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Boogie Stimuli
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"The BEST video about Black gay portrayal in media, why folks mad,"


          

and Black representation, period.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10205507054809216

Gazi is THAT DUDE.
Love his videos.

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the overwhelming majority of Blk ppl on tv arent gay
Mar 25th 2015
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the funny thing about Empire is that it goes far, far out
Mar 25th 2015
2
Sounds like a good way to pit black men against each other
Mar 25th 2015
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?
Mar 25th 2015
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LOL
Mar 25th 2015
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      Lol
Mar 25th 2015
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what do you mean when you say people fall right into it?
Mar 25th 2015
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RE: what do you mean when you say people fall right into it?
Mar 25th 2015
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Yup and I love it
Mar 25th 2015
17
it honestly feels like every new TV show has a gay clause
Mar 25th 2015
4
Every single last new TV show of this season?
Mar 25th 2015
10
that's wh y I said it FEELS like it.. even if it isn't true
Mar 25th 2015
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it's not happening at all. even a little bit. LOL
Mar 25th 2015
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      ^^^
Mar 25th 2015
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Good point about the gay percentage, but he's right about what else
Mar 25th 2015
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      RE: Good point about the gay percentage, but he's right about what else
Mar 25th 2015
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           Probably.
Mar 25th 2015
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Is such a thing as the gay coon train?
Mar 25th 2015
3
I got popcorn... white cheddar, caramel, hot buttered!!
Mar 25th 2015
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The Coon Train doesn't discriminate
Mar 25th 2015
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elton john performing with eminem at the grammys.
Mar 25th 2015
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Would listen again.
Mar 25th 2015
6
niggas really concerned about gay niggas on tv
Mar 25th 2015
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Interesting for a cat who loves transsexuals to make this comment.
Mar 25th 2015
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      you got me fucked up
Mar 25th 2015
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      Nah I don't. You're the same Forte from way back.
Mar 25th 2015
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      nigga confused you for des lmao
Mar 25th 2015
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           lulz
Mar 25th 2015
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girl, bye.
Mar 25th 2015
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if you don't like the state of tv, why do you watch tv?
Mar 25th 2015
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Dear people who watch TV, please read Joe's reply. I don't, so
Mar 25th 2015
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so how can you agree w/Gazi's analysis?
Mar 25th 2015
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Because I'm informed about it..
Mar 25th 2015
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      how?
Mar 25th 2015
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           I like to read.
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                sure.
Mar 25th 2015
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                not enough.
Mar 25th 2015
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then why are watching videos of tv criticism?
Mar 25th 2015
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Lol, yall cats are hilarious. I'm interested in portrayals of Black ppl...
Mar 25th 2015
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      you've also expressed anti-gay sentiment
Mar 25th 2015
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      What anti-gay sentiment have I expressed? I'll wait.
Mar 25th 2015
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           you said they can't have sex with each other.
Mar 25th 2015
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           Oh, you mean I said penis in vagina is the only biological sex.
Mar 25th 2015
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                i didn't ask "where babies come from," i asked "what is sex?"
Mar 25th 2015
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                     And I answered.
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           That 'deviant' bullshit from whenever that was.
Mar 25th 2015
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                That wasn't about gay ppl.
Mar 25th 2015
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                     it was about all ppl.
Mar 25th 2015
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                     True. So that means I said alotta things that PEOPLE do isn't sex.
Mar 25th 2015
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                     It's cool.
Mar 25th 2015
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                          Very cool.
Mar 25th 2015
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      but not interested enough to actually watch the shows w/ black ppl.
Mar 25th 2015
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how do you not watch TV and post this?
Mar 25th 2015
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      oh i am not even trying to stay on topic.
Mar 25th 2015
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      Stopped watching it. One of white supremacy's biggest brainwashing
Mar 25th 2015
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      I revived this post from obscurity cause I was bored earlier
Mar 25th 2015
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The most popular medium of communication since speech
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      ^^^^^^^ They don't hear you tho
Mar 25th 2015
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This is the most idiotic, self-hating garbage I've heard all month.
Mar 25th 2015
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maybe he did Common's makeup before that Daily Show appearance.
Mar 25th 2015
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      He was vocal about his strong disagreement with Common.
Mar 25th 2015
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           poor thing.
Mar 25th 2015
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           How so? And why'd you assume he does makeup?
Mar 25th 2015
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                you won't get it.
Mar 25th 2015
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                     lol
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           His pandering to homophobes is a by-product of white supremacy
Mar 25th 2015
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was wondering when this guy would make his okp debut
Mar 25th 2015
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Lol, he really does.
Mar 25th 2015
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why must there always be *THE* definitive consensus opinion
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no it don't.
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?
Mar 25th 2015
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I was really hoping nobody would even bother to reply to that
Mar 25th 2015
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      yet here you are, replying.
Mar 25th 2015
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I think it depends on the issue really...
Mar 25th 2015
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      yes - this is definitely happening:
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Hmmmm.
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blkprinceMD05
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1. "the overwhelming majority of Blk ppl on tv arent gay"
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so his circle analogy doesn't hold. empire...one gay person out of like 15 regular cast members who are Blk, Black-ish...one guest character who is gay, out of a regular cast of all str8s...even with reality tv most Blk ppl on those shows aren't gay (many are ratchet tho)


some (I wont say most but maybe) Black ppl have a problem with gay characters on Blk shows because they have a problem with homosexuality.

the best thing for them to do would be to get over it, and characters like jamal may help


because gay ppl are gonna be on tv, period, so either stop watching or continue to be disturbed.

feminine Blk men are seen as less threatening but best believe if his Black ass wild'd the fuck out or got turned up and some cops around he'd be taken down like any other nigga

so this was a pretty misguided (I really wanna just call it shitty) video but we all our entitled to our own opinion and im glad u were so enamored with it....

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2. "the funny thing about Empire is that it goes far, far out"
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Wed Mar-25-15 10:46 AM by b.Touch

  

          

of its way to demonize homophobia the way homosexuality had been demonized in culture.

Jamal is easily, and by a country mile, the most level-headed and balanced regular character on the program, and the only truly homophobic characters on the shoe are evil-ass Lucious Lyon, a handful of thugs, and some struggle rappers.

For example, when Jamal came out at the white party, the camera cuts to every other series regular (pus Naomi Campbell for good measure) and shows them reacting positively - except for Lucious.

And so many people are so dense as to fall right into the show's crosshairs. Maybe they'd've thrown their gay sons into the garbage too.

  

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7. "Sounds like a good way to pit black men against each other"
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Everything looks like Oprah kissing Harvey Weinstein these days

  

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13. "?"
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14. "LOL"
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chile, please.

fuck you.

  

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blkprinceMD05
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16. "Lol"
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8. "what do you mean when you say people fall right into it?"
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Are people mad at the story line for Jamal? Most people I know are rooting for him to win.

I don't really take the criticism for the show seriously because most people are mad at the show just because it's winning. Regardless of the story lines people would hate on it because it gets them clicks or gets their name out there with these horrible opinion pieces.


  

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12. "RE: what do you mean when you say people fall right into it?"
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Wed Mar-25-15 10:44 AM by b.Touch

  

          

>Are people mad at the story line for Jamal? Most people I
>know are rooting for him to win.

Jamal's scenes, if not his storyline, make a lot of people uncomfortable. One of them, oddly, was Terrence Howard, who fought (and lost) to have the kissing scenes between Jamal and his boyfriend excised from the pilot for fear of teh ghey sabotaging the show.

There are quite a few comments online (I know, _I know_) hoping for less "gay kissing/sex scenes", and I've noticed when radio DJs interview the other "Empire" cast members, they sort of tend to speak out of both sides of their mouth about Jamal and/or Jussie Smollett - if he's not there, of course.

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>I don't really take the criticism for the show seriously
>because most people are mad at the show just because it's
>winning. Regardless of the story lines people would hate on it
>because it gets them clicks or gets their name out there with
>these horrible opinion pieces.

You mean like the dummy who made that video thinkpiece that some of y'all's cousins tried to get me to watch? The one that said "Empire" was out to feminine males through the Jamal character (and on what planet is Jamal feminine?)
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17. "Yup and I love it "
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legsdiamond
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4. "it honestly feels like every new TV show has a gay clause"
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now, I'm not saying its true or if it's good or bad but it FEELS like producers are being told to add a gay person to every new show.

It is what it is.. and maybe researches have concluded that gays watch a shit load of TV.

  

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10. "Every single last new TV show of this season?"
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I'm sure someone without something to do can run that list and find some without gay characters.

And by "gay characters", are you only including leads or are you also including recurring and guest spots. Because there's no gay lead characters on "black-ish" (I don't recall that a gay character has said one line of dialogue on that program yet) - Raven-Symone's playing the lesbian sister as a guest shot in an upcoming episode that may or may not lead to a recurring role.

Any gay characters on "Power"? "Survivor's Remorse"?

  

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21. "that's wh y I said it FEELS like it.. even if it isn't true"
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15. "it's not happening at all. even a little bit. LOL"
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gays are slightly more visible on TV this season as compared to some past seasons and so maybe that's why it feels to you like gays are on "EVERY NEW SHOW". kinda like how that racist bitch at Deadline complained that Blacks are taking 50% of the roles in TV this pilot season just b/c of a few race-blind casting choices and some other race-specific castings on a handful of shows being produced recently. our increased visibility where we were previous invisible makes it seem like we're EVERYWHERE to ppl who are not accustomed to seeing us on TV (and/or who don't want to see us on TV).

fuck you.

  

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19. "^^^"
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23. "Good point about the gay percentage, but he's right about what else "
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is in the circle... which would be why I steer clear of tv as I try my best to only deal
with positive Black images.



>some (I wont say most but maybe) Black ppl have a problem with
>gay characters on Blk shows because they have a problem with
>homosexuality.
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>the best thing for them to do would be to get over it, and
>characters like jamal may help



I'll let Gazi himself respond to that:
"White People have the highest rates for Gay Suicides. Especially among white gay teens.
Why didn't Kerry Washington talk about that?
Black Homophobia was created by Slavery and Colonialism. What are these other
races excuses for being so homophobic?"



>feminine Blk men are seen as less threatening but best believe
>if his Black ass wild'd the fuck out or got turned up and some
>cops around he'd be taken down like any other nigga

I promise you, he wouldn't disagree with that. The point he was making is that
feminine Black men are seen as less threatening... with which you admittedly agreed
in the first sentence there.





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26. "RE: Good point about the gay percentage, but he's right about what else "
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>"White People have the highest rates for Gay Suicides.
>Especially among white gay teens.
>Why didn't Kerry Washington talk about that?
>Black Homophobia was created by Slavery and Colonialism. What
>are these other
>races excuses for being so homophobic?"

probably the same excuses black ppl have for being homophobic - mainly, misogyny and the tenets of various religions.

fuck you.

  

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29. "Probably."
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>probably the same excuses black ppl have for being homophobic
>- mainly, misogyny and the tenets of various religions.

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3. "Is such a thing as the gay coon train?"
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"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson


"One of the most important things in life is what Judge Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to whether you're

  

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5. "I got popcorn... white cheddar, caramel, hot buttered!! "
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39. "The Coon Train doesn't discriminate"
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44. "elton john performing with eminem at the grammys. "
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sad, sad, shit.



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>"Everyone has a plan until you punch them in the face. Then
>they don't have a plan anymore." (c) Mike Tyson
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>"One of the most important things in life is what Judge
>Learned Hand described as 'that ever-gnawing inner doubt as to
>whether you're

  

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6. "Would listen again."
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Excellent napkin illustration.

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9. "niggas really concerned about gay niggas on tv"
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50. "Interesting for a cat who loves transsexuals to make this comment."
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56. "you got me fucked up"
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but enjoy your crusade. Keep protecting black masculinity.

  

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70. "Nah I don't. You're the same Forte from way back."
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Quit playin.

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57. "nigga confused you for des lmao"
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Let me sport my Air Hyperbole 2010s in peace. (c) ansomble

Building repetoires (c) spm since 1983

  

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72. "lulz"
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it looked like Bol Bol was diving in the river - Action Bronson

  

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11. "girl, bye."
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fuck you.

  

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18. "if you don't like the state of tv, why do you watch tv?"
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I am not bragging about not watching tv.
I am merely stating I have no idea who these characters are because I haven't seen empire yet.

and I haven't watched that video
because I don't care that much about empire.

and if a character is gay, I don't see a problem.

even if "every" show had one gay character, I wouldn't care because every
person on earth probably knows a gay person.

and since nothing is wrong with being gay,
and everybody probably knows a gay person,
there is no reason for television to reflect that.

but if gay ppl on television
causes you serious distress,
it is okay to aboid television.

I quit watching 10 years ago,
mostly because i did not see
enough ppl on tv that reminded me of me.

if you are in the same place I was at,
do anything else in the world but watch tv.

or, make a post like this.

talk it out.

I, on behalf of the gay community,
am not sorry that gay ppl weird you out.
you are in your feelings right now
so I will won't harp on you too bad.

but I think your life will be easier
if you find a way to not be mad.


hater, heal thy self.

  

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20. "Dear people who watch TV, please read Joe's reply. I don't, so"
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I don't really have a response to it.

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22. "so how can you agree w/Gazi's analysis?"
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and how can you reach the conclusion that it's the BEST analysis if you don't have any familiarity w/the root of the issue being analyzed?

what's this post really about?

fuck you.

  

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24. "Because I'm informed about it.."
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27. "how?"
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fuck you.

  

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30. "I like to read."
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31. "sure."
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fuck you.

  

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35. "not enough. "
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25. "then why are watching videos of tv criticism?"
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if a show doesn't move you enough to make you watch it,
why does it move you enough to research it?

and post about it?

what is it about the fact that there is a gay character
on a show you've never seen?

are you thinking about what the ppl that
watch the show are thinking about
when they see a gay man?

what do you think about when you see a gay man?

do you feel uncomfortable about
gay men's presence on screen,
and what that means about society?

do you question your relationships
with men and wonder if one of them
is gay or whether this show may influence
them to be gay?

would you rather people not be
shown images of gay men on televison,
even though most men know a gay man in
real life?

why do you have these feelings of distress?

are you sad that people in society
may notice more gay men?

do you feel powerless to make the world
appear less gay than it sometimes is?


that's rough.

>I don't really have a response to it.

  

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28. "Lol, yall cats are hilarious. I'm interested in portrayals of Black ppl..."
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our society. Why? Because that creates and informs stereotypes.
I watched the video because it's on my timeline.
I shared it because he said made some unique points.
Gay ppl don't "distress" me. You seem more distressed that I shared the video than anything.

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32. "you've also expressed anti-gay sentiment"
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and are as prone to trolling as anyone who posts here so your motive in posting this is being examined. especially considering you have been a bit dodgy when asked what this post is about.

it's cool though.

fuck you.

  

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33. "What anti-gay sentiment have I expressed? I'll wait."
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Wed Mar-25-15 11:59 AM by Boogie Stimuli

          

The post about a video on facebook. The video on facebook is about Black representation
in media, what it consists of in his view (ratchetness and homosexuality). I thought
that part was self-explanatory. My bad.

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36. "you said they can't have sex with each other. "
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that's pretty anti-gay.
it's in the same ball park as saying they can't love each other.

it's pretty weird.


>The post about a video on facebook. The video on facebook is
>about Black representation
>in media, what it consists of in his view (ratchetness and
>homosexuality). I thought
>that part was self-explanatory. My bad.


it's self explanatory if you are in the habit
of internalizing artistic criticism
about art you have never seen.

for everyone else,
it's weird.

  

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43. "Oh, you mean I said penis in vagina is the only biological sex."
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That post wasn't about gay ppl.

>that's pretty anti-gay.
>it's in the same ball park as saying they can't love each
>other.

That's not anti-gay at all, and that's VERY far from saying two ppl can't love each other.
It's not even on the same coin.

How I define sex has no bearing on how I feel about you as a gay or bi person.
You seem to want that to be the case so that you can feel persecuted tho.

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47. "i didn't ask "where babies come from," i asked "what is sex?""
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then you jumped to a lecture about how
two men can't make a baby together.

as if that is what defines what sex is.

i can't take ppl that post about
tv shows they haven't watched seriously.

especially when the videos
they post come from Facebook.

facebook, lol.

anyway, good luck in your
crusade against the ghey.

take the last word here.

idiot.


>That post wasn't about gay ppl.
>
>>that's pretty anti-gay.
>>it's in the same ball park as saying they can't love each
>>other.
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>That's not anti-gay at all, and that's VERY far from saying
>two ppl can't love each other.
>It's not even on the same coin.
>
>How I define sex has no bearing on how I feel about you as a
>gay or bi person.
>You seem to want that to be the case so that you can feel
>persecuted tho.
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49. "And I answered."
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>then you jumped to a lecture about how
>two men can't make a baby together.


Except, there was no such lecture there. You interpreted it that way, because you
sleep with men. Which is fine with me, but you gotta admit you saw everything I
said through those lenses.

So it wasn't me who brought up homosexuality.
It was you who infused that line of thinking into everything I said and then projected it
onto me.

*shrugs*

Nice internet tough talk tho.
U BAD!

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37. "That 'deviant' bullshit from whenever that was."
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It's cool. We see you.

fuck you.

  

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40. "That wasn't about gay ppl."
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And that's why you aren't quoting it in its entirety.

Just admit you're making that up.

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42. "it was about all ppl. "
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"what is sex?" was the question.
"when a penis goes into a vagina," was your answer.

this definition means gay ppl can't have sex.

which is a fairly vile and ridiculous thing to say.

i didn't even mention gay ppl in that post
until you brought it up.

why did you bring it up?


so why did you make it about the ghey?
why are so many of your posts about the ghey?


>And that's why you aren't quoting it in its entirety.
>
>Just admit you're making that up.

  

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45. "True. So that means I said alotta things that PEOPLE do isn't sex."
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you're making it about gay people, specifically.


>i didn't even mention gay ppl in that post
>until you brought it up.


Here you go creating a narrative to fit the persecution you desire.
I didn't bring up homosexuality in the post.

All the rest of this "why u always bring up the ghey huh?" stuff is more of you
wanting to catch me in trap that doesn't exist. Hell name another time I've
"brought up the ghey". Doesn't exist, lol. You really want it to though.


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51. "It's cool."
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We see you.

fuck you.

  

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52. "Very cool."
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I'm not hiding, and I see yall too.

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34. "but not interested enough to actually watch the shows w/ black ppl. "
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why would anybody take your views on this topic seriously?

how you gonna have an opinion on
shit you haven't watched?

did you even go back to watch the show
to see if this video is an accurate representation of empire?

or do you just believe that every video
that shows up on your facebook feed is true?

do they still teach critical thinking in schools? when i was middle school, i learned about primary and seconday sources.

i learned that I should be hesitant to
accept an opinion if I have not researched
the original source material that informed the secondary source.

this is why i defend eminem.
eminem says some reprehensible shit,
but often it seems the ppl criticizing him
for saying reprehensible things are reacting to what they read about eminem
instead of eminem's actual art.

i laugh at the opinions of ppl that
can't research their opinion before they express it.

it's a sad thing.





>our society. Why? Because that creates and informs
>stereotypes.



>I watched the video because it's on my timeline.
>I shared it because he said made some unique points.
>Gay ppl don't "distress" me. You seem more distressed that I
>shared the video than anything.



i am laughing at a guy that is agreeing
with opinions he has not researched.

good luck in your crusade against the ghey.

  

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38. "how do you not watch TV and post this? "
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good job tho, I smell POAST

  

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41. "oh i am not even trying to stay on topic. "
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didn't even watch his 'lil video or whatever that link was.

i wanna focus on how the nigga is trying
to discuss empire, without having watched empire.

i am making it a point to watch this show
because i WANT to discuss it with ppl.

i thought that's how normal ppl talk about shows.

you watch it, and then talk about it.

maybe i am overthinking it though.

>good job tho, I smell POAST

  

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46. "Stopped watching it. One of white supremacy's biggest brainwashing"
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tools. I read tho.

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48. "I revived this post from obscurity cause I was bored earlier "
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It was a zero reply situation and near the bottom of the second page (and only there cause Okp is so slow now)

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73. "The most popular medium of communication since speech"
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and you ask this dumb ass question?

You do know people despite how "educated" or lack of one may be the TV has a major influence on how people form opinions, biases and gain information. Its the reason someone who doesn't watch TV goes to a foreign country and has natives asking them if they sell drugs and own guns.

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76. "^^^^^^^ They don't hear you tho"
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>and you ask this dumb ass question?
>
>You do know people despite how "educated" or lack of one may
>be the TV has a major influence on how people form opinions,
>biases and gain information. Its the reason someone who
>doesn't watch TV goes to a foreign country and has natives
>asking them if they sell drugs and own guns.

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53. "This is the most idiotic, self-hating garbage I've heard all month."
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And that's quite a feat, considering all of these New Black celebs who've been talking out of their asses lately.

I need to take a shower and read some James Baldwin to rid me of the unadulterated coonery of what I just heard.

  

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55. "maybe he did Common's makeup before that Daily Show appearance."
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he could be the source of Com's bullshit. or vice versa.

lol

fuck you.

  

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58. "He was vocal about his strong disagreement with Common."
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well, he posted a video that was, anyway.

He's very anti-white supremacy.

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60. "poor thing."
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fuck you.

  

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61. "How so? And why'd you assume he does makeup?"
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62. "you won't get it."
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it's not for you.

fuck you.

  

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65. "lol"
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74. "His pandering to homophobes is a by-product of white supremacy"
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He, Raven Symone, and Common all share the same kufi.

  

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54. "was wondering when this guy would make his okp debut"
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he be making hotep niggas heads explode

www.royallegacy.org

For Real (Official Video):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hBRoCPO8esE

  

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59. "Lol, he really does."
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>he be making hotep niggas heads explode

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63. "why must there always be *THE* definitive consensus opinion"
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on something that by its nature - will elicit a wide variety of opinions?

I mean I get that people are all hype about the anti "new black" opinions
of kanye, common, skateboard etc... but to try and marginalize or say that
it is not a legitimate opinion would seem to suggest that there *is* an acceptable
monolithic opinion that must always be espoused, and when anyone strays
from that alleged consensus, they must be punished w/ collective outrage.

Is that productive?

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64. "no it don't. "
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> but to try and marginalize
>or say that
>it is not a legitimate opinion would seem to suggest that
>there *is* an acceptable
>monolithic opinion that must always be espoused, and when
>anyone strays
>from that alleged consensus, they must be punished w/
>collective outrage.
>


skateboard p is on some dumb shit.
ppl not on some dumb shit are calling it out.




>Is that productive?
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we need more dumb opinions to be called dumb, not less.

ppl not on some dumb shit need to speak
out against dumb shit more.


  

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66. "?"
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there doesn't have to be a consensus opinion.

Com can have his opinion all he wants. and those of us who disagree may ridicule him mercilessly for it.

fuck you.

  

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69. "I was really hoping nobody would even bother to reply to that"
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Wishful thinking

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71. "yet here you are, replying. "
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67. "I think it depends on the issue really..."
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to most, it depends on the status of the person stating the opinion.

I think people jump overboard with their responses a lot because of status too.
For instance, I've seen ppl saying "Common said we should extend a hand in love"
when Common actually said "I'M extending a hand in love" and didn't tell anybody to
do anything. I think Common's smarter than to think that that'll work, but I also
think it's good that people reminded him of the regular folks out here who didn't
just win an Oscar or just experienced police brutality yesterday after kicking it with
they're white friends. I ain't about calling ppl dummies and all that, but we can all
stand to be told where our opinions are lacking and told when we in coon territory.

As far as an acceptable monolithic opinion, it depends on the goal or the supposed values.
You can't sell crack to Black folks and then say you're about uplifting the Black community.


>I mean I get that people are all hype about the anti "new
>black" opinions
>of kanye, common, skateboard etc... but to try and marginalize
>or say that
>it is not a legitimate opinion would seem to suggest that
>there *is* an acceptable
>monolithic opinion that must always be espoused, and when
>anyone strays
>from that alleged consensus, they must be punished w/
>collective outrage.
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>Is that productive?
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68. "yes - this is definitely happening:"
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>I think people jump overboard with their responses a lot
>because of status too.
>For instance, I've seen ppl saying "Common said we should
>extend a hand in love"
>when Common actually said "I'M extending a hand in love" and
>didn't tell anybody to
>do anything.

and there's this strange attempt to lump what he said in with the idiocy of what Raven Simone has been saying, which is also a reckless journalistic attempt.







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denny
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75. "Hmmmm."
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Firstly, I don't agree with the premise that black people are under-represented in pop culture. And that contention is quantifiable. In terms of 'presence in numbers'....black americans are represented in tv/films and music more than fairly based on population demographics. In popular American music....black people are heavily OVER-represented. Latinos are the demographic that is severely underrepresented in popular culture as a whole.

The goal-posts usually change when that's pointed out to people who use analogies like the napkin. 'We're not talking about actual numbers....we're talking about the nature of their representation'. That's a much more legitimate point in my mind. There's plenty of black faces in tv and movies but not enough black writers, directors and producers. So even though the numbers are proportionately representative in terms of 'presence'.....it's the WAY that black people are represented that should be the point of contention....not simply the amount of black faces. Making that distinction will make these arguments much stronger. Cause frankly....it's pretty clear that more than 12% of American music stars and tv/film stars are black. That napkin analogy is much more appropriate for the Latino population in the States.

In any case....I can't help but think he's fooling himself for not seeing a homophobic agenda in the contention that he's defending. It wouldn't be THAT difficult to come up with a percentage of black celebrities who are gay or who play gay characters in relation to hetero black actors/characters. It would surprise me if that ratio were much different than it is for white celebrities. I've read enough 'the media is trying to make black men effeminate' conspiracy theories on OKP to see that there is a homophobic agenda driving it.

On another note....I thought it was really interesting what he had to say about his privilege in side-stepping certain racial prejudices in being effeminate. People don't like copping to privileges....so when they do....I tend to listen. And what he's saying about that makes sense within parameters. In a way....I think it's honourable of him to acknowledge that because he's illuminating someone else's struggle. He's saying that masculine black men have it worse than him in certain contexts and situations.....and that at least shows a willingness to empathize with and shine a light on someone else's struggle.





  

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