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BKyle
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"Common's religion is........"


  

          

...ugh, ?uestlove, may I have a DRUM-ROLL Please!?...

http://play.rbn.com/?url=okayplayer/okayplayer/g2demand/comreligion.rm&proto=rtsp

I was gonna try and summerize what the man said, but it's best that you hear it in his own words. We were in the back of a tour bus when he answered the question, so if his voice isn't quite clear enough (or you've been under a rock and don't have Real Player), this is how the convo went.


B.Kyle : Are you Muslim?

Common : Naw... I studied it. I’m not Muslim, I just believe in God, I believe in the Supreme being. I call God ‘Allah’ which I choose to do. I definitely read the Quran, I’m trying to understand it and learn it. But I also read the Bible, I read books on Budism. You know… I just believe in the Supreme being… a higher force. Pay homage to the higher force. But, if you go by the Muslim definition “one who submits to God” than I am one. I try to submit to God.


--So there ya have it!

hmmm... seems like even after this 'explanation', we're STILL wondering just what religion he is???
I feel that some okayplayers are gonna go from curiosity to confusion. We'll see.

Brian 'B.Kyle' A.



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I just think that means
Apr 11th 2001
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Sounds Like He's. . .
Apr 11th 2001
2
no, common i believe...
Apr 11th 2001
3
Reading is fundamental
Apr 11th 2001
4
      chops herself.....
Apr 11th 2001
6
RE: who cares n/m
Apr 11th 2001
5
amazing behind the scene coverage!!!
Apr 11th 2001
7
unitarian
Apr 11th 2001
8
RE: Common's religion is........
naimadoner
Apr 11th 2001
9
RE: Common's religion is........
Apr 11th 2001
10
RE: Common's religion is........
naimadoner
Apr 11th 2001
12
put that HU edulacation to work boy!!!...
Apr 11th 2001
11
RE: Common's religion is........
jm760
Apr 11th 2001
13
RE: Common's religion is........
jm760
Apr 11th 2001
14
Heat (#2)
Apr 13th 2001
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it is the kufi y'all
Apr 11th 2001
15
Common is the devil!
Apr 12th 2001
16
Religion
Apr 12th 2001
17
RE: Religion
Apr 13th 2001
20
RE: Religion
Apr 17th 2001
34
RE: Common's religion is........
knicksrule
Apr 12th 2001
18
Man...Com.....(sigh)
Iesa
Apr 13th 2001
21
RE: Man...Com.....(sigh)
Apr 14th 2001
25
oh yeah.
Iesa
Apr 13th 2001
22
Dang bro!
Apr 13th 2001
23
RE: Dang bro!
Apr 17th 2001
31
judgemental much??
Apr 14th 2001
26
      RE: judgemental much??
Iesa
Apr 14th 2001
27
           OH really...
Apr 17th 2001
35
                RE: OH really...
Iesa
Apr 18th 2001
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RE: Common's religion is........
Apr 13th 2001
24
i also study that religion...
Apr 14th 2001
28
RE: Common's religion is........
Apr 16th 2001
29
just playing devil's advocate here...
Apr 16th 2001
30
      wagwan
Iesa
Apr 17th 2001
32
I thought he was clear on G.O.D...
Apr 17th 2001
33
musiq
soulprincess
Apr 23rd 2001
37

L_O_Quent
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1. "I just think that means"
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picks and chooses from religions. Spiritualtiy. That's my take.

I think, I can't actually say those were coherant sentances, I mean dude was trying to sleep.


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2. "Sounds Like He's. . ."
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. . .he's spiritual, which is alot more than alot of people can say for themselves. It's good to see free realm of thought, because when he finally focuses in on his path to the "Supreme Being" he will be true to his convictions since he's studied what his convictions AREN'T as well.

Peace.

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3. "no, common i believe..."
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is studying the five percent nation or he's studying in mecca...i heard he was at show n prove but im not sure...erykah badu is down the nation of Gods and Earths and im seeing it rub off on him. They have the highest population of Gods there...i dont know, the person im learning mathematics from *long story* says that a lot of cats are starting to study there...wu tang etc etc what not has been throwing mathematics into their steez for a while...but i have no actual facts because i havent built wit him like that. othawise i dont know....
dont quote me or any ish like that...
peace lol
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4. "Reading is fundamental"
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Ummmm, the guy who posted this thread (BKyle) got this info from Common himself, listen to the real audio link.
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6. "chops herself....."
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i thought it was a link for something else *continually chops herself*
peace


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It was like, I aint know whether to clap or be offended, so i clapped with a frown...- Geah

  

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5. "RE: who cares n/m"
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7. "amazing behind the scene coverage!!!"
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With things being slow around okayplayer land...this is definately something we need. more goodies, more goodies!!!
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8. "unitarian"
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not sure what all it entails, but i've heard unitarians say similar stuff to what comm said, just believe in a God
one God, Allah, whatever you call it, but not a man, an undescribeable force. so yeah, that's what i say, although some just don't like the fundamentals of organized religion.
peace
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naimadoner

Wed Apr-11-01 06:51 PM

  
9. "RE: Common's religion is........"
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TWO WORDS....CON-FUSED

  

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10. "RE: Common's religion is........"
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Why are y'all debating what you think his religion is...in his own words he "got God but don't got religion"...That's my philosophy too...Every religion has jewels in their teachings so why limit myself to one...


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naimadoner

Wed Apr-11-01 07:23 PM

  
12. "RE: Common's religion is........"
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yo MADLIB FROM LOOTPACK?

  

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11. "put that HU edulacation to work boy!!!..."
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u still got my legs??


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jm760

Wed Apr-11-01 07:28 PM

  
13. "RE: Common's religion is........"
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i forget what song it is from but here you go: "i lecture how i got God but don't got religion" -common

  

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jm760

Wed Apr-11-01 07:29 PM

  
14. "RE: Common's religion is........"
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sorry, someone already wrote that, i guess i should have read them all before i posted.

  

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19. "Heat (#2)"
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15. "it is the kufi y'all"
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i bet if he sported a beretta or a yahmakha, ya'ld stop askin' that question. given, homie is from chi and the n.o.i. and the el rookin had they lil psudo-islam poppin. only ALLAH makes muslims, and may that Qur'an that common is trying to decipher speak to his heart and call him to the iqwaan muslimeen.

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16. "Common is the devil!"
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sike!
it was clear to me a long time ago that he was just a spiritual being and not tied into any particular religious practice.

However Bkyle i wanted to know how the hell you been?
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Nuwb or "blackness" is supreme balance before the chaos was introduced. It was a state of sound, right reasoning. That darkness was triple darkness, which is what you would call the absence of consciousness, or the state of being awoke. In actuality, the dream state is more real and peaceful than the chaos you meet once you are awake. A form of spiritual darkness responsible for the spark that turned on the light that is the life and intellect of all who breathe and think.
When the light is turned on again, the chaos begins. The differentiation begins. The separation begins. The rights and the wrongs, the goodness and the badness; the supreme balance is broken and the ego begins to verse the "I."

  

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17. "Religion"
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"Religion is for people who are afraid to go to hell, spirituality is for those who've been there and back"

Peace.

  

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20. "RE: Religion"
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look into the bahai faith, not every religion beieves in a hell and not every religion claims to be the only truth

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34. "RE: Religion"
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>"Religion is for people who are
>afraid to go to hell,
>spirituality is for those who've
>been there and back"
>
>Peace.


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knicksrule

Thu Apr-12-01 09:09 AM

  
18. "RE: Common's religion is........"
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"talkin bout how i got God but dont got religion"- common

sig:
birth is the cause of death.

  

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Iesa

Fri Apr-13-01 11:10 AM

  
21. "Man...Com.....(sigh)"
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Sabhanallah.

wow, i guess it was my own ignorance, but yo Com you disappoint me. you lead a brother into thinkin you Muslim, or at least somewhat half Muslim (Nation, Five %'er, Arm Leg Leg, ish) with lines like, "through me Mohammed with forever speak, greatin brothers with handshakes on ghetto landscapes"...."ran through the mosque like Randy, touchin down with close friends and familky"....and the list goes on.

man i used to like your ish and your style, now you just some ghetto fab, artist thats like all the rest....aint got no TRUE ambition in life....always frontin...sayin somethin.

you wack man.

still respect you though as a human.

man, just hope Mos Def ain't like that too.

whatever yo.


milky

peace be upon you.

  

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25. "RE: Man...Com.....(sigh)"
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Correction:

Its actually "Ran through the Moss like Randy" i.e. Randy Moss
I heard he was pretty good at football
sucks at air hockey though.



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Iesa

Fri Apr-13-01 11:15 AM

  
22. "oh yeah."
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thought you had some sense man, o forget, you lost that a couple years ago, now you just common. commonly and collectively confused.
......

just as confused as the 2nd and 3rd man bro.


Iesa

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23. "Dang bro!"
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As salaamu aliakum akhi,


maybe he just don't want people all up in his face tellin' him all the wrong stuff he is doin',ya know, like other artists we know. common is cool and may one day be at jummah salat right next to you,insha Allah. if he isn't muslim tho, the kufi has got to go. it hurts when they perp.

Regulators!!! Mount UP!

he he he

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31. "RE: Dang bro!"
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why does the kufi have to go if he isnt muslim? in Nigeria, folks wear those hats who aren't muslim. am i missing something?


  

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26. "judgemental much??"
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people can't believe and do what they choose???

when the fuck did common ever say "i am muslim, therefore all my similes and metaphors shall 100% honest muslim references"

y'all kill me...

are you gonna go burn all your common cd's and tell your friends not to buy them either?

he's a entertainer..get over it.


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Iesa

Sat Apr-14-01 04:08 PM

  
27. "RE: judgemental much??"
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wha.

hold up, i know you a woman so i take that into consideration when talkin bout com sense.

listen...i said it was probably my own ignorance that lead me to believe that he was muslim.
whatever...he represents like he is Muslim, and that ain't right.
dood, you tellin me you didn't think/or ever thought that he was Muslim??? please.

its misrep. how'd you like it if i told you i was the pres. of Congo...for 10 yrs...when i really never was???

what im sayin is that, by him makin me think he was Muslim, i thought i shared a COMMON bond with him - now i found that i dont.

being a brother in Islam is somethin i don take lightly, i love my brothers. its losin family - thats what i felt.

anyway.

take it ease

Iese

peace be upon you

pray for us all.

ps. i burned the CD's a while ago - when i found out that music ain't no good. oh ya, and i will be tellin friend cause a good bro of mine looks like com

  

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Solitayre
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35. "OH really..."
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I'm sayin what bond could you possibly have with a brother you seem to not know personally. If I study the Qu'ran and make constant references to Muhammed in my rhymes, does that mean I am a DEVOUT muslim?

A better question would be, are you such a devout muslim to question brother com's faith in Allah?

For all you know the brother could be smoking weed, drinkin alcohol, eatin pork and throwing orgies backstage and here you go saying that it felt like we had a common bond, like you a used up woman.

Entertainers are just that in the public eye. The problem is people SWEAR they can find a PERSONAL bonding/friendship/leadership in them.

You're showing me very little difference in your philosophy and those of the Tupac Zealots with that statement.


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Iesa

Wed Apr-18-01 10:07 AM

  
36. "RE: OH really..."
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boyee.

get off your tough boyee ish!!
tryin to impress me or something.
???

listen, the man made it seem like he was muslim, never did i say that he was. when you make yourself out to look like something, don you think people will think you are that something???

you think im stupid, ignorant or something?? course the man could be throwin orgies ans shiazzz backstage, don think i know that?

point is, there COULD have been the CHANCE that we shared a bond.

guy, i ain't judgin no one. its wrong to. THE BROTHER SAID HE AINT MUSLIM. thats why i said we probably don share the bond.

whatever yo.

brother, i'll keep it at that.
sorry yo, got bit upset, but you know you aint the smartest of em all. i aint either. actually, may be you are.

take it ease

peace

Iesa

peace be upon you

  

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KOONTZILLA
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24. "RE: Common's religion is........"
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HE'S IN THE SAME RELIGION I AM...... A CHILD OF GOD, A BELIEVER OF GOD..... WHICH EVERYONE SHOULD BE...... HE AIN'T CLAIMIN NO SETS ( THATS WHAT I CALL IT.... )

"Niggas mad cause Ibrags about the cash I got, but I'm used to not havin alot, I'm from the gutter and ohh..."-Jay-Z

"Expensive shoes worn, Loui Viton see-through gone, CoChes, my face is like a coupon..."Jay-Z

  

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serena_love
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28. "i also study that religion..."
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naw fo real i am the same way. I love god...try and do my best by him in my own way cause i know there has to be somethin bigger than me...someone who put me here for a reason....now all that religion stuff....that is a different story...i am more involved with the spiritual then the religious so i see his point. i feel him.

do yo thang com...thanks b!

Peace,
Serena

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29. "RE: Common's religion is........"
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I'm trying to figure out why everyone is caught up with what this man's belief structure is...
A big part of faith is that no Woman/Man can judge you; so what does it matter to any of us what his religion is?
And to the brother who feels that he can no longer support Common because he found out he was not muslim; Why do you feel that you can only relate to those and invest in those who only practice what you practice? We as a collective group of ethnic people should really try to start breaking away from this chain of division(competing religions) that we so easily chose to define who we are. Also it seems that we as a people{Black people} are always so caught up with image! Including this religious or spiritual image. But how many of us really truely know what it is to have Religion? Religion isn't just "Following" it has more to do with structure and discipline. In order to reach a higher level you have to have dedication and structure. You have to be dedicated to your beliefs and convictions and structured enough to practice what you beleive. The path to righteousness is narrow not broad. Anyway that all I got to say about that.
"I beleive in God. I chose to use that name when I address the Almighty. Allah dosen't mind I'm sure....."

"Get ready....for your blessing....."
"Bury me by my Grand-Grand and when you can come follow me"

  

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30. "just playing devil's advocate here..."
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but why have you chosen to question the Muslim okp about why he feels he can no longer support Common and his music? It seems that if this mans faith and belief which is personal to him tells him to do so, then he should do so. But you have made it seem as if his choice is abhorrent with simple human logic.Sounds like a judgement against his his beliefs or at least against'the chain of division' which you eloquently criticized.

Early in the e-mail you question why people have an interest in the man's belief structure but then you turn around and define exactly and discetely what religion is after after implying that others don't truly know what it is or think it just constitutes following. Aren't you dividing yourself from those who have that perspective of religion.

Then you say the path of rigtheousnees is narrow not broad and also tell us the name by which you call God. It seems to me that your desire to pontificate on your beliefs might have answered the very question you posed. Your desire to express and communicate your understanding is no different then someone who wants to label Common in order to gain a frame of reference from which to understand that brother Cornbread.

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"Observe the ugly mess which most men make of their sex lives-and observe the mess of contradictions which they hold as their moral philosophy. One proceeds from the other. Love is our response to our highest values-and can be nothing else. Let a man corrupt his values and his view of existence, let him profess that love is not self-enjoyment, but self denial, that virtue consists, not of pride, but of pity or pain or weakness or sacrifice, that the noblest love is born, not of admiration, but of charity, not in response to values, but in response to flaws-and he will have cut himself in two. His body will not obey him, it will not respond, it will make him impotent toward the woman he professes to love and draw him to the lowest type of whore he can find. His body will always follow the ultimate logic of his deepest convictions; if he believes that flaws are values, he has damned existence as evil and only the evil will attact him. He has damned himself and he will feel that depravity is all he is worth enjoying. He has equated virtue with pain and he will feel that his body has vicious desires of its own which his mind cannot conquer, that sex is sin, that true love is a pure emotion of spirit. And then he will wonder why lover brings him nothing but boredom, and sex-nothing but shame." -taken from 'Atlas Shrugged' by Ayn Rand

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Iesa

Tue Apr-17-01 11:12 AM

  
32. "wagwan"
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listen, to the brah that was question'n/lecturin me on the division that we create b/c of religion, you pretty much no doubt right. let me get it straight though, not like i hate on non muslims, i got non muslim boys, just that religion to me is something at a higher level and to be able to connect at that level means soo much more to a friendship.
not sayin i hate Rashid. you know. just hearin that he isn't muslim, after i thought he may have been, hurt.
man, i pray for muslims and non muslims alike. but i do have to be aware of the devil, you know, people can be the devil.

h20 you thinkin in some other way/level, like you said, the devil's advocate, thats why i should be aware of what you're sayin....
haha
cool

anyway yo.

peace to all

Iesa

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33. "I thought he was clear on G.O.D..."
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"as long as you know there's a being that's supreme to you, you let that show towards others and the things you" (c) Common

peace...

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soulprincess

Mon Apr-23-01 12:06 PM

  
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i like comm . he's tha man and i can appreiate his answer. i want all tha common fans to vote for the new viedo "love" http://www.bet.com/106andpark/

  

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