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"How do we feel about Tavis talking about it? CNN/FOX"


  

          

I was watching CNN and saw wack ass Don Lemon interviewing Tavis Smiley. I try not to wish ill on people but why couldn't that brick that caught that female CNN reporter in the head hit him instead?

Well here's his appearance on CNN. He put Don in his place I think.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfIXLf4lOLg


And here's Tavis on Sean Hannity shouting and getting cut off like Sean does.
http://mediamatters.org/video/2014/12/08/hannity-to-tavis-smiley-about-the-role-of-race/201804

Talk about it.

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RE: How do we feel about Tavis talking about it? CNN/FOX
Dec 09th 2014
1
Yeah and reportedly off camera he's a cool dude
Dec 09th 2014
4
Hannity is a clown for continuing to ask that question.
Dec 09th 2014
2
Don Lemon is going to get punched in the mouth one day
Dec 09th 2014
11
The fact that him and others like him keep bringing up cigarettes...
Dec 09th 2014
12
      yea, it's mad obvious and disrespectful
Dec 09th 2014
      Rand is saying the same thing Dick Gregory says though
Dec 10th 2014
33
Tavis irks me about Obama
Dec 09th 2014
3
It did get to be some childish shit at one point.
Dec 09th 2014
5
      nobody is beyond scrutiny
Dec 09th 2014
9
I saw the CNN appearance, and I have been waiting for someone to call
Dec 09th 2014
6
A lot of talking loud and sayin nothing
Dec 09th 2014
13
The bar is so high for a federal indictment it's often an empty "threat"
Dec 09th 2014
17
They can assign a special prosecutor, this isn't double jeopardy
Dec 09th 2014
19
      RE: They can assign a special prosecutor, this isn't double jeopardy
Dec 09th 2014
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      how can the president assign a special pros to seek an indictment
Dec 10th 2014
44
           the federal government can assign a special pros
Dec 10th 2014
48
                Obama can't do much of anything to get Wilson.
Dec 10th 2014
50
well put.
Dec 09th 2014
20
It's a shame to see what Tavis has fallen down to.
Dec 09th 2014
7
^^^^^
Dec 10th 2014
41
I miss those yearly state of the black union cspan events
Dec 10th 2014
52
He was really a top shelf journalist and independent at that.....
Dec 10th 2014
53
we still hate him for not dickriding obama.
Dec 09th 2014
8
nah, im down for good scrutiny of obama
Dec 09th 2014
10
      I agree
Dec 11th 2014
54
Tavis gave Don exactly what he was looking for when he booked
Dec 09th 2014
14
Damn
Dec 09th 2014
16
For the record I like Tavis for the most part
Dec 09th 2014
15
him & cornell been right from the door
Dec 09th 2014
18
RE: him & cornell been right from the door
Dec 09th 2014
21
absolutely, i love both
Dec 10th 2014
49
People need to stop engaging Don Lemon
Dec 09th 2014
22
I'm using people's stances as a filter
Dec 09th 2014
23
up
Dec 10th 2014
25
Why is Don so smug now? and Tavis looking foolish here.
Dec 10th 2014
26
"LET ME EDUCATE YOU"
Dec 10th 2014
27
Why is Tavis trying to scold POTUS. What qualifies him to judge?
Dec 10th 2014
28
what qualifies you to judge
Dec 10th 2014
29
Tavis has been hating on Obama since he felt snubbed
Dec 10th 2014
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      RE: Obama deserves critique in many areas
Dec 10th 2014
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He's a US citizen, dummy. That's what qualifies him.
Dec 10th 2014
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      If you were my intellectual equal, I'd consider your remark amusing.
Dec 10th 2014
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           Said the guy asking elementary school civics questions.
Dec 10th 2014
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                Said the guy who doesn't understand the elementary school civics questio...
Dec 10th 2014
51
mixed feelings.
Dec 10th 2014
31
Tavis was awesome and his critique on Obama is sound
Dec 10th 2014
34
All this Tavis hero love is too funny.
Dec 10th 2014
35
Why does Tavis need to say something good about Obama?
Dec 10th 2014
40
i hate when people upload shit in mono
Dec 10th 2014
38
i love that i heard 'jump bad' on CNN.
Dec 10th 2014
42
imo Don actually looked more erasonable here
Dec 10th 2014
43
i normally think Tavis is doing too much w/his anti-Obama stances
Dec 10th 2014
45
      I think his general point is fine
Dec 10th 2014
46
           okay
Dec 10th 2014
47
Those were painful to watch...why go on a show that won't let you talk?
Dec 11th 2014
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1. "RE: How do we feel about Tavis talking about it? CNN/FOX"
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Hannity is a bitch.....

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4. "Yeah and reportedly off camera he's a cool dude"
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SMH

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2. "Hannity is a clown for continuing to ask that question."
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He's transparent.

And Don Lemon was being very condescending. He's going to lose his job at some point.

With all that said, I'm not the biggest Tavis Smiley fan, so I tend to avoid these debates.

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11. "Don Lemon is going to get punched in the mouth one day"
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12. "The fact that him and others like him keep bringing up cigarettes..."
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in the Garner case is despicable.

Rand Paul was talking the other day saying something like "The bigger issue here is the tax imposed blah blah blah"

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"yea, it's mad obvious and disrespectful"


  

          

that they want to make this about fucking taxes and small govt buzzwords and shit

like they can't even see the humans beyond the agenda at all

that's some disheartening shit

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33. "Rand is saying the same thing Dick Gregory says though"
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That being-- if you want folks to stop behaving like crabs in a barrel then you should turn down the temperature of the water. Rand just said it with less metaphor and compassion, but it's the same message.

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3. "Tavis irks me about Obama"
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Lemon irks me about mostly everything else...

there was so little of consequence said in that interview

they both got mad childish at one point lol

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5. "It did get to be some childish shit at one point. "
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I feel Tavis on saying we shouldn't let up on the pressure for something to be done about this police brutality. I watched the BET interview and to me it didn't seem like a lecture to me.

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9. "nobody is beyond scrutiny"
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but he treats Obama like dude is a failed messiah

Tavis looked terrible in both those interviews

he's not convincing and he rarely seems to scratch the surface...

i dont blame him...bc it's hard to get folks to see some of the obvious shit sometimes...which is why in these debates you stick to the most tangible shit for your arguments...

he doesn't do that at all

and he's mad at Obama for not failing the same way he fails lol

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6. "I saw the CNN appearance, and I have been waiting for someone to call"
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out the POTUS

I've said in other posts

the riots after the no bill in Ferguson didn't need to happen

at all

Barry O coulda grabbed the mic after McCulloch made his little anouncement

and said we got this

special prosectuor

federal charges

etc...

drops mic

but he didn't

he gave us a F'N lecture

and Tavis was right on

wash rinse repeat in the Garner case

people are F'N hurting, afraid, etc...

and what does the POTUS have for us

words

these review boards, DOJ oversight, etc...

not only won't do shit

but they've been not doing shit

the DOJ has been investigating the CLE PD since 2002

WTF are they even doing?

Tavis called it straight, while Don kept pandering

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13. "A lot of talking loud and sayin nothing"
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Tue Dec-09-14 01:10 PM by Deacon Blues

  

          


I agree Obama should show more leadership but unfortunately
Nothing will be done, either obama's heart isn't in pushing for change on this or he realizes that he can't , they all are just waiting and hoping this will blow over

The majority of white people will usually support the cops over black victims, especially if there is evidence of criminality or resisting arrest

Particularly as long as they perceive that there is a lot of violence in black neighborhoods

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17. "The bar is so high for a federal indictment it's often an empty "threat""
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They'd have to prove that either officer *intended* to deprive the two victims of their civil rights. That would be extremely hard to prove in Ferguson since it seems that was a chance encounter that turned very bad... there might be a chance in NYC since Garner was known in the area for selling loosies and may have been known by the officers involved. Intent still has to be proven, though, so they'd need evidence like statement from the officers that they planned to beat Garner's ass.

Anyway, my point is I think Obama was muted because there wasn't much he could do unilaterally. The Justice Department might have better luck just investigating the departments but that comes with alot of political baggage.

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19. "They can assign a special prosecutor, this isn't double jeopardy"
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Tue Dec-09-14 02:39 PM by bentagain

  

          

I think alot of people are equating these grand juries with trials

which they aren't

bottom line

the POTUS can basically do whatever the fok he wants

as we've seen with immigration, ISIS, Obamacare, etc...

they are choosing to do nothing.

Laurence O'Donnell point blank pointed out that McCulloch's office presented an outdated statute to define justified lethal force

the statute that allowed for lethal force if a suspect is fleeing

was struck down by the Supreme Court

i.e., the DA's office presented false evidence to the grand jury

which should be enough to assign an outside prosecutor IMO

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24. "RE: They can assign a special prosecutor, this isn't double jeopardy"
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True, interesting good points, is there a precedent for it

I'm sure they would impeach him if he tried though

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44. "how can the president assign a special pros to seek an indictment"
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Wed Dec-10-14 06:56 PM by SoWhat

  

          

under Missouri state law?

which federal or state statutes allow for that?

or are you saying Obama should appoint a prosecutor to investigate McCullough for wrongdoing in his handling of the Wilson grand jury?

if so, what statute gives him authority to do so?

or is that authority vested in the Missouri governor or legislature?

fuck you.

  

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48. "the federal government can assign a special pros "
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last I checked, the POTUS was the head of the Federal Government

as I understand these no bills = these officers were never even charged with a crime

and also, a prosectuor doesn't need to seek an indictment

they can indict based on the evidence presented

so every option that was on the table to begin with, is still available

as far as what statute gives him the authority, etc...

I would first refer back to my point that the POTUS can do pretty much whatever the fuck he wants to, as we've seen time and time again

more relevant to this post, is what I think Tavis was getting at

damn a statute

damn a precedent

DO SOMETHING!!!

in both the Garner and Brown cases, it should be more than evident that this system is either

a)broken, or
b)working exactly the way it was designed to work

either way, doing nothing is not an option

which so far, other than a couple of lectures, is all we've gotten

if you're saying he can't do anything, say that then.



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50. "Obama can't do much of anything to get Wilson."
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I'm unaware of any federal statute that gives the president the authority to interfere in a criminal prosecution under state law. He has directed DOJ to investigate the matter for violations of the Civil Rights Act - that's federal law. We'll see where that goes. But that's all the fedz can do to prosecute Wilson as far as I know. If you'd heard different I was curious.

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20. "well put."
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7. "It's a shame to see what Tavis has fallen down to."
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He used to be someone who I used to find compelling, intelligent and thoughtful. Now, he's succumbed to a bitter, self absorbed, angry man. I feel sorry for him.

  

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41. "^^^^^"
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Yes!!! That is so true.

  

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52. "I miss those yearly state of the black union cspan events"
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>He used to be someone who I used to find compelling,
>intelligent and thoughtful. Now, he's succumbed to a bitter,
>self absorbed, angry man. I feel sorry for him.

  

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53. "He was really a top shelf journalist and independent at that....."
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8. "we still hate him for not dickriding obama."
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10. "nah, im down for good scrutiny of obama"
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but he takes it to a level beyond

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54. "I agree"
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it's like it's all personal with him and Dr. West, and that's sad

Nothing wrong with criticizing the President, but these dudes carry on like they did 't get invited to a special dinner back in 2008 and have been bitter about it ever since...
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14. "Tavis gave Don exactly what he was looking for when he booked"
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him as guest.

Don let Tavis get his agenda off
then Don fake feigned ignorance.
then they debated like kids for 2 minutes.
then it goes viral.

i wont say these moments are staged, but both parties knew exactly what they were doing here

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16. "Damn"
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Now that you mention it, you're right. No way Don could have talked to Tavis like that without expecting this kind of attention. SMH

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15. "For the record I like Tavis for the most part"
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I was way more annoyed with Don Lemon than Tavis' critique of the President. He doesn't seem self absorbed to me in the clip. Other times perhaps but not here.

Oh and I love that he said "don't try and jump bad with me". That's some old Jive Turkey type slang right there.

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18. "him & cornell been right from the door "
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& i wont let you bammas forget it


does it really matter?

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21. "RE: him & cornell been right from the door "
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yep.

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49. "absolutely, i love both"
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if we didn't have them, i mean...wtf.

  

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22. "People need to stop engaging Don Lemon"
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All people. As badly as people wanna be on CNN, anyone with any common sense should decline interviews with him.

  

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23. "I'm using people's stances as a filter"
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it would be great if others did too

i.e., decline an invite to appear on Hannity because he doesn't think a man choked to death was ever put in a chokehold

etc...

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25. "up"
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26. "Why is Don so smug now? and Tavis looking foolish here."
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and I been riding with him and Cornell with their critiques of Obie for the past 6 yrs

i wouldn't be surprised if Tavis chin checked that dude next time he saw him

  

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27. ""LET ME EDUCATE YOU" "
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"YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO DEBATE"

good grief...

it started off alright, and then went off the rails

and lol at Hannity cherry picking those "eye witness" testimonies

and who the fuck has said that dude is "cool" off camera/

  

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28. "Why is Tavis trying to scold POTUS. What qualifies him to judge?"
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Who is he? I think he's jealous that POTUS didn't come on his show.

Tavis is so jaded. He's acting like a dumped S.O.



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29. "what qualifies you to judge"
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the idea that you see something unjust, or in your case (PUN!), immoral, and you voice an opinion/idea on the matter

right or wrong

  

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30. "Tavis has been hating on Obama since he felt snubbed "
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32. "RE: Obama deserves critique in many areas"
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and Tavis and Dr. West have been doing a lot of the heavy lifting publicly

here, in this interview, i agree he's coming off a bit salty/ridiculous

but Don was just as turrbl

  

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36. "He's a US citizen, dummy. That's what qualifies him. "
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37. "If you were my intellectual equal, I'd consider your remark amusing."
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But alas, your mental EBT card is out of funds.

Have a great day.


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39. "Said the guy asking elementary school civics questions. "
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"Why does the demagogue Tavis have the temerity to question Uncle Barack?"

Shut up.

  

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51. "Said the guy who doesn't understand the elementary school civics questio..."
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>"Why does the demagogue Tavis have the temerity to question
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31. "mixed feelings."
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I especially think Tavis is right to critique Obama. Tavis is SPOT ON.

If the leader of the Free World can't do more to begin addressing the policy and systemic issues at the center of this mess, it's because he doesn't want to. And maybe worse because he doesn't get it.

What Tavis said about Obama stepping into the moment? So true. And at this point, the question about Obama stepping into the moment is a rhetorical one. I don't expect ANYTHING from Obama when it comes to respecting the Black community as a legitimate political force that he must answer to because they put him in office. Of course, he doesn't have to. But I think his failure to do so indicates a lack of vision, imagination, and character.

Lol. Yes, Barry. Come to BET to "talk" to us. To say...what? Obama literally said NOTHING in that condescending interview that demonstrated any nuanced understanding of the Black community as citizenry or political community with agency and power. Quickly, it dawned on me: oh duh, girl, Barry's just running another errand for White America-- and yet again, he hasn't figured out that he doesn't have to.

Justice, Barry.

Mixed feelings part for me?

Tired of seeing Black commentators and pundits on TV explaining, justifying, and performing. For who? And for what?

If Tavis has time to answer dumb questions from Don Lemon et al, so be it. But at some point, these media moments must be called an insult to our intelligence and a waste of time. The media coverage of Garner and Brown are tragically stupid and the mouthpiece of forces that, let us be clear, exploit and denigrate people of color to maintain and profit from the status quo of systemic, racialized, injustice.








  

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34. "Tavis was awesome and his critique on Obama is sound"
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Lemon is playing to white folks and old black folks obsessed with Obama as a symbol.

  

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35. "All this Tavis hero love is too funny."
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And I like Tavis. But let's not pretend that he's not jaded. He's hiding behind the notion that "I'm pushing the president to greatness" BS.

He's ain't had one good thing to say about Obama every since he wasn't invited to the White House. And for Tavis to backhand BET (which I hate) is just as childish. If Obama had come to his show it would still be on the same level of notice.

Cry Baby.



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40. "Why does Tavis need to say something good about Obama? "
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What is there good to say?

  

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38. "i hate when people upload shit in mono"
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42. "i love that i heard 'jump bad' on CNN."
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anyway, i'm w/Tavis on this one.

fuck you.

  

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43. "imo Don actually looked more erasonable here"
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lol though.

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45. "i normally think Tavis is doing too much w/his anti-Obama stances"
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but here i think he's right on.

why do you think Don was more reasonable?

fuck you.

  

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46. "I think his general point is fine"
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that Obama should address race head on.
I'm also of the mindset that with 2 years left on his clock, he might as well let it all hang out.

but imo Tavis was being nitpicky and could have been more eloquent about what he was trying to say.
imo, its silly to be mad at obama for being jokey on colbert (a joke show) and more stern on BET (an interview I won't bother to watch so i can't fully assess it).

Don seemed reasonable because he noted that as president, it is difficult for Obama to wild out as much as black people would like. That's not to say that he can't or that he shouldn't, but Don at least acknowledged the delicacy of the political climate.

the argument seemed very petty and unprofessional on Tavis' part, imo.
Don may have been smug, but i dont think he was necessarily wrong.

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47. "okay"
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fuck you.

  

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55. "Those were painful to watch...why go on a show that won't let you talk?"
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all that bickering and nothing gets heard. The way Tavis talks he needs more breathing room to get his point across cause he always comes in with mad talking points. He won't answer the question directly without breaking it all the way down but neither of these guys were allowing for that. Might as well not even be on there.

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