots."
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After my first listen I'd give it a B+.
If you cut a few songs it'd be stronger.
The album is trying to do too much, and it suffers for it. But the strengths of the album prevent it from getting dragged down for it's weaknesses.

The standouts after 1 spin were.

Ultralight Beams
Pt. 1
Famous
Highlights
Real Friends
NOPILA
Wolves (which I liked a lot more than I expected to)


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31. "I like it a lot. Def better than Yeezus off a couple listens"
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solid B right now

  

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32. "dope sh$%"
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I'm proud of him...

  

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33. "Ye coming with that Day 1 DLC. Says hes gonna "fix" Wolves"
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on his twitter

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35. "There's a whole lot of worse things he should be worried about fixing"
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36. "Furthers the notion that this was rushed. Wasn't like this when "
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folks use to deliver physical albums.

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40. "Remixes though"
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Even though the tweet is cryptic I assume he means by putting Vic and Sia back in the song which tends to be the big complaint I see on social media

While your point is an interesting one, what's even more interesting is if I am right, dude is going back into the lab because of fan opinion; its rap music literally by committee.

  

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45. "he's done post-release updates the last 2 albums so its not odd."
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114. "RE: he's done post-release updates the last 2 albums so its not odd."
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I know he did another master of the Cruel Summer album.

What other changes are you referring to?

He did this with "Stronger" after it was released as a single, but single mixes are different from album mixes all the time. Same with the additions on "Runaway."

He also did a remix of "Say You Will" but that's hardly the same as what he's doing now.

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54. "niggas got beta versions of ALBUMS now."
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Still looking forward to listening to it tho, after all the bugs are out of it.

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34. "If anyone can inbox a link"
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I would appreciate it. I haven't looked for streams yet

  

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37. "the same honkies who hated To Pimp A Butterfly love this"
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38. "can we like/love both"
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39. "A completely pointless and dumb comment"
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lmao

Well done


  

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41. "Makes no sense whatsover"
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Pimp only got flack when it was the lean winter months and niggas needed contrary think pieces; out the gate it was 100% critically acclaimed.

This record the jury is still out and you still have your 'ITS ABSOLUTE SHIT' 'ITS ABSOLUTELY AWESOME' even within this post, lol

  

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215. "Not exactly"
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There are still folks that don't reall mess with Pimp like that. They don't "get it" or think it's a "hard listen." Both are allowed responses. They are also allowed to dig Pablo on its own merits.

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43. "http://s30.postimg.org/7mp4mjsgf/image.gif"
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http://s30.postimg.org/7mp4mjsgf/image.gif

  

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44. "except they loved tpab"
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47. "lets not derail the post with this bs please"
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53. "What's a honkie? TPAB was all over the place..."
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This is cohesive and to the point. None of that extra hard shit from Kendrick tops this album.

Kanye legit sounds like he had fun with this album whereas Kendrick was somewhere trying to be fake deep in a lab at 2 am.

  

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59. "lol at calling TLOP cohesive"
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and thinking anything on TLOP album rivals "Alright" or "Momma" or "Complexion". shit like a few others have said TPAB made YE go back in the lab

TLOP is dope though, if you prefer it aint nothing wrong with it, but let's not play into atruhead's racialized real hip hop antics

  

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73. "Damn, I am playing into his agenda lightweight now that you mention it....."
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>and thinking anything on TLOP album rivals "Alright" or
>"Momma" or "Complexion". shit like a few others have said TPAB
>made YE go back in the lab
>
>TLOP is dope though, if you prefer it aint nothing wrong with
>it, but let's not play into atruhead's racialized real hip hop
>antics

MY BAD.

I'll discuss the TPAB vs TLOP after Kanye releases the definitive edition at some point in the next few weeks. Allegedly, there's a disc 2 floating around with a fixed version of Wolves.

  

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75. "nothing to do with real hip-hop"
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let's not play into atruhead's racialized real hip hop
>antics

I was 50% trolling with the slur but 50% serious about the same (peckerwoods) on here and elsewhere who hated Kendrick's album loving The Life Of Pablo

  

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69. "sorry, I meant crackers"
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58. "Lmao...deep"
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71. "lmhyao"
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87. "laughing my high yella ass off? "
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49. "may I have a link please"
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So far I've loved all,I've heard from him this year

  

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50. "tidal.com"
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Sign in with FB (1 click) and u got the whole album right there for free

  

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60. "and your credit card info"
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this exclusive to on site shit is OD annoying

  

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51. "Are the vocals processed a lot again?"
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I'm not a fan of the auto-tune Kayne - it sounds like Buck Rogers is mouth fucking Twiki.

Last night's SNL performance was filled with it and I am not a fan of the sound.

What's the ratio here?

I asked in The lesson, but no response.

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52. "Umm... maybe 70/30"
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more real vocals than autotune. But they're definitely in there heavy at points.

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78. "Thanks"
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So 30% sounds of chicken stranglings

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57. "love it. he seems alot happier on this. yeezus was dark as fuck."
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♚♚♚♚

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cops ain't neither /
they huntin' my people /

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61. "beautiful mess."
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Can't wait for Chance the Rapper's album.


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62. "wait...this isn't Future on this?"
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LMAOOO wtf

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63. "yea that dude has a short and/or obscure career"
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if he doesn't find his own lane.


or maybe Future's created a new lane, and Designer is being situated as the Lupe to Future that Lupe was supposed to be to Kanye before Kanye decided to be this Kanye.

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81. "I can accept just sounding like Future. But this was straight theft"
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Voice, effects, rhyming pattern, content. Everything. He even pronounced words like Future lol

And what makes it worse is they had the "If young metro don't trust you..." intro, so you're kind of expecting Future to be on the track smh

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64. "ultra light beam > anything on yeezus "
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66. "damn, y'all really love that song"
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65. "The child at the beginning of Ultralight Beam"
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BA8jmM8lixW/

my bad if you already seen it.

  

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80. "RE: The child at the beginning of Ultralight Beam"
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I'm like damn. What if that child was exposes to quantum physic, what would she have been talking about.

  

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76. "I'm on the INternet at a BOXing dojo "
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77. "Sorry but rapping in Autotune is some garbage shit. "
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79. "lol"
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133. "I really thought he'd lay off it this album, boy was I wrong lol."
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http://i54.tinypic.com/2j51hj4.jpg

  

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83. "this turkey is more Meatloaf than Rakim"
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alot of theater and he just goes on and on. this turkey is on my top 10 list of most overrated acts ever.

mistermaxxx R.Kelly, Michael Jackson,Stevie wonder,Rick James,Marvin Gaye,El Debarge, Barry WHite Lionel RIchie,Isleys EWF,Lady T.,Kid creole and coconuts,the crusaders,kc sunshine band,bee gees,jW,sd,NE,JB

Miami Heat, New York Yankees,buffalo bills

  

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88. "*Nobody* loves "lights" more than Kanye West."
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Nobody.

Flashing Lights
Street Lights
All of the Lights
Ultra Light Beam
Low Lights
Highlights

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108. " Kanye West - brought to you by GE"
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"Get ready..for your blessing..."

  

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110. "Ahahaha. Nice."
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89. "The first Ye album that doesn't sound like an album"
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A good chunk of this sounds like it was thrown together in the past several weeks. Greats moments but a lot I can do without. Yeezus is better IMO and I wasn't even that big a fan. At least it sounded like a cohesive album outside of Bound. This feels like Ye selling us a mixtape.

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90. "flames"
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91. "This has shades of all the other albums"
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Considering the hard creative shifts it pulls together pretty well

to the point that the more lyrical joint(s) oddly seem out of place

i think this album will probably age well once its easier to separate the non-musical context this was released like 808's and Yeezus

also: Fade need Project Pat or somebody

  

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92. "shit is just alright"
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ultralight beam is the highlight of the album... probably one of kanye's best songs, in my opinion.

dope production, lyrics are suspect though. damn

kinda disappointed.

  

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95. "Ultralight Beams and Freestyle 4 are my favorite moments on the album"
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I like the stark contrast between those songs
like "I" and "U" on TPAB
I love when these artists take the listener down unconventional avenues
where the bright songs (Ultralight beam, !) exhibit artistic genius
and the darker, spots (Freestyle 4 and u) are borderline crazy



Freestlye 4 is so fucking Yeezus and i love it
shit is most definitely "I cant Hold My Liquor"pt 2




This is a STRONG album

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96. "Good. Solid. Not great."
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That's a first listen anyway. Kanye has a habit of growing on me, but at the moment this isn't as good as Yeezus or MBDTF.

Started bright as FUCK... Ultralight Beam is gorgeous. Part 1 of Father Stretch My Hands ehhh... Part 2 brought it back.

Famous ft Rihanna starts good, but gets GREAT for the second half. Beautiful instrumentation.

Rest of it was decent. Some good moments... Real Friends is great, Feedback's good.

No moments that made me go "WHAAAAAAT" like on all his other albums though. Low key for Kanye.

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97. "So I have to get Tidal to listen to a half-ass album?"
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Just to find out how half-ass it really is?

  

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98. "Is RhymeFest right about Ye? The boy done lost it..."
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'Ye done lost his damned mind or he is really doing his best to create controversy before releasing this album to the masses. Ain't no way this joint sits on Tidal alone.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/kanye-west-white-publications_us_56c27e0ae4b08ffac12643f3

WHITE PEOPLE STAY AWAY!

LOL

Somewhere he's got his diabolical laugh going after Taylor's rebuke.

  

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99. "Kanye stays punkin' these music publications"
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Especially if they don't give him a perfect score. Punishing them by limiting their access to him and saying they have no credibility. So a magazine who has been around forever like Rolling Stone, who gave perfect reviews in the past, loses all credibility because they don't perfectly review this one album? The crazy thing about it is that that shit seems to work. He dictates the narrative. I've yet to see an accomplished journalist truly stand up to him and call him out on this nonsense.

  

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101. "i love it"
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zero fux given

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104. "He sounds ridiculous. "
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<---https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01DL9AVTQ

  

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100. "the lyrics are terrible"
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damn

  

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102. "It's good, but not worth $9.95/month... FOH Kanye..."
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LOL @ the notion...
This shit bout to get bootlegged like crazy...


"Get ready..for your blessing..."

  

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103. "I was let down right after Father Stretch My Hands PT1"
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That beat is too fuckin cold...

  

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109. "yeah i was let down as soon as he said"
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"if i fuck this model/and she just bleached her asshole/ and i get bleach on my t-shirt/im gonna feel like an asshole"

smh. what a damn letdown. the beat and hook is so fresh, then these fuck ass lyrics

  

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111. "Oh my god is that a real lyric"
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>"if i fuck this model/and she just bleached her asshole/ and
>i get bleach on my t-shirt/im gonna feel like an asshole"

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113. "Its him in character. Great line."
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Wifey gonna know he was cheating and thats why he feel like an asshole.

The whole album is him reconciling being a father/husband with his desires to do wild shit like he used to.

<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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116. "^^^white, Kendrick detractor"
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119. "he white?"
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fuck you.

  

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120. "and a kendrick detractor too? "
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Wtf does that even mean?

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125. "words mean things. you have the same internet I do"
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>Wtf does that even mean?
>
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126. "you keep bringing Kendrick up, not sure why"
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TBH the fact that you're even a mod here fits squarely within Jag's narrative of OK-sanctioned aggression, bullying, and toxicity. *shrug*

  

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128. "I wont bother explaining it to you either"
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129. "thx, i appreciate it"
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141. "^ wrong (on both lol) and obsessed w/ me."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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legsdiamond
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117. "its not a great line... "
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but its typical Ye humor and didnt bother me

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118. "Haha right. It is so far from a great line."
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Like, SO fucking far.

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122. "song is flames tho..."
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123. "Ninja you did not just try and breakdown that lyric for us did you?"
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**********
"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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124. "iont even wanna talk about it..."
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illEskoBar221
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159. "LOL"
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_____________________________

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140. "had to be done"
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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142. "It absolutely did not have to be done."
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143. "LMAO.. I don't even have the words"
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145. "i'm starting to think he's not a real person"
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“So back we go to these questions — friendship, character… ethics.”

  

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151. "you might be the biggest kanye fanboy ive ever seen lmao"
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105. "RE: Can we finally talk about Kanye's The Life of Pablo?"
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I didn't go in with an open mind, but I have to admit that I quite like it. Still his second worst imo.

  

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150. "This is not a gospel album....."
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the first line after ultra light beams is about a model bleaching her asshole....

he refuses to call a woman a woman its always bitch...

when its good its great but when its bad its pretty bad.. overy all it sounds like he could have used a rick rubin in there when they were putting this thing together....

Im not mad it the album at all though... You can hear how on every album he is learning from his catalog...

Feedback is def my fav joint oh hear this song will bang in the clubs...Its monster part 2!!!!

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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106. "I came here just to read your reviews. "
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:)

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Hiya!

  

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107. "Highlights needs more El......and more minutes...more fleshing out"
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It's good... Really good.... But I feel like it could be great!!

Debarge kinda held back or was held back.... DJ Quick knew how to let Debarge really get it in and make a track do what it do...

  

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112. "El Debarge is on this!"
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>Debarge kinda held back or was held back.... DJ Quick knew how
>to let Debarge really get it in and make a track do what it
>do...

Shit if nothing else I'm excited just to hear that song. I miss that dude. Was just listening to Rhythm-al-ism a few weeks ago and fell into a YouTube rabbit hole of checking for Quik/Debarge performances and came across this gem. I need to see Quik live just to say I did.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LnDXUT8WECE

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115. "Agreed, what was with that 10 second solo?"
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121. "4 outta 5...wake up nigga wake up"
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Coolin...

  

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127. "Famous is hard as fuck"
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130. "Havoc produced that one"
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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

"Dude just seems like he's been chosen for some reason. Maybe he did a backspin for Oprah or something." micMajestic on Common

http://www.discogs.com/user/buhloone

  

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132. "Havoc wasn't alone in terms of involvement for that song"
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I forget the name of the person, but someone else assisted producing that track; in particular that clever flip of the Sister Nancy sample.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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134. "RE: Havoc wasn't alone in terms of involvement for that song"
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no doubt. there's never a lone producer on a Kanye track nowadays.

PRODUCTION KANYE WEST AND HAVOC

CO-PRODUCTION NOAH GOLDSTEIN FOR ARK PRODUCTIONS, INC., CHARLIE HEAT FOR VERY GOOD BEATS, INC. AND ANDREW DAWSON

ADDITIONAL PRODUCTION HUDSON MOHAWKE, MIKE DEAN #MWA FOR DEAN'S LIST PRODUCTIONS AND PLAIN PAT

http://www.kanyewest.com/credits/

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Falcons, Braves, Bulldogs and Hawks

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135. "I believe it's Andrew Dawson"
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that was involved with the portion of the song I was referencing earlier. One of the better moments of that album, but I'm not a huge fan of TLOP, so I dunno how much my opinion is worth.

"Sean sparks like John Starks, nah, Sean ball like John Wall" - Rest In Power Forever Sean Price.

  

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131. "I can't get over the bootleg Future they got on this"
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I thought he just came in for a bar here and there, every 'Future' guest appearance is this Desiigner (or however you spell it) dude.

  

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136. "I feel like it's one of 2 things:"
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1. some contractual shit made it impossible for Future to be on it and they just called up the understudy

2. They lying and that is Future in a mask like some WWE shit.

  

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137. "Kanye signed him to GOOD after his single "Panda" got internet famous"
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I've never heard it to my knowledge but that's the lineage. I wonder if that song sounds a lot like Future as well. Haven't had the time to check it out.


~~~~~~~~~
"This is the streets, and I am the trap." � Jay Bilas
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163. "Panda is sampled in that song...."
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Those aren't new lyrics from Desiigner in Father Stretch My Hands...that sample is a full snippet from the song Panda.

  

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138. "see also: "Drake" on Erykah's But You Cain't Use My Phone."
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fuck you.

  

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146. "I was listening this morning and figured OKP got it wrong. That's Futur..."
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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154. "Ha. I thought it was a mix of both. Then I popped in and did a CTRL-F"
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on the credits

No Future! LOL

http://www.kanyewest.com/credits/

One of his guest appearances is basically him doing his 'Panda' song through

  

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139. "Ultralight Beam... any black person who doesnt like that song"
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must be Jehovah witness or grew up in a catholic household...

that shit takes me back.

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144. "Kelly Prices voice is PERFECT for that track"
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i can't believe i couldn't initially place who it was

I love everything about that song

  

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210. "Yah really."
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I went and checked out her discography after seeing her on snl. Damn she can sing.

  

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147. "I was watching the SNL performance and got misty eyed."
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But then Kanye was the weakest part of that performance as well.

Couldn't go without taking a shot at Kanye.




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148. "i was thoroughly unmoved by it."
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and kinda annoyed. the song and the performance felt disjointed and somewhat disingenuous (mostly b/c of Kanye, i think).

but i listen to actual Gospel music somewhat regularly.

fuck you.

  

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167. "I agree that Kanye made it feel disingenuous. "
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Jumping up at the end to plug his album kind wrecked the mood they established. But I was feeling the non-kanye moments from it.



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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson

"what's a leader if he isn't reluctant"

  

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155. "raises hand. catholic household"
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it's not that i don't like it, it's just one of my least favorite songs

as an atheist, those songs are very grating to me as an adult, though I get why a lot of Black folk love them. I find them irritatingly grandiose AF

Kanye shrug

  

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165. "this makes sense... catholic church choirs are horrible"
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179. "they're terrible fam. like music to assist a suicide"
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really catholic church was so damn depressing, always

  

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195. "I went once and the only thing I liked was how short"
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the service was...LOL.

hell, I didn't even know when the sermon started and ended.

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149. "First listen is 7.5/10"
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Not bad, everything is listenable, plenty of quotables and his personality is all over it. Just not enough standout great/classic type songs like he's made before.

High lights is ironically the highlight to me.

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156. "man, i been listening a lot. the Lyrics are fucn awful"
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John Forte is right, this enwurd really hates women

it's bringing down my love of the album :/

and y'all right about Father pt. i and ii, those are ideas not songs.

it would be dope if he actually re-released a better version of this whole album

  

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157. "this thing is begging for a Game of the Year / Director's Cut release"
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166. "man, yall are some funny dudes..."
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169. "I wish he still had Consequence and Rhymefest still writing for him. "
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I am convinced that the Kanye we all love was those dudes writing for him.


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180. "Cons did write on this album. Fest didn't"
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158. "Fourth listen it in, got much better 9/10. Sounds like MDTF 2 to me."
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The only thing I hate on the album is all of Desiinger's parts. Some of the lyrics are cringe worthy and terrible only afew lines here and there.

  

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160. "Being that the album hasnt been "Released" does Ye have pay for samples?"
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or does he have to pay for them based on the fact that
some of these dogs will be performed live and money
will bee made off them?

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161. "Greg Phillinganes and El Debage on the album I see you Yeezy."
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174. "What? Not THE Greg Phillinganes "
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This has to be some type of typo yo.

The same greg that worked with the GOD?

"They used to call me Baby Luke....but now? The whole damn 2 Liiiive Crew."

  

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162. "After a few days with it...."
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I'd say it's good, but bloated and sequenced oddly.

I'd get rid of Lowlights, Freestyle 4, and Silver Surfer Intermission, end with No More Parties in LA and 30 Hours, and change a few other things. But overall - its a much better listen (initially) than Yeezus. Feels like where 808s, Yeezus, and MBDTF intertwine.

30 Hours, while great - is so obviously just a sketch. I'd rather it be finished.
I HATE the final 30 second of Feedback. Just feels like a copout.
I'd love for FML to have a moment where the beat truly kicks in.

No More Parties in LA feels like the heart and soul of this album to me - even more than Ultralight Beam. Kanye got his mojo back, Madlib showed out, and Kendrick (while good) is overshadowed. I will listen to this one over and over.

There's so much good here....I wonder if and when a retail version is released it'll be different.

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197. "RE: After a few days with it...."
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Sounds like you want WAVES.. lol

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164. "I convinced there will be a more finished product dropped later"
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I think this tidal release was a disaster for him.

It's got to suck that the album was pirated gold already.

http://hiphopdx.com/news/id.37515/title.kanye-wests-the-life-of-pablo-pirated-more-than-500000-in-one-day

I think he will put together a more delux finished project to sell to try and recoup what he lost on tidal.


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168. "I don't think he lost with Tidal"
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pretty sure everyone said Tidal's app was downloaded like crazy.

Ye has to be seeing a nice chunk from new subscribers.

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170. "naw you can't make real money from pure streaming. Just not possible."
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Folks are getting paid off Apple dropping dough for exclusive streaming (I think Drake got like 20M for that itunes exclusives).

Or streaming + sales (Beiber still moved 500k albums for purpose even though it was freely available on streaming sites).

or exclusive sales then streaming (Adele).


But exclusive streaming on a service like Tidal (which I don't think pays big upfront, but I could be wrong).

I think that could be an L.



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171. "RE: naw you can't make real money from pure streaming. Just not possible..."
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U beat me to it.....

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legsdiamond
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172. "It wouldn't make any damn sense to be exclusive and not "
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get a chunk of change.

Maybe it's for the love of Jay but I doubt it.

Any big artist who gives Tidal an exclusive for the first week or 2 HAS to get paid. It's damn near insane to think otherwise.

edit: did a little research. Ye owns 3% of Tidal. When Rhianna went exclusive with Anti they signed up a million new users in one day.

http://time.com/money/4225485/kanye-west-tidal-life-of-pablo-money/

Back when the music service re-launched, Jay told Billboard that West and 15 other artists each had “3 percent equity in the company.” It’s not Apple Music-level money, but if West can convert enough users to switch to Tidal from Apple Music/iTunes during a special 90-day free trial period, he may reap the benefits eventually. But that’s a big “if.”

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173. "I think Tidal exclusives are being paid in Equity which means...."
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not much money upfront or in the short term, and the real pay day is on acquisition or going public which is not at all guaranteed.


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175. "its definitely a gamble but it's smart IMO"
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I would do it if I wasn't hurting for money.

and while Ye acts like he is about to file he ain't broke or anywhere near broke.






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176. "I just can't imagine any record company being cool with it"
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because lord knows Tidal wasn't playing those studio fee's/flying out guests/hiring songwriters for the past few years for Riri and Kanye

Considering both Rihanna and Kanye are signed to Def jam, I assume they already have a deal worked out where a hefty fee exchanged hands outright between the companies. Now THEIR cut of the deal might be nothing...but people got paid

  

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177. "yup, I can't see how you go exclusive and money"
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doesn't exchange hands.

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178. "RE: It wouldn't make any damn sense to be exclusive and not "
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>edit: did a little research. Ye owns 3% of Tidal. When Rhianna
>went exclusive with Anti they signed up a million new users in
>one day.
>

That's because she gave her fans a free download code. Ye didn't do that. People aren't gonna sign up with Tidal just to stream his album. He's not that important.

Anti was also available on other streaming services and in physical formats the following week.

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181. "Ye sold out MSG to play his shit on a laptop"
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while we want to believe he isn't that important, he has some loyal fans.

WE won't sign up to Tidal but a fraction of those new people will sign up and some will forget and pay a month or 2 before cancelling.

it's risky but I think it pays off in the end.

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191. "he didn't just sell out MSG, he had theaters streaming it"
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for people who couldn't make it / didn't live in NYC.


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194. "well damn..."
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184. "Like I said, access to Kanye ain't worth an extra $9.95/month..."
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Most folks will cancel after the free 30-day trial...I know I am.

Google Play Music shits all over Tidal on catalog and interface alone. Tidal is KILLING my battery and constantly locks up. The interface is cumbersome and there's no EQ....

  

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185. "with all due respect, you been waving the google music flag for a year n..."
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of course you wouldn't think anyone would sign up.

Hell, I will admit I didnt think Tidal would be a success but shit is lowkeu working out for them.

as far as those people sticking around. Most won't, but some of them will stick around and thats the whole point.

I really think old heads underestimate these younger fans who follow these artist every move.



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186. "Yeah, good point with that. These young folks are trendy as hell....."
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but they fickle too.....

>of course you wouldn't think anyone would sign up.
>
>Hell, I will admit I didnt think Tidal would be a success but
>shit is lowkeu working out for them.
>
>as far as those people sticking around. Most won't, but some
>of them will stick around and thats the whole point.
>
>I really think old heads underestimate these younger fans who
>follow these artist every move.
>

I can't call it I guess......i'm still annoyed that we went from Napster to this clusterfuck.... this is NOT how downloadable, instant access music model was supposed to play out. Music industry is turning into Cable TV model.... FOH having to subscribe to multiple services just to get my music.....


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187. "And...I wouldn't even be so mad about Tidal, Apple Music, Google Music"
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etc....if I could simply subscribe to them and have access to all of their catalogs in a SINGLE app...

Having 4 different apps to stream/listen/purchase music is NOT ideal.


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188. "yeah, i decided on Spotify and wont budge"
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but it's going to get tricky once I cancel.

shit, I prolly won't ever cancel. lol.

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198. "How is Tidal doing well though. "
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they got like 2M subscribers? Spotify got like 20M and ain't making no money.


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199. "prolly because Tidal only pays $110 per subscriber"
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from billboard

Even so, gaining 490,000 subscribers in six months is an achievement for this relatively small company, and Tidal’s high­-definition, lossless-audio option, which costs $20 per month, seems to be helping to differentiate it from peers:

Riley says 45 percent of new subscribers opt for lossless.

And from a purely financial standpoint, Jay Z, 45, may have already made his money back: $56 million was not a huge price for a fully functioning streaming service. He paid $110 per subscriber, a fraction of Spotify’s $425-per-subscriber valuation at its last funding round; Deezer is hoping its upcoming initial public stock offering will fetch up to $330 per revenue-generating subscriber.

and I said "low key successful"

45% of new users are paying $240 a year for lossless.. which is crazy IMO but I think Tidal is a niche app and doesn't need to rule the streaming world to make money.

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200. "45% of new users are dumbasses..... Tidal's "High Def Sound" was"
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discredited last year shortly after it opened up....
Folks paying top dollar to listen to alleged high quality music on shitty earbuds lol....



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202. "most consumers are dumb"
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how many people on here have bought a shirt and paid triple the price due to the logo on it?

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203. "the standard def is $10 like Spotify"
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and every other streaming service

  

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182. "If the album never drops, Does ye still have to for sample clearances"
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technically TLOP would just be considered a mixtape

that would be dope as hell if that were the case

or do you have to pay for clearances even when you perform the songs publicly

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183. "the credits page says "used with permission" same as in a disc liner"
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189. "Fall Out of Heaven (feat. The-Dream and Bon Iver) (YT link)"
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Ended up just becoming a piece of "FML" instead of a full track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuxFEJjN_I4&feature=youtu.be

That "Y'all got jokes (Bruce! Bruce! Bruce!)" intro is classic stupid.

I wonder how much more is going to trickle out of this album's sessions.

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190. "This is terrible."
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196. "RE: Fall Out of Heaven (feat. The-Dream and Bon Iver) (YT link)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkJqKOb0ZhY

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209. "Shit is sick. I hope Ye finishes it."
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<--- Big Baller World Order

  

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193. "Actually, this reddit thread is tracking leaks/uploads of OG/New tracks"
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Kanye/comments/46fhqk/all_180216_leaks/

I'm on my laptop and won't be on my desktop until tomorrow afternoon, hopefully this stuff doesn't disappear if only for the academic experience.

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201. "Ah good. I was gonna look for a compilation of these"
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thanks for posting that.
i wouldn't've thought to check that particular sub.
Like a dummy. Of course that's where it would be.

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204. "These all sound like scratch tracks"
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weird leak

  

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205. "they need to leak this original version of 30 hours (link)"
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgPqIVVQZ7Q

http://www.dopefile.me/9z7sn8m0dn38

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206. "Fam I was VERY disappointed this version wasnt on rhe album"
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207. "sameski."
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208. "Everyday ive had a new favorite track...today was 30 Hours"
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the version that Reeq posted was what i wanted on the album
but the lyrics on that song hit me
its an introspective joint


cant believe drake helped him with that one
but ive had that one on repeat all day


the things we've done in pursue of the punanny smh lol

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211. "a lesson head just hooked up a bunch of alternate takes"
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to the LP

3-4 songs are def better in different fashions, in particular "Wolves" (which I knew would be better if it started with the Ocean solo), "FML" and a remix of "Love Kanye", also the OG mix of "30 Hours" is on it

thank that lesson head

  

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212. "So when will we know when this album is actually finished?"
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Will it ever be finished? Are we just watching Kanye unravel?

I'm definitely not subscribing to Tidal, and I'll get my hands on a copy one way or another. But when I hear TLOP for the first time, I want it to be the best possible version. I'm in no hurry.



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213. "Rich nigga problems is becoming the most boring shit ever"
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Fiiiiinally listening to the album


uh...rich kanye is boring as fuck


he needs to reevaluate some shit.

is he making hits? yeah, sure

its the content thats yawn inducing

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214. "Has anyone got their merch from season 3 screening?"
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I ain't get my ga damn link or my merch. This nigga pulled the okey doke on me but the "album" still goes.

  

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216. "desus posted a pic on IG that he got merch"
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217. "Alright...about 7-10 listens in...I cant tell if I like it"
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im glad it exists

but

we are in Kanye overload


dude needs to take a seat and produce for other people for a few years.

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218. "who cares what you think?"
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219. "oh hey, its deadzombie. "
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220. "gosh, you're embarrassing me. may we start over?"
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shouldn't we just stop trying to tell niggas, who we don't even know, what to do?

  

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221. "THE NEW VERSION OF HIGHLIGHTS!!"
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WOO!

  

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223. "Where!??!?? "
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226. "tidal"
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222. "New Updates "
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Ultra Light Beam: The choir is mixed better. Everyone’s vocals except Chancer the Rapper have a lot more reverb. There’s also new lyrics from Chance the Rapper and Kirk Franklin.

Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 1: Background vocals at the end of Kanye’s verse and a little on the hook. The snare isn’t as loud as the original release. Beat is a lot more clear.

Father Stretch My Hands Pt. 2: New mix includes the addition of a bass line beginning at the 1:08 mark.

Feedback: It’s shorter. Kanye’s vocals are more balanced with the beat now. The bass is also a lot more mixed. Beat is a lot more different in general.

Highlights: Vocals now sit behind the beat. Young Thug’s vocals are a lot more clear and less harsh.

Freestyle 4: Vocals clarified, weird ass noises and strings added to the background, bass added right before Desiigner verse at 1:31 mark.

Waves: Kanye’s first verse is re-recorded. Lots more echos. The snare doesn’t make you deaf anymore!

FML: Vocal’s are more mixed. They sit on top of the beat now. Background vocals added.

30 Hours: The shoutout/adlib outro isn’t in time with the beat like it is in the original. He added the pause from the SoundCloud version for the Victoria’s Secret line.

No More Parties in LA: Transition to Facts is smooth. Not as jarring as it was before.

Facts: Piano line from MSG is back but is barely noticiable. Synths are a lot louder.

Fade: Way more minimal. The bass line is back too. More like the Yeezys SZN 2 performance. Doesn’t have all the cool sounds from the previous album version and the transitions aren’t as clean as before. It actually ends with an outro instead of cutting off.

  

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227. "man i hope to hear this version of 30 hrs somedeay"
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http://www.olisa.tv/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/kanye-disses-amber.mp4?_=1


like Reeq state above

but i'm feeling the newer version

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266. "Freestyle 4 is a 1000X better than first version"
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224. "Coming to ALL STREAMING SERVICES TOMORROW! #YEBELYING"
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http://www.theverge.com/2016/3/31/11337504/kanye-west-the-life-of-pablo-apple-music-spotify-streaming

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225. "What happened to the Madonna version of Highlights?"
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http://www.madonnarama.com/posts-en/2016/02/19/highlights-the-unreleased-madonna-and-kanye-west-song/


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TR808
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228. "He tweaks this album every week....."
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This is crazy because he keeps making it better and better,

imagine if Stevie Wonder or EWF was doing this back in the day.. and if MJ was doing this ...wooooo...

at some point he is going to have to stop.. maybe ...

You take the blue pill, the story ends. You wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill, you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit hole goes.

  

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229. "Nahhhhhhhhhhhh......they did it the right way."
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They tweaked their albums and spent major time on them, THEN released it. How much better can you really make Off The Wall?

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234. "there are always improvements to make. why surround yourself with"
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cement???

  

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235. "exactly"
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this fool released a beta version of his album. After several weeks he is turning it into what it should have been on release and people are eating this up. What if Stevie or MJ did this? WTF?

November 8th, 2005 The greatest night in the history of GD!

  

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236. "the fuck? what if imhotep had google? get the fuck outta here."
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Big Kuntry
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230. "i agree - hes making this into an ever evolving/changing piece of art..."
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i can understand how some folks could hate that idea and wanna hold onto the one and done idea

  

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231. "the shit is fucking awesome. agile development."
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why not?

  

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232. "I refuse to buy an album with microtransactions that's why"
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What's next freemium albums? You get the album for free but each song comes with one minute snippets priced at $1. The artist charges for song revisions without letting you preview the full track. Unlock the full album for $40 without the option of copying it other formats.

Artists and producers do not follow the Kanye model.

  

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233. "don't nobody listen to you, Kira"
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your music model example is just false.

you pay for subscriptions these days. (tidal, spotify, apple, torrrents if you're smart)

you get it all with a monthly price. no microtransactions.

stop crying.

...

rjcc, come get this nigga.

  

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238. "Now you're advocating paying a monthly price for an album"
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People that paid for TLOP first edition are screwed now thanks to this. They paid for the album and now they need to shell out more money. Industry needs to avoid this because it turns people off. The album should be final upon distribution.

My example is on point and accurate if this starts a trend.

  

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244. "untrue"
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http://jeff.zone/post/142071901511/are-you-able-to-download-the-new-version-of-life

Tidal was handing out free updates as they posted.

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243. "This is the worst plea copping for putting out a half baked album. "
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Based on the false premise that the more you worked on an album the better it becomes. There is a point when an a piece of art is done, and any further work you do on that art will only be for the worst.


>This is crazy because he keeps making it better and better,
>
>imagine if Stevie Wonder or EWF was doing this back in the
>day.. and if MJ was doing this ...wooooo...


They did this back in the day. Only they didn't release unfinished works. MJJ worked on Thirller for 9 months.

From what I read about the recording of this album is that Kanye seemed to only work on this album in earnest like a month before it dropped.

>
>at some point he is going to have to stop.. maybe ...


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249. "RE: This is the worst plea copping for putting out a half baked album. "
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>Based on the false premise that the more you worked on an
>album the better it becomes. There is a point when an a piece
>of art is done, and any further work you do on that art will
>only be for the worst.
>
>
>>This is crazy because he keeps making it better and better,
>>
>>imagine if Stevie Wonder or EWF was doing this back in the
>>day.. and if MJ was doing this ...wooooo...
>
>
>They did this back in the day. Only they didn't release
>unfinished works. MJJ worked on Thirller for 9 months.
>
>From what I read about the recording of this album is that
>Kanye seemed to only work on this album in earnest like a
>month before it dropped.
>
>>
>>at some point he is going to have to stop.. maybe ...


^^

There are a lot of artist that will tell you that when the album came out they wish they had made certain changes. The album was good when he dropped it. He has made it better with the changes.





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257. "Kanye was literally practicing/trying out lyrics on 30 Hours. "
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Like you can hear him trying out a rhyming scheme and lyrics involving Matt Barnes but he never got around to actually writing the lyrics.

That's different from MJJ wishing that maybe he could have tweaked the drums in Beat It. Also we don't have any idea whether if MJJ got the chance to make changes to Thriller post release, that those changes would actually improv any of the songs.

When a work of art is done, it's done.

They tried to "improve" or "update" thriller with the Thriller 25 which had remixes with Kanye, Will.i.am and other folks and attempted to update the sound and we can all agree it was hot garbage.



>There are a lot of artist that will tell you that when the
>album came out they wish they had made certain changes. The
>album was good when he dropped it. He has made it better with
>the changes.
>
>
>
>
>
>


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237. "WOULD EVERY BODY START FUCKIN?!"
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239. "still no 3 Stacks on 30 hours, and..."
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he shoulda put Saint Pablo on there for the masses.

i did it myself but still.

  

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240. "so is what's on spotify the final version?"
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i feel like its a bunch of half songs.

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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241. "That was always the case"
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>i feel like its a bunch of half songs.

Imho in a good way, but your milage may vary.

The changes have been all production/beat construction/mastering not in song length or songwriting additions.

  

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245. "ah alright..thanks."
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-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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242. "Did you buy the Season Pass?"
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If not you'll only get half songs. You could of course play the album for 500 hours and unlock the full versions of some of them.

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247. "will there actually be a final version?"
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i feel like he's going to keep pushing updates

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250. "Tidal was one thing; I have a hard time believing he can push"
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Spotify and Apple around in a similar fashion. Especially since it's been confirmed Tidal pushed new copies of the album to paying customers; would Apple be on board to constantly update their servers and give users free MP3 downloads every two weeks as well?


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248. "Good lord this is fucking *terrible*"
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Just discovered it was on Spotify and am giving it my first spin right now. I just finished "Wolves" and I haven't enjoyed a single song besides "Real Friends" which I would describe as "not miserable"

The hooks are terrible.

The lyrics are worse than terrible and his lyrics are usually just normal terrible.

The beats are a shitshow. The mixing even sounds off.

I went in with super low expectations too, which I thought would actually result in my enjoying it more. But it's just a fucking mess.

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double negative
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251. "you say that now...in a week you will be obsessed. Kurse of Kanye. "
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Brew
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254. "Hahaha I doubt it."
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I listened to Yeezus maybe 3x through and gave up on it besides Black Skinhead. But at least I can say that album had some quality production value and could recommend it to people who I knew were into that album's type of sound.

This album .... what a fucking mess. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone.

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253. "yeah, it stinks"
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I don't get why people think it is good but hey good for them. he's never been a good rapper in my opinion but I used to love his music. those times are long gone.

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Brew
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255. "Yea he doesn't even produce anymore"
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>I don't get why people think it is good but hey good for
>them. he's never been a good rapper in my opinion but I used
>to love his music. those times are long gone.

So it's like ... what do I even listen for. His lyrics are *especially* terrible on this album, which is saying something cause he's always been poopoo on the mic.

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Nodima
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258. "I'll never understand THIS specific argument"
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edit: would just like to note that I don't have an official verdict on this album and I'm responding solely to Kanye as a producer as a job title. I'm not currently arguing whether he is GOOD at producing music, just that it is specifically what he does.


everything else is subjective, but this is saying Steve Albini or John Congleton (or Dr. Dre, or Rico Wade) don't produce just because they don't play the music themselves. They are both known as "producers", why is it that Kanye suddenly isn't just because he isn't in the trenches chopping up the samples.

And, to that point, who's to say he ISN'T? There hasn't been a Kanye album yet that doesn't sound like something that would only come from him; Life of Pablo may be a bunch of sketches, but these are clearly his sketches/collages.

Still, I mainly bristle at the primary contention that Kanye "doesn't even produce" anymore. If anything, he's producing more than ever before considering all the disparate elements that have grown to be a part of his sound since bringing Jon Brion on over a decade ago.

I look at Mike Dean, HudMo, Noah Goldstein, Charlie Heat et. al. as session musicians he employs to play specific parts he visualizes in a song, which has been a method of studio music recording and production for as long as the medium has existed.

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Brew
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259. "Yea I had a feeling that statement would ruffle feathers."
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I'm probably just projecting because I really hate his music these days, so I almost want to *believe* that it's not him making it.

Anyway I don't really care to argue the point, cause it's probably wrong; I just hate his last two albums a lot. That's all I got.

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260. "I think the criticism is he is doing less than that. "
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Like dude has people bringing him fully formed beats and what not.

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252. "steaming pile of dog shit on a hot summer day"
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I'll go back to listened to Oddisee, K Dot etc


you know, the artists at the true forefront of hip hop right now



your reign at the top...

  

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256. "Haha I wouldn't go that far."
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>your reign at the top...

He was at the top of the game for the better part of a decade, probably longer.

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Dr Claw
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261. "how many actual versions of this album exist?"
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Nodima
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262. "There were 5 on what last I checked"
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February original
March 14th (new "Famous")
March 15th ("Frank's Track" split from "Wolves")
March 30th (Remastering, remixing)
April 1st (iTunes/Spotify release)


but if you're being technical, there's probably three. February, March 15th and March 30th.


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263. "Kanye has had some 'uh...' lyrics before but i gave him a pass bc its ka..."
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but this nigga done jumped the damn shark

-The Knicks’ coaching search still includes a lone frontrunner, Kurt Rambis, whose qualifications for the position include a strong relationship with Jackson and a willingness to take the job.

  

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264. "finally hearing spotify version....this shit is crazy"
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after only hearing the first tidal version


this shit is so fucking innovative - the concept of an album being a living artifact

real talk, I hope he keeps working on this thing and pushing out versions until he dies

can you imagine how insane the wikipedia page would look?


the first version was ok but not great. spotify version is a lot better

im more into hearing how this evolves

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265. "Added it to my library on Google Play....haven't cared to press play"
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I wish I could turn in my work half done and then slowly finish it later when I feel like it and have people say I'm innovative.

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Big Kuntry
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267. "FINALLY GOT MY MERCH TODAY! Shouts to Cali DeWitt"
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268. "Ultralight Beams alone makes this good. It's dope to me. *Kanye shrug*"
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